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PI Bot[edit]

I understand that PI Bot is a WD bot tasked with adding links to existing pages on sister-projects, I think? However I see that most (all?) additions of new pages created on the English Wikiquote, and even on the English Wikipedia are being done by humans. Can someone please explain in regular English language jargon how this process is supposed to work?

Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 16:47, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User:Pi bot does a lot of things. One thing it does is making new items. It does this for multiple wikis. See for example [1]. There are other bots that do similar things e.g. User:NoclaimsBot. Optimally though new items for articles would be created by the creator of the article and populated with relevant information. An example of this would be [2]. BrokenSegue (talk) 17:31, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It's very hard for a bot to know that the subject is the same. It would be nice to have Duplicity adapted for sister projects. Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 08:52, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Sjoerddebruin Thanks for supplying a link to Duplicity, but I admit you totally lost me. When I click this link it takes me out of WikiData and into tool forge, where I and most other Wikimedians cannot log in, I think? I don't understand what you mean when you say it can be "adapted for sister projects". Could you please elaborate? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 15:45, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Toolforge is where Wikimedians host helpful tools to help with editing Wikimedia projects. You can log in there, see Wikidata:Duplicity for more information. At the moment it only supports Wikipedia, which I'm suggesting that it would be nice to have it support Wikiquote etc. Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 15:48, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Sjoerddebruin, Ottawahitech: There is a new Wikidata Game that feels like a "Duplicity for Wikiquote".
Quote: Pi bot is thinking about creating new items for these pages, but first it wants your help to match them to existing items. --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 11:19, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@BrokenSegue: Thanks for providing the link to User:Pi bot. For a reason I do not understand when I typed this text into the WD searchbox it came back empty handed (still does , for me at least). With the link you provided I can see the contribution history of this BOT.
I am curious about your comment saying it is better to have new items added by the creator of a wikimedia-page. From my simplistic POV it seems that anything that can be done by a BOT is preferable because it frees up humans to do things they are better at or that they enjoy more, while BOTs can do repetitive stuff more consistently than humans, and it is easier to keep an eye on them to make sure they do nt malfunction.
Can anyone elaborate on why humans are better at adding links to existing pages on sister-projects on WD? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 15:36, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Ottawahitech: in a perfect world this task would be done by machines but structuring information in a way that's suitable for wikidata is not yet easy for machines to do. pi bot tries its best but is fairly limited. BrokenSegue (talk) 16:18, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Re:structuring information in a way that's suitable for wikidata is not yet easy for machines to do
@BrokenSegue, I must say this comment gave me pause. As a human who has been attempting (mostly unsuccessfully) to contribute to WikiData since 2014 I find your statement astounding. In my experience trying to figure out this place (WD) is almost impossible for the average human, but since it seems to work so well I had always assumed that most of the information gathered here was the result of the labour of very sophisticated machines (BOTS).
Just wondering if others share my view? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 15:44, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello @Ottawahitech:, in my opinion, one of the most important and difficult tasks is to match new articles, categories, templates, etc. in the 300 project languages to a maybe already existing wikidata object, out of 108 million existing objects, or, if not yet existing, create a new one, while trying to avoid duplicates as far as possible (e.g. by looking up by coordinates or various IDs like VIAF or IMDb, see for example de:Benutzer:M2k~dewiki/FAQ#Wie_finde_ich_ein_bestehendes_Wikidata-Objekt_zu_einem_Artikel?). For example, maybe it is just an object with the same label, but a different meaning, or, two articles have different labels in different languages, but the same meaning. Unconnected articles can be found for example at:
Every language also has a page with unconnected articles, categories, templates, ..., for example:
AutosuggestSitelink: Sample screenshot für de:Luis Giraldo
A tool to help connecting articles is the
Also see
Once a object is created and a articles are connected to the object, the object could be enriched using various bots and tools (e.g. HarvestTemplates, PetScan, QuickStatements, Export-Gadget, ...), for example:
M2k~dewiki (talk) 11:40, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Ottawahitech: some kinds of information is set by bots and is relatively well done. but certain modeling decisions unfortunately remain manual. the topic of converting free-text info into structured data like Wikidata is an active area of research and is definitely not solved. the bots here are fairly basic (pi bot uses manually coded heuristics for the most part). BrokenSegue (talk) 03:09, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Note that Pi bot only creates new items for articles without search matches that haven't been rejected through the Wikidata games: Wikipedia and Wikiquote. Please play the games to help add matches! Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:15, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Clone/copy a Q?[edit]

