Wikidata:Property proposal/Oxford English Dictionary object identifier

‎Oxford English Dictionary object identifier[edit]

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Lexemes

Done: ‎Oxford English Dictionary object ID (post-July 2023) (P12510) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for an entry (or sub-entry) in the Oxford English Dictionary, as the suffix to a DOI issued by the OED
Represents	The Oxford English Dictionary (Q44996)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	English lexemes and their senses
Allowed values	[0-9]{10}
Example 1	set up (L733) → 1015757870
Example 2	mourners' bench (L1236609) → 1186863672
Example 3	blue norther (L1236608) → 4740933333
Example 4	lose (L4186-S1) → 7682304582
Example 5	lose (L4186-S2) → 9811653398
Example 7	lose (L4186-S4) → 9566324441
Example 8	lose (L4186-S5) → 4606294672
Example 9	lose (L4186-S6) → 3771531058
Example 10	lose (L4186-S7) → 1010341789
Example 11	lose (L4186-S8) → 4323295570
Example 12	lose (L4186-S9) → 5024595845
Example 13	lose (L4186-S11) → 1273677318
Source	https://www.oed.com/
Planned use	add to English entries that do not have applicable Oxford English Dictionary entry ID (pre-July 2023) (P5275) values, as well as to senses as needed
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	https://doi.org/10.1093/OED/$1
See also	Oxford English Dictionary entry ID (pre-July 2023) (P5275), Green's Dictionary of Slang ID (P11481)
Applicable "stated in"-value	The Oxford English Dictionary (Q44996)

Motivation[edit]

In June 2023 the Oxford English Dictionary discontinued exposing URLs of the form "https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/n" for integer n (as expected by Oxford English Dictionary entry ID (pre-July 2023) (P5275)) in favor of URLs of the form "https://www.oed.com/dictionary/url-slug-with-hyphens_and-underscore" using a URL slug with hyphens and an underscore. While it is still possible to add values for P5275 from this index of values, and while existing links using the old URL scheme currently still resolve, there will nevertheless be entries added since that index was made that would not have appropriate P5275 values, and since the values used with P5275 are not exposed in the current OED entry pages, there would be no way to add P5275 values for those newer entries.

To get the object identifier for a particular (sub-)entry, it is enough to click "Cite" on that entry and note the integer at the end of the DOI in the citation.

I believe this identifier will be more valuable than simply using the URL slugs because sub-entries of OED entries (including phrasal verbs and individual entry meanings and sub-meanings) can be identified this way as well: the examples given for "set up" and the senses of "lose" (to the extent that I could map each of them to a distinct (sub-)sense in the OED entry for that verb) do not have a portable and succinct URL slug that would work with the /dictionary/ URL scheme. Mahir256 (talk) 18:14, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

Support I can’t view these entries from my phone without a subscription but I should be able to from my work ip address. AdamSeattle (talk) 11:29, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment looking at the example DOI links, it seems to points to https://www.oed.com/dictionary/mourners-bench_n?tab=meaning_and_use#11355608 which basically just points to a paywall 99% of the time as opposed to https://www.oed.com/dictionary/mourners-bench_n or https://www.oed.com/dictionary/mourners-bench_n?tab=factsheet#11355608 which points to some actually useful info for any user. Another thing to notice is that the DOI links seem to be actually inconsistent, again in the examples: