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Wikidata:The Game/Flagged items[edit]

Great job! Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 10:33, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Sjoerddebruin! Though DavidMar86hdf deserves even more credit, he's been working on that page much longer than I did, but over a longer period of time, so it's not that easy to spot. Anyways, now that it's at a managable level, I think keeping it at/around zero should be much easier. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 11:24, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Flemish - Dutch[edit]

It is perfectly correct to call them Flemish because Flemish is a nationality, not a citizenship of state, but the definition in wiki data is 'nationality' not 'citizenship' so Flemish is perfectly okay and is also a definition allowed by wikidata.

It is completely wrong to call them Dutch (citizens of the Netherlands with the current Dutch flag) as they never were. I think my solution is better than yours because it is clearly wrong. Caravaggista (talk)

@Caravaggista: See, this is one problem with the multilingual nature of Wikidata – in Norwegian the property country of citizenship (P27) is called "statsborgerskap (land)", which specifies "citizenship (country)". The English name is also "country of citizenship". So yes, I agree they should not be called citizens of the Netherlands, but they can also not be citizens of Flemings (Q242485), since that one by no means is a country. The Dutch name of the property seems to imply the same thing, since aliases of the name ("land van nationaliteit") are "staatsburger", etc. So I agree a solution needs to be found, but the way you have done it is not the right one in my opinion. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 07:43, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
But your solution is wrong because they are and never were Dutch or from the Netherlands but they were Flemish and are called Flemish generally in English. They never were from the country called the Netherlands because the Netherlands broke away from what became the Flemish part which includes Antwerp etc. I find it very strange that a Flemish person has to be called a citizen of a country he was never a part of because the Norwegian language cannot distinguish between citizenship and nationality. It is like saying that Norwegians should be called Danish on wikidata because Swahili has no word for Norwegian but only for Danish. Caravaggista (talk)
@Caravaggista: Exactly, I'm not saying we should call them Dutch either. Like I said on your talk page, it may be better to remove the claim entirely, or find a more fitting one. The edits I reverted, I did without looking carefully enough (sorry about that), so I thought you were changing contemporary people's citizenship, not "old" people. I'm just saying that using country of citizenship (P27) at all for these items is probably not the best course of action. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 08:57, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
What would you say if the page for Henrik Ibsen would state:
nationality: Swedish Flag of Sweden.svg
I agree it might be better not to have a nationality in some cases, but then some person will come in and add the wrong thing. Please note that is is possible to have a Palestinian nationality for Yasser Arafat although there is also no Palestinian country (yet). My solution is better since Flemish people are not Dutch as much as they are not German, French, Danish or Norwegian. So there is no reason in the case of Flemish people to put the nationality as "the Netherlands" with the Dutch flag. So I will continue to make these changes as it is absurd to keep the nationality as the Netherlands. Caravaggista (talk)
@Caravaggista: Sure, you can change them to the one you were using until we have a better solution; at least that way it will be easier to fix everything at once later on. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 09:37, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Isn't it better to use ethnic group (P172) and remove country of citizenship (P27)? Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 11:07, 19 October 2015 (UTC)


I just wanted to let you know that for all the IPA transcription (P898)'s you've been adding, you've been using apostrophes ('), but the constraints require that ˈ (U+02C8 Modifier Letter Vertical Line) be used instead. I'm dealing with the ones that already exist, just thought you should know for future reference. Popcorndude (talk) 13:24, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

@Popcorndude: Ah, shit. Another thing to copypaste instead of just using the keyboard… Thanks for fixing them, thatˈs awesome (see what I did there?). Will use the right one from now on. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 14:04, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Wikidata for Maxwell's equations[edit]

Hi Jon.
Maybe you can help me with a small problem. When I look at "Maxwell's equations" on en-wiki there is a wikidata link to the danish article "Maxwells ligninger". But there is no interwiki on this article and when I try to create a link with wikidata, there is an error. What is the fault and how can I correct it.
Kind regards Savfisk (talk) 20:03, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

@Savfisk: It all looks all right to me. Are you still having this problem? Try appending ?action=purge to the end of the URL of the Danish article. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 14:53, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi Jon. It looks fine to me also. I tried many things yesterday, but maybe it was just bug in my browser (firefox). I learnt that now. Sorry to disturb you, and thanks for your quick answer. Kind regards Savfisk (talk) 16:22, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
@Savfisk: No probs, glad it's ok. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 17:01, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Soccerway ID[edit]

Hi, can you make your bot check if the soccerway profile is reachable before you add the ID? It is obviously adding wrong IDs such as [1] or [2]. A short check for the HTTP status code before adding the ID would be very helpful. Thanks, Yellowcard (talk) 19:16, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