When entering a handful of species, all in the same genus, it would be helpful to grab an existing entry, clone it, and then edit the parts that differ. Is there a way to do that? Or grab a more Wikipedia-like blank page with a template that can be copy-pasted and updated. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:11, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There's a tool at User:Magnus Manske/duplicate item.js that does item cloning, but it should be used with great caution as it's easy to leave wrong fields, and then you get conflated identity. Bovlb (talk) 17:33, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You might be better off starting with Help:QuickStatements. Bovlb (talk) 17:34, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Isn't QS significantly more work than simply removing/changing the wrong fields after cloning? Trade (talk) 21:54, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It depends. If the OP wants to fill in parts of a template, and has some ability to use a programming language, then QS might be the answer. For example, QS might let them be far more thorough in adding sources. Bovlb (talk) 21:58, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Also, I'm not a big fan of making incorrect claims that you plan to fix later. That essentially what clone-and-change does. Bovlb (talk) 02:58, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'll take a look at both tools. I am a software developer, so QS might be better for me, but my needs change depending on what I'm working on. I mostly work on taxonomic items, and some sets of changes are done in groups. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:40, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

update items under : Wikidata:Requests for comment/semi-protection to prevent vandalism on most used Items[edit]

I would like to update some items under the semi-protection on most used Items: namely I would like to add the values for the property Influenced by (P737). I opened discussions for those items under semi-protection but I was wondering how the procedure looks like in that case. Indeed I am doing a research on Influence and updating the Wikidata pages directly is more efficient rather than store this information I find locally! Plus I would like to add a reference link to some Influence by values already present, since I am doing it for my work it would be worth to be shared online! Traopia (talk) 16:08, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

We can grant your account a right to overcome the protections if you wish. --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 11:21, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
that would be awesome! Traopia (talk) 15:41, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
✓ Done --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 09:40, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Several items that may be the same place[edit]

Port-Launay (Q49464915), Port-Launay (Q221280), Q49361985. At the very least the distinctions are unclear. There seem to be similar issues for quite a few places in Finistère. - Jmabel (talk) 22:36, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • ceb:Port-Launay (munisipyo) (Q49464915) and ceb:Port-Launay (Q221280) are the administrative division; ceb:Port-Launay (lungsod) (Q49361985) is a populated place (one of two in the commune; the other is the hamlet of Lanvaïdic[3], which has no Wikidata item although it is the location of a chapel Q22996362). Q221280#P31 only says commune (administrative division) but Q221280#P1566 and Q221280#P6766 are only for the populated place. The disambiguated articles were created by a bot (one as a duplicate of an existing page) and it's unlikely separate items would have been created otherwise, so there would probably be no objection to merging or redirecting them. However, Wikidata is not able to ban the creation of separate administrative division and populated place pages in other Wikimedia projects, merging is not always possible, and it would be misleading to say they are duplicates - we probably need a better way to handle items such as these, using a property such as facet of (P1269) or partially coincident with (P1382) (with a qualifier) or something similar. Peter James (talk) 15:56, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

List of codes of languages[edit]

