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‐‐1997kB (talk) 17:02, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Adding institutional Twitter accounts[edit]

First, I just wanted to say thanks for adding a bunch of new Twitter account information and cleaning out some clearly incorrect ones. What script/method are you using to extract Twitter handles from web pages? When I tried something similar in the past with the Name Suggestion Index (Q62108705) I ran into cases where multiple accounts would be linked from the same page; did you come up with a good way of dealing with that? —Vahurzpu (talk) 01:58, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

@Vahurzpu: I've been using a few different methods. Most of which I've been hand auditing for "sanity". There are often multiple legit matches per item and sometimes there are very ambiguous matches where reasonable people would disagree (e.g. where do you put a twitter account "run" by an executive but is named for a building like "the kremlin" which represents an office). One method I've been using is stealing data from google's knowledge base with a browser extension I wrote. I've been manually reviewing about 10% of the matches imported in that way and the quality is pretty good but not perfect. Another way I've been importing twitter handles has been by fetching item's official websites and scraping for twitter links on the page (using a custom python script). Those are very noisy and I've been hand auditing basically 100% of those and even then I'm not perfect. Also, if a page includes multiple twitter handles I've been discarding all of them. I've also been doing purely manual data-entry for some items. I am only automatically adding twitter accounts to items that currently have no twitter associated. I'm very pessimistic that any kind of auto-name-matching system will reliably work without human review. BrokenSegue (talk) 02:36, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
Okay, thanks; that's a similar method to what I had been using in the past. —Vahurzpu (talk) 02:39, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Multiple knowledge panels for a single thing?[edit]

Hi there. Any advice on how to handle referencing when a thing has two entities in the Google Knowledge Graph, that is it has gid's/mid's? This is the case with Ken Klippenstein right now - see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q97940221 and how I tried to make sense of situation. Thank you! QRep2020 (talk) 17:29, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

@QRep2020: I'm unsure of this particular case but it's totally possible for one entity to have two google KG ids (or freebase). It just means google screwed up and assigned the same entity an ID twice (or we disagree about what an "entity" is). Just include both of them. BrokenSegue (talk) 17:53, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
Ok cool that's what I did. And the "!" exception that pops up when they're two listedres, ignore that? QRep2020 (talk) 18:54, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
@QRep2020: yeah I ignore those all the time. If you want you can designate one id as preferred and it'll go away. BrokenSegue (talk) 18:55, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Works versus editions[edit]

Hi BrokenSegue,

Please take care only to add book edition properties to instances of version, edition, or translation (Q3331189), or to items that (appropriately) have the edition or translation of (P629) property. An edition-specific property is not intended for a literary work (Q7725634). —Ringbang (talk) 18:10, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Revert[edit]

Hi, Please see Property talk:P2002 for the motivation of my edit which you reverted. Thanks! − Pintoch (talk) 22:05, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

P8687 as statement[edit]

Please see Wikidata:Project chat#BorkedBot non-valid additions. --5.43.83.177 23:57, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Find items of a wikipedia category[edit]

Hello. Can you explain me how? The category is w:Category:England football manager history navigational boxes. Data Gamer play 14:19, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

@Data Gamer: See this link. Petscan can be tricky to learn but it's powerful once you have done so. BrokenSegue (talk) 14:25, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks!! Data Gamer play 15:56, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Fandom wiki ID (P4073)[edit]

Could you get your bot to work on Fandom wiki ID (P4073)? The API is here --Trade (talk) 13:04, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

@Trade: to populate language and named as? BrokenSegue (talk) 13:15, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
Yeah --Trade (talk) 13:17, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

How did it go? --Trade (talk) 15:08, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

@Trade: I am still waiting on approval Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/BorkedBot_4. Approval takes forever here. BrokenSegue (talk) 15:28, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
sounds great. Named as values could also be used to populate aliases for the language of the wiki --Shisma (talk) 17:33, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Wwwyzzerdd?[edit]

Hi!

I noticed lots of good data added with “import via Wwwyzzerdd for Wikidata”. What’s that? :)

Jean-Fred (talk) 08:36, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Jean-Frédéric: it's a browser extension I'm developing that lets you edit wikidata items directly from a corresponding wikipedia page. It's not quite ready from prime time yet and has a lot of rough edges. I'll share it publicly once it's more beta than alpha-software. BrokenSegue (talk) 14:16, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the answer! Good luck with the development. Jean-Fred (talk) 16:34, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Hello, any update on this? Thanks! AntisocialRyan (talk) 00:40, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
@AntisocialRyan: Hey thanks for the interest. It is in the google chrome store but life has been busy I haven't had the time I expected to iron out a few of the last bugs/quirks. You can try it out here but the FF release isn't ready. If you do use it and have feedback feel free to drop it here or on github. BrokenSegue (talk) 02:06, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
Thank you very much! I will play around with it! AntisocialRyan (talk) 03:32, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thank you for your work today 🙇‍♂️

If you hadn't noticed and reverted all those changes, I probably would've had a heart attack when I woke up this morning and realized what happened :P

Best, Nicereddy (talk) 13:40, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

[WMF Board of Trustees - Call for feedback: Community Board seats] Meetings with the Wikidata community[edit]

