User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )

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en-N This user has a native understanding of English.
sv-0 Den här användaren har inga kunskaper i svenska (eller förstår det bara med en stor svårighet).
de-0 Dieser Benutzer beherrscht Deutsch nicht (oder versteht es nur mit beträchtlichen Schwierigkeiten).
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German records[edit]

Eye on[edit]

  • Q107111354
  • Q112362274

Birth after the death of the father[edit]

Şefik Kamil Efes[edit]

New Lindauers[edit]

Incomplete proposal[edit]

Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) president vs. Abraham Lincoln president (1809-1865)[edit]

There has been a push recently to add birth and death years (1900-2000) in descriptions to aid in disambiguation, but it has led to confusing label-description combinations like "John Smith husband of Jane Doe (1862-1939)" and "John Smith Mayor of Wikiland (1862-1939)" where the dates appear to be for the spouse in the first case, and the term of office in the second case. My suggestion is to move the dates to the start of the description field so they appear as "John Smith (1862-1939) husband of Jane Doe" and "John Smith (1862-1939) Mayor of Wikiland". That way they will match the order used in almost every encyclopedia, including Wikipedia. For example: "Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865), sixteenth president of the United States of America".


Legacy link gives a 404 error, but other links with that property in other entries are ok.

I've run into this problem several times before and only recently found a solution. View the source code for the obituary page and search for "GBID". This is the number that should be used with person ID (P8367).
--Quesotiotyo (talk) 18:06, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Swedish biographical sources[edit]


You could use participant in (P1344) qualified by subject has role (P2868) interviewer (Q46034607) for an item about the person. The inverse would be participant (P710) qualified by object has role (P3831) interviewer (Q46034607) for an item about the interview. From Hill To Shore

Swedish cemetery maps[edit]

Magnus Malmberg:

Why do we need entries for Wikimedians?[edit]

  • People keep nominating Wikidata entries for Wikimedia Commons contributors but it is important to have them. At some point in the future, images at Wikimedia Commons that are under a creative commons license will fall into the public domain and be free of the creative commons attribution restrictions. We need information on the contributor now, so that people in the future can calculate 70 years after their death.
  • At "Requests for deletions" I continue to see nomination of entries for Wikimedians. My own entry was deleted last year without a nomination, I only noticed because of the broken links to Commons. Can we firm up the rules of whether Wikimedians get entries or get deleted? We currently have an ad hoc policy that leads to some deleted and some retained based on no objective policy. I see a need for entries for people that contribute images. 70 years after their death their images will be in the public domain and be freed from the restrictions of their current licenses. I don't see us being overwhelmed with contributors doxing themselves. I am not against having a minimum number of contributions to various projects.


Swedish newspapers[edit]

Martin Johnsson They propably will not (but send an email, they are basically only humans 🙂. Normally you will need to be at the library or at one of approx 10 libraries in the country to access it for free. You could try to contact the paper at (an adress I use for placing ads in the paper, cant fins anything better), or call them at Besöks- och Postadress: Svenska Dagbladet Västra Järnvägsgatan 21 105 17 Stockholm Märk kuvertet "SvD Kundservice" Telefon: +4686180220 Öppet: Mån-fre kl. 07-17 (lör-sön stängt). Mind the time zone difference (7 hours earlier then east coast time).


Botched police raid[edit]

Has part:

  • Police raid involving a deficient warrant
  • Police raid involving a civilian fatality
  • Police raid involving a law enforcement fatality
  • Police raid based on a false report of a crime
  • Police raid involving falsified evidence
  • Police raid of wrong address

Findagrave dicks[edit]

Frank K. being a dick on Yom Kippur because the place of burial for the parents of Gertrud Abraham are not known, so he refuses to link them together, even though both parents have an entry at Findagrave.

  • Memorial: Gertrud Abraham (218819627) Reported Problem: No change. The memorial is up to date with submitted edit. Hi thanks for the links, but this is FINDAGRAVE, not BUILT A TREE. Please resubmit, once you found the actual burial site for the parents. Thank you Frank K. ( )

Notes on positions[edit]

Each position has its own rules in the numbering system.


Bot creates a table[edit]

{{PositionHolderHistory|id=}} nature of statement=acting (Q4676846)

Wiki Commons contributers get entries?[edit]

The people of the future will want to know more about the photographer, and we are not exactly overwhelmed by people identifying themselves as contributors, most post under an anonymous screenname. If you look at VIAF and LCCN it is filled with the names of people who wrote one book, and there is no known information at all known about them. If they wrote two books and are duplicated in the list, we will never know to be able to merge the entries. We don't want to leave that mess to future generations to unravel. I am not against having a minimum number of contributions, or being a contributor for a certain number of years to get an entry to prevent spamming.

Why do we remove entries for living people that have verifiable YouTube accounts and Instagram accounts?[edit]

This stems from the problem of bots creating potentially fake entries that are used for fraud. Another worry is people hijacking existing verified Wikidata entries. Wikidata requires some reliable source to match a real person to an account so that it can be verified.

Exploited identifiers[edit]


  • LTA = Long Term Abuse.
  • SEO = Search Engine Optimization.

Priority New Identifiers[edit]

What reference source is the most deprecated[edit]

I have been fixing errors and noticed that some sources have more typos than others. Is there a way to search for our most deprecated source ... typos and other errors that have to deprecated because they are never corrected at the source. See for instance Michele Cerimele (Q55836816) where I deprecated a date because of a typo in our source: "Archivio Storico Ricordi". I fixed a dozen or so typos like that today. --RAN (talk) 07:52, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Political graveyard[edit]

I may have asked before, but I never saw an answer. How do I go from, which is where Google takes me, to the decimal version of the entry on the page. See for example ? So I can enter it in Wikidata as per this example: David Edward Fitzgerald (Q98133137) --RAN (talk) 04:48, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Curious arrangement. Best I can suggest is you inspect the element (i.e. look at the HTML markup) for the politician you're after, having manually located their entry on the page. So for Fitzgerald, Andrew, the element is a link <a name="194.19.01">Fitzgerald, Andrew</a>, from which you can derive the Political Graveyard politician ID (P8462) value, fitzgerald.html#194.19.01. --Tagishsimon (talk) 09:39, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Vaudeville performer[edit]

Is there any way I can automate adding occupation=vaudeville_performer where description contains "vaudeville performer"? I was doing it by hand, but there are too many. --RAN (talk) 19:06, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

@Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ): This report will list them. I presume you can quickstatements? 2 minute job. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:03, 24 November 2020 (UTC)


  • User talk:Babaluma
  • User talk:Saverkamp



Everyone and everything[edit]

Why doesn't Wikidata contain everyone and everything? We prioritize information dense entries and try and avoid information sparse entries. For instance VIAF and LCCN are databases of authors and other media creators. Some entries are information dense and have birth and death years. Other entries are information sparse, and always will be. There can be dozens of entries of "John Smith" as an author of a single book, and no other information. As we merge disparate databases and identify people, we need enough information to recognize that two entries in two databases are the same person.

Databases to upload[edit]

Calculated age[edit]

  • Date of Death: age at event = 86 years old

Create property[edit]

  • Military specialty=platoon leader, sapper, rifleman, sniper, medic, cook, radioman

COVID-19 deaths[edit]


The following query uses these:

  • Properties: cause of death (P509)  View with Reasonator View with SQID
    SELECT ?item ?itemLabel WHERE {
      ?item wdt:P509 wd:Q84263196.
      SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en". }

1918-1920 flu pandemic deaths[edit]

The best way to find more is to search for pneumonia deaths between 1918 and 1920.

The following query uses these:

  • Properties: cause of death (P509)  View with Reasonator View with SQID
    SELECT ?item ?itemLabel WHERE {
      ?item wdt:P509 wd:Q178275.
      SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en". }

AIDS (Q12199) 142[edit]

The following query uses these:

  • Properties: cause of death (P509)  View with Reasonator View with SQID
    SELECT ?item ?itemLabel WHERE {
      ?item wdt:P509 wd:Q12199.
      SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en". }

AIDS related complications deaths (Q4651894) 588[edit]

The following query uses these:

  • Properties: cause of death (P509)  View with Reasonator View with SQID
    SELECT ?item ?itemLabel WHERE {
      ?item wdt:P509 wd:Q4651894.
      SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en". }

AIDS related disease (Q28608836) 34[edit]

The following query uses these:

  • Properties: cause of death (P509)  View with Reasonator View with SQID
    SELECT ?item ?itemLabel WHERE {
      ?item wdt:P509 wd:Q28608836.
      SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en". }

HIV (Q15787)[edit]

The following query uses these:

  • Properties: cause of death (P509)  View with Reasonator View with SQID
    SELECT ?item ?itemLabel WHERE {
      ?item wdt:P509 wd:Q15787.
      SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en". }


Newest to be created[edit]

Various media[edit]

DAR ID[edit]

Error tracking[edit]

The following errors need to be corrected:


  • Anders Örbom and the Ryttmästares of the Jämtland Ranger Regiment


Category:SVG signatures of people from the United States
  • Thomas Patrick Norton I (1891-1968) signature from 1932.svg
  • File:Eddie August Schneider (1911-1940) signature from 1940.svg
  • Louis Julius Freudenberg (1894-1918) signature from June 5, 1917 final.svg
  • File:Arthur Oscar Freudenberg (1891-1968) signature from June 20, 1917.svg
  • John Edward Winblad

Swedish geography questions answered[edit]

User talk:Yger

Swedish extant graves[edit]



  • Stan Courtney Schneider family
  • Jared Banta Jensen family
  • Carol (Peckham) Poulos Lattin family, she writes me telling me to turn over my Findagrave entries to her, and she told family members not to cooperate with me, that she was the family genealogist

Can a bot add in siblings?[edit]

If someone has 11 children with entries in Wikidata someone has to add in the 10 siblings to each record of each child for 100 entries. This could better be handled by a bot that will give fewer errors. Does one exist already?  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk • contribs).

I'm not sure what the point would be. Queries would be better off just checking the parent-child data directly. --Yair rand (talk) 02:13, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
  • I think most people would be coming to Wikidata through Google or Siri or Alexa, and not running a query using SPARQL. Especially for entries not in English Wikipedia. --RAN (talk) 13:30, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
Poulpy used to run such a bot, I believe. Thierry Caro (talk) 04:16, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
A bot would be best, but in the short term you can use User:Matěj Suchánek/moveClaim.js to copy claims from one item to another. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:17, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
If no one has the script available, I would be willing to create and run it, if a request is made via WD:RBOT. I believe there will be more family relations that can be handled the same way (sibblings, parents/children, grand-parents, uncles, etc). I am working out something similar with ranges (follows (P155) and followed by (P156)) in a serie/chain. Edoderoo (talk) 12:43, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
You have User:Magnus Manske/consistency_check.js that helps - Salgo60 (talk) 17:21, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

Research IDs[edit]

  • Scopus
  • ResearcherID
  • LinkedIn

Interesting editors[edit]

  • Auntof6 deletes Simple English entries
  • Nikkimaria deletes information from Wikidata when deleted from English Wikipedia
  • Tagishsimon wrote "Worth noting that if you make very poor decisions when 'correcting' data, as you did here when you presumed that the DoB and DoD were transposed (in fact the problem was an erroneous DoB by 1 century), then you just make things worse." He found one error in the 1K records that I corrected.
  • Tagishsimon wrote "Are you actually able to point to a canonical list for the Mayor of New Brunswick, RAN, or are you just blowing smoke? Can you point to a NYT search for, e.g. 3rd Mayor of NB? You say "I don't think we have to worry about integrating antimayors to mirror antipopes, or pretender mayors", but I'm old enough to remember that it was you who raised this whole question of how we cater for colonial-era Mayors of New Brunswick. It seems to me that you have decided such colonial-era Mayors of New Brunswick are holders of an office distinct from post-independence Mayors of NB, and are perhaps unhappy that others think that the Mayor of NB is the mayor of NB, irrespective of the situation with the national government."
  • Tagishsimon wrote "That's a very poor understanding of news media you have there, RAN. As a simple for instance, where a news article reports source A saying "x was a botched police raid" and source B saying (in effect) "x was not a botched police raid", the news story is not 100% objective proof of a botched police raid. There's very clearly a wide and complex spectrum from successful/good police raid through to botched/unsuccessful/bad police raid. You've coined an item which has a ridiculous combination of label and description (does botched=failed? does failed=botched?). Your item has no references. Your "but it seems easier to just use my memory, and then find a find a reference using the wording 'botched raid' in the news" is nothing more than the Garbage In element of GIGO. There is no definition of scope, no criteria whatsoever for evaluating whether instances are in scope of out of scope. Really, the whole thing is risible … And I see there's more misunderstanding on your part. You have coined raid (Q107238062) with has part or parts (P527) values of "botched raid", "military raid" and "police raid". THIS IS NOT HOW WIKIDATA WORKS. "botched raid", "military raid" and "police raid" may indeed be subclasses of a raid, but WD does not list subclasses using has part or parts (P527), but rather by the subclass having a P279 pointing to the class. I fear to explore how much further you've gone with this line of work; how much more damage you've inflicted on WD. I see worrying signs of complete nonsense on police raid (Q97368680), where that item is now both a subclass of raid (Q476807) and different from raid (Q476807). The impression left is that you are well meaning & enthusiastic, but lack basic competence, and so unwittingly leave a trail of mess in your wake. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:50, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Tagishsimon wrote "Your supposition that a bot could be written to analyse whether a page meets a rule-based set of requirements is niave [sic] or petulant …"
  • Billinghurst deletes entries at WikiSource and leaves rude messages

Disambiguate families[edit]

  • Smith family
  • Smith banking family
  • John Smith (1800-1900) family
  • Smith family of New Jersey

Add photo from Flickr[edit]

SELECT ?item ?itemLabel ?url
  ?item wdt:P973 ?url.
  optional {?item wdt:P18 ?image .}
  SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en". }
Try it!