Is there a full list of codes of languages and their WD codes? Eurohunter (talk) 18:00, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Do you need any more code than whats infront of wikipedia.org (so en for english, de for german, etc.) --D-Kuru (talk) 00:06, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Languages supported by Wikidata can be retrieved from API: [4]. --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 09:46, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You could query Wikidata for a list of the mediawiki language codes, but the most up-to-date version can be gotten from the software itself - https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=query&format=json&meta=languageinfo&formatversion=2&liprop=code%7Cname%7Cautonym . These are different from the ISO 639 codes. Infrastruktur (talk) 09:46, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't think it's complete but there is quite a long list available here: Meta: Names of Wikimedia languages. Danny Benjafield (WMDE) (talk) 12:35, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Request for Account Deletion - Mohsen Khajeh 1995[edit]

I am writing to request the deletion of my Wikimedia account with the username "Mohsen Khajeh 1995. Mohsen Khajeh 1995 (talk) 22:57, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

see en:Wikipedia:Username_policy#Deleting_and_merging_accounts Estopedist1 (talk) 08:04, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
How to rename the account name? Mohsen Khajeh 1995 (talk) 10:14, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
File a request at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Username_changes Infrastruktur (talk) 10:20, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Can i at least delete those photos i have uploaded here? Mohsen Khajeh 1995 (talk) 11:00, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The photos have been deleted as "unused private fotos". See the discussion you started at commons. C.Suthorn (talk) 11:07, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That's great but why can I still see those photos? Mohsen Khajeh 1995 (talk) 11:08, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Maybe because you didn't clear your browser's cache. Jonathan Groß (talk) 12:21, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Check it out; https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=mohsen+khajeh&title=Special:MediaSearch&go=Go&type=image 2001:2042:2E1E:4D00:51CE:9D47:5867:4363 15:00, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If you open the link then it will show my images: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=mohsen+khajeh&title=Special:MediaSearch&go=Go&type=image Mohsen Khajeh 1995 (talk) 15:03, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Not with me. --Lymantria (talk) 15:17, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Duration span[edit]

I want to add a duration span with duration (P2047) (eg. 10 - 20 seconds). Is that possible in one line. I saw that some items use eg. X±Y, but 10±10 seems are bad as 15±5 would be. For me this gives an incorrect impression of the duration and target time. Do you may have any ideas? --D-Kuru (talk) 00:02, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

i'm not sure i understand what you are trying to say. are you trying to indicate that the duration of something is unknown and may be up to 20 and as little as 10? or something else? BrokenSegue (talk) 03:10, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The item should display that the duration (of eg. a step in processing a certain object) is at least 10 but a maximum of 20 seconds long. The desirered display would be "10 - 20 seconds" for the given example. --D-Kuru (talk) 03:24, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Afaik, there is no way to create spans in a single line (gods I wish there were). The best method would be to use duration (P2047) 10 nature of statement (P5102)minimum (Q10585806) 20 nature of statement (P5102)maximum (Q111305333) Huntster (t @ c) 13:45, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
isn't this literally what 15±5 expresses? BrokenSegue (talk) 14:34, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, but OP expressed a distaste for ± expressions. I also agree with them that it gives an incorrect impression, however technically accurate it might be. Huntster (t @ c) 15:37, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, if you just look at the time span itself you are technically right. But to me there is a difference between 15±5 seconds and 10-20 seconds. From my point of view the first one expresses that 15 seconds is that target, but ±5 seconds is OK (but not on the right on the 'target' of 15 seconds). The second one says that everything between 10 and 20 seconds is within the norm - so the target span really is 10 seconds long. But again: This is my own opinion. --D-Kuru (talk) 19:44, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Guidance on membership data maintenance[edit]

My Canadian colleagues and I have been uploading performing arts associations' members datasets to Wikidata for the last two years. We uploaded 7 such datasets (and soon an 8th dataset) and have been maintaining this data since. Over the course of this work, questions arose on how best to populate member of (P463) statements that are accurate and meaningful at the time of the initial upload and remain so over time. We discussed these questions with the WikiProject Performing arts (Q59956276) community and we arrived at a consensus on a set of good practices for documenting membership statuses in Wikidata. While this guidance was developed for performing arts use cases, we realize it could be useful in other domains as well. Publishing it within the WikiProject Performing arts (Q59956276) consequently doesn't make sense. We should publish it somewhere where the broader Wikidata community will be more likely to search for and find such information.

