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Heads up about a strange account behavior[edit]

On my home rc feed, I keep seeing this account, User: L E M G T H, moving articles in Croatian, by changing all the instances of the letter N in the title to M. For example, moving "Kanaan" (Canaan) to "Kamaam". I don't know any Croatian, and have not been involved, but I would assume it's wrong. I have seen other accounts reverting him back again, but now he just did a whole slue more of them. It might be a internal matter for them, but I think you can stop him from moving pages by blocking him here. Just a heads up Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 20:22, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

@Til Eulenspiegel: Blocked for a week. @Denny, Kubura, Fraxinus: who can fix the issues on hrwiki. Mahir256 (talk) 20:43, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
Mahir256, the mostly active admins are Tulkas Astaldo, Fraxinus, Zeljko and myself (Kubura). Denny has been inactive for over 15 years and he was stripped of admin tools because of that. Kubura (talk) 19:33, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
Also @Mateo K 01, Tulkas Astaldo: since you have been correcting some of these already. Mahir256 (talk) 21:42, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
I'm seeing cases on sewiki: Bovlb (talk) 22:47, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
se:Geavaheaddjeságastallan:Yupik#Problem_with_page_moves I attempted to contact a local adminstrator. Bovlb (talk) 23:09, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
I appreciate the heads up and thanks for jumping in and taking care of the problem. The user picked the perfect time to do this on the se-wiki since I've been on a plane for the last 10 or so hours... -Yupik (talk) 13:41, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
And from global contributions, also Slovenian. sl:Posebno:Prispevki/L_E_M_G_T_H The user is currently blocked there. Bovlb (talk) 23:14, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
And in Romanian Bovlb (talk) 04:44, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Blocking User: L E M G T H here doesn't help. They still moved the page for Netherlands (Q55) at sewiki (se:Special:Diff/284164), and then the Wikidata item was updated by EmausBot (Special:Diff/705532705). --Dipsacus fullonum (talk) 07:57, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
PS. Maybe my point was not clear. Blocking here doesn't prevent moving Wikipedia pages, and Wikidata will be updated anyway by interwiki bots. Blocking will just make it harder to track the moving, because it will no longer appear in the user's list of contributions to Wikidata. --Dipsacus fullonum (talk) 08:34, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
User is already locked. Next time please contact stewards if you see such vandalism in more than 1 wiki. Stryn (talk) 13:29, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
User L E M G T H is obviously fooling around. His name and his behaviour suggest his intention: instead of leNgth, he named himself leMgth. N -> M. Kubura (talk) 19:33, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Can we block &beer&love please[edit]

user:&beer&love is prolific with petscan, but seems to have little care for the accuracy of the statements inserted. Not untypical is this gem - adding a point in time based on a misreading of 4 digits. &beer&love does not appear willing to engage in discussion about the quality of their work, nor to fix issues when raised - example.

It sucks that we have an individual injecting crap into the dataset, and unwilling to engage. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:19, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

@Tagishsimon: ✓ Done for three days, but any admin may undo this block earlier if he or she desires. I must agree that the specific sorts of edits that the user has been making are somewhat problematic, heightened slightly by the Stan Lee incident above, and certainly deserve thorough explanations and remedies. Mahir256 (talk) 03:32, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

This user does not disrupt Wikidata on propose; Stan Lee's incorrect birth date was imported from a vandalized Italian Wikipedia article. The vandalism is removed and I think the protection on Stan Lee's item should be removed  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs) at 19:13, 9 July 2018‎ (UTC).

The user puts false date of death (P570) into many articles (e.g. on my watchlist; Zoltán Szentirmai (Q1296964), Ahron Daum (Q15215308), Ehsan Jami (Q983182)) and puts them back after I reverted many times her/his edits. I think she/he should at least check that these information are true or false, but she/he puts them back again and again. The main problem is that we do not (and cannot) know how many similar edits she/he made. Bencemac (talk) 17:36, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Asunto 1
esta carga de 25 items con sexo equivocado fue un error por mi parte. Yo para encontrar los errores quería contejarlo con nombre propios.
Asunto 2
Estoy usando
Para los datos incorrectos (sea la razón que sea) que se añaden por error
- ¿cómo se gestiona: se tipifica como "nivel obsoleto" o se elimina?
- ¿cómo detectan los demás usuarios que usen la aplicación que no deben adicionar esa fecha?
- ¿Se elimina las fechas de defunción de las wikipedias de importación, como si nunca se hubieran escrito. o se referencia por ejemplo una url del hoax.?
En las correcciones de cargas erróneas he visto diferentes formas de actuación, había tipificado como obsoleto, marcando incluso un criterio, pero tambien se considera erróneo. Se borra la fecha en Wikidata, pero no modifican los datos de la wikipedia de importación Ehsan Jami (Q983182) (en árabe), lo cual lleva a un error repetitivo. Otros usuario (no yo) lo marcan como "obsoleto" y no se les borra (siempre).
Como usuario, he estado corrigiendo sexos errónes, incluso revirtiendo ediciones de años pasados.
--&beer&love (talk) 18:27, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
@&beer&love: Muchas gracias por su explicación. Siempre puede pedir a una hablante del idioma de un wiki a puede corregir un error allá si no lo puede corregir si mismo—aprendía que muchas veces solamente preguntar a los bibliotecarios de otros wikis a hacer algo vale el esfuerzo. Preferimos aquí eliminar datos erróneos si no hay referencia (no consideramos wikis de Wikimedia referencias válidas) para ellos; en otro caso lo marcamos obsoleto. Creo que @Pasleim: puede ayudarle modificar la herramienta a detectar datos erróneos que no deben ser añadidos. Mahir256 (talk) 18:45, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Creo que &beer&love fue bloqueado porque agregó un sex or gender (P21) incorrecto con PetScan, una herramienta que no mantengo. Con se puede añadir date of death (P570), por ejemplo. Para evitar que un valor incorrecto se añada de nuevo, puede corregir el valor directamente en Wikidata o cambiar la categoría en Wikipedia. Si se define un valor date of death (P570), recentdeaths no añade un segundo valor.--Pasleim (talk) 21:22, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Request for page protection: John Lennon (Q1203)[edit]

Page protection recently expired only to suffer another bout of IP vandalism. - Bossanoven (talk) 23:03, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

@Bossanoven: ✓ Done for three months. Mahir256 (talk) 23:37, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

@Mahir256: Thank you very much. - Bossanoven (talk) 16:08, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Taeym (talkcontribslogs) Vandalism.[edit] 04:31, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

✓ DoneMisterSynergy (talk) 05:22, 10 July 2018 (UTC)


Self-promotion item created by long-term abuser Alex9777777 (also known as Pechkurov Aleksej). --jdx Re: 09:56, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

✓ deleted --Alaa :)..! 10:36, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism by User:Schurti 1[edit]

link, also blocked in the german WP. --Verum (talk) 15:06, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done by Mahir256--Ymblanter (talk) 20:51, 10 July 2018 (UTC)


Should we really have separate entries for uncle (Q41805469) and uncle (Q76557)? - Bossanoven (talk) 19:57, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

@Bossanoven: Speakers of other languages may in fact think we don't have enough items about uncles. As a Bengali speaker, I wouldn't be surprised if we had separate, well-developed items for multiple very specific relationships to the individual. (One time on hiwiki I thought I happened upon articles about each of those relationships.) I'm also not sure this discussion needs to happen here in particular. Mahir256 (talk) 20:03, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism by[edit]

See Special:Contribs/ Conflict had accured in Russian Wikipedia between this user (this ip adress belongs to Siska188 (Sockpuppet investigation)) and Томасина. Later he was blocked in Ru-wiki due to disruptive editing and personal attacks [1]. Seems like this user desided to make revenge in Wikidata pages. Dantiras (talk) 04:48, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done, same as below--Ymblanter (talk) 05:59, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

promotional-only account[edit]

Trucksuvidha (talkcontribslogs) is a promotional-only account with promotional username. Please consider blocking. --Kostas20142 (talk) 11:28, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

deleted its contribution. --Pasleim (talk) 12:28, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[edit]