@Yellowcard: Well, doing it before it adds it adds a layer of complexity. I'm not saying it's not doable, but I prefer to do it like this because it hightlights problems that already exist in the templates the bot imports the values from. If we don't add them to Wikidata there will be no entry for it in the constraint violation report, and therefore no indicator that something was wrong in Wikipedia. This way we can fix it in Wikipedia as well if desired. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 19:23, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
OK, but PLEASE teach your bot not to re-add wrong values, see [3]. This is a minimum what should doable for you (e.g. by a database table with already processed items). What programming language is your bot written in? Yellowcard (talk) 07:48, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
@Yellowcard: If you just let the bot finish the run, I'll fix everything that's wrong within a few days – after all, the property is brand new and not used anywhere so far, so if they values are wrong for a little while that doesn't hurt. For this run I'm using the standard script in Pywikibot. If you'd have added the right value in that item instead of just removing it, it wouldn't have added it again. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 10:19, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
I honestly don't understand why you wouldn't adapt the bot to make correct edits instead of letting it make wrong edits and correct it by hand. This bothers you and others. Are you able to implement changes in the code? But in the end it's up to you. Yellowcard (talk) 01:57, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
@Yellowcard: I understand that my method seems weird, but it has worked before (with Olympic athlete ID (P1447), which is now as good as it gets when it comes to constraint violations). I guess I prefer to check the uncertain stuff (i.e. what violates constraints) manually to ensure (a) that we have as many values as possible (skipping violations before adding them would go against that) and (b) that the values are correct. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 21:14, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
You may also want to add a heuristic if the soccerway ID even matches the player name in question. I reverted two of your bot's edits because the wrong soccerway ID was apparently present at en-WP articles (most likely due to c&p errors). Ceterum censeo bot runs on wikidata should be avoided. --Headlocker (talk) 14:43, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
@Headlocker: Well, one thing I noticed while checking this is that the URLs in Soccerway are actually just for show. As long as the ID is valid, it doesn't matter what you put between the /players/ and the ID. Case in point: This url leads to the exact same page as this url. So it's not as simple as that. If I figure out how their API works I could try and check values in Wikidata up against their API, which would be useful. As for "ceterum censeo bot runs", I have no idea what that means (yes, I googled it). Jon Harald Søby (talk) 21:14, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
I noticed another problem caused by your bot. It's been adding the ID twice. That makes a lot of single value constraints. Mbch331 (talk)
@Mbch331: Those have all been dealt with (unless tomorrow's constraint report will bring more). Normally the bot will avoid articles where there already is a statement, but in some cases the source template (en:Template:Soccerway) was used twice in one article, and the check for whether it was already there failed. Anyways, User:KrBot fixed most of them, and I fixed the rest (except for valid duplicates, that's another story). Jon Harald Søby (talk) 21:14, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Litt hjelp[edit]

Hei. Det er noe jeg ikke får helt tak på: I går (2. desember) prøvde jeg å opprette wikidata for en del geografiartikler. Jeg gjorde det på to ulike måter, uten at jeg helt forstår hva som er forskjellen, og hvorfor det tilsynelatenede blir ulikt resultat. Se f.eks. [4]. Her står det "Wikidata item not found", men her på Wikidata finnes "oppslaget". Kan du oppklare for meg? Gjør jeg noe feil? Hebue (talk) 19:57, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

@Hebue: Det som er feil med Vatvetelva er at den ikke er knytta til Wikipedia-sida. Jeg antar at du her har trykka på «Lag et nytt element» i sidemenyen, og ikke fulgt lenka under tittelen på Wikipedia? Om du gjør sistnevnte vil lenka til Wikipedia inkluderes automatisk, mens i førstnevnte metode må det gjøres manuelt etter at du har oppretta elementet. For å fikse det går du helt nederst i no label (Q21601445), trykker «rediger» ved Wikipedia, skriver inn språkkode og artikkelnavn og lagrer. Jeg kunne gjort det for deg, men det er best om du gjør det selv så du ser åssen det funker. 😊
Personlig så bruker jeg alltid metoden med å trykke på «Wikidata item not found» på Wikipedia, nettopp fordi den inkluderer lenka automatisk. Det eneste unntaket er om jeg skal opprette et element på Wikidata som ikke har Wikipedia-artikkel, da trykker jeg på «Lag et nytt element». (Det har jeg gjort flere ganger, ett eksempel er no label (Q19458819) og relaterte elementer; her har jeg gjort det for å kunne bruke det elementet som mål for award received (P166) i f.eks. Sven Nordin (Q1771414).)
Om dette går helt over hodet på deg så bare spør mer, jeg er usikker på om forklaringa mi er for teknisk eller bruker for mange Wikidata-termer... Jon Harald Søby (talk) 21:20, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
Supert @Jon Harald Søby:, jeg hang godt med på forklaringen, og vil gjerne prøve å fikse dette selv (etter hvert). Mange takk :-) Hebue (talk) 21:30, 3 December 2015 (UTC)


