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Authority control[edit]

See also Wikidata:Property proposal/Pending for approved items awaiting the deployment of currently unavailable datatypes
Already approved properties: list

Bashkir encyclopedia (Bashkir version) ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description Encyclopedia
Represents Bashkir Encyclopedia (Q16271761)
Data type External identifier
Example Salavatsky District (Q288115)САЛАУАТ РАЙОНЫ
Source http://баш.башкирская-энциклопедия.рф
See also Wikidata:Property proposal/Bashkir encyclopedia (Russian version) ID
Motivation

Useful source, especially for Republic of Bashkortostan (Q5710) related articles. Already exists at Mix'n'match tool. Visem (talk) 20:51, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Discussion
  • @Visem: The target URL in the example given is http://баш.башкирская-энциклопедия.рф/index.php/component/content/article/8-statya/11681-salauat-rajony It's not clear how much of that is the ID, and how much is the formatter URL (P1630). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:52, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
    • Dear Andy, I gave an example of matching Wikidata item with article in Bashkir Encyclopedia. Unfortunatelly I haven't understand yet what is the formatter URL and how it works. Best regards, --Visem (talk) 21:03, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Are the id's (final strings in the URL's, however this proposal settles on them) actually different for the Bashkir and Russian versions of this encyclopedia? I think it might be better to have just one id with two formatter URL's, maybe the Russian one preferred rank if more people read that... ? ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:20, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
    Both versions are important equally. And as I told, both versions are already exist at mix-n-match tool. --Visem (talk) 12:59, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Bashkir encyclopedia (Russian version) ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description Bashkir Encyclopedia
Represents Bashkir Encyclopedia (Q16271761)
Data type External identifier
Example Salavatsky District (Q288115)САЛАВАТСКИЙ РАЙОН
Source http://башкирская-энциклопедия.рф
See also Wikidata:Property proposal/Bashkir encyclopedia (Bashkir version) ID
Motivation

Useful source, especially for Republic of Bashkortostan (Q5710) related articles. Already exists at Mix'n'match tool. Visem (talk) 21:07, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Discussion
  • @Visem: The target URL in the example given is http://башкирская-энциклопедия.рф/index.php/component/content/article/2-statya/6974-salavatskij-rajon It's not clear how much of that is the ID, and how much is the formatter URL (P1630). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:55, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
    • Dear Andy, I gave an example of matching Wikidata item with article in Bashkir Encyclopedia. Unfortunatelly I haven't understand yet what is the formatter URL and how it works. Best regards, --Visem (talk) 21:06, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
      • @Visem:, let me look into this. --Gikü (talk) 20:29, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
      • @Pigsonthewing:, I think http://башкирская-энциклопедия.рф/index.php/component/content/article/<id> should work. --Gikü (talk) 20:33, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
        • Thank you. That would make the ID in the example 2-statya/6974-salavatskij-rajon, right? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:53, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
          • Yes, 6974 would be the ID here. --Gikü (talk) 10:40, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

TLG work ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description work identifier in the Thesaurus Linguae Graecae canon
Data type External identifier
Domain Greek literary works from Homer to 1453
Allowed values for authors: 4 digit number; for works: 3 digit number
Example Iliad (Q8275)0012.001
Format and edit filter validation 3 digit number
Source http://stephanus.tlg.uci.edu/tlgauthors/post_tlg_e.php
Formatter URL http://stephanus.tlg.uci.edu/Iris/inst/browser.jsp#doc=tlg&aid='''[TLG author ID]'''&wid=$1&st=0
Motivation

The Thesaurus Linguae Graecae (Q2131030) has the most comprehensive and scientifically useful database of Ancient and Byzantine Greek literature, ranging from Homer to the end of the Byzantine period (1453). It is widely used in the scholarly community, mainly for those working at universities, because access to the database is restricted. For the whole of the TLG database, you need an (expensive) subscription; part of the Canon, the "TLG Abridged", is available for free but requires registration.

A formatter URL would be impractical because access to the TLG Canon is restricted (as described above). But it still technically is an external ID, not only a string.

In order to be useful as an external ID, this property would have to somehow be linked with the corresponding author ID (see Wikidata:Property proposal/TLG author ID). Maybe this is possible by parsing the TLG author ID from the item linked at the work with author (P50). For example: For the Iliad, which has author (P50)  Homer (Q6691), we could extract the TLG author ID from Homer (Q6691) to create the complete formatter URL. Is that possible? Jonathan Groß (talk) 13:40, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Discussion
Good to know. The TLG numbers are not exactly clandestine (Homer is cited here for example), but are not easy to get a hold of. I've written an e-mail to TLG support asking if they are willing to provide a list of their numbers. Let's see how they respond. Jonathan Groß (talk) 13:43, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
@Jonathan Groß: Did you get any response from them? Do you think this property is still needed? ChristianKl (talk) 09:53, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
So far no answer. We should forgo creation of this property for the time being. We can archive this proposal, I think. Jonathan Groß (talk) 10:12, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Wikia wiki ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description identifier of a topic's wiki, in Wikia
Data type External identifier
Domain popular media topics
Example
Source http://www.wikia.com/fandom
Formatter URL http://$1.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
See also IMDb ID (P345)
Motivation

Wikia (Q17459) is a wiki that provides hosting for open-licensed fandom content about subjects in popular culture, in more detail than is usually found on Wikipedias. It also provides an API Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:21, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Discussion
  • Whats the use of this? MechQuester (talk) 19:36, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
    • "[Wikidata] is intended to provide a common source of data which can be used by Wikimedia projects such as Wikipedia, and by anyone else, under a public domain licence." Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:52, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
  • I like the idea of crosslinking, but would it be better to create an item about each Wikia site with the URL as a normal property, then use main subject (P921) to link them to the topics? Since the wikis are more substantial than most things we use topic properties for, it seems reasonable to give them their own items; cf/ Wookieepedia (Q934052) or Memory Alpha (Q498824), two of the more notable ones. Andrew Gray (talk) 13:43, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
    • This approach would be OK with me, provided the sites are all accepted as notable. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:15, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
      • I'm not sure what our standards for site notability are on here (I suspect not-well-defined), but "completing a finite set, several of which are notable" seems not unreasonable. Perhaps something for the project chat... Andrew Gray (talk) 21:56, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
  • I support creation of wikia items linked to the subject with main subject (P921) and perhaps vice versa linked by described by source (P1343). Lymantria (talk) 08:58, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
  • Since a wikia could be created out of the blue (couldn't it?), I think we should avoid having items by default for these sites and a property linking the wikia is preferable. Strakhov (talk) 12:29, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

The Baseball Cube ID[edit]

   On hold
Description identifier of a baseball player at www.thebaseballcube.com
Data type External identifier
Template parameter cube at en:Template:Baseballstats
Domain people
Allowed values string
Example Chris Young (Q2964906)Chris-Young-1
Planned use Template:Sports links (Q22674492)
Formatter URL http://www.thebaseballcube.com/profile.asp?P=$1
Robot and gadget jobs From Wikipedia
Motivation

(Add your motivation for this property here.) GZWDer (talk) 04:45, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Discussion
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Thierry Caro (talk) 12:04, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:51, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Everything will be changing and I need the time and space to do this. There is risk involved though. If I am unable to achieve my goal, I will likely shut down. [1] --Pasleim (talk) 02:58, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose per Pasleim. ChristianKl (talk) 10:33, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose agree. if the web will be change in the next 6 months, is better to wait. - yona b (talk) 06:04, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
  • @GZWDer, Thierry Caro, Pigsonthewing, Pasleim: Not done. If the website get stable and removes the notice that everything will change, we can reevaluate. ChristianKl (talk) 06:36, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
    • @ChristianKl: You shouldn't be closing this, as you opposed. Please reopen it, so that a more neutral person can evaluate it, not least in the light of the fact that the site is currently stable; and the availability of archive.org copies of its pages. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:46, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
    • Okay, I removed the "Not done". ChristianKl (talk) 15:39, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Putting Time2wait.svg On hold. Matěj Suchánek (talk) 09:35, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Quebec cultural heritage directory intangible heritage ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description intangible heritage listed in the Quebec cultural heritage directory
Represents intangible cultural heritage (Q59544)
Data type External identifier
Allowed values [1-9]\d{0,1}
Example Inuit throat singing (Q2956224)3
Source http://www.patrimoine-culturel.gouv.qc.ca/rpcq/rechercheImmateriel.do?methode=afficher
Formatter URL http://www.patrimoine-culturel.gouv.qc.ca/rpcq/detail.do?methode=consulter&id=$1&type=imma
See also Quebec cultural heritage directory ID (P633), Québec cultural heritage directory people identifier (P2592)
Motivation