The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees is organizing a call for feedback about community selection processes between February 1 and March 14. While the Wikimedia Foundation and the movement have grown about five times in the past ten years, the Board’s structure and processes have remained basically the same. As the Board is designed today, we have a problem of capacity, performance, and lack of representation of the movement’s diversity. Our current processes to select individual volunteer and affiliate seats have some limitations. Direct elections tend to favor candidates from the leading language communities, regardless of how relevant their skills and experience might be in serving as a Board member, or contributing to the ability of the Board to perform its specific responsibilities. It is also a fact that the current processes have favored volunteers from North America and Western Europe. In the upcoming months, we need to renew three community seats and appoint three more community members in the new seats. This call for feedback is to see what processes can we all collaboratively design to promote and choose candidates that represent our movement and are prepared with the experience, skills, and insight to perform as trustees?

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Also, please share this with other volunteers who might be interested in this. Let me know if you have any questions. KCVelaga (WMF), 14:32, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Nominating Q93472084 for Deletion. Not notable[edit]

Q93472084 is a retail outlet with no wikicommons links. Nothing in wikipedian or elsewhere required to be notable. --Dprophitjr (talk) 23:02, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

May need to do a bit more undoing[edit]

It looks like some of the operating system edits weren't undone fully (see Quake II: Ground Zero (Q2429827) for example), I just fixed another I saw earlier as well. Do you have a way to undo them still? Nicereddy (talk) 04:15, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

I intentionally didn't undo the addition of the OS claims (just removal of platform). But you can revert those by going to https://editgroups.toolforge.org/b/QSv2/4923 and clicking undo. BrokenSegue (talk) 14:09, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Did you only undo the edits for those marked as video games? It looks like expansion packs were missed, for example Neverwinter Nights: Shadows of Undrentide (Q305212). Nicereddy (talk) 02:42, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
@Nicereddy: No I think I just missed some batches somehow. I didn't filter on anything. Thanks for catching these. BrokenSegue (talk) 02:44, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Would appreciate backup on Property proposals[edit]

I'm getting a bunch of pushback (only from Jura) on daring to ... mark property proposals that are lacking consensus as such. Since I did so based on your comment, I'd be grateful for some backup and support. Or if you didn't intend me to actually do that, clarification. JesseW (talk) 14:33, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Q105725387[edit]

Hi! seismic classification (Q105725387) isn't just about Italy. It could be any kind of seismic classification. Maybe I could create an Italian seismic classification item with that parameters and add it in the instance of (P31) property of the items I've created.--Ferdi2005[Mail] 06:30, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

@Ferdi2005: Ah ok, I was unaware. There other seismic classifications? Yeah I think there should be one item as a superclass for all the italian classification items then. BrokenSegue (talk)

What tool are you using?[edit]

I see a lot of "scraped data from google" in your edit log. I'm curious, is the code available somewhere?--So9q (talk) 04:51, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

@So9q: yes it is a tool I wrote/announced a while back. See https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/wiki-slurpee/fkgnbcdfnibcnbgloagfdgdfncccilnc It isn't totally bulletproof but it's convenient for some kinds of actions. Source is available on github. BrokenSegue (talk) 14:02, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Fest i hela huset[edit]

Hello. Why you think so? It's credited. Eurohunter (talk) 18:09, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

@Eurohunter: it's literally not possible for a tv season to be a performer. performers must be able to perform. a tv season is inanimate. maybe you mean to use samples from work (P5707)? BrokenSegue (talk) 18:12, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
No it was made with participants and it's just credited as BigBrother. Eurohunter (talk) 18:15, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
ok. BrokenSegue (talk) 20:57, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Bot[edit]

Hello. Why is bot adding point in time (P585) to Twitter username (P2002)? What does it mean? Eurohunter (talk) 05:23, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

@Eurohunter: it's the point in time those qualifiers apply to that username (i.e. when the data was fetched). BrokenSegue (talk) 05:51, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
But it not says it. It's missleading and should use something other or maybe some new item may be created. Eurohunter (talk) 07:44, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
@Eurohunter: I'm sorry I don't understand you. What do you mean "But it not says it."? How could it be more clear? Do you mean property not item? There is a fundamental limitation of wikibase that we cannot have qualifiers on qualifiers so this is the best we can do. This bot has been operating this way for many months without complaint. BrokenSegue (talk) 15:55, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
I mean it is only "date". It should be somehow secribed what is this data. I had same request with similar bot edits. I will look at it. Eurohunter (talk) 19:17, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello. So we could have new item for it. Something like "data of number of viewers/listeners" due to number of viewers/listeners (P5436)? Eurohunter (talk) 13:21, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
well we already have social media followers (P8687) which is being populated. what property do you have in mind? maybe do a test edit as an example? BrokenSegue (talk) 14:52, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

BorkedBot "unknown value" statements[edit]

I think BorkedBot is malfunctioning. It is adding "unknown value" qualifiers for Twitter user numeric ID (P6552) and end time (P582) for Twitter username (P2002) statements which have readily extractable Twitter user numeric ID (P6552) values. Dancter (talk) 00:44, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

thank you for notifying me. yes something seems wrong. i'll kill it and investigate. BrokenSegue (talk) 00:48, 28 June 2021 (UTC)