Ser du har vært innom begrepet "begning".[5] Når jeg satte opp dette fra en side hos Språkrådet så var dette definert som noen fra Bagn, men dette er feil. Dette er folk fra Begnadalen, omtrent litt nordenfor Garthus og ned til og med Begna. Dette er det gamle annekssognet. Lengre nord i dalen så brukes ikke "begning". I Hølera og nordover til et stykke sør for Aurdal er de navnløse. I Aurdal kaller de alle sør for Aurdalsdammen for begning, men det får vi tilgi dem. Noen kaller folk i Bagn for bagning, men det er ikke valig. Jeblad (talk) 17:19, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Ja okei, godt å vite. Jeg driver og skal legge inn alle innbyggernavna vha. quickstatements, men får ikke kilder som er URL til å virke, så det kan hende hr. Manske må på banen for dét. Men jeg skal passe på Bagn/begning i lista. 😊 Jon Harald Søby (talk) 17:22, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
Mener kilden var en liste fra Språkrådet. Du kan bruke den og pywikibot for å legge det inn. Du må kna lista litt, men det er bare noen regex så er du i mål. Jeblad (talk) 19:37, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Forbokstav i label[edit]

Hei. Gjelder det fortsatt at label ikke skal ha stor forbokstav, og gjelder det for alle språk (unntatt selvfølgelig tysk o.l. hvor substantiver har stor forbokstav). Altså kan jeg bare endre dette for norsk, svensk, nynorsk, dansk, gresk, engelsk osv. når jeg kommer over store forbokstaver? --Wikijens (talk) 12:06, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Jepp og jepp. Utenom egennavn såklart. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:15, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Den er grei. Takk for raskt svar. --Wikijens (talk) 12:34, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Participant of (P1344)[edit]

Hei. Jeg jobber endel med å sette inn dette for OL-deltagere. Jeg har tenkt på en ting: Er det noe som hindrer oss i å være mere presise her? For å ta et eksempel: Q5307471 (Tsepo Ramonene) er participant of (P1344): Q8577 (2012 Summer Olympics). Kunne han ikke heller være participant of: Q1798983 (Athletics at the 2012 Summer Olympics – Men's marathon)? Slik ville det være mye lettere å få oversikt over om alle er riktig registrert. Altså man kunne gå gjennom alle deltagerne i maraton og sørge for at de (og kun de) har denne egenskapen (og samtidig slenge på en referanse til de offisielle resultatlistene for distansen). Det burde vel være en smal sak rent databasemessig å definere Q1798983 som en undergruppe av Q8577 slik at man også kan hente ut alle OL-deltagerne hvis man ønsker det. Er det noe som eventuelt må diskuteres et sted, eller hvordan fungerer det? --Wikijens (talk) 10:30, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Hmm, det er et veldig godt spørsmål, og til slike pleier jeg ikke ha gode svar. Kanskje best å spørre på Property talk:P1344 eller Wikidata:Project chat, muligens? Jon Harald Søby (talk) 10:34, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Min første tanke er at vi bør bruke den generelle (Sommer-OL 2012) for P1344, og så heller få med den mer spesifikke med en kvalifikator, men hvilken kvalifikator man da skal bruke er et annet spørsmål. Kanskje må man lage en ny en. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 10:35, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Ok. Har forsøkt å stille spørsmålet der (på litt klønete engelsk). Så får vi se. Hvis jeg er uklar i terminologien må du gjerne pusse på innlegget/klargjøre. --Wikijens (talk) 11:11, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Forresten, når det gjelder kvalifikator til P1344, kunne jeg tenke meg mulighet for å legge inn landet vedkommende representerte. Hvis det skulle bli vedtatt at man heller legger inn f.eks. Maraton menn osv., kunne jeg tenke meg en kvalifikator som ga plassering/resultat. Dette ville være nyttig, tror jeg, både for å kunne generere automatiske lister og statistikk og kategorier og også luke ut feil. --Wikijens (talk) 11:38, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Ja, det kunne vært veldig nyttig, spesielt for utøvere som har representert Sovjetunionen, SUS og Armenia i OL, men også for spesielt britiske fotballspillere som jo kan representere England, Wales eller Anguilla for den saks skyld. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 11:45, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Hei igjen. Det kom aldri noen respons på diskusjonssiden. Jeg har nå lagt inn øvelsesdeltagelse for OL 2006 og 2010 i elementet Q441622 (Erjon Tola). Jeg synes det virker greit egentlig, og det fantes også en qualifier "ranking" som jeg antok kunne brukes til plassering. Jeg har lagt til denne for super-g og storslalom 2006. I slalom kjørte han ut, så usikker på hva som er fornuftig ranking, mens i 2014 var han påmeldt, men kjørte ingen øvelser. Uansett, det er bare en slags test av mulighetene. Vet du om ranking er brukt som det er ment her? Hvorfor ble det 35±1 osv? Hvordan får jeg lenket til sidetall i pdf, fungerer det slik jeg har gjort det? Er det noen mulighet for at disse pdf-ene kan lagres lokalt i wikimedia? wikisource kanskje? Jeg blir veldig glad hvis du kan svare på bare noen av spørsmålene :-) Hvis det kan gjøres på denne måten, ser jeg uante muligheter for automatiske resultatlister, kontroll av feil/dobbeltoppføringer/mangler, automatisk dokumentasjon av deltagelser og resultater fra beste kilde (ol-rapportene) osv. Mvh. --Wikijens (talk) 16:22, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Wikidata:Database reports/Wikipedia versions[edit]