 Question

  1. Where do you recommend we publish this guidance?
    1. Wikidata talk:WikiProject Organizations?
    2. Another Wikiproject?
    3. "member of" discussion page?
    4. A combination of the above?
  2. Does this proposed set of good practices make sense? Do you have further input to provide? If so, please add comments or suggested edits to the Google doc.

Sincer thanks for your input! Fjjulien (talk) 16:10, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Note: There is a qualifier property proposal related to this guidance: Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic#latest end date. Fjjulien (talk) 16:12, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Adding this guidance to the "member of" discussion page would definitely be helpful for Wikimedians seeking extra guidance about using the property. As for the WikiProjects, it doesn't look like Organizations has a Data Structure section per se. However, the guidance could be added to the Discussion page, if members of that WikiProject would find it useful. Dlh28 (talk) 19:30, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Entity under construction[edit]

Is there any good reason why building or structure under construction (Q12377751) is confined to buildings or structures? It would be useful for (for example) Meerut Metro (Q28170016) (much more appropriate than the current proposed entity (Q64728694)) but that would be a constraint violation, and I see no acceptable substitute. - Jmabel (talk) 17:52, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

For stuff that is already in construction I would use state of use (P5817), proposed entity (Q64728694) can also contain proposals that have never been materialised. Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 18:00, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
agree, it would be useful if it were broad enough to apply to ships and Starlink too. Vicarage (talk) 18:02, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Perhaps a new item called "entity under construction" could be created for these wider uses? building or structure under construction (Q12377751) would then have it as a subclass. Huntster (t @ c) 19:12, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Indeed, it would need work on the under construction (Q59925870) website message to ensure it was used correctly. construction (Q3875186) talks about building/infrastructure, I guess we could have a sister term 'under assembly' based on assembly (Q3625549) for other manufactured objects, all under an 'under development' umbrella to cover software, films etc. I'd have a 2 level structure, not 3. Vicarage (talk) 06:51, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Who said that this items is only about buildings and structures?
If we look at its "What links here", the first 10 links are:
Michgrig (talk) 20:39, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Most of those have it used as a qualifier, where the constraint is not triggered. Vicarage (talk) 22:04, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That's just 10 random links. I personally use state of use (P5817) = building or structure under construction (Q12377751) in items about prospective stations of Moscow Metro (for example, Novatorskaya (Q23670655)).
By the way, using building or structure under construction (Q12377751) as a value for instance of (P31) like at Fehmarn Belt fixed link (Q18541) is extremely strange. Michgrig (talk) 19:46, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'd have thought a tunnel being dug (or assembled as here) is a structure under construction. Vicarage (talk) 20:18, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #617[edit]

[Significant Change Announcement] Upcoming Changes to Wikibase API Modules: Addition of New Parameters[edit]

Hello everyone,

This is a significant change announcement relevant for some Wikibase API users.

What's Changing?

Over the coming weeks, most Wikibase API modules will gain three new parameters: returnto, returntoquery, and returntoanchor. Additionally, these API modules may return tempusercreated and tempuserredirect fields in their responses. These parameters are being added to support user interaction flows related to IP Masking.

Who’s Affected?

Only users who use the API to make anonymous edits are affected. If you don’t use the API to make edits, or if you only make authenticated edits, you can safely ignore these changes, and disregard the additional API parameters and response data.

What You Need to Do

If you use the API to make anonymous edits, the response may contain a tempusercreated string indicating the name of the temporary account that was created, and a tempuserredirect nullable string. If the tempuserredirect is not null, you should redirect the user to that URL to complete the setup for the temporary account. Afterwards, the user will automatically be returned to the current wiki; you can use the returnto, returntoquery, and/or returntoanchor parameters in your original API request to control the title, query, and anchor where the redirect returns to.

If you have any questions or concerns about this change, please don’t hesitate to reach out to us in this ticket (phab:T357024).

Cheers, -Mohammed Abdulai (WMDE) (talk) 15:59, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Responding to hostility to Cite Q?[edit]

ʽUser:GraemeLeggettʼ recently replaced a ̺cite Q|,,,ˌ with a detailed ̺citation ...ˌ. I asked why. ʽUser:GraemeLeggettʼ repliedː

ːI've found editing wikidata particularly clumsy and undocumented. And if wikidata is wrong or incomplete, then that's wikidata's problem, while I know how to fix it in Enwiki. And use of citeQ is not editor friendly.

See ʽWikipediaːTalk:United States Strategic Bombing Survey#Cite Qʼː

WikipediaːTalk:United_States_Strategic_Bombing_Survey#Cite_Q.

Comments? Thanks, ̴̴ DavidMCEddy (talk) 19:45, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ːp.s. Why doesn't Wikidata honor the standard MediaWiki protocols? Why do I have to use a URL link to get a link to "WikipediaːTalk:United_States_Strategic_Bombing_Survey#Cite_Q"? ̴̴

What do you mean by "Wikidata doesn't honor the standard MediaWiki protocols"? You could type
[[:en:Talk:United States Strategic Bombing Survey#Cite Q]] and get the link to the page you are referring to. Michgrig (talk) 20:44, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You meanː en:Talk:United States Strategic Bombing Survey#Cite Q?
How can I type that? When I try to type what I just copied and pasted from what you typed, I got ʽːenːTalkːUnited States Strategic Bombing Survey#Cite Qʼ ... NOT the same thingː I can type "[", but when I try to type a double square bracket, it gets converted into something else, and I do NOT get the desired link.
Also, how can I type a colon and get an indent? When I type a colon, it gets converted into something else. I can get an indent by copying what you typed, but I do not know how to enter that myself nor how to get a double indent.
When I type a single curly bracket character, it gets converted into something I do not recognize.
In the above, when I wanted a link to a page on Wikipedia, I had to proved the URL within a single square bracket. I see from your example that to link to the English-language Wikipedia, I need [ [ːenːWikipedia] ] (without the blank spaces, which I have so far been unable to enter except by copying what you typed). What if I want Wikiversity or Wikiquote?
As ʽUser:GraemeLeggettʼ wrote on that other page, "editing wikidata [is] particularly clumsy and undocumented" in this regard. I cannot even type a tilde character 4 times and have that appear as I type it. It's no wonder that people like ʽUser:GraemeLeggettʼ are hostile to Wikidata and deleted my link to "cite Q".
Thanks for your reply. ̴̴  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by DavidMCEddy (talk • contribs) at 21:50‎, 19 February 2024 (UTC).Reply[reply]
I suspect you're hitting "reply" and then having trouble with Discussion Tools. This is not specific to Wikidata, but the feature may be disabled on some projects. It doesn't solve all problems, but you may want to ensure you're in "Source" mode, not "Visual". Bovlb (talk) 01:48, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Try Special:Preferences → More language settings → Input → Disable input tools. --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 08:39, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks. That seems to have fixed my problems with input. I will ask User:GraemeLeggett if that helps them. DavidMCEddy (talk) 09:05, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Min and max values for properties like size or mass[edit]

one example of an hypothetical confidence intervals

Can these already be entered somehow? If not, could you please make this possible?

If this is not the right place to ask about or request this, please link where to ask.

Could you add ways to add things like (healthy-/common-/conventional-/standard-/…)minimum and maximum and/or confidence interval 95% value and/or things like that?

As an example and what got me wondering about this is this study which reported the mass of the reportedly likely heaviest animal that ever lived on Earth: Q121095909 (Perucetus colossus). I entered the min and max values they calculated in the study as two separate values in property "mass" but that is not how it should be and was not changed by now nor did I find another way to enter these values.