Special:Contributions/ creates a lot of duplicate items and adds descriptions in wrong languages. I'm not sure if those edits are all intentionally disruptive, but I don't (want to) keep up with correcting/merging this IP's contributions anymore and the IP doesn't react to messages on its discussion page. - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 12:46, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done blocked for 5 years (I generally try not to apply unlimited blocks to ip's) . Appears to be a static IP used by the same user and keeps persisting. If contact has been established, feel free to unblock. Multichill (talk) 15:48, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
@Multichill, Valentina.Anitnelav: Are this user's items worth nuking, then? Or are they otherwise worthy of inclusion, only needing to eliminate duplicates? Mahir256 (talk) 18:34, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
I just checked the contributions since July 11th, 14:18 (everything before that should be merged, fine or I already requested its deletion): The majority (all but one) are duplicates/not identifiable. There is one item which I would call borderline notable: Rolling in the Deep (Q55455194), an arrangement of Rolling in the Deep (Q170165) by Walt Ribeiro (Q7964051) (there is a youtube video, but I don't know more about it).
There are items created for PBS NewsHour (Q7118447) and Nightly Business Report (Q16957934) where I'm not sure about their notability: items for previous names/predecessors (?) (The Newshour with Jim Lehrer (Q55405726), no label (Q55455488)) and items for their theme music (linked to the items via theme music (P942)) - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 20:10, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protection for Q224[edit]

Please semi-protect Croatia (Q224) at least for a week - frequent IP vandalism, temporarily popular theme.--Jklamo (talk) 09:03, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done --Pasleim (talk) 09:05, 13 July 2018 (UTC)


Latest edits all reverted. Maybe only vandalism account. Pelmeen10 (talk) 12:50, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done, blocked for a week.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:07, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Current range[edit]

@Mahir256, Multichill: I think it's 92.227.94.*
--- Jura 15:21, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

@MisterSynergy: We have to take the blocks we've been applying here to the stewards (@Ajraddatz, Sjoerddebruin, علاء, HakanIST, -revi, Stryn:, all of whom are also sysops here and should be equally as concerned), as this tradeoff between enforcing a global ban and blocking innocent users from editing, about which I have been previously confronted by others, should not be a Wikidata-only issue. Mahir256 (talk) 15:45, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
Maybe you could create a security phab ticket and ask WMF staff to take care of it.
--- Jura 15:49, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
This isn't within the WMF's scope to address. I can look at a global rangeblock later today unless another steward gets to it first; you could post on m:SRG. -- Ajraddatz (talk) 16:24, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
I think we can ask them to look into it. They operate the site.
--- Jura 16:27, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
That depends on the case - they usualy do not interfere on usual problems of wiki. And I don't know what's the problem here? — regards, Revi 16:33, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
@Ajraddatz, -revi: Although to many people the topic of this section is very clearly evident, it is easy to forget that the implication is not evident to everyone. Mahir256 (talk) 16:51, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Indeed! Now it's clear that this is steward jurisdiction rather than WMF. WMF usually do not touch community global ban, it's Stewards who do so. Anyway, if you are sure they're the user evading the gban, please report it on m:SRG. — regards, Revi 16:55, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Also @Pigsonthewing, Jonas Kress (WMDE):; if you haven't asked people besides myself (or in the latter's case @Smalyshev (WMF): as well) about this issue, now is the perfect time to do so. Mahir256 (talk) 16:57, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
(ec) The problem here is that this user has access to so many IP addresses that simple project admins shouldn’t make the decision to just block all of them for a longer time. As far as I remember, we are talking about 1M IPs or even more of the ISP Telefonica Germany (geolocated in Berlin), which has the largest relative market share in Germany among mobile internet users (~35%, presumably substantially more in urban regions like Berlin). Effective range blocks would make anon editing impossible for a really substantial part of Berlin residents. —MisterSynergy (talk) 16:59, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
@Ajraddatz, -revi: As such, the question we pose to you and the other stewards here (if you'd like it elsewhere, that's fine too) is as follows: compared to how other globally banned users are handled, how should we properly approach a global ban of the sort which is the topic of this section if the user in question avoids creating accounts, while also not effectively crippling the ability of those in a large city, including WMDE developers like Jonas, to otherwise edit in good faith? Mahir256 (talk) 17:12, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
I think m:Global bans#Implementing a global ban partly answers your question. (However, we usually don't globalblock ranges if the collateral damage is too big.) — regards, Revi 12:38, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Can we just put the question to WMF (not WMDE as they don't operate the site)? I don't see the approach through admins working and WMF have paid staff to deal if such issues.
    --- Jura 18:34, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
    I do not think a reasonable solution exists.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:10, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
    WMF do not intervene on Community global bans. They only care about bans made by their own global ban rules. Ajr already told you this. — regards, Revi 12:38, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
    If it's their way of taking care of it. Can an admin ask them to look into it? This seems to be going on for months, if not years.
    --- Jura 18:26, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