Nakhon Pa Mak, Phitsanulok, Thailand[edit],100.3489366,3a,75y,295.31h,75.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sd23iyPKgTLSnaAefffHqcw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Candidate for elected office[edit]

Is there a standard way we show someone was a candidate for an elected office without creating, say, 50 "candidate for Governor of state X" entries? If we created the categories would it also list the winner of the election or just the losers? --RAN (talk) 20:54, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

The usual way seems to be to create one item per election (often created anyway for Wikipedia), then each person can be listed with candidate (P726). E.g., 2012 South Korean presidential election (Q82241) Ghouston (talk) 04:15, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
There's also the inverse approach, using candidacy in election (P3602) on the person, pointing at the election item. --Oravrattas (talk) 08:26, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Death at sea[edit]

Did we ever finalize a way to mark a death-at-sea? We were looking for a way to harmonize all the deaths at sea and which ones had the bodies recovered and which ones did not. We created death at sea (Q46998267) but did not agree on how best to utilize it, so it was never populated beyond a few demo records ... did it progress any since I left the conversation? We have a category for deaths at sea in English Wikipedia ... but how best to mark them here so we can get a comprehensive count and a comprehensive list. --RAN (talk) 23:58, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

The problem with death at sea (Q46998267) is that it's an event, not a location, so it's inconsistent to use it as a value of place of death (P20). However, at sea (Q55438959) can be used instead, so it seems to me that death at sea (Q46998267) can be deleted. It won't be possible to make a comprehensive count without also considering more specific values like North Atlantic Ocean (Q350134) which are used as a death locations, e.g., for Thomas Andrews (Q275937). Ghouston (talk) 03:27, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
As a way to harmonize, what about populating "manner of death" with death at sea (Q46998267) or at sea (Q55438959) in addition to accident?
I don't think that would be the way "manner of death" is supposed to be used. It would be like having "death on a train" or "death in Germany" as values. Ghouston (talk) 23:34, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
If the desire is just to make it easy to find all the deaths at sea, it's really no different to wanting to find all deaths in any other geographical area, like Germany. You can only do it by traversing the hierarchy of locations. That would mean ideally fitting "at sea" into the same hierarchy as "North Atlantic Ocean" or "Tasman Sea". Ghouston (talk) 23:37, 6 February 2019 (UTC)


Close dicussion[edit]

  • {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]]}}

Recyclable FAG entries[edit]

Funeral homes[edit]

Mack Memorial Home, Central Avenue and Hutton Street, Jersey City aka Otto Mack Funeral Home



Property proposals[edit]

Subclass of[edit]

Second-order metaclass (Q24017465) for mayors of X County in New Jersey

Wikidata dynamic lists[edit]

Ban on synthetic fields[edit]

Currently we ban the creation of a field containing a url if it can be synthesized from information from another field. It would be much better if Wikidata had a field called "Worldcat url" and "CIA World Fact Book url". For instance "Worldcat url" should be synthesized automatically from the LCCN_ID into a clickable url stored directly in Wikidata. We only get a link to Worldcat if that person has an entry in Wikipedia where it is synthesized on the fly from Wikidata. Some people use Wikidata directly as a source of information.

Copyright start date[edit]

Would there be any interest in having the date that copyright status begins as a field for newspapers and magazines. Currently you have to search here for the publication and it tells you the start date for copyrights (as best can be discerned to date). That information could be pulled into WikiCommons and WikiSource by a template with standardized wording. See for example: here for a hand-written example for the Asbury Park Press which did not file for renewal and The Jersey Jornal which did. Some publications had a more extensive copyright clearance search performed and gaps in renewals were found for individual issues, see Time magazine as an example. We would not be able to have a single date for Time magazine. --RAN (talk) 19:28, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

The template reading the Wikidata date would add this statement to the category for the articles in Commons and in Source:--RAN (talk) 02:46, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Articles published in the Jersey Journal are in the public domain prior to February 9, 1929. All articles starting on that date are currently under active copyright.