Moreover, items like Q5 (human) probably should have some structured info on height and mass which could have different types of sourced values such as the 95% CI (with min and max or ±) at some point in time. Humans aren't 20 meters tall and I wondered about this when generative AI often messed up the body sizes of animals. Prototyperspective (talk) 11:49, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Interesting topic. The built in quantity type takes an uncertainty interval (example: Q52353), but there are some problems with that, first off while the data model allows the +/- to be unevenly distributed, the user interface won't let you input uneven uncertainty intervals. The other issue is what this interval represents. Some digging revealed there is a uncertainty corresponds to (P2571) qualifier that can be used to specify whether the interval is a standard deviation or a two sigma interval. This should be good enough to input normal distributions at least. There are also upper limit (P5448) and lower limit (P5447), presumably those solve the issue of uneven uncertainty intervals. Infrastruktur (talk) 13:37, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Issue - Desynching[edit]

Hello. Working on simple wiki we have under 100 items that are desynched on taxonbars. En has over 3k. I’m trying to figure out how to fix this. One example is Q30766361 and if you look at both simple and en we have the same errors. We have a lot of articles I need to put a taxonbar on, but I’d like to know how to remedy this situation so I can fix it as it comes up. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 16:31, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

For some pages that haven't been edited on simplewiki, it seems the ParserCache stopped updating around 21 December 2023 for some odd reason. I guess report to Phabricator so they can figure it out? Infrastruktur (talk) 18:12, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Infrastruktur Do you know what task # or should I make a new task? If so, what project? Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 08:44, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You may get better feedback at Wikidata:Report a technical problem. Bovlb (talk) 17:19, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question about drag queens[edit]

Hi, this is perhaps a silly question. But, I'm editing an item about a drag-queen (Q107452713) and I don't know what to fill in the field "sex or gender". Does someone know how to properly fill it? Thanks. Kacamata (talk) 17:27, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Performing as a drag queen doesn't necessarily change your gender, it's mostly an alter ego (Q201662). Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 17:49, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Sjoerddebruin Thanks for the answer. I understand that, so the gender is male? I'm asking because I never edited an item about a drag-queen. Kacamata (talk) 18:07, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Kacamata It depends. If they are male and performing, then they are male. There are females that dress as drag queens (vs. drag kings). The sex will always be the same but make sure you know for sure as some will be transgendered. So try to find out who the real person is behind them so you don’t cause any violations of BLPs for the articles that import Qs. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 08:48, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@PotsdamLamb That's the problem. They are a male who dress as a drag queen. Honestly, based on the article in the pt.Wp they are not transgender, but they are always in character, so I don't even know who is the real person. Kacamata (talk) 15:53, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
if we don't know or unsure we can omit making a claim or clarify with sourcing circumstances (P1480). generally we don't require references for gender because it is "obvious" but for trans/GNC people it sometimes requires it BrokenSegue (talk) 15:57, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@BrokenSegue Thanks for the answer. I just removed the claim for gender. Better to omit, until we got any reliable source. Again, thank all for the input. Kacamata (talk) 16:04, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Kacamata The gender can be anything. But like the answer below says with no confirmation then don’t put anything. They are not all male. A majority are but not all. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 16:08, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@PotsdamLamb Yes, that's what I did. Thanks again. Kacamata (talk) 16:10, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Project or group for adding project links[edit]

I am quite active in adding project links (mostly to Wikipedia) and would be interested in communicating with others doing the same. Is there some kind of WikiProject or similar for this? If not, is there interest in creating it? - Andre Engels (talk) 07:44, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Andre Engels Can you be more specific as to what type of project? Wikidata is a whole project and has different projects going on as well. This project is dedicated to making sure the information is correct and everything is available and as accurate as possible, as not just Wikipedia’s pull information from it, but other entities world wide as well. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 08:50, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
What I'm thinking of is a project page within Wikidata for people who work on adding Wikipedia (and other project) links to items, or create Wikidata items for Wikipedia pages that do not have a corresponding item yet.- Andre Engels (talk) 22:48, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello @Andre Engels: also see Wikidata:Project_chat#PI_Bot above. M2k~dewiki (talk) 23:41, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
A collection of questions that came up around this issue during severals years and links to discussions over the years can be found at de:Benutzer:M2k~dewiki/FAQ (in german language, you might use google translate). For example:
M2k~dewiki (talk) 23:57, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Pan-European Forum of Confraternities . English Translation[edit]

Good evening {{https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foro_Paneuropeo_de_Hermandades_y_Cofrad%C3%ADas}} English and Italian pages also needed. Very important (the Forum will take place on April 27-28, 2024) I created the following draft translation [[5]] Support very appreciated Grateful regards MLEKUSCH (talk) 19:31, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Null edits[edit]

Is it possible to make a null edit on Wikidata? How? Kk.urban (talk) 04:50, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What problem are you trying to fix? Data showing up incorrectly in the query graph or data showing up incorrectly on a connected wiki? In the latter case you should be able to solve the problem by doing a mass-purge of pages on the connected wiki using a script (touch.py) that comes with pywikibot. Nulledits in the traditional sense don't work on Wikibase. But if it turns out you actually need to fix graph issues, let us know. Infrastruktur (talk) 11:25, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Infrastruktur I don't know what a query graph is, but the reason is data showing up incorrectly on a Wikidata page. Kk.urban (talk) 14:58, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I see. A normal purge on a wikidata item will only fix page rendering issues: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q13406268&action=purge . If there is something wrong with the item's data, can you post a link to the item? Infrastruktur (talk) 15:49, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Infrastruktur No, purge is all I needed. I just didn't know how to do it. Kk.urban (talk) 15:51, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

An unexpected effect of Covid-19 on the Wikidata project?[edit]

Here's an interesting statistic - this is an aggregation of blocked people per month. Look at what happened early 2020 which coincides with Covid-19. You can ignore the spike in blocks from when Wikidata first was established because that's expected and normal.

Do you think Covid-19 really affected Wikidata as badly as the graph would suggest? What are your thoughts? Infrastruktur (talk) 19:49, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Infrastruktur: This is certainly very interesting. I wonder if a similar phenomenon occurred across all wmf-wikis. Ottawahitech (talk) 20:05, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Could partially be related to the introduction of CheckUsers at Wikidata. We have those since late April 2020. Additionally, I think we have some more activity on the counter-vandalism front, also from admins who use the tools much more actively than what was common before. —MisterSynergy (talk) 20:44, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
re: introduction of CheckUsers
I did not know that CheckUsers were only introduced to WD recently (when?), @Michgrig. If this is the reason for the increased number of blocked users, that would mean the increase is attributed to users identified as sock-puppets, wouldn't it? Ottawahitech (talk) 16:50, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Idea: we employ Abuse filter more than before, which is capable of blocking users.
Still, interesting finding. 2020-2021 correlate quite well with the pandemic's intensity. But unlike the world, this didn't recover. --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 20:52, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Transcripts of news/tv/etc programs[edit]

I am trying to locate a transcript of a very interesting TV program I watched on The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell recently. I looked at the wikidata item hoping there was a link to a web page where transcripts are stored and came back empty handed. Just wondering if there is a WD Statement (I think I am using the correct WD jargon) for this purpose.

Am I making sense? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 20:12, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You probably already found https://www.msnbc.com/transcripts/show/the-last-word . I'm not aware of an appropriate property. Bovlb (talk) 16:46, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Bovlb, thanks so much for locating the link, and correcting my use of the WD jargon.
I still believe there should be a property linking transcipts for the program with appropriate items such as The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell (Q7746206) . How would one make a proposal for a new property? Or is there another way for including this type of information?
Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 17:14, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
you might want to look at Wikidata:Property proposal BrokenSegue (talk) 18:32, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Can someone better disambiguate these two[edit]

grandiose delusions (Q4798003) and grandiose delusions (Q987664) RAN (talk) 18:49, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]