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Flora del Cono Sur Darwinion ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifier for plant taxon, in the Darwinion Southern Cone Flora (Flora del Cono Sur Darwinion)
Representstaxon (Q16521)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainplant taxa
Allowed values[1-9]/d*
Example 1= 188572
Example 2= 1326
Example 3Aa hieronymi (Q15586669) = 23892
Sourcehttp://www.darwin.edu.ar/proyectos/floraargentina/fa.htm
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned useuse it as an authority control to identify plants (taxon) of the Southern Cone, and add relevant information for those taxons, including images
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttp://www.darwin.edu.ar/Proyectos/FloraArgentina/DetalleEspecie.asp?espcod=$1

Motivation[edit]

alias = Darwinion Southern Cone Flora ID

The "Flora del Cono Sur" it's a catalog made by the Darwinion Institute of Botany from Argentina. It's a very comprehensive catalog with more than 10,000 taxons identified in their database. They have persistent URLs with a code at the end of URL that allow for identification. They are a reliable and trustworthy source of information. Importantly enough, they provide very valuable regional data that is hard to find in other types of databases, since this is a regional one that only catalogs plants from Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay and Brazil. This will allow for more refined searches inside Wikidata that will allow us to create more focused articles and find more relevant images with a geographical criteria. Scann (talk) 15:34, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

@Scann: Please provide the QIDs matching the three example links you give above. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:38, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the assistance @Pigsonthewing. I've removed support until this is resolved but will be contacting @Scann to assist if I can. Ambrosia10 (talk) 22:56, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: we're having some issues with the external URLs for now, so we're looking into it. Apparently if you leave the link like this one 188572 it doesn't retrieve the species/genre, even when it still acts like an unique identifier. The first ones don't have a Wikidata item, I still need a few days to create them. --Scann (talk) 16:41, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Yup totally reasonable @Pigsonthewing:. I'll try to see if there's a way to work around this and let you know when that happens. Thanks! --Scann (talk) 23:36, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

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7digital United Kingdom artist ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifier for an artist on 7digital United Kingdom music site
Represents7digital United Kingdom (Q64556123)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman (Q5)
Example 1Basshunter (Q383541)basshunter
Example 2Stromae (Q313453)stromae
Example 3Sean Paul (Q200577)sean-paul
Sourcehttps://uk.7digital.com
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned usePutting value to musical artists available from the 7digital United Kingdom site.
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://uk.7digital.com/artist/$1
See alsoKKBox artist ID (P5154)

Motivation[edit]

Missing property. Other properties needed include 7digital United Kingdom release ID or 7digital Sverige artist ID. Eurohunter (talk) 15:51, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support David (talk) 07:03, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Is there a way to make the 7digital identifiers region-independent, or does each regional site have its own distinct identifiers for the same artists? Mahir256 (talk) 23:56, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
    • @Mahir256: It's like iTunes. Every country has their independent releases but with the same id. So as I said in motivation I think we need to have separate id for 7digital United Kingdom, 7digital Sverige, 7digital Deutschalnd, 7digital France, 7digital Italia etc. to distinguish se. uk. de. fr. it. in url. In addition iTunes on Wikidata need separate id for other countries like Sweden and UK because it has only US version of url so I never make it to work to add other versions like Swedish or British versions of iTunes. Eurohunter (talk) 07:35, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
If they have the same ID, then we should have only one property. You can set several formatter URL's with qualifiers (not that the UI understands this, but it's at least human-interpretable) or use the third-party formatter URL property if that makes more sense. ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:30, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
@ArthurPSmith: Can you show example? Eurohunter (talk) 18:34, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
The properties listed here are ones where the third-party formatter URL is used, for example Library of Congress authority ID (P244). Tennis Temple player ID (P4544) is an example of a property with different formatter URL's for different languages. ArthurPSmith (talk) 20:10, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
@ArthurPSmith: But there is no example for French version at Tennis Temple player ID. Eurohunter (talk) 20:14, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
@Eurohunter: ArthurPSmith is right, we could make only one property with different formatter URL's for different languages. Even no need use third-party formatter URL property. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 06:54, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
@ZI Jony: Can you show example? Eurohunter (talk) 14:48, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
@ArthurPSmith: could you link an example of how to use qualified formatter URL's and I'll update this one. --Ysangkok (talk) 01:43, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
@Ysangkok: I'm not sure what you're asking for, but Tennis Temple player ID (P4544) seemed to me like an example you could follow for this. ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:47, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment I would agree that instead of various regional properties this can just be one property with multiple formatter URLs qualified by region/language. Would support this proposal if it was updated as such. --SilentSpike (talk) 15:27, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

MIC market code[edit]

DescriptionISO 10383 market identifier code. Aliases: MIC, ISO 10383 market code
RepresentsMarket Identifier Code (Q6770697)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainstock market (Q475000) or stock exchange (Q11691) (for the main market operated by the exchange)
Allowed values[A-Z0-9]{4}
Example 1Bulgarian Stock Exchange - SME Growth Market Beam (Q69322780) -> GBUL
Example 2Bulgarian Stock Exchange - Approved Publication Arrangement (Q69324839) -> PBUL
Example 3Bulgarian Stock Exchange (Sofia) (Q1003968) -> XBUL
Example 4Winnipeg Commodity Exchange (Q8025740) -> IFCA
Example 5NASDAQ Global Select Market (Q69336177) -> XNGS
Example 6NASDAQ (Q82059) -> XNAS
Sourcehttps://www.iso20022.org/10383/iso-10383-market-identifier-codes
Formatter URLhttp://www.iotafinance.com/en/Detail-view-MIC-code-$1.html
Robot and gadget jobsEasy to import the ISO 10383 excel, but first need to decide the scope of market/exchange
See alsoOperating MIC

Motivation[edit]

Good for linking and cross references with other databases. Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 19:42, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 19:42, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support two separate properties for "MIC market code" and "MIC exchange code". - PKM (talk) 20:33, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

MIC exchange code[edit]

   Under discussion
DescriptionISO 10383 stock exchange code for a financial market. The main market operated by the exchange often uses the same MIC. Aliases: Operating MIC, ISO 10383 exchange code.
RepresentsMarket Identifier Code (Q6770697)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainstock exchange (Q11691)
Allowed values[A-Z0-9]{4}
Example 1Bulgarian Stock Exchange - SME Growth Market Beam (Q69322780) -> XBUL
Example 2Bulgarian Stock Exchange - Approved Publication Arrangement (Q69324839) -> XBUL
Example 3Bulgarian Stock Exchange (Sofia) (Q1003968) -> XBUL
Example 4Winnipeg Commodity Exchange (Q8025740) -> IFCA
Example 5NASDAQ Global Select Market (Q69336177) -> XNAS
Example 6NASDAQ (Q82059) -> XNAS
Sourcehttps://www.iso20022.org/10383/iso-10383-market-identifier-codes
Formatter URLhttp://www.iotafinance.com/en/Overview-operating-MIC-code-$1.html
Robot and gadget jobsEasy to import the ISO 10383 excel, but first need to decide the scope of market/exchange
See alsoMIC

Motivation[edit]

Franzsimon Kopiersperre Jklamo ArthurPSmith S.K. Givegivetake fnielsen rjlabs ChristianKl Vladimir Alexiev User:Pintoch Parikan User:Cardinha00 User:zuphilip MB-one User:Simonmarch User:Jneubert Mathieudu68 User:Kippelboy User:Datawiki30 User:PKM User:RollTide882071 Kristbaum Andber08 Sidpark SilentSpike Susanna Ånäs (Susannaanas) User:Johanricher


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Datasets such as Crunchbase (Q10846831), Thomson Reuters Open Perm ID (Q69297407), S&P Capital IQ (Q4035851) include public company stock info including ticker (symbol) and exchange code. Eg

To connect this info to stock exchanges, we first need to have exchange codes.

  • TR permid has TR exchange code (eg BGR, NSM) and MIC (eg XBUL, XNGS)
    • For the individual ticker it has ticker (eg SKK, BIDU) and RIC (eg SKK.BB, BIDU.OQ)
  • CrunchBase uses different codes, eg NASDAQ, NYSE, LON.
  • Google Finance works with the CB codes, eg NASDAQ:BIDU, LON:LGRS. It even works with alternative codes, eg LSE:LGRS

MIC ISO 10383[edit]

Nevertheless, I think we should start with Market Identifier Code (Q6770697), which is international standard ISO 10383 "Codes for exchanges and market identification". Unlike most ISO standards, this one is available free of charge at https://www.iso20022.org/10383/iso-10383-market-identifier-codes .

The information is available in:

  • XLS: sheets MIC by country, MIC by CC (country code), MIC by MIC, Additions, Modifications, Deactivations, Monthly updates (since last month), Deactivated MICs
  • CSV
  • XML
  • PDF and a PDF annex (updates since last month's publication).

Markets: 1902 active (US: 305)

Fields:

  • COUNTRY
  • ISO COUNTRY CODE (ISO 3166): `ZZ` means "not applicable" (eg OFF-EXCHANGE TRANSACTIONS - LISTED AND UNLISTED INSTRUMENTS, NO MARKET (E.G. UNLISTED))
  • MIC: lower-level MIC. 1902, all unique
  • OPERATING MIC: higher-level MIC. 1085 values (full coverage). Most populous: XSTO (NASDAQ Sweden/Stockholm: 25 markets), XNAS (NASDAQ US: 18 markets). Distribution:
    count     markets
     819       1 
     104       2 
      54       3 
      35       4 
      17       5 
      16       6 
      11       7 
       7       8 
       6       9 
       7      10 
       3      11 
       1      13 
       1      14 
       1      15 
       2      18 
       1      25 
  • O/S: 1085 "o" for the primary or only market of an exchange (the two MIC codes coincide), 817 "s" for other markets
  • NAME-INSTITUTION DESCRIPTION
  • ACRONYM: 1163 missing, 611 values, a few misspellings (`CBOE EUROPE` with 1 or 2 spaces). Distribution:
    count     markets
     553       1 
      40       2 
      16       3 
       4       4 
       2       5 
       1       6 
       1       7 
       1       8 
       1      12 
  • CITY. Some misspellings, eg: BERN vs BERNE (CH), KIEV vs KYIV (UA), PORT VILA vