User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )

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Best regards! Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 05:26, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Project chat page[edit]

Hi Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ),

The project chat page is at Wikidata:Project_chat. Might work better than Wikidata_talk:Project_chat. --- Jura 19:24, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Mabel Boll[edit]

Hi,
I wanted to know if you have references about the informations you added on Q6721414 ? We can see that your birth date is different from the one on the VIAF site, and I also think that you must have strong sources to support that someone have suffer of mental illness.
If these properties can't be sourced, I'll suppress them. Simon Villeneuve (talk) 12:54, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

She died as a patient in a mental institution. If you took the time to read her Wikipedia entry you would see from the New York Times: "died Sunday of a stroke in Manhattan State Hospital for the mentally ill on Wards Island." Are you assuming that she was a visitor or maybe an employee? Her birth date comes from her passport application of 20 January 1920. This is probably the 50th incorrect VIAF or obituary date I have corrected based on a primary document. Most errors are incorrectly back calculated by subtracting the perceived age from the year of death and are off by a year. Sometimes women shave a year or two off of their age to appear younger, or sometimes men pad on a few years to be older to serve in the military. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 17:06, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi again,
I putted the source for the place of death. I still think that a mental illness is a kind of thing we must source correctly before putting it on a element.
About the passport, I don't know what you are talking about. Do you have a link ? The World Library is saying too that she's born in 1995 : http://www.worldlibrary.org/articles/mabel_boll . Simon Villeneuve (talk) 19:27, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
That is a Wikipedia fork, always read the bottom of the page. It should be pretty obvious in that it has the same infobox and the same headers as the Wikipedia article. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 19:41, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Ok, but you know that we can't source the date of birth with something like « comes from her passport application of 20 January 1920 » without any link. I just want to believe you man, please help me a little bit. Simon Villeneuve (talk) 20:51, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Family search[edit]

I saw your note at wiki data project chat, suggesting signing up with family search. I just did so. My goal was to find out birthdates. Perhaps you can point me in the right direction.

For example consider: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhonda_Rompola

Who has a birth year of 1960 which is referenced.

I see that the wiki data entry

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7321380

List a birthdate of 9 March 1960, but it doesn't say where it came from. I thought I would try the family search site to see if it would help.

I tried entering her name after clicking on "find", but that didn't seem to help. I'm sure she has a passport; will the find option search on the passport records or is there some other way to do so?--Sphilbrick (talk) 21:21, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

  • Familysearch works best for people born before 1920, you can get their birth from the WWI and WWII draft registration. It is also good for people who died after 1970 because of the Social Security Death Index. Living people is harder, Ancestry.com has tax records, but that is a paid subscription. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 21:41, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Texas Marriage Index[edit]

The Texas Marriage Index has her two marriages:

  • Rhonda L Rompola

Female 9 Sep 1989 Dallas Steven S Haddock

  • Rhonda L Rompola

Female 2 Jun 2007 Dallas David M Dement

Your problem[edit]

You used "Find" instead of "Search". "Find" looks through the database of people that are organized into family trees, and "Search" looks through the records. Here is the search you want: https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3ARhonda~%20%2Bsurname%3ARompola~

Yes, I did initially try "find" rather than "search". --Sphilbrick (talk) 00:53, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Public Record Index[edit]

Based on tax and voting registration records: Rhonda L Rompola 9 Mar 1960 934-9258 6346 Ellsworth Ave, Dallas, TX, 75214-2617

I think it turned out I hadn't completed my registration. I did a search and got very limited information but after completing the registration, I am seeing the additional detail that you just listed. Thanks for your help.--Sphilbrick (talk) 21:53, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
  • It is a great free resource. I just added in 100 missing birth dates and middle names. Don't forget to start a free family tree for your own family. The graphics for the tree are great, and you can attach the documents to the tree and write biographies for people and add in photos. It would cost $20 a month for the same info at Ancestry.com. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 21:59, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

1.37:1[edit]

Hello Richard,

You created in october 2015 the item no label (Q21035981). The item Academy ratio (Q1541540) is the same thing, no? Can we merge? --Tubezlob (🙋) 16:02, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Yes! perfect, I was wondering why we did not have it already.

Merge[edit]

if you go to your preferences > gadgets, the first one is a merge gadget. cheers. Slowking4 (talk) 02:21, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, I turned it on. Is there a gadget for adding reciprocal relationship links? If someone has 10 children, adding all the sibling and parents links is burdensome. It would be over 100 things to add. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 02:24, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
i imagine you would need a bot for repeated linking, (which you are better at than me). i'm afraid i stick to the manual tools, for cleaning up after the bots run. (and i have manually uploaded 10k images, so that's how i roll, not that i would recommend it) Slowking4 (talk) 02:30, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Place of Birth/Death Strings[edit]

When adding genealogical data sources, there are sometimes sources that only give the name of a city where a person was born or died without saying where the city is located. Sometimes this means that the city isn't specified unambiguously. To the extent that we want Wikidata to be welcoming of genealogical data, I think it would be good to be able to store strings of places of birth/death, so that data can be added even if the item of the specific town can't be specified. I therefore created a property proposal: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/place_of_birth_string What do you think about it? Would you mind adding a support vote? ChristianKl (talk) 15:01, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Sign your comments[edit]

Hi, I saw a lot of unsigned comments by you in the project chat. It's difficult to follow the discussion if we don't know who wrote the comments. Stryn (talk) 09:40, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Greetings[edit]

It's good to see you here too. You have been busy; great! Robin Patterson (talk) 08:27, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Marriage: start/end dates[edit]

To answer your question raised on Project Chat, my talk page and elsewhere: Wikidata currently uses "end date" on spouse (P26). So yes, you can import it here. That English language Wikipedia wants to use it (or not) is really up to them and has no impact on Wikidata contributions.
--- Jura 11:32, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 15:49, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

hall of fame inductees (Q49541409)[edit]

Hi Richard, what were you trying to do with hall of fame inductees (Q49541409)? Were you trying to create a new category for properties? Micru (talk) 08:31, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes, some biographical entries use "member_of= X hall of fame", which also includes people that work for "X hall of fame", like the president and board members. I wanted to have a category just for inductees. Then I found that other entries use "award_received=X hall of fame" (The Beatles:Award_received=Rock and Roll Hall of Fame) and that is the most populated category, so maybe that is the best way to have them organized, so I stopped. What do you think? How would you organize them? --RAN (talk) 14:04, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
Probably it is better to use "award_received=X hall of fame". Should we put that item for deletion? Micru (talk) 07:00, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Project discussion[edit]

Good afternoon (Norwegian time). Are you aware of this discussion? Quick community survey: notability of family members due to “structural need” [1] I belive you will have something to add there

Military properties[edit]

Good evening! I can see that you are dealing with military Properties
If usefull I have collected my self the enclosed Properties

Military properties
Jean de Lattre de Tassigny (Q81114) Q8018776 Peter Ustinov (Q55796) Carl Gustav Fleischer (Q3499537) Bjarne Øen (Q4570107) German battleship Scharnhorst (Q155222) Army Norway (Q1771854) Bundeswehr (Q56010) Operation Weserübung (Q150939)
commander of (P598) commanded by (P4791) military branch (P241) military rank (P410) position held (P39) conflict (P607) headquarters location (P159) has part (P527) order of battle (P4220)
French Far East Expeditionary Corps (Q2997796) Q21651731 British Army (Q222595) major general (Q157148) military officer (Q189290) World War II (Q362) Lillehammer (Q3745117) German Navy (Q56015) Norwegian Campaign order of battle (Q7061041)

Breg Pmt (talk) 20:02, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Tool[edit]

It's PetScan (Q23665536)
--- Jura 21:45, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Asking for support[edit]

@Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ): I have proposed an ID for Norwegian refugees to Sweden during World war 2. Can you have a look and support it if you find it usefull for wikidata? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Authority_control#norsk_krigsflyktning_register_ID Breg Pmt (talk) 12:04, 20 August 2018 (UTC)