Beat Estermann (talk) 23:21, 30 November 2016 (UTC) Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 11:25, 21 January 2017 (UTC) --Ilya (talk) 00:27, 29 January 2017 (UTC) Fralambert (talk) 01:00, 29 January 2017 (UTC) user:Sadads User:Astinson (WMF) 22:02, 2 February 2017 (UTC) Strakhov (talk) 00:48, 4 February 2017 (UTC) Zeromonk (talk) 10:00, 6 March 2017 (UTC) Spinster 💬 10:51, 6 March 2017 (UTC) Wittylama (talk) Daniel Mietchen (talk) 16:43, 28 March 2017 (UTC) Susanna Ånäs (Susannaanas) (talk) 10:08, 29 March 2017 (UTC) Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Cultural heritage

It's a small directory versus Quebec cultural heritage directory ID (P633) and Québec cultural heritage directory people identifier (P2592) (Only 37 entries in total), but it's a inventory of all tiems who are in intangible cultural heritage (Q59544) in Quebec. Fralambert (talk) 01:55, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

PASE Domesday person ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description Identifier for a land holder in 1066 or 1087 on the PASE Domesday website
Data type External identifier
Domain human (Q5)
Allowed values \d+
Example Edward the Confessor (Q130005)38697
Beorhtsige Cild (Q28732782)39036
Format and edit filter validation \d+
Source http://domesday.pase.ac.uk/
Formatter URL http://domesday.pase.ac.uk/Domesday?op=5&personkey=$1
See also PASE Domesday place (proposed), PASE name (P2744), PASE ID (P2625), OpenDomesday person ID (P3122), OpenDomesday settlement ID (P3118)
Motivation

This would link people in England from the period 1066-1087 to a property ownership summary and map on the PASE Domesday site, a collaboration between historians of the period at Cambridge and King's College London since 2005.

Background: A great challenge with the en:Domesday Book is to identify which ownership records refer to the same person, and who that person might be. For example, following the link for Edward the Confessor above shows that he was sometimes recorded as Edwardus, sometimes as Eduuardus, sometimes as E, and sometimes not at all, in the ownership of his properties in 1066. PASE Domesday has been a project to try to identify and separate where possible who the different owners recorded by Domesday were (including by relating them to different known surviving deeds, and subsequent inheritances etc). The present version was released in 2015 and is the "state of the art" for this information, as well as allowing it to be visualised on a useful map representation.

Relation to other properties: Headnotes for each PASE Domesday person identify them with a PASE name (P2744) in the PASE person/documents database (eg: Edward 15). However, the underlying identifier numbers are different; and there is seemingly no straightforward click-path between the PASE person/documents database and the PASE domesday database in either direction (even though the Domesday holdings are listed in the person/documents database under the "possession" tab). So it is advantageous to hold both identifiers, as well as the PASE name (P2744). We already have quite good coverage of P2744 in templates on en-wiki article pages, which I hope to be harvesting very soon; this should give a good start in matching many of the more notable PASE Domesday people to Q-numbers.

Comparing with the Open Domesday project, the Open Domesday project has a more attractive interface for browsing the Domesday information for a local area geographically; but it (and its property OpenDomesday person ID (P3122)) cannot bring the same scholarship to bear to do the same deep investigation of ownership. However, it is valuable to be able to access, compare, and contrast the assessments of both of the two projects.

The ownership maps are the real 'wow' of the PASE Domesday project, and that is the view that would be made accessible by this proposed property. Jheald (talk) 16:07, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

…* Symbol support vote.svg Support - however your second-last paragraph does not make sense, I assume the second "Open Domesday" should be "PASE Domesday"? Also is there any way to prevail on PASE to fix the linking issue you mention (I still think it's fine to have both ids here). ArthurPSmith (talk) 16:49, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi @ArthurPSmith:, thanks for the support.
To compare the two projects, here is what you get for Compton (Q5157132) in Surrey at Open Domesday and PASE Domesday respectively; and here is what you get for the land holder Beorhtsige Cild (Q28732782) ("Brictsi"): Open Domesday, PASE Domesday.
The Open Domesday site is prettier, but the weight of that reasoned scholarship for Beorhtsige at PASE is impressive (scroll down below the property table at PASE for their analysis) -- and as a result, the much wider range of settlements that PASE are connecting him with. That's what I was trying to say. I think I did get it the right way round, but I agree it was awkwardly worded.
As for the linking issue, I haven't made contact with them yet. The link formatting broke last year that we were using for their person/documents site (there is a fallback, but it doesn't get their framing any more, so the navigation isn't as good). So let me gently ask them about that first, and then see where we go. I imagine it makes a lot of sense for them to have two separate identifiers, so they can change their identifications of landowners between different potential candidates with minimum trouble. But it does seem less than optimal not to have more linking between the two sides, nor a very straightforward URL-friendly resolver from PASE name (P2744) to either of their numerical identifiers. Jheald (talk) 17:48, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

PASE Domesday place[edit]

   Under discussion
Description Identifier for a settlement in 1066 or 1087 on the PASE Domesday website
Data type External identifier
Domain settlements in England and Wales
Example Axminster (Q792596)vill=Axminster
Devon (Q23156)shire=Devon
Compton (Q5157132)vill=Compton&shire=Surrey
Format and edit filter validation (vill|shire)=.+
Source http://domesday.pase.ac.uk/
Formatter URL http://domesday.pase.ac.uk/Domesday?op=6&$1
See also PASE Domesday person ID (proposed), OpenDomesday settlement ID (P3118)
Motivation

To link places to the standardised form needed to retrieve records for them on the PASE Domesday website.

See the PASE Domesday person ID proposal for more about the PASE Domesday project, and comparison with Open Domesday. Jheald (talk) 16:52, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

CIA World Factbook Country ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description identifier that the CIA World Factbook uses to reference individual countries.
Data type External identifier
Domain countries
Example Iran (Q794)ir
Formatter URL https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/$1.html
Motivation

The CIA World Factbook is a source of quality data that's in the public domain. ChristianKl (talk) 12:01, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

BDFutbol manager ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description ID of a manager at BDFutbol
Data type External identifier
Template parameter en:Template:BDFutbol manager
Domain football manager
Allowed values \d+
Example Míchel (Q558689)1543
Planned use Template:Association football links (Q25919080)
Formatter URL http://www.bdfutbol.com/en/l/l$1.html
Robot and gadget jobs from Wikipedia
Motivation

see usage GZWDer (talk) 19:39, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

Delusion23
WFC
happy5214
Fawkesfr
Xaris333
A.Bernhard
Cekli829
Japan Football
HakanIST
Jmmuguerza
H4stings
Unnited meta
Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Association football. Thierry Caro (talk) 11:23, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Thierry Caro (talk) 12:06, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
  • I found that BDFutbol seems to use the same number for players and managers (see [2]). Is this property still needed? Or we can only have one BDFutbol ID property?--GZWDer (talk) 17:25, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
    If we have only on BDFutbol ID property, we'll have to qualify it. Because we could not know if the guy is a player, a manager, or both (and the URL is not the same). H4stings (talk) 08:42, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose the ID is the same for player and manager only the URL change. palyer: bdfutbol.com/en/j/j$1.html and manager: bdfutbol.com/en/l/l$1.html. and to know if he is palyer, manager or both we can use occupation (P106) with association football player (Q937857) or/and association football manager (Q628099) - yona b (talk) 06:10, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

BFI Film & TV Database ID[edit]

There're two kinds of IDs, BFI is currently switching to new style of ID, but Wikipedia template still use old style.

old style ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description identifier for a person at BFI Film & TV Database (old style)
Data type External identifier
Template parameter en:Template:BFI db name and en:Template:Bfidb individual (two templates have the same formatter URL)
Domain people
Allowed values \d+
Example
Formatter URL http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/individual/$1
Robot and gadget jobs from Wikipedia (but not to import IDs to thematic catalog items like Peter Sellers on stage, radio, screen and record (Q7176864))
See also other IDs by British Film Institute (Q260528): BFI work ID (P2703) and Wikidata:Property proposal/Screenonline ID

new style ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description identifier for a person or movie at BFI Film & TV Database (old style)
Data type External identifier
Domain people, movie
Allowed values [0-9a-f]{13}
Example
Formatter URL http://www.bfi.org.uk/films-tv-people/$1
Robot and gadget jobs old style URL redirects to new style automatically
See also other IDs by British Film Institute (Q260528): BFI work ID (P2703) and Wikidata:Property proposal/Screenonline ID
Motivation

See usage and usage GZWDer (talk) 19:58, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

Bollywood Hungama actor ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description identifier of a actor at Bollywood Hungama
Represents Bollywood Hungama (Q4939834)
Data type External identifier
Template parameter en:Template:Bollywood Hungama
Domain people
Allowed values \d+
Example Amitabh Bachchan (Q9570)325
Formatter URL http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/celebritymicro/index/id/$1
Robot and gadget jobs from Wikipedia
Motivation

see usage GZWDer (talk) 20:21, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

Early Aviators ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description ID for a person by Early Birds of Aviation, at www.earlyaviators.com
Represents Early Birds of Aviation (Q5326600)
Data type External identifier
Template parameter en:Template:Early Aviators (with suffix ".htm")
Domain people
Allowed values e[a-z]+
Example Henry H. Arnold (Q436102)earnold
Formatter URL http://www.earlyaviators.com/$1.htm
Robot and gadget jobs Mix'n'match, as there're only 598 entries at that website
Motivation

see usage GZWDer (talk) 09:49, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