Dear Jon Harald; I have seen you contributing to a lot at pages linked to (as for today titled Wikipedia versions but intended in general for WMF projects). I would be happy if you can review the properties of these pages, create the missing Wikibook and Wikiversity project pages, comment on user:I18n/sandbox (where you may find many usefull queries) and comment there with new / additional ideas. Best regards Gangleri also aka I18n (talk) 16:06, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

@I18n: Hi Gangleri, nice to see you here. I don't mean to be negative, but on this list I see a lot of things that don't think make any sense. I see for example on Afar Wikipedia (Q8558395) that you have added ISO 639-3 code (P220), ISO 15924 alpha-4 code (P506) and script directionality (P1406). This doesn't make any sense at all. ISO 639-3 code (P220) is for languages. The Afar Wikipedia is not a language. ISO 15924 alpha-4 code (P506) and script directionality (P1406) are for scripts. The Afar Wikipedia is not a script. The only thing that should be specified of this sort in Afar Wikipedia (Q8558395) is that its language is Afar (Q27811), and the mentioned properties should be specified there, not in the element for the Afar Wikipedia. By adding those to the elements for Wikimedia projects you are creating a lot of constraint violations for all of these properties. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 17:47, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi! I mentioned your concerns at . Regards I18n (talk) 19:48, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
FYI: a) At is the start of a discussion about changing the domain of the five properties having constraint violations or not. b) A second discussion started at property talk:P1406#Wikimedia_projects. c) I created Wikidata:Database reports/WMF projects. Regards I18n (talk) 20:01, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
See Wikidata:Database reports/WMF projects and property talk:P218#whats next and comment there please. I18n (talk) 10:25, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

IBU biathlete identifier[edit]

Thanks a lot! :) Marcus Cyron (talk) 20:59, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

@Marcus Cyron: No, thank you for putting them all in dewiki in the first place, that's by far the wiki I imported most values from, and I saw that most of the articles (e.g. the three where I randomly checked the history) were made by you. 😊 Jon Harald Søby (talk) 07:26, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
Yes, until I stoped my engagement 10 months ago in writing about winter sports, I wrote 2222 biografies of biathletes at de:WP. We are also not bad in Ski jumpers, Nordic combined, Alpine skiiers and Skeletonistas. In Cross country will be no:WP a lot better than we ;) - and in Ice skaters nl:WP. Marcus Cyron (talk) 17:46, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Norwegian municipality number (P2504)[edit]

Norwegian municipality number (P2504) is ready. --Fralambert (talk) 18:02, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Request for Property[edit]

God kveld ! Hvordan virker en slik request. Jeg tenkte å be om en for Embedte. mvh --Pmt (talk) 19:05, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

@Pmt: Det har vi allerede, position held (P39). Se eksempel på bruk i John Magufuli (Q5018756). Jon Harald Søby (talk) 18:31, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Hei igjen, ja ser at Betegnelsen embedte er brukt på de andre språkene. Er det da bare å endre den norske beskrivelsen til politisk verv personen innehar eller har innehatt til f.eks embedte eller politisk verv personen innehar eller har innehatt mvh --Pmt (talk) 05:20, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
@Pmt: Jupp. 😊 Jon Harald Søby (talk) 06:01, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Medlemmer av kompani Linge[edit]

Hei ! Det er jo mulig å legge inn Qalifiers for personer som ikke har artikkel på Wikipedia. Er dette noe som er ønskelig eller bør det ungåes ? Detter er I forbindelse med autogeneret liste over medlemmer I kompani Linge. mvh --Pmt (talk) 16:28, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