New Subclasses[edit]

  • city halls of Bergen County, New Jersey
  • city halls of Hudson County, New Jersey
  • Category:City halls in New Jersey

Things to automate[edit]

Participants in the w:1915 Indianapolis 500 added to Property:P1344

Authorities that use Wikidata[edit]


Since English Wikipedia is removing links to Findagrave and the people removing the links refuse to migrate the data to Wikidata before deletion ... I wonder if we have a bot that finds the most probable matches and just needs a human eye to confirm or deny? Both and Familysearch have this function. We migrated over the Findagrave ID if it used a standard template in external links in Wikipedia but most articles did not use that template. Most articles used it as a reference for the place of burial, and those are the ones being deleted now. --RAN (talk) 18:21, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

That looks like it only ran for flagged "famous" people, mostly actors. I add politicians, and they are almost never famous at Findagrave and I have to search for them manually. Can the bot be adjusted, I would love to have that as a project. --RAN (talk) 05:51, 28 January 2018 (UTC)


Locational dopplegangers[edit]

  • Princeton (Q138518)
  • Chatham
  • Andover Borough / Township, Berlin Borough / Township, Boonton Town / Township, Bordentown City / Township, Burlington City / Township, Chatham Borough / Township, Chester Borough / Township , Clinton Town / Township, Egg Harbor City / Township, Freehold Borough / Township, Gloucester City / Township, Hopewell Borough / Township, Lebanon Borough / Township, Mendham Borough / Township --- Audubon / Audubon Park, Barnegat Light / Barnegat Township, Englewood / Englewood Cliffs, Haddon Township / Haddonfield. Haddon Heights, the Cape Mays and Wildwoods.
  • There are also counties that are also cities like Baltimore and Los Angeles. This can be confusing.

Lost at sea or died at sea[edit]

To cluster people who were lost at sea in an airplane or boat. To cluster people who died aboard an airplane or boat but the body was recovered. lost at sea (Q99255530) death at sea (Q46998267)

People with topographical names[edit]

Wikidata specific items[edit]

Where to add proposals[edit]

Proposals yet to be made[edit]

Done[edit] Jewish Museum Berlin person ID

Proposals completed[edit]

VIAF duplicates[edit]


I’ve had good results sending corrections to VIAF using the “send us a comment” link on the bottom of their page. I included the VIAF and wikidata IDs and an external reference for the particular problem, and they fixed it in about a week. - PKM (talk) 20:33, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Proposed projects[edit]

Wikicalendar, a new wiki project so that full dates in articles can link to information on that day. A cursor hover will show the full date, day of the week, and how many years and days ago the event took place. A click on the link will bring you to a list of events that occurred on that day. People who were born and who died. Wikipedia pages that contain this information on specific dates can be migrated. Wikipedia pages can choose to just have the cursor hover for information on that date or a full link to Wikicalender.


Spanish names[edit]


Find date of birth[edit]



Extra permissions[edit]

Chat for questions[edit]

Purge cache[edit]

Property lists[edit]


1918 flu pandemic deaths[edit]


  • 092 [[wikidata:Q20668389|Maria Elizabeth Winblad (1895-1987)
  • 091 Anna Augusta Kershaw (1841-1931)
  • 091 Thomas
  • 089 Selma

Interesting people[edit]

Key: ^ = Wikipedia article, § = Commons category or gallery but no Wikipedia entry, * = needs a commons category created and a public domain document uploaded, 1 = degree of separation from a Wikipedia or Commons entry, ¶ = genealogics entry

More interesting people[edit]

Reference books[edit]


English Wikipedia[edit]


Test version[edit]


Dolly Zoom[edit]


"I only watch Colbert" Andromeda Strain (miniseries)

Typos in authority files[edit]

Implausible death dates[edit]

Events in my life[edit]

Somerset County Historical Society[edit]

  • Create a Wikimedia account for the Somerset County Historical Society.
  • Scan and post the oldest photos.
  • Add a new tombstone block to at least one distressed grave a year similar to DAR using GoFundMe, See Simon Addis.
  • Is this our website

Somerset County Historical Society[edit]


  • Responded! Phone: Donald Esposito; April 1, 2021
  • Email: Fred Sisser III ; April 1, 2021
  • Responded! Phone: Jim Kurzenberger: Phone: 908-725-1015 (this is the Wallace House); April 1, 2021

Early films I liked[edit]

  • Brainstorm (1983 film)