Wikidata:Property proposal/appeals to

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‎appeals to[edit]

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Organization

   Done: ‎appeals to (P12452) (Talk and documentation)
Descriptioncourt or other body that hears appeals from subject's decisions
Data typeItem
Template parameter"appeals to" in en:Template:Infobox court
Domaingoverning body (Q895526),
Example 1United States District Court for the Southern District of New York (Q49669)United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit (Q250479)
Example 2New South Wales Court of Appeal (Q7011690)High Court of Australia (Q1358798)
Example 3Voivodes of Masovian Voivodeship (Q60978278)Provincial Administrative Court in Warsaw (Q124293238)
Planned useThis should be added to all items about courts (except courts of final appeal in a given legal system) and probably also to some administrative bodies.
Wikidata projectWikiProject Law (Q8486941)

Motivation[edit]

The need and rationale for such a property was first discussed in January in project chat. If approved, this should probably be followed by an inverse property like "hears appeals from". Powerek38 (talk) 13:39, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

EthanRobertLee Iwan.Aucamp Wallacegromit1 (talk) 08:30, 18 July 2020 (UTC), focus on historical and international law/legislation[reply]
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Notified participants of WikiProject Law

  •  Support Makes sense to me. This is a unique relationship between entities that isn't well described by more general properties. I'll note that the domain is listed as governing body (Q895526), but I would narrow that to tribunal (Q1412224) because if the first decision maker isn't some kind of tribunal, it isn't an "appeal", it's just "taking the organ to court". --Arctic.gnome (talk) 16:40, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Arctic.gnome: Thank you for your support and comment. I can see your point, but I would rename the property rather than limit its scope. I mean, the law usually sets a clear path of legal challenges to a decision of a public body. I tried to show it in Example 3 above. For instance in Poland (I'll use the country with the legal system that is best known to me) we can take the provincial governor to the provincial administrative court on most of their decisions. Not to any court, for example not to civil or crimimal court, but to specific administrative court. I think we should allow this property to be used in such situations as well. Powerek38 (talk) 15:26, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support AFAIK there is no way to do this currently in proper way. PMG (talk) 17:47, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support I am not aware of any better way to model this, we probably really need a new property. Vojtěch Dostál (talk) 18:37, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]