Wikidata:Property proposal/Minerals.net mineral ID

Minerals.net mineral and gemstone ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Natural science

   Done: Minerals.net mineral and gemstone ID (P12070) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for a mineral or gemstone on Minerals.net
Represents	Minerals.net (Q121890280)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	item; mineral (Q7946) or gemstone (Q83437)
Allowed values	(mineral|gemstone)\/[a-z\_\-\']+
Example 1	spodumene (Q120547) → mineral/spodumene
Example 2	pinite (Q121850529) → mineral/pinite
Example 3	chrysoberyl (Q422179) → mineral/chrysoberyl
Example 4	pyrophyllite (Q409470) → mineral/pyrophyllite
Example 5	kernite (Q424502) → mineral/kernite
Example 6	salammoniac (Q2451851) → mineral/sal_ammoniac
Example 7	iron-nickel (Q121890492) → mineral/iron-nickel
Example 8	amethyst (Q79058) → gemstone/amethyst_gemstone
Example 9	heliotrope (Q430174) → gemstone/bloodstone_gemstone
Example 10	diopside (Q316671) → gemstone/diopside_gemstone
Example 11	chromdiopside (Q2754504) → gemstone/chrome_diopside_gemstone
Example 12	emerald (Q43513) → gemstone/emerald_gemstone
Example 13	kyanite (Q193450) → gemstone/kyanite_gemstone
Example 14	malachite (Q164411) → gemstone/malachite_gemstone
Example 15	rose quartz (Q429911) → gemstone/rose_quartz_gemstone
Example 16	tiger's eye (Q430007) → gemstone/tiger's_eye_gemstone
Example 17	azurite-malachite (Q121890693) → gemstone/azure-malachite_gemstone
Source	https://www.minerals.net/
Planned use	adding to items edited or created
Number of IDs in source	several hundred
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	https://www.minerals.net/$1.aspx
See also	Mindat mineral ID (P6263), Kivid.info ID (P7348)
Applicable "stated in"-value	Minerals.net (Q121890280)

Motivation

Chris.urs-o Sbisolo (User:SbisoloBot, Special:Contributions/SbisoloBot) Tobias1984 John Mortimore lmullberry.urs-o--L.mullbery (talk) 09:48, 2 March 2019 (UTC)lmullberry Bug2266 (talk) 15:31, 22 March 2019 (UTC) Vivian S Zitek 00:30, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Notified participants of WikiProject Mineralogy

The Minerals.net (Q121890280) website is a free informational and educational guide to rocks, minerals, gemstones, and jewelry. "This site has been providing detailed information and photos of hundreds of mineral and gemstone since 1997 and is one of the leading education resources on minerals and gemstones." Information for minerals includes a description of each mineral, chemical formula, composition, color, streak, hardness, crystal system, crystal forms, transparency, specific gravity, luster, cleavage, classification, rock type, environment found in, uses, noteworthy locations, common mineral associations, comparisons with other similar minerals, photographs, and links to other online resources. Information for gemstones includes a description of each gemstone, chemical formula, color, hardness, crystal system, refractive index, specific gravity, transparency, luster, cleavage, and mineral class, uses, varieties, sources, similar gemstones, and photographs. AdamSeattle (talk) 18:58, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Discussion

 Support I support. Seems a useful source of information! Riesengrey (talk) 19:17, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 Support I agree with @Riesengrey. metadataguy (talk) 22:03, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

 Weak support the page in the current state is active for around 10 years with a long period of inactivity. Like many other websites about minerals, this is also a private project, but much smaller than e.g. Mindat. As I stated in Wikidata:Property proposal/Minerals.net gemstone ID I don't think that this requires creation of two properties, one would be perfectly fine, because we don't have any identifiers here, just fragments of URLs. What's more, I don't think that such page is a good source for any physical properties of minerals in Wikidata, proper scientific sources should be used for this. Wostr (talk) 22:49, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

 Weak support Very good points, particularly about the physical properties. We already have a huge wrong data propagation, and adding a proprietary database that may disappear as source only makes that worse. In that respect, an Internet Archive of that website would help. Egon Willighagen (talk) 07:29, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

 Support I think Wostr is on to something about combining this with the other minerals.net proposal. --Crystal Yragui, University of Washington Libraries (talk) 14:57, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

 Support Emwille (talk) 14:41, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

 Comment I have modified the formatter URL to accommodate both minerals and gemstones into one property. AdamSeattle (talk) 22:22, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

@AdamSeattle, Riesengrey, Wostr, Egon Willighagen, Clements.UWLib, Emwille: @metadataguy::

 Done Minerals.net mineral and gemstone ID (P12070) --Luca.favorido (talk) 05:35, 9 October 2023 (UTC)