@Pmt: Jada, det er ikke noe problem. Å ha Wikipedia-artikkel er ikke noe krav for å ha et Wikidata-element. (Jeg har selv oppretta utallige artikkelløse elementer, særlig i forbindelse med norsk film. Se [6].) Jon Harald Søby (talk) 17:43, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Notice of removal of global bot status from one or various accounts of yours[edit]

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¡Thank you very much Jon Harald Søby! From--Aida13 (talk) 11:12, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Tunisian Arabic[edit]

As shown in the new edition of Ethnologue, Tunisian Arabizi (One of the Latin Scripts used for Tunisian) has been recognized as a common script for Tunisian Arabic. As it is the most used script in Internet, we will use it in Wp/aeb. I have slightly modified this method so that it can be converted to Arabic Script. I have created a script converter for Tunisian Arabizi and I will implement it with explanations very soon. However, I need to test it before. So, you are invited to change the name of Tunisian Arabic in Latin Script into Tounsi and change the editing software of Tunisian Arabic Wikipedia into Left to Right format. Thank you in advance. --Csisc (talk) 16:33, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

national heritage site (Q358) og cultural property (Q2065736)[edit]

Hei, du la inn «historisk minne» som etikett for national heritage site (Q358) en gang i tiden. Jeg endra den til «kulturminne», men nå lurer jeg på om jeg angrer fordi jeg ikke klarer å komme opp med beskrivelser for å skille de to begrepene. Men er «historisk minne» en term? Kan «minnesmerke» funke? Jeg er superforvirra, og jeg får også litt på følelsen av at etiketten og beskrivelsen på engelsk og tysk kanskje ikke samsvarer helt i omfang, uten at jeg er sikker. Se Talk:Q2065736#Distinction_between_kulturminne_.28Q358.29_and_kulturminne_.28Q2065736.29_.28again.29. Danmichaelo (talk) 17:31, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

@Danmichaelo: Hmm, det der husker jeg ikke i det hele tatt. Har ingen formening om hva som er riktig – tror jeg oversatte fra fransk «monument historique», men det er godt mulig at «kulturminne» er bedre. Hva som da blir forskjellen mellom de to har jeg ingen formening om, ass. Sorry. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 09:55, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Property Byggemateriale[edit]

Hei! Finnest det noen Verdi(P) som beskriver materialet en byggning eller fartøy er utført i  ? mvh --Pmt (talk) 22:48, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Italian Lucius Manlius Capitolinus (Q3838896)[edit]


I undid your bot's description as that seems a bit too early given the date of birth/death of the person. You may want to review similar ones.
--- Jura 14:31, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, Jura1! The bot only followed the statements of the item, which at the time the descriptions were added was set to "Italy" (maybe based on birthplace? It was added by a bot). Jon Harald Søby (talk) 07:55, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
Surely, but how shall we do to "unfollow"? The problem with adding generic static descriptions is that they aren't replaced by auto-descriptions.
--- Jura 19:48, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Message in your FB[edit]

I had put a message in your Facebook messenger, please try to attend that.--Vinayaraj (talk) 16:05, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Dødsdato Per Lønning[edit]

Har du referanse på datoen. Jeg har lett, men ikke funnet. Haros (talk) 21:16, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Hei Haros, jeg tok bare datoen som sto på Wikipedia uten å sjekke noe nærmere. Som en hommelfingerregel vil jeg påstå at folk som får sin død slått opp i riksmediene som regel har dødd samme dag (om det først rapporteres på kvelden) eller dagen før (om det rapporteres på morgenen), uten at det er noen god kilde å bruke... Jon Harald Søby (talk) 06:21, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Nettopp. Men dette kom om morgenen (rett før 09:00 på nrk) den 22. Det var derfor jeg ikke ville legge inn 22 eller 21 uten å ha kilde på det. Men vi finner ut av det etterhvert. Jeg er mest ute etter å få den eksakte datoen kildebelagt, nå har vi det bare nesten. Haros (talk) 06:29, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Merci de ton accueil[edit]


Merci de ton accueil. J'ai découvert Wikidata depuis peu de temps et des questions j'en ai des milliers. Je travail surtout sur le Wikipedia francophone et en particulier sur le Projet:Îles en ce moment. Pour l'instant, j'ai vu que les coordonnées géographiques des îles de wikidata pouvaient etre récupérées par le modéle Infobox Île. Comment cela est possible et serait-il possible de le faire pour d'autres données de l'infobox (superficie, population, date population, fuseau horaire, point culminant, nom de ce point, pays, ....) Merci de ton aide. A bientot. CaptainHaddock (talk) 14:56, 1 November 2016 (UTC) Sorry, do you speak french ? CaptainHaddock (talk) 14:57, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Désolé, c'est encore moi. Sur Q815838, je voudrais ajouter fr:wikt:Belle-Île-en-Mer dans Autres sites. Comment faut-il faire. Merci CaptainHaddock (talk) 15:36, 1 November 2016 (UTC)


Hello! Unfortunately, you have made less than 5 admin actions in the last 6 months, and your sysop permissions were removed. Thanks for your work in the past! --Rschen7754 17:26, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

@Rschen7754: Alright, thanks for the message. I'll reapply if I need them again, but since ever merging was enabled there hasn't been much stuff that I regularly need to use the tools for anyways, so it's fine. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 10:31, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

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Dejan Krsmanović[edit]

Are you shure? This man is a mountain range? Nearly 16 months this was in data set... Marcus Cyron (talk) 22:31, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

@Marcus Cyron: Thanks for spotting that! No idea how that happened. Only explanation is that I accedentally pressed something in the Wikidata useful script, and I see it does have mountain range in there, so that's probably it. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 22:42, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Nyhetsbrev fra Wikimedia Norge[edit]

Jon Harald Søby (WMNO) 16:07, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

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identical lifespan[edit]

Hi Jon Harald Søby. Just to let you know that a few Norwegians came up on Wikidata:Database_reports/identical_birth_and_death_dates/1.
--- Jura 08:10, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

@Jura1: Thank you, I was wondering where I could find a report like that! On it now. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 10:32, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

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Hei! Er det fritt fram å opprette hjelpesider. Jeg vil forsøke å lage en for Norwegian List of Lights ID (P4055). Mvh --Pmt (talk) 15:55, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

@Pmt: Javisst! Men det kan kanskje være greiest å ha det på diskusjonssida til egenskapen, med mindre du tenker på noen skikkelig utfyllende greier. Hvilket språk du skriver på kan du også velge helt selv, det er helt greit å ha det på norsk. Har du forresten fått importert alle fyrlistenumrene ennå? Hvis ikke så har jeg noen triks i ermet som gjør det veldig enkelt. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 20:20, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
Tenkte å mer eller mindre bruke Help:P2091 som basis for en hjelpeside for Norwegian List of Lights ID (P4055). Det er ikke så mye å legge ut om for å kunne bruke fyrlistenummerene I et element. Og morsomt å forsøke seg.
Det er 188 element med forekomst av norske fyr. Og 25 av disse har fått fyrlistenummer [7] . Jeg sitter med en PDF fil og norsk fyrliste I papir format. Så veldig fort går det ikke. Så om du har noen triks så gjerne det. MvhPmt (talk) 20:51, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
Vi kan få inn alle fyrene på lista, uavhengig av om de har element fra før av. Kan du sende meg (lenke til) PDF-fila? Jon Harald Søby (talk) 20:53, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
Her er lista [8] men denne omfatter 7165 objekter som spenner fra Fyrstasjoner (hovedfyr) til jernstenger med blinkelys. Så det som på Wikipedia er listet som fyr er de objektene som har forkortingen FS I beskrivelse. I tillegg ser det ut til at hovedfyr har xxxx00 som listenummer med Færder som 000100. Mvh Pmt (talk) 21:22, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
@Pmt: Akk, for en håpløs tabell å prøve å kopiere. Prøver å få til noe, men det kan ta litt tid å få det riktig, skal holde deg oppdatert. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 23:29, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Bo P. Kaiser (Q5897398)[edit]

Hey Jon Harald Søby, I’d like to ask whether these two edits are actually correct, or whether something went wrong here. Thanks and regards! —MisterSynergy (talk) 21:25, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

@MisterSynergy: Oh, thanks for noticing! I put the wrong item ID in Petscan, I'll go through my other edits to see if I did it in more places. Sorry! Jon Harald Søby (talk) 21:27, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
No problem, that’s why I’m asking… Face-wink.svgMisterSynergy (talk) 21:30, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
All fixed now! Jon Harald Søby (talk) 22:34, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

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Wikidata Wiktionary[edit]

Hei! Jeg fikk en tilbakestilling når jeg la til et element fra Wikidata til Wiktionary. Jeg har vært litt spent påhvordan forbindelsen mellom Wikidata og Wiktionary skal virke, og forstår av diskusjoner at et element ikke kal kobles. Hva er egentlig grunnen til det? Ord i Wiktionary blir jo koblet til Wikipedia. Mvh Pmt Pmt (talk) 16:08, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

@Pmt: Wiktionary gjør interwiki på sin egen måte, mellom tilsvarende stavemåter på forskjellige språk. Dette håndteres av en egen utvidelse på Wiktionary kalt Cognate, så interwikilenker der skal ikke gå via Wikidata. De eneste sidelenkene som skal legges inn på Wikidata er de som ikke er for oppslagsord, dvs. kategorier, maler, prosjektsider osv.
Så vidt jeg har hørt skal det komme en egen datatype på Wikidata for ord, eller leksem, men det er (som du skjønner) ikke på plass ennå.
Grunnen til dette er jo måten sider er bygd opp på på Wiktionary, der forskjellige betydninger på forskjellige språk er samla på samme side. Skal f.eks. wikt:en:barn kobles til granary (Q114768), child (Q7569) eller review (Q265158)? Jon Harald Søby (talk) 16:14, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

"family name" in Bengali[edit]

Just a heads up, since this was present in your previous surname run: the term for "family name" in Bengali is "পারিবারিক নাম", not "পারিবারিক নামাম". Mahir256 (talk) 00:49, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

@Mahir256: Thanks for the note, I'll take a round with my bot to replace it! Jon Harald Søby (talk) 00:53, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

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Etternavnet Holm[edit]

Hei, finnes det noen enkel måte å erstatte Q18515509 med Q10525262 for de personene det gjelder? --Cavernia (talk) 07:57, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

@Cavernia: Enkleste er bare å vente til det kommer en bot og gjør det, det pleier ikke å ta så veldig lang tid. Med mindre det haster av noen grunn? Jon Harald Søby (talk) 09:04, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

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Nyhetsbrev fra Wikimedia Norge[edit]

Jon Harald Søby (WMNO) 15:49, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

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Språk i etikettlisten[edit]

Hei. Tidligere fikk jeg tilgang til etikett på alle språk jeg hadde lagt inn i babel-listen, men nå har jeg kun engelsk, bokmål, nynorsk og samisk. Vet du hvordan man kan endre dette tilbake? Mvh. --Wikijens (talk) 13:29, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

@Wikijens: Jeg gjorde nettopp en dummyredigering på brukersida di, hjalp det? Hvis ikke bør du prøve å logge ut og logge inn igjen. Alt funker som det skal for meg, så det høres ut som noe hikke en plass i systemet. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 13:32, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Takk. Det var åpenbart det som skulle til. Nå har jeg alle språk igjen! --Wikijens (talk) 13:36, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
@Wikijens: Yay! Jon Harald Søby (talk) 13:38, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

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Hei. Er det fortsatt slik at iw-lenking av pekersider dels baseres på ordlikhet og dels på betydningslikhet (som jo av og til skaper konflikt) eller er det forsøkt avklart? Konkret eksempel: Bør Q28657094 flettes over til Q1734972 og hvis ja, er det mulig å unngå å få med alle labels "Sint-Casimirkerk" (bortsett fra nederlandsk)? Mvh. --Wikijens (talk) 09:13, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

@Wikijens: Jeg er neimen ikke sikker. Jeg syns det gir mening å slå dem sammen, men det virker ikke som om det er retningslinjene. Det jeg fant der var denne sida (se spesielt diskusjonssida, det er mange lignende spørsmål der, men ikke noen entydige svar …). Det beste er kanskje å koble de to pekersidene sammen med said to be the same as (P460). Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:25, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

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i need help[edit]

Hi, thanks for welcoming me in wiki data. I want to make list like this , but i dont know how to start, can you help me?--Mojackjutaily (talk) 22:49, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

@Mojackjutaily: Sure! The difficult part of these lists is to create the right SPARQL query. They can be a bit tricky, especially if you've never used them before, but luckily there are plenty of good examples available on the query service.
If you tell me what you would like the list to contain, I can help you create an example, and show what the different parts of it do. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 23:04, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
well, i wanna make lists about different topic . one about Directors without an article in the Arabic wiki (here a list about actor), a wanna make Similar one . And second list about singer with the same idea.--Mojackjutaily (talk) 20:47, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

and both with most sitelinks.--Mojackjutaily (talk) 20:52, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

@Mojackjutaily: Alright, so for film directors, this query will do the trick. What you need to do with it is to copypaste the query, and use it in the {{Wikidata list}} template on a page (preferrably on arwiki). I put some comments in the query to explain what is going on in what line. To do the same for singers, just replace "Q2526255" on line 4 with "Q177220". (Tip: When editing a query on that site, you can click Ctrl+Space to write label for something in your language, instead of having to remember or copypaste the Q numbers.)
In the {{Wikidata list}} template there are many things you can choose to have displayed, as is explained on the template documentation. For this list of directors, I personally would choose their name and picture, gender, citizenship, date of birth and death and IMDb ID, as well as the number of sitelinks. To get that in the template, use the following for the parameter "columns":
P18:Image,label:Article,P21:Gender,P27:Country,P569:Date of birth,P570:Date of death,P345:IMDb,?linkcount:Links
The label that is shown will be in the language of the wiki by default, so if you put this on the Arabic Wikipedia, it will be shown in Arabic as long as there is an Arabic label for that person in Wikidata. If there is not, I think it will show English, but it might show the Q number instead. Also, with the parameter links you can choose whether it should have red links to create articles in the Arabic Wikipedia, or if the links should point to the Wikidata item. I imagine a lot of these people will not have Arabic labels, since there is no article, so I would actually recommend you to link to Wikidata (using links=all) so that you can visit the item to see other Wikipedia's article titles, making it easier to transcribe names.
I hope that's enough, but if you're having any trouble with the template or anything, don't hesitate to ask – I'd be happy to create the list for you, but it's an even better learning experience to try yourself first. :-) Jon Harald Søby (talk) 21:20, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