The user is always using Telefonica ranges coming from AS6805. These are the ranges based on RIPEstat. I did filter out some unlikely ranges (PI space):

  • 2a0b:de00::/40
  • 2a02:3000::/23
  • 2a01:c00::/26

So if you see any suspicious you can check if it falls within these ranges or lists ASN 6805 at the bottom of the whois output or look at a looking glass if it's coming out of AS6805. Multichill (talk) 16:17, 14 July 2018 (UTC)


Hello.This IP vandalism the discussion pages.Please act.Thank you --David (talk) 09:04, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done blocked for edit warring for 31 hrs. —MisterSynergy (talk) 09:20, 14 July 2018 (UTC)


FYI, I blocked the adminstrator MisterSynergy for 5 minutes for running and unapproved bot under the main account. See also Topic:Ugw2nh22n00tfms5. Multichill (talk) 14:12, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

The 5 minutes didn't work so now it's a indefinite block. I asked MisterSynergy to unblock himself after he disabled the bot (to prevent any misunderstanding about self-unblocking). Multichill (talk) 14:21, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
Wikidata:Bots only describes vaguely for which edits a bot account must be used. As long as the edits are not disputed, I would not block a user based on that reason. --Pasleim (talk) 09:43, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

(Editing here as a user, not in admin role.) It’s meanwhile a bit unpleasant that Multichill apparently does not continue to communicate in the linked topic. I think his intervention was wrong and the block of my account a mistake, but mistakes are occasionally made even while using the admin tools. That’s okay, however as long as I have questions regarding his admin activity I expect him to be responsive. I am now waiting for more than a day to continue editing, as there are more edits in the pipe. My edits have not been critizied at all until now, thus this is just about the procedural question whether my edits should be done with a separate bot account or not. I don’t think they should, as I use the PAWS tool simply to automate edits without any non-human decision-making (“batch editing” similar as with QuickStatements for instance). I could/should have used a flooder flag, however, to enable users to hide them from their watchlists.
More in general: the bot policy has a weakness in that it does not really justify its existence. It was created in the early days of Wikidata, probably based on the fact that counterparts in Wikipedias exist, but way before the various batch editing tools came into operation. Nowadays, automated editing is the norm in Wikidata, unlike in Wikipedias. Thus, it is not well-defined for which purpose automated edits should be made with separated accounts and specifically flagged to the benefit of this project. If someone was able to explain that, and how bot-editing (requiring a bot flag) is conceptually different from automated batch-editing (not requiring a bot flag, per status quo), I would be willing to apply for a bot flag for my alternate account User:MsynBot, hoping that the bureaucrats would grant the flag for a pretty abstract task description like “batch editing to repair constraint violations, in various one-time jobs picked up by opportunity”. It would complicate my workflow a bit, and slightly increase the risk that mistakes might not be seen as quickly, but if I understand how this helps Wikidata I would do it. —MisterSynergy (talk) 17:16, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

I don't consider Wikidata:Bots unclear. It's clearly based on previous versions from other projects. "Contributors must create a separate account in order to operate a bot." (MUST). PAWS is a web based wrapper around Pywikibot. That's clearly a robot. If you don't agree with the robot policy, try to get it changed, but don't come with petty excuses. Multichill (talk) 10:02, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Продолжение вандализма[edit]

@Ymblanter: продолжение вандализма. Kalendar (talk) 19:36, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

@Ymblanter: продолжение вандализма: 2, 3, 4. Kalendar (talk) 19:45, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Прошу прощения, с той скоростью интернета, которая у меня будет до вечера воскресенья, я эти ссылки даже загрузить не могу. Попросите, пожалуйста, другого администратора.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:19, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
@Putnik: выручайте. Kalendar (talk) 06:06, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
@Kalendar: Заблокировал один из диапазонов (Йоту) на неделю, в другом пока продолжения нет. —putnik 07:21, 16 July 2018 (UTC)


