Wikidata:Property proposal/British Listed Buildings Online ID

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‎British Listed Buildings Online ID[edit]

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Place

DescriptionBritish Listed Buildings Online ID
RepresentsBritish Listed Buildings (Q25118129)
Data typeExternal identifier
DomainQ570600
Allowed values[0-9]*
Example 1Dover Castle (Q26346404)British Listed Buildings Online ID101077981
Example 2Dover Castle Public House (Q27080836)British Listed Buildings Online ID101223091
Example 3Stone Vase on East Bank of gardens at Powis Castle (Q29494429)British Listed Buildings Online ID300016788
Sourcehttps://britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/data/all-entries.csv
Planned usePopulate 460k entries, add military sites to https//warlike.expounder.info, tourist attractions to https://wheretoday.expounder.info
Number of IDs in source460000
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/$1
Robot and gadget jobsQuickStatement to populate
See alsoNational Heritage List for England number (P1216), Cadw Building ID (P1459), Historic Environment Scotland ID (P709), NIEA building ID (P1460)
Single-value constraintyes

Motivation[edit]

British Listed Buildings Online is a site running since 2010 that aims to crowd source images of British Listed Buildings, ie those with significant heritage value. It is comprehensive, stable and under active development. It uses WD elements to populate its database, and WD links are on each page. The owner has provided a CSV file mapping their internal IDs to QID, and promises to update it. It provides a good alternative source of curated building images to Wikimedia Commons or Geograph. Photos are shared under a Creative Commons licence  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vicarage (talk • contribs) at 16:53, 6 February 2024‎ (UTC).[reply]

Discussion[edit]

  •  Support The data and listing text is (I think) essentially a copy of the info in the 4 national listed buildings registers that we already link to; and some of the photographs may be from Geograph that we already have on Commons. But other photographs may be unique to this site; and it's attractively presented; (and round-tripping our data is always useful for a validity check); so for those reasons I support. The site has extensive links back to wikidata, and also systematic geographical data, so should be straightforward to match to wikidata IDs. The type-tagging in the pages there could also be a useful addition to our instance of (P31) data. (ADDED: Even better that the site author is happy to give us a CSV). A useful addition to the sites we link to for these historic buildings. Jheald (talk) 12:36, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Vicarage: not sure why you have marked it always incomplete (Q21873886) -- we should already have Qids for all of the listed buildings at the site; if there are any further items there, that is likely to indicate some heritage significance and therefore that they too are probably notable. Jheald (talk) 12:46, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They are adding a trickle of new entries all the time, some 20000 don't have QIDs, and buildings are being listed all the time, so I expect there will always be inconsistencies. I will write up the update script that could be run, Vicarage (talk) 14:33, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The entire register has already been imported for National Heritage List for England number (P1216) and etc. multiple times in the past, so we can safely assume that all listed buildings are notable and the missing IDs just haven't been added yet - eventually complete (Q21873974) fits best imo. --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 01:03, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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