Goalzz ID[edit]

   On hold
Description ID of a player at Goalzz
Data type External identifier
Template parameter en:Template:Goalzz
Domain people
Allowed values \d+
Example Ahmed Khalil (Q2160925)21069
Planned use Template:Association football links (Q25919080)
Formatter URL http://www.goalzz.com/main.aspx?player=$1
Robot and gadget jobs from Wikipedia (but few)
Motivation

see usage, and more at [3] GZWDer (talk) 12:04, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

Delusion23
WFC
happy5214
Fawkesfr
Xaris333
A.Bernhard
Cekli829
Japan Football
HakanIST
Jmmuguerza
H4stings
Unnited meta
Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Association football. Thierry Caro (talk) 11:27, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support.-- Hakan·IST 11:28, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment. So far the link does not work. Thierry Caro (talk) 12:58, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose. Seems out of business or something. Thierry Caro (talk) 23:35, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Mrked as "on hold". A colleague reports "...the links still work (they haven't changed the website setup) and the info is there in the code of the pages, but is not appearing for whatever reason. Hopefully they will fix it soon.". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:50, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

MobyGames developer ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description ID of a developer at MobyGames
Data type External identifier
Template parameter en:Template:Moby developer
Domain people
Allowed values \d+
Example Ian Livingstone (Q1082789) → 14597
Formatter URL https://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,$1/
Robot and gadget jobs from Wikipedia
See also MobyGames ID (P1933)
Motivation

see usage GZWDer (talk) 14:21, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

The same would be great for the company ID (like this one) and game groups/series (like this one).

https://www.mobygames.com/company/companyId,$1/
https://www.mobygames.com/game-group/gamegroupId,$1/

Thanks --Abu-Dun (talk) 15:33, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Also, what do we do with people who are not developers that are listed at MobyGames unter the parameter "developer", like composers (example)? Would "person" be better? --Abu-Dun (talk) 15:40, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Could be named "MobyGames person ID". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:53, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support--Mikey641 (talk) 10:56, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Not ready, till we have a decision whether "MobyGames person ID" or "MobyGames developer ID" is better. ChristianKl (talk) 07:19, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Should be nice to have it; for the name I would say "MobyGames developer ID" since it is also mentioned in the URL and using the same name sounds more straightforward. --ネイ (talk) 16:55, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Ohio History Central ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description ID of a topic at Ohio History Central, an extensive online encyclopedia of Ohio history by Ohio History Connection (Q3349886)
Data type External identifier
Template parameter en:Template:Ohio History Central
Domain various
Allowed values \d+
Example Toledo War (Q1369423) → 562
Formatter URL http://www.ohiohistorycentral.org/entry.php?rec=$1
Robot and gadget jobs from Wikipedia
Motivation

see Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Ohio_History_Central

Note: Currently Ohio History Central is internally a fishbowl MediaWiki site, but the Wikipedia template (and formatter URL above) uses a number seemly unrelated to MediaWiki. The largest number is 3483, created on 24 April 2013‎. Probably the record number is obsolete and pages created later have no record number. We may want to store the page name instead. GZWDer (talk) 15:53, 12 February 2017 (UTC)


Discussion

Thierry Caro Roseohioresident

Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject United States. Thierry Caro (talk) 13:17, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

I created that template when that site used a number to identify articles. They soon thereafter went to names for their articles, with re-directs from the old numbering system. Page name for current site is |formatter URL =http://www.ohiohistorycentral.org/index.php?title=$1

Where $1 =Toledo_War

for the example #562 given above. That would be a better method than the obsolete numbering system. Roseohioresident (talk) 07:16, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Reprezentacija football player ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description identifier for a Serbian association football player at Reprezentacija.rs
Data type External identifier
Template parameter en:Template:Reprezentacija
Domain Association footballers
Allowed values \d+
Example Ivica Kralj (Q225418)1201
Formatter URL http://www.reprezentacija.rs/statistika/reprezentativci/$1
Robot and gadget jobs from Wikipedia
Motivation

see usage GZWDer (talk) 16:21, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

Songwriters Hall of Fame ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description ID for a person at Songwriters Hall of Fame
Represents Songwriters Hall of Fame (Q861660)
Data type External identifier
Template parameter en:Template:Shof
Domain people
Allowed values \d+
Example Samuel A. Ward (Q2450043)202
Formatter URL http://www.songwritershalloffame.org/exhibits/C$1
Robot and gadget jobs From Wikipedia, and also probably mix'n'match as there're relative few (383 as of 2010) entries
Motivation

see usage GZWDer (talk) 17:11, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Discussion
  • Looks to me like the ID in the example should be C202, with the formatter URL adjusted accordingly. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:12, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
    • @Pigsonthewing: However the Wikipedia template use the ID without prefix, with formatter url http://www.songwritershalloffame.org/exhibit_home_page.asp?exhibitId=$1 which currently automatically redirected to the URL above.--GZWDer (talk) 11:22, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
  • It's worth investigating whether the website has ID's that don't start with a C. Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose till it's clear whether that's the case. ChristianKl (talk) 18:30, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment http://songwritershalloffame.org/exhibits/alphabetically is the full list and I do not see an ID that doesn't start with a C. --ネイ (talk) 17:04, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

The Numbers person ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description ID of an actor at The Numbers
Represents The Numbers (Q17072251)
Data type External identifier
Domain people
Allowed values \d+-[a-z\-]+
Example Simone Signoret (Q106126)132190401-Simone-Signoret
Formatter URL http://www.the-numbers.com/person/$1
Motivation

see usage GZWDer (talk) 18:08, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Discussion
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment The ID works with the numeric part only as well. – Máté (talk) 12:33, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:14, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
  • @GZWDer, Pigsonthewing: Is there a reason not to switch to storing pure numbers if they also work as Máté implies? ChristianKl (talk) 07:15, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
  • It would make sense to me for the property to be number only. At the moment I don't think the question is resolved so I mark as not ready. ChristianKl (talk) 09:47, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

identifier shared with[edit]

   Under discussion
Description Qualifier, to be used on external identifier IDs, indicating another Wikidata item is also matched to this ID
Data type Item
Example Creoda of Mercia (Q743095) PASE ID (P2625) 2403 → "identifier shared with" Creoda of Wessex (Q5184195)
Motivation

There are times when authoritative external websites and databases will differ as to whether descriptions in different original sources should be taken to refer to the same item or to different items (eg for people, in ancient documents, described in not quite equivalent contexts, perhaps with slightly different name spellings). Sometimes we will have one item in such a case; sometimes we will have two -- perhaps linked by said to be the same as (P460), sometimes not (eg if a website appears definitely to have made a mistake).

This qualifier is to indicate the other wikidata item(s) linked to the same identifier in the external database, in cases where we have multiple different items, but the external database identifies them together under the same identifier. Jheald (talk) 16:34, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Discussion
For the record, also it may not be the case that this qualifier implies that the item should have a P460 -- it could just be a database error; the appropriate property on the item could be different from (P1889). I would prefer to leave P460 for instances where there really does appear to be a reasonable case, preferably set out at length in a reliable source, for identifying the two items with each other. Jheald (talk) 13:03, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Black Lunch Table ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description identifier for the Black Lunch Table initiative task list
Represents Black Lunch Table (Q28781198)
Data type External identifier
Allowed values BLT-######
Example Black Lunch Table (Q28781198) - but doesn't exist yet
Source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Black_Lunch_Table/Lists_of_Articles which is transcluded into a Google Sheet spreadsheet
Planned use Task list for initiatives using Wikidata identifier for the Black Lunch Table initiative task list for both blue and red linked items of Visual artists of the African diaspora, integrating Wikidata in Wikipedia initiatives
Motivation

This is a Wikipedia initiative that focuses on Visual artists of the African diaspora. It a crowd-sourced task list that can't be identified by statements because of the diversity of the background within their community, but they can be identified by this ID. BrillLyle (talk) 18:40, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Discussion
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. GerardM (talk) 05:06, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment @BrillLyle: how far is the project from having a website presence or some other online resource? This prop isn't much good if you can't specify a Formatter URL (i.e. links to the project) --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 07:25, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
    • @Vladimir Alexiev: The task list is here and there's a spreadsheet here; it's not a traditional ID in the sense it doesn't have a URL with a unique identifier. Instead it would be a unique identifier used to run queries. It will be highly functional for location and gender queries, as the initiative is being conducted all over North America with plans to expand it internationally. -- Erika aka BrillLyle (talk) 07:36, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
    • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose @BrillLyle: Ok, so this is a table with 903 entries and little extra info (eg birth & residence country, but I assume you'll add that to WD eventually). So the table serves to manage work (which entry has what data), not to hold data. I fully know why you need this (you prefer to manage the work of your project on WD rather than on some stray google sheet), and we have similar needs (eg for the Europeana Food and Drink (Q19723898) and European Holocaust Research Infrastructure (Q21755493) projects). But adding a per-project ID property, which does not lead to more data, and is not subject to coreferencing (because people won't care to link to your table if you don't have extra data), is not the solution. Instead, I'll propose a generic "identifier" property. --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 09:53, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
      • @Vladimir Alexiev: Your assumptions are based on what? It is EXACTLY to add data to these items because that will allow for queries; to show how well the project is doing, to see the gender ration. So you propose "something" but no details.. Sorry, but you provide no substantial argument to go on you are against but have no alternative. GerardM (talk) 10:43, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
@GerardM, BrillLyle: My understanding is that the project will add data to WD, it won't build its own database or website. So the identifier is needed for the project to find the items on WD, not the other way around. I don't see this added on Mix-n-Match because the project is building a complete coreference table anyway. I proposed Wikidata:Property proposal/Identifier that will allow the project to track, yet won't add a property that does not lead to extra data outside WD. Please support that proposal --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 15:46, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
We do want the same mechanism as used for external sources that does not show. Your proposal may work and when it is accepted this proposal may be redundant. Any time frame? Sooner is better! Thanks, GerardM (talk) 16:03, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment @Vladimir Alexiev: We are creating a database actually on Google sheets. And the output would be a Wikidata table or list that would benefit Wikipedia and Wikidatans alike. It would build the website Wikipedia:Meetup/Black Lunch Table actually. It's not extra data as it is significantly contributing to Wikidata, as the crowdsourced list would be a database, in a sense, on Wikidata. It would be positive for both Wikidata as well as various initiatives on Wikipedia trying to address diversity and gender gap. Yes, it's a creative and non-traditional ID, but it is within the scope of Wikidata, I believe, and could be a super positive bridge between Wikipedia and Wikidata. More Wikipedians will have exposure to Wikidata this way -- and even possibly vice versa. I see it as a constructive helpful thing. I know that Magnus' Mix-n-Match has functionality but for separate initiatives how does that allow for granular querying? -- Erika aka BrillLyle (talk) 18:37, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Identifier[edit]

   Under discussion
Represents identifier (Q853614)
Data type External identifier
Domain any
Allowed values string. Always used with qualifier "in the scope of"m i.e. of (P642)
Example
Source dc:identifier
Motivation

This is motivated by Wikidata:Property proposal/Black Lunch Table ID and Wikidata:Property proposal/USCG number. Both of these propose external identifiers to data that is not properly modularized (doesn't have a page per entity) or doesn't add data to WD. Nevertheless the identifier is useful either to the specific project, or to track data that may become structured in the future (and the ID is already used in WP). The case of European Holocaust Research Infrastructure (Q21755493) is similar: it has some structured data (http://data.ehri-project.eu/) that however is not properly modularized (eg all ghettos in one file ehri-ghettos.rdf: this will be changing soon).

I propose to make a new prop "identifier" that will always be used with the qualifier of (P642), and perhaps a new qualifier "type". DC has dc:identifier and dct:type, so I think WD should also have similar props, but always used with qualification.

When the target project properly structures its data, the generic "identifier" can be replaced with a specific external-id prop, and the values can be transferred automatically. I hope @BrillLyle, Lymantria: will support this proposal.

Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 10:28, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

Quora (Spanish) topic ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description identifier for a topic on Quora (Spanish language version)
Data type External identifier
Allowed values strings
Example
Formatter URL https://es.quora.com/topic/$1
Motivation

We recently created Quora topic ID (P3417), for the English-language Quora. Quora also exists in Spanish. (There are no other language variants.) The values for English and Spanish versions are not the same (for the two examples given, the English equivalents are "Zinedine-Zidane-football-player" and "Cheese"). The formatter URL is also different. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:45, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Discussion
  • Symbol oppose vote oversat.svg Strong oppose The Spanish version of Quora is just a few months old, and as such it is an empty website without any relevant information for Spanish speakers. It might change after a few years, but for now it is not the case.--Micru (talk) 23:17, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
    • @Pigsonthewing, Micru:  Not done, currently no consensus for creation, as it's too soon. Feel free to repropose it.--GZWDer (talk) 15:53, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
  • Quora made the decision to be friendly. They use and link back to our items (with a straight follow link). They encourages their users to edit Wikidata.
    I'm Symbol strong support vote.svg Strong support for creating this property. ChristianKl (talk) 22:28, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
    • Quora have "been friendly" from the outset, and that is welcome; but it is not a requirement, and should not figure in our decision on whether or not to create a property. This proposal stands on its own merits. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:55, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
      • Creating propoerties is more worthwhile when they are used to good effect. ChristianKl (talk) 17:49, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose external id-datatype. Should be string
    --- Jura 17:56, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
    • Note: Quora topic ID (P3417) has datatype:external-id. Jura's proposal to delete it and recreate it with datatype:string has found no supporting consensus. The use of a formatter URL requires datatype:external-id. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:45, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
    • One key feature of "external-id" is that it causes the references to be listed at the end of an item when it's browsed in Wikidata. As most people likely don't visit an item to see it's references to Quora, it's helpful to have the data type be external ID so that it's at the end of the item along with the other identifiers. ChristianKl (talk) 07:38, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
  • It's worth noting that Quora wrote in the blockpost that they desire to be able to use Wikidata in the future to better link the topics of different languages together. That sounds like a great usecase worthy of being supported by this proposal. ChristianKl (talk) 07:32, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

EKATTE place ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description Bulgarian place ID (settlement, community=Kmetstvo, municipality=Obshtina, province=Oblast by BG National Statistical Institute (NSI)
Represents EKATTE (Q3658617)
Data type External identifier
Template parameter "екатте" in bg:Шаблон:Селище_в_България
Domain Places in Bulgaria
Allowed values string: (\d{6}|[A-Z]{3}\d{2})(-\d{2})?
Example Eg a few examples of the admin hierarchy in Kardzhali province:

More complicated around Sofia:

Source http://www.nsi.bg/nrnm/index.php?ezik=en, http://www.nsi.bg/sites/default/files/files/EKATTE/Ekatte.zip
Robot and gadget jobs http://www.nsi.bg/sites/default/files/files/EKATTE/Ekatte.zip, http://bg.dbpedia.org/sparql (see bg:Уикипедия:Разговори#ЕКАТТЕ for query)
Motivation

The official BG place register by NSI, including some 5.5k places. There's a zip file with excels, updated regularly. This property can be populated as follows:

  • As discussed at bg:Уикипедия:Разговори#ЕКАТТЕ: EKATTE is currently stored in the infoboxes, and BG WP is ready to move them to WD with a bot.
  • Should be easy to match fully to WD/Geonames because there's a full place hierarchy; Ontotext and OpenCorporates plan to do that at the end of Mar 2017 as part of a BG Trade Register datathon.

Strictly speaking EKATTE is the settlement code (eg 68134), but the Oblast/Obshtina/Kmetstvo codes (eg SOF46-00) are also in the same dataset. Share your feedback whether it's smart to keep both Settlement and Kmetstvo (community/mayorate) codes in one property. Small settlements don't have their own Kmetstvo but only Settlement code. Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 10:47, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Discussion
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support --Лорд Бъмбъри (talk) 14:04, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support --Nk (talk) 12:08, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
  • How about EKATTE place ID as the label name? ChristianKl (talk) 21:07, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
  • http://www.geonames.org/statistics/bulgaria.html shows that Geonames has complete data about BG Kmetstva (2.589 A.ADM3) and populated places (5.692 P.PPL). I bet that all of these are on WD too (if not, we'll add the missing ones). --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 20:03, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
  • I don't think "community=Kmetstvo, municipality=Obshtina, province=Oblast" is clear. Is the suggestion that all places in the database are in Kmetstvo? ChristianKl (talk) 08:23, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
    • @ChristianKl: The "equalities" above simply provide translations of these Bulgarian words. There are 5.5k places, but only 2.8k Kmetstvo: the tiniest places don't have a Kmetstvo of their own. Does that answer the question? --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 10:26, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose - given the examples, the intended usage is not clear. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:08, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
    • Hi @Pigsonthewing:, what is not clear? If you don't like mixing two sorts of numbers in one prop, I can split it to EKATTE and "BG Community code". We got the EKATTE extracted, and all BG settlements matched to Geonames, so we're waiting for this prop. --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 18:47, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
      • Well, for a start, at least three of the example items have two values each, apparently relating to different concepts. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:31, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
        • @Pigsonthewing: I explicitly asked whether you'd prefer me to split to two props. The two IDs are "id as a place" and "id as a community", but they are from the same source: BG NSI EKATTE --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 08:50, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support--Mikey641 (talk) 10:58, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Wipipedia ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description identifier of a topic, in LondonFetishScene's Fetish and BDSM Wiki
Data type External identifier
Domain different BDSM topics
Allowed values [^\s\/]+
Example Ball tie (Q4851282)Ball_tie
Source http://wipipedia.org/
Formatter URL http://wipipedia.org/index.php/$1
Motivation

Wipipedia, the wiki of the LondonFetishScene has 1,628 articles that often go in more detail than the pages Wikipedia hosts about the same subject. It seems that some pages that were deleted from Wikipedia have been moved over. JonathanKy (talk) 19:18, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Discussion
Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose not an identifier, just use described at URL (P973). Multichill (talk) 20:41, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

VIVC grape variety ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description identifier in Vitis International Variety Catalogue
Represents Vitis International Variety Catalogue (Q1561433)
Data type External identifier
Template parameter |VIVC= in de:Vorlage:Infobox Rebsorte and ru:Шаблон:Карточка сорта винограда
Domain varietal (Q958314)
Allowed values \d+
Example Riesling (Q456471)10077
Source de:Vorlage:VIVC transcludes (700+)
Planned use integrate to infoboxes and import data
Formatter URL http://www.vivc.de/datasheet/dataResult.php?data=$1
Motivation

Main external ID for grape varieties. —putnik 19:02, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Discussion
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:06, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. This looks like a great source of structured data about grape varieties.
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support--Mikey641 (talk) 10:58, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Renamed to "VIVC grape variety ID". ChristianKl (talk) 13:53, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

PACTOLS thesaurus ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description identifier in the PACTOLS thesaurus by FRANTIQ
Data type External identifier
Domain archaeology (Q23498), ancient history (Q41493)
Example fibula (Q324926)pcrt1tSmMf0Tw8
Source http://pactols.frantiq.fr/opentheso/
Formatter URL http://ark.frantiq.fr/ark:/26678/$1/
Motivation

This multilingual thesaurus is used by 40 french libraries specialized in archaeology. It's also planned to link Wikidata items to PACTOLS ID as it has been done on the example. Christelle Molinié (talk) 13:58, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Discussion
I've just linked the right URL. Thank you Andy Mabbett--Christelle Molinié (talk) 08:14, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply, I read the proposal a bit hastily...
So we seem to have two URIs for the same entry
1 ) http://ark.frantiq.fr/ark:/26678/pcrt1tSmMf0Tw8 - id: pcrt1tSmMf0Tw8 . it is provided in the "lien permanent" section
2 ) http://pactols.frantiq.fr/opentheso/?idc=14737 - id: 14737 - which seems to be where http://ark.frantiq.fr/ark:/26678/pcrt1tSmMf0Tw8 redirects.
I imagine the first is designed to be more stable, but the ID is more complicated and harder to find. What about the second one ?
Is there a page where we can get the whole list of entries in the catalogue, along with the corresponding ids ? --Zolo (talk) 13:27, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

The URI (http://ark.frantiq.fr/ark:/26678/pcrt1tSmMf0Tw8) is an ARK identifier (permanent Link), if i produce an URI like this

(http://pactols.frantiq.fr/opentheso/TH_1/14737) it's possible for you ? the (14737) will be the identifier of the concept !

i also produce an export with Skos Format like this : (http://pactols.frantiq.fr/opentheso/webresources/rest/skos/concept/id=14737&th=TH_1), we have the identifier in the balise : <dcterms:identifier>14737</dcterms:identifier> Miled Rousset
I see in the URI of AAT, it's like this : http://www.getty.edu/vow/AATFullDisplay?find=&logic=AND&note=&subjectid=300209303
I can given an URI like this without change any thing : http://pactols.frantiq.fr/opentheso/?idt=TH_1&idc=14737 Miled Rousset
Ok so, if 14737 is stable identifier for a concept, I think this is what we sould use. I have changed the proposal description accordingly. What does "TH_1" stand for ?
@Miled.rousset: A quick overview of how Wikidata works may make it clearer:
  • We store the URI pattern in just one page. For AAT, it is AAT ID (P1014).
  • In other pages, we only add the identifier, for example aat: 300037222 in fibula (Q324926). The link to the relevant AAT webpage is generated using the data stored in AAT ID (P1014).
If the URI pattern changes, we just need to update one page in Wikidata. On the other hand, the identifier itself really needs to be stable. --Zolo (talk) 12:27, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
@Zolo: "TH_1" est l'identifiant du thesaurus, si je fournis une URL comme ceci : "http://pactols.frantiq.fr/opentheso/14737", je ne pourrais pas savoir de quel thesaurus il s'agit.
Pourquoi l'utilisation du ARK n'est pas adaptée ? l'identifiant "pcrt1tSmMf0Tw8" est unique pour tous les thesaurus et pérenne dans le temps. On pourrait imaginer une URL type : "http://ark.frantiq.fr/ark:/26678/" puis l'identifiant "pcrt1tSmMf0Tw8" .
Dans tous les cas, je peux m'adapter à la solution la plus raisonnable et acceptable pour vous, je peux exporter tous les identifiants sous un format :
"14737" "fibule" "pcrt1tSmMf0Tw8" + url .... Miled
@Miled.rousset: Ok, http://pactols.frantiq.fr/opentheso/?idc=14737 semble bien lier vers la bonne notice, mais si 14737 ne suffit pas, il vaut sans doute mieux utiliser l'ark.
Sur Wikidata, on utilise généralement des identifiants courts plutôt que des URI. Le principal intérêt, je crois, est de pouvoir créer plusieurs liens différents à partir d'un identifiant unique. Par exemple, sur un site multilingue, on peut adapter le lien à la langue du site client en utilisant un seul identifiant et deux formats d'URL différents. Sur l'AAT, avec l'identifiant 300209303, on peut suivant les besoins créer un lien vers un rdf ou vers une page web jolie à lire. --Zolo (talk) 14:36, 28 March 2017 (UTC) (ce 12:24, 29 March 2017 (UTC)~)
  • Thanks Zolo for your explanations. We finally propose to use the ark URI with the long but stable identifiers like "pcrt1tSmMf0Tw8" . Miled could you please edit a list with all the terms of the thesaurus with the corresponding identifiers so that Zolo and Andy Mabbett will be able to check if it can be matched with Wikidata ? --Christelle Molinié (talk) 21:30, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
I changed the en-name to "PACTOLS thesaurus ID". Given that the property seems to have to do something with archaeology I would like the English description also to refer to archaeology. ChristianKl (talk) 07:00, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

PIM authority id[edit]

   Under discussion
Description ID for an authority record (mostly persons) in the PIM (Petőfi Literary Museum, Hungary)
Represents PIM identifier (Q29043331)
Data type External identifier
Template parameter |PIM=
Domain human (Q5)
Allowed values PIM\d+
Example
Planned use huwp, already used the old format in infoboxes, we migrate to the new URI schema + wikidata
Formatter URL http://resolver.pim.hu/auth/$1
Robot and gadget jobs Bots will sync data in multiple phases with existing [and possibly to be created] WP entries
Motivation

The Petőfi Literary Museum, Budapest‎ (Q1234343) database contains data approximately 380 000 persons in Hungarian literature. The PIM plans to offer this data for inclusion, with crosslinking between PIM and WD. --grin 13:43, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

After a discussion regarding the question of @Pigsonthewing: we agreed with the PIM that the id should be PIM+numbers; I have updated the proposal. --grin 12:08, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
@grin: Which template does the "|id=" relate to, please? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:47, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: Just question. I have updated it, and the template would be Sablon:Személy_infobox and its descendants; most probably also all its international translations. --grin 00:52, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
Discussion
  • Symbol support vote.svg SupportMáté (talk) 21:00, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. But should the ID in thee example be "PIM67655"? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:47, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
    • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment All the PIM authority id-s start with "PIM", so I would say not. It could be relevant if you look it up in anindependent lookup system, though. Are the WD entities referred by their number or with the Q as well? For me both are okay, but if there was already a reasoning about this in the past I welcome the input. --grin 00:52, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
    • This has been updated, thanks for the good question! --grin 12:08, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support--Mikey641 (talk) 10:54, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Does the "auth" stand for author or for something else? If it stands for author, can we change the name to "PIM author ID"? ChristianKl (talk) 21:45, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
    • "auth" stands for "authority", as far as I know. --grin 12:08, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Should domain "human" removed since it may contain non humans occasionally? --grin 12:14, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Can we have examples of nonhuman values and find a proper domain? ChristianKl (talk) 11:40, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
I was informed that there should be no other than Q5 in there. --grin 16:38, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

NLI NNL work ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description National Library of Israel (Q188915) (NLI) for a bibliographic record: a specific edition (Q3331189) of a book or other publications in the National Library of Israel Online Catalog (NNL).
Data type External identifier
Template parameter |NNL=
Domain book (Q571), map (Q4006), photograph (Q125191), magazine (Q41298), digital audio (Q173114)
Example
Planned use he.wiki - Template:book; he.wikisource - Template:book; Commons - Template:book
Formatter URL http://aleph.nli.org.il/F/?func=direct&con_lng=heb&local_base=nnl01&doc_number=$1
Robot and gadget jobs Will be added mostly manually
Motivation

At least every book in Hebrew have ID in the National Library of Israel and also a lot's other books. So every book in wikisource will have the ID and as well in he.wiki. Also I intend to add it to Template book in Commons in same way like OCLC control number (P243) and LCOC LCCN (bibliographic) (P1144). It can be seen in this file. NNL will be a beside with LCCN and OCLC in Authority control field.

note

There are two formatter URL's to the a record. one in Hebrew and one in English. Don't know how to add them properly:

  • For English: http://aleph.nli.org.il/F/?func=direct&con_lng=eng&local_base=nnl01&doc_number=$1
  • For Hebrew: http://aleph.nli.org.il/F/?func=direct&con_lng=heb&local_base=nnl01&doc_number=$1

Geagea (talk) 12:54, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Discussion
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. בעד, מהווה מקור חשוב מאוד לספרים בעברית. זאב קטן (talk) 15:08, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Useful especially for books in he.wikisource, but can be used elsewhere as well.--Nahum (talk) 19:32, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Certainly useful for publications. -Jeanjung212 (talk) 21:27, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Very important. Useful for books in he.wikisource, but important also independently, as a professional and credible identifier. שילוני (talk) 10:17, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support--Mikey641 (talk) 11:03, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
  • I renamed to "NLI NNL book ID". ChristianKl (talk) 08:34, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
      • Then both name and the domain definition should be changed. ChristianKl (talk) 10:07, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
      • I have changed the domain and I'll appreciate if you can help with the name.Geagea (talk)
  • @ChristianKl, Geagea: How about "work id"? I edited the label to use that. Otherwise this seems ready to me...

Digital Valencian Library ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description identifier of a person or book, in the database of the Valencian Library, the regional library in the Land of Valencia, Spain
Data type External identifier
Domain people, books
Allowed values \d+
Example Vicente Blasco Ibañez (Q219646)386
Source http://bivaldi.gva.es/en/cms/elemento.cmd?id=estaticos%2Fpaginas%2Finicio.html
Planned use Identifying Valencian authors.
Formatter URL http://bivaldi.gva.es/en/consulta_aut/registro.cmd?id=$1
Motivation

Database identifier of Valencian Library, the Regional Library in the Lander of Valencia, Spain.

It is the Regional Library, so it should be a referencial authority control for issues related to Valencia. TaronjaSatsuma (talk) 17:53, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Discussion
  • Unfortunately, the description has to be plaintext and doesn't support Wikimarkup. Otherwise Symbol support vote.svg Support. ChristianKl (talk) 21:25, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:01, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Is the formatter url for people and books the same? I think works use http://bivaldi.gva.es/en/consulta/registro.cmd?id= instead of http://bivaldi.gva.es/en/consulta_aut/registro.cmd?id=Strakhov (talk) 19:19, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
  • @TaronjaSatsuma: Can you address Strakhov concerns? Maybe we need two separate properties? ChristianKl (talk) 07:21, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
  • wrt books/editions many of them (I don't know to what extent) are probably covered by Europeana (Q234110) and Europeana ID (P727). For example, http://bivaldi.gva.es/en/consulta/registro.cmd?id=2700 ([4]) is linked in http://www.europeana.eu/portal/es/record/2022701/oai_bivaldi_gva_es_2700.html ([5]), being the value of Europeana ID (P727) 2022701/oai_bivaldi_gva_es_2700 and the book ID in BiValdi 2700. I do not have a clear position on whether it's preferable linking in Wikidata the superdatabase/digital library (with the somehow long&churrigueresque ID), the original database/digital library (and its simple ID) or both of them. Strakhov (talk) 10:56, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support author ID. Strakhov (talk) 12:48, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

INAO ID[edit]

Description identifier of a geographical indication in Institut national de l'origine et de la qualité
Data type External identifier
Domain food (Q2095)
Allowed values \d+
Example Roquefort cheese (Q189221) -> 3291
Formatter URL http://www.inao.gouv.fr/produit/$1
Motivation

This resource is already used in the reference field, notably for cheese. See the reference for Roquefort cheese (Q189221), total produced (P1092) added ny user:Pyb. I don't think a dedicated property had been proposed until now. Database updates appear to be rather patchy, but it is still a valuable resource. Zolo (talk) 15:32, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

VIGNERON (talk)
Mathieudu68 (talk)
Tpt (talk) (si besoin d'aide technique)
Ayack (talk) (surtout pour les MH)
Aga
Olivier LPB (talk)
Ash Crow (talk)
Tubezlob (talk)
PAC2 (talk)
Thierry Caro (talk)
Pymouss (talk)
Pintoch (talk)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject France. Thierry Caro (talk) 16:49, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Thierry Caro (talk) 16:49, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Good idea. Pyb (talk) 17:33, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. — Ayack (talk) 19:01, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Pymouss (talk) 19:57, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Tubezlob (🙋) 12:35, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Strakhov (talk) 08:22, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
  • The current description contains wiki-formating which isn't supported. I also don't think the current property name is descriptive enough. The proposal page is named "Inao product id", are there reasons against having product in the name ?
    Many properties retain a wikiformatted description in their talk page. For the non-formatted version, just remove the wikiformat ChristianKl (talk) 07:16, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
    • In terms of descriptiveness "product" does not add much in practice given the context where this property will be used, but I don't mind adding it. The obscure term is rather "INAO" but making it more explicit will make the label very long. --Zolo (talk) 10:42, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
  • What is the domain? ChristianKl (talk) 19:33, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
@ChristianKl: food (Q2095). --Zolo (talk) 15:50, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
@Zolo, Thierry Caro, Pyb, Ayack, Pymouss, Tubezlob:✓ Done Now INAO product ID (P3895). --Lymantria (talk) 09:02, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
@Zolo, Thierry Caro, Pyb, Ayack, Pymouss, Tubezlob: Available in Mix N'Match --Teolemon (talk) 08:57, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

National Library Board Singapore ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description Identifier of a person, organisation or place from the name authorities of National Library Board.
Data type External identifier
Domain people (Q2472587), organization (Q43229), places
Example Catherine Lim (Q5052793)gzmyZ3wowyA
Formatter URL http://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/IDDOC/NLBDM/vocab/$1
Motivation

(Add your motivation for this property here.) Nlbkos (talk) 00:40, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

@Nlbkos: Please could you add an example that is not connected to the NLBS itself? Also, is there a search page? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:30, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Example amended. Is this ok? Nlbkos (talk) 03:11, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Yes, thank you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:12, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
  1. We are not sure if we know what a search page look like. Are you able to furnish an example of a search page?
  2. Assuming we do not have a search page, will we still be able to create "National Library Board Singapore ID" as a property?

-- Nlbkos (talk) 08:55, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

I don't see that lack of a search page would prevent the creation of a property, but I am just looking for a page with a search box, something like http://socialarchive.iath.virginia.edu/snac/search Where are you finding the IDs? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:12, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
Discussion
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:38, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
  • The property proposal currently lacks a property description and a specification of it's domain and is thus not ready. ChristianKl (talk) 08:41, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

I've added the property description and specify the domain. Is this sufficient? Nlbkos (talk) 02:30, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Is there anything else that is required for this property to be created? Nlbkos (talk) 04:51, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

magazines.russ.ru ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description сайт с текстами русскоязычных литературных журналов (ru) – (Please translate this into English.)
Represents magazines.russ.ru (Q4181965)
Data type External identifier
Template parameter ru:Шаблон:ЖЗ
Domain people and magazines
Example
Source
Formatter URL * http://magazines.russ.ru/authors/$1/$1/ * http://magazines.russ.ru/$1/ – WRONG FORMAT
Robot and gadget jobs from Wikipedia
Motivation

Useful source for literature (Q8242) related articles. Krokusse (talk) 11:55, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

BDCYL author ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description identifier of an author in Biblioteca Digital de Castilla y León
Data type External identifier
Domain human (Q5)
Allowed values [1-9]\d+
Example
Source http://bibliotecadigital.jcyl.es/es/consulta/indice_campo.cmd?campo=idautor&letra=A&posicion=1
Planned use using as authority control in items here and centralising external links in Wikidata, feeding them to es.wikipedia
Formatter URL http://bibliotecadigital.jcyl.es/es/consulta_aut/registro.cmd?id=$1
Robot and gadget jobs there is a external-link-template in es.wikipedia (harvestemplates)
Motivation

Biblioteca Digital de Castilla y León (Q27383759) is a digital library managed by Biblioteca de Castilla y León (Q24237950), a Spanish library created by the Junta of Castile and León (Q3314606). It hosts 18.985 digitalised open access works (in 2017), most of them books (edition item), but including periodicals, articles or manuscripts too. This proposal is focused in an author identifier property, linking with it "Obras como autor" (works as author), "Obras sobre este tema" (work on this guy), "Obras en las que participa" (works he/she collaborated in), "Todas las obras relacionadas" (all related works). Some items include description, authority identifiers and more data and links too. It would be used immediately in es.wikipedia authority templates. Strakhov (talk) 20:17, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

DACS identification code[edit]

   Under discussion
Description Code to identify 50,000 artists as members of the British collective rights management organisation DACS and sister organisations worldwide
Represents [[d:Design and Artists Copyright Society (Q3705963)|no label]] (Design and Artists Copyright Society (Q3705963))
Data type External identifier
Domain artists
Allowed values \d{1,7}
Example
Planned use adding DACS code of artists in museums, it makes the copyright status accessible, and compare those information with sister organisations, this database keeps also track of artists not fully represented
Formatter URL https://www.dacs.org.uk/licensing-works/artist-search/artist-details?ArtistId=$1
See also PictoRight ID code (P3361)
Motivation

With this museums and the general public can check of a wikidata-item if the copyright of an artist is handled by a collective rights management organisation in the UK. As DACS is also tracking artists worldwide we can verify the values with other national collective rights management organisations Hannolans (talk) 06:41, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Discussion
  • Is the DACS number stable? There was a DACS catalogue on Mix'n'Match that had a lot of matches that became useless because the numbers all changed. Jheald (talk) 12:58, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
    • Good question and was not aware of the mix n match issue. They call it 'ArtistId' in the URL so I assume this is a stable id. If it is not stable, at least we have the members mapped, and can remap them if they change the ids or link to the Internat Archive--Hannolans (talk) 19:07, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
      • @Jheald: which set? Any links? Maybe someone can contact them to check this? Multichill (talk) 19:01, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
        • @Multichill, Hannolans: It was the "Picto-DACS" catalogue on Mix'n'match. Here's the thread where I notified the issue to Magnus, which will give the rough date that the previously matched values ceased to work. Jheald (talk) 19:32, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
        • * Those ids were not the DACS-ids but data with DACS and PictoRight names in it from Sweden if I'm right. We now have better sources and a tool to match those names to the ids. --Hannolans (talk) 15:35, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
          • Well Mix'n'match resolved the numerical ID all right to a page with the artist's name on the DACS website... the trouble was that after a few months the same number resolved to a different artist's name there. Jheald (talk) 19:25, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
            • Good catch. All pages were indexed by Internet Archive. Compare artistid 71710:
  • https://web.archive.org/web/20151231211607/http://www.dacs.org.uk/licensing-works/artist-search/artist-details.aspx?ArtistId=71710
  • http://www.dacs.org.uk/licensing-works/artist-search/artist-details.aspx?ArtistId=71710

while the website look similar, the artists are different. --Hannolans (talk) 21:37, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

    • I'm very curious about this, did they upgrade the database system, or is this system altering the ids once in a while?--Hannolans (talk) 13:37, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

ADAGP artist ID[edit]

Description identifier for an artist as a member of the French collective rights management organisation ADAGP and sister organisations worldwide
Represents [[d:Société des auteurs dans les arts graphiques et plastiques (Q3488108)|no label]] (Société des auteurs dans les arts graphiques et plastiques (Q3488108))
Data type External identifier
Domain artists
Allowed values \d{1,7}
Example
Planned use adding ADAGP code of artists in museums, it makes the copyright status accessible, and compare those information with sister organisations, this database keeps also track of artists not fully represented
Formatter URL http://www.adagp.fr/en/identities/$1
See also PictoRight ID code (P3361)
Motivation

With this museums and the general public can check of a wikidata-item if the copyright of an artist is handled by a collective rights management organisation in France. As ADAGP is also tracking artists worldwide we can verify the values with other national collective rights management organisations Hannolans (talk) 06:41, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

olimpbase player ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description identifier for players at www.olimpbase.org who take part in chess olympiad
Data type External identifier
Template parameter Template:Chess Links (Q14339495)
Domain human (Q5)
Allowed values [a-z0-9]+
Example Garry Kasparov (Q28614)ssimw2af
Formatter URL http://www.olimpbase.org/players/$1.html
Motivation

This is a great amount of statistics about chess players. Volcanus (talk) 10:48, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

Wesalius Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Chess. -- Volcanus (talk) 20:24, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support --Edgars2007 (talk) 15:25, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:26, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg SupportWesalius (talk) 17:09, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
  • I changed the name to "olimpbase player ID". ChristianKl (talk) 10:04, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting info.svg Info Olimpbase has to different player profiles. The one above is that for Chess Olympiads, but there exist also for the Elo ratings, e.g. for Gary Kasparov. This should be distiguished. Steak (talk) 10:54, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Medium username[edit]

Description username of the Medium account of a person or an organization
Represents Medium (Q16186120)
Data type External identifier
Allowed values [A-Za-z0-9_\.]{1,30}
Example Emmanuel Macron (Q3052772)EmmanuelMacron
Source https://medium.com/
Formatter URL https://medium.com/@$1
Motivation

An increasing number of people and organization has a Medium account. Tubezlob (🙋) 13:19, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

Base biographique AUTOR ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description notice of a personality linked to the funds of the Mediatheque of Architecture and Heritage (France)
Represents Base Autor (Q29388258)
Data type External identifier
Domain human (Q5)
Allowed values AW[0-9]{5}
Example Roger Corbeau (Q3438834)AW00086
Source http://www.culture.gouv.fr/documentation/autor/
Formatter URL http://www.culture.gouv.fr/public/mistral/autor_fr?ACTION=CHERCHER&FIELD_98=REF&VALUE_98=$1
Motivation

Official database of the Ministry of Culture (Q384602). Tubezlob (🙋) 09:07, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

VIGNERON (talk)
Mathieudu68 (talk)
Tpt (talk) (si besoin d'aide technique)
Ayack (talk) (surtout pour les MH)
Aga
Olivier LPB (talk)
Ash Crow (talk)
Tubezlob (talk)
PAC2 (talk)
Thierry Caro (talk)
Pymouss (talk)
Pintoch (talk)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject France

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Thierry Caro (talk) 10:12, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support, though I think a more precise name is needed. Maybe Mediatheque of Architecture and Heritage autor ID?. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:34, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support --Pymouss (talk) 12:40, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose For the current name. The name User:Pigsonthewingj would work but is long. Maybe "base biographique AUTOR ID" is we want a short name. ChristianKl (talk) 17:12, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
    • @ChristianKl: Is the problem with the word Autor in German (and author (P50))? Tubezlob (🙋) 19:02, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
      • I generally oppose names for authority control that don't give most readers an impression what the property is about. ChristianKl (talk) 10:10, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg SupportAyack (talk) 19:07, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment The name proposed is a big issue. In Spanish the word "autor" is for any person who creates an original work. For that reason anyone who types "autor" as property may think that's for a kind of universal author ID. I think that the better option is call it Base biografique AUTOR ID or even Base AUTOR ID (the capital letters can help to prevent any confusion). --Mr. Moonlight (talk) 23:47, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
  • I renamed it into Base biografique AUTOR ID. ChristianKl (talk) 08:08, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

RANM member ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description identifier of a member of the Spanish Royal Academy of Medicine
Data type External identifier
Domain human (Q5)
Allowed values [1-9]\d+
Example Santiago Ramón y Cajal (Q150526)957
Source http://www.ranm.es/academicos.html
Formatter URL http://www.ranm.es/academicos/$1
Motivation

Identificador de los miembros de la Real Academia Nacional de Medicina (Q2134665) (España) desde 1861. Gerwoman (talk) 09:09, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

Latvian Protected Nature Territory code[edit]

   Under discussion
Represents Latvian Specially Protected Nature Territories (Q16362115)
Data type External identifier
Domain protected area (Q473972)
Example Daugava near Kaibala (Q28466010) → LV0527200
Source external reference (http://ozols.daba.gov.lv/pub/)
Motivation

It is official external identifier for nature reserves in Latvia. Currently there are more than 800 Specially Protected Nature Territories in Latvia. --Voll (talk) 09:15, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Discussion
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support --GreenZeb (talk) 10:19, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support, needed for our project with protected nature territories. --Papuass (talk) 11:31, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support, per Papuass. --Edgars2007 (talk) 12:49, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Latvian Protected Nature Territory URL[edit]

   Under discussion
Represents Latvian Specially Protected Nature Territories (Q16362115)
Data type URL
Domain protected area (Q473972)
Example Daugava near Kaibala (Q28466010)https://daba.gov.lv/public/lat/iadt/dabas_liegumi/daugava_pie_kaibalas/
Source https://www.daba.gov.lv/public/eng/about_us/
See also Wikidata:Property proposal/Latvian Protected Nature Territory code
Motivation

It is official information pages about Latvian Protected Nature Territories from Nature Conservation Agency (governmental agency). Currently there are more than 800 Specially Protected Nature Territories in Latvia. --Voll (talk) 09:32, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Discussion
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support --GreenZeb (talk) 10:20, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support, needed for our project with protected nature territories. --Papuass (talk) 11:30, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Question: Could this not use the exeternal ID datatype, with a value, for the example, of daugava_pie_kaibalas? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:30, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
Unfortunately agency doesn't use flat URLs. They have for example:
IMHO URL type will be better. --Voll (talk) 19:45, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support, per Papuass. --Edgars2007 (talk) 12:48, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

CETS no.[edit]

   Under discussion
Description Council of Europe treaty number
Represents Council of Europe treaty (Q16567729)
Data type External identifier
Allowed values [0-9]{3}
Example European Landscape Convention (Q1378142)176
Source https://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list
Formatter URL https://www.coe.int/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/treaty/$1
Motivation

The CETS number provides a unique identifier for Council of Europe treaties across different languages. 1-Byte (talk) 15:14, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Discussion
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:35, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure when it comes to the name of the property. Why CETS? The trival way of abbreviating Council of Europe would be "COE". Googling CETS doesn't bring up anything related to this identifier, so I'm not sure where that abbreviation is coming from. The fact that the website is named "COE", also suggest that they believe they are abbreviated that way. Is there prior art of how the number gets called when other websites refer to it? The standard way we name similar properties would suggest "COE treaty ID" or "Council of Europe treaty ID". I think I would prefer "Council of Europe treaty ID" in this case given that it's short enough. ChristianKl (talk) 15:16, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
  • When I look at the website some numbers contain letters, this suggests the allowed values statement should be broader. ChristianKl (talk) 15:18, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
  • The subtext under the page says: "Convention(s) and Agreement(s) opened to the member States of the Council of Europe and, where appropriate, to the : E.: European non member States – N.:Non European non member States – U.: European Union. See the final provisions of each treaty." Can we condense that information into the property description? ChristianKl (talk) 15:19, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Boijmans artistId[edit]

Description identifier for an artist in the Dutch museum for modern art Boijmans van Beuningen in Rotterdam
Data type External identifier
Domain artists
Allowed values \d+
Example
Source http://collectie.boijmans.nl/maker
Planned use access to the artists information of this museum.
Formatter URL http://collectie.boijmans.nl/maker/$1
Motivation

Direct access to all artists of this museum, artworks and background information. . Asked the museum and the ids are persistent. --Hannolans (talk) 18:47, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

CONICET person ID[edit]

Description identifier for a researcher, scholar or support personnel at National Scientific and Technical Research Council (Argentina)
Data type External identifier
Domain people (researchers, scholars and support personnel) active in Argentina
Allowed values \d+
Example Diego Golombek (Q8470945)20118
Formatter URL http://www.conicet.gov.ar/new_scp/detalle.php?id=$1&datos_academicos=yes
Motivation

DB from the major research institute in Argentina Mr. Moonlight (talk) 20:01, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

STW Thesaurus for Economics ID[edit]

   Ready <create>
Description identifier for a descriptor of the STW Thesaurus for Economics
Represents STW Thesaurus for Economics (Q26903352)
Data type External identifier
Domain Mainly economics and business administration
Example financial crisis (Q114380)19664-4 Financial crisis

Activity-based costing (Q754331)19100-1 Activity-based costing

Computable general equilibrium (Q3589458)29879-5 CGE model
Source http://zbw.eu/stw
Planned use Mapping of STW Thesaurus for Economics descriptors to Wikidata
Formatter URL http://zbw.eu/stw/descriptor/$1
Motivation

The STW is maintained and published by ZBW German National Library of Economics (Q317179) under an open license. ZBW also publishes mappings to DBpedia and other vocabularies. The outdated DBpedia mapping would better be based on Wikidata, where it can be updated by ZBW staff as well as by others. On the STW site, the mapping is used to display links to the German and English Wikipedia. For Wikidata, links to STW could add value 1) by linking to the subject specific structure and category system of STW, and 2) by further links on the descriptor pages to the EconBiz (EB) portal for economics literature, which particularly provides access to topic-specific open access publications. Jneubert (talk) 09:56, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Discussion
Symbol support vote.svg Support I think wikidata is an excellent place to encourage interlinking of thesauri and other controlled vocabularies, let's get more of these in. ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:45, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support STW Thesaurus is available and linked with other authority files so there is already mapping data to build on. -- JakobVoss (talk) 13:46, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

GuideStar Israel organization ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description ID in the israeli organizations database
Represents GuideStar (Q5615419)
Data type External identifier
Template parameter "1" in he:תבנית:גיידסטאר
Allowed values \d+
Example AOPA Israel (Q6952627)580033876
Planned use add the IDs to wikidata
Formatter URL http://www.guidestar.org.il/en/organization/$1
Motivation

Adding the IDs to wikidata Mikey641 (talk) 17:15, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

Ishim ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description ID in the israeli cinema, television and radio database
Represents Ishim (Q16131546)
Data type External identifier
Template parameter "1" in he:תבנית:אישים
Example Naomi Shemer (Q238719)נעמי שמר
Planned use Add the data to wikidata
Formatter URL http://www.ishim.co.il/m.php?s=$1
Motivation

Add the data to wikidata Mikey641 (talk) 17:26, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

UNESCO Thesaurus ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description Identifier for a concept in the UNESCO Thesaurus
Represents UNESCO Thesaurus (Q2467479)
Data type External identifier
Allowed values (It seems all values are of the form concept4831)
Example censorship (Q543)concept4831
Source http://vocabularies.unesco.org/browser/thesaurus/en/
Planned use Add the thesaurus to Mix'n'Match based on download in SKOS RDF/XML format from http://vocabularies.unesco.org/browser/thesaurus/en/ so that we can start matching
Formatter URL http://vocabularies.unesco.org/thesaurus/$1
Robot and gadget jobs Mix'n'Match
Motivation

Lots of very useful high-level, culture-related terminology. Spinster 💬 08:41, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Discussion
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support - I assume you want the identifier to be the "concept4831" part, not the full URL? I've adjusted the example to reflect this. Please fix if this is not the intention! ArthurPSmith (talk) 13:43, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support - Jneubert (talk) 10:50, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Répertoire national des associations identifier[edit]

   Under discussion
Description Identifier of a French non-profit in the Répertoire national des associations
Represents Répertoire national des associations (Q27136690)
Data type External identifier
Domain association under the French law of 1901 (Q11513034)
Allowed values W[0-9]{9}
Example Commission for Independent Research and Information on Radioactivity (Q1115606) → W263000264
Source http://www.data.gouv.fr/fr/datasets/repertoire-national-des-associations-rna/
Motivation

This identifier is the official one for French non-profit organizations used by the French administration. I was recently published as part of the open data initiative of the country. Ash Crow (talk) 14:49, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

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Directorio Grierson ID[edit]

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Description ID for argentinian scientists and researchers from the Directorio de científicos argentinos Dra. Grierson
Represents no label (Q29433586)
Data type External identifier
Domain argentinian scientists, researchers, scholars from 1810 to nowdays
Allowed values \d+
Example Luis Federico Leloir (Q233985)23621
Source http://www.caicyt-conicet.gov.ar/cientificos/
Formatter URL http://www.caicyt-conicet.gov.ar/cientificos/items/show/$1
See also es:Directorio de científicos argentinos Dra. Grierson
Motivation

Comprehensive database for science related field people from Argentina since 1810 to present times. It's runned and developed by National Scientific and Technical Research Council (Q6978293), major research council in the country. Mr. Moonlight (talk) 23:09, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

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Vitaskrá ID[edit]

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Description identifier of an Icelandic lighthouse or beacon in Vitaskrá, a list of lights by the Icelandic Coast Guard
Represents Vitaskrá (Q29562346)
Data type External identifier
Domain sea mark (Q7321258)
Allowed values [1-9]\d*
Example Kópasker Lighthouse (Q3378290) → 184
Source http://www.lhg.is/media/sjomaelingar_islands/Vitaskra_010616_vefutg.pdf
Motivation

This List of lights (Q843152) contains the Icelandic lighthouses and beacons with additional info such as light characteristic, range, focal height, structure height and coordinates. It is used/mentioned in enwiki as "country number" in Template:Infobox lighthouse (Q13384512) for Icelandic lighthouses (with prefix "VIT-"), although not many times. A better idea of potential use is seen at Wikidata:WikiProject Lighthouses/lists/lighthouses by country/Iceland - I intend to eventually add the codes to all of those lighthouse items. Lymantria (talk) 08:39, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

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Canadian Coastguard Lighthouse ID[edit]

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Description identifier of a Canadian lighthouse or beacon in the Canadian Coast Guard List of Lights, Buoys and Fog Signals
Represents no label (Q2833062)
Data type External identifier
Template parameter |canada= in en:Infobox lighthouse (Q13384512)
Domain sea mark (Q7321258)
Allowed values [1-9]\d*
Example Île-Verte Lighthouse (Q3378454) → 1761
Source https://www.notmar.gc.ca/list-livre-en.php (English) and http://www.notmar.gc.ca/list-livre-fr.php (French)
Motivation

This no label (Q2833062) contains the Canadian lighthouses, buoys and beacons with additional info such as light characteristic, range, focal height, structure height and coordinates. It is used in enwiki Template:Infobox lighthouse (Q13384512). Lymantria (talk) 10:49, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

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