turn out someone made a list about directors, so i made one about female actor but nothing happening. here is mine . --Mojackjutaily (talk) 11:39, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

@Mojackjutaily: Works now, you did things correct, the only thing missing was that you need to click the "Update list manually" link ("تحديث القائمة" in Arabic). Jon Harald Søby (talk) 11:41, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
yes it did, thank you very much my friend, now i will do list for singers and then albums . i really appropriate your help. --Mojackjutaily (talk) 11:45, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
No problem, any time! :-) Jon Harald Søby (talk) 11:47, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your message[edit]

Thanks, Jon Harald Søby. I am not sure what I would find to do here. For now I work here indirectly through page moves on various Wikipedias that are captured as Wikidata entries. However, if you noticed somthing specific that I could be doing by virtue of speaking Portuguese/ working with Angola, please don't hesitate to drop me a line. Rui Gabriel Correia (talk) 09:22, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

@Rui Gabriel Correia: Yeah, I realize most of the people I welcome probably didn't actively go to Wikidata to edit, but I think it's still useful to have the welcome template, as it gives some good links and pointers to where to start and how to edit. After all, more and more wikis are using infoboxes containing information from Wikidata, so it's nice to be aware of where to go to edit stuff that pertains to that.
As for Angola, I don't know anything specific, but there's always plenty of stuff to do if you look in the right places. Especially for African countries, Wikidata's coverage is–like Wikipedia's–often rudimentary, so for example going to items about places in Angola and adding the relevant located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) for example could be a good place to start. But don't worry too much about it, if you're busy editing Wikipedia that's just as valuable a contribution! Jon Harald Søby (talk) 21:35, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment. I am very very new here, and have only made one or two minor corrections on the past. My biggest contribution by far is my recent inclusion of a Greek language entry for Voltaire famous (or infamous) novella, Candide. Any assistance or instruction you may provide in terms of improving my entry will be very much appreciated.DMaiga

Hi, Dramaiga52! That looks like a very good start to me, but I'm afraid I can't help too much because I don't understand Greek. I did notice that the user Texniths added a few templates to the article, which indicate that the article needs some formatting (the subject of the article in bold, internal links to relevant pages, etc.). If you take a look at Βικιπαίδεια:Βοήθεια, there should be a lot of links that can help you with that, and I'm sure Texniths would be happy to help if you ask him/her. :-) Jon Harald Søby (talk) 01:59, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your note, Jon. I'm probably going to stick to editing existing Wikipedia-started entries until I get the hang of it but I appreciate you reaching out to offer assistance. BologniousMonk (talk) 04:55, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

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Similar pages are qualified as disambiguations or as surnames in different language versions. It's a problem to be solved rather than a vandalism diagnosed by you. Xx236 (talk) 08:57, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

@Xx236: Sorry, didn't mean to imply it was vandalism! The rule for names here is that one string = one item. So the names Radziwon and Radzivon (and whatever other variations) should be different items. It does lead to some inconveniences with regards to interwiki links, but I don't really think there's a better way to solve it than to keep it separate when the articles are (purportedly) different classes. Anyways, an item can't be (or shouldn't be) both a Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410) and a male given name (Q12308941), they are logically two very different things.
Also, the two sitelinks that you merged into the male given name "Radziwon" are actually about the surname "Radziwon", which would be Radziwon (Q37216792). Jon Harald Søby (talk) 09:06, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

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Wilchen Riboldt (Q12010625)[edit]

I've removed a statement you had added. You might want to readd it, I just didn't find a source and there are sources for the same day one year earlier. Best regards, --Marsupium (talk) 10:46, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

@Marsupium: Thanks! It was added as part of the Wikidata game via no:Wilchen Riboldt, I've corrected the date in that article now. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 10:56, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
Ah, ok, thank you! --Marsupium (talk) 10:58, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

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Thank you 😊.[edit]

Thank you for the welcome message. -- 徵國單  (討論 🀄) (方孔錢 💴) 15:57, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

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