@Daniel Mietchen: Research Bot is creating a lot of duplicated items. I don't know whether it currently need administrator action.--GZWDer (talk) 19:44, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

The duplicate creation still continue: e.g. Translational toxicology and exposomics for food safety risk management. (Q55554329) and no label (Q55554331).--GZWDer (talk) 09:18, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
I blocked Research Bot (talkcontribslogs) for now. Daniel Mietchen could you have a look on it? Pamputt (talk) 17:35, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
  • This finds some 450. Not sure if they are all from the bot.
    --- Jura 18:25, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Thanks for checking. Should be fixed now, and I am running a merge batch on those 450. Would be good if you could unblock before the hackathon. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 01:01, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
@GZWDer, Pamputt, Jura1: The batch is through now, and the query yields zero results. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 04:30, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
I was running several different batches simultaneously (at least that was the intention) but when re-specifying how they should run (which was necessary because the machine I am using for this had been restarted by someone else), I mistakenly called the same script twice. Fatameh checks for duplicates, but it uses SPARQL to do so, and if there is a lag, then this results in duplicate entries. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 06:04, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
  • I see. BTW, could you remove the trailing "." in labels and titles? I think a bot was approved to fix them afterwards, but it would be better if it wasn't added in the first place.
    --- Jura 06:08, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Request for page protection[edit]

Please semi-protect Neymar (Q142794) for a few years; regular vandalism. Thanks, Jc86035 (talk) 06:40, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done for 1 year Pamputt (talk) 07:13, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Closing a property deletion request[edit]

Could an admin please close my property deletion request, Wikidata:Properties for deletion#Property:P1103, as "no consensus"? It's been more than 15 months and somehow there is no process for closing a stale discussion. Thanks, Jc86035 (talk) 06:58, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done Pamputt (talk) 07:33, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Please, help[edit]

User Jura1 (talkcontribslogs) deletes links to disambiguations, claming that they are not relevant. But they are talking about same things. For example, w:ru:Бингер and w:en:Binger - they all are listing people with surname 'Binger'. I don't understand what does he do. And he does it like in a bot regime. --VAP+VYK (talk) 18:32, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Please, watch your tone and assume good faith. Matěj Suchánek (talk) 18:52, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
Excuse me, what do you mean speaking about faith? I see that the user does edits deleting links to the relevant pages. This is not question of faith, this is a fact what we can observe. I didn't say that he wilfully do vandalism or something else. I just said about results of his activity, and that's all. --VAP+VYK (talk) 19:03, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
At least, this reaction could be spared. Anyway, I don't think a measure needs to be taken. Other administrators may have different opinion, though. Matěj Suchánek (talk) 19:12, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
Activity of the user, who do thousands edits in a minute, deleting relevant links, isn't interesting for you? --VAP+VYK (talk) 19:21, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
A link that only lists people with a given surname, and nothing else that has the exact same name, goes on the surname item and not on the disambiguation item, something about which Jura did inform you on your talk page. As such I must concur with Matěj here in that little needs to be done here. There are lots of users doing many edits in a minute (to say 'thousands [of] edits in a minute' is an exaggeration) and we can quickly identify problematic edit batches and take action to warn their creators. The edits Jura has been making do not at all seem problematic. Also @Ymblanter, Putnik: if your concerns can be resolved more calmly in Russian. Mahir256 (talk) 19:44, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict) No. If there was a severe problem, I would act. But now I can't see it. I understand it bothers you (just like it would bother me) but in my opinion it's justified. Matěj Suchánek (talk) 19:46, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
My apologies, I am travelling and have a very bad internet, I would be unlikely to help within a week. Sorry for that.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:16, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
These items are mix up with disambiguation and surname and should be split.--GZWDer (talk) 21:21, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

IP deletions[edit]

User has been deleting content repeatedly today. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:52, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey: Blocked for three days for what is effectively edit warring. If anything else needs to be done with the Turk, let me know. Mahir256 (talk) 22:58, 15 July 2018 (UTC)


Please block this flood account until it's clear what we want to do (Wikidata:Project_chat#Another_cebwiki_flood?). There doesn't seem to have been a bot request for it's activity (see [[User:GZWDer_(flood)).
--- Jura 08:43, 16 July 2018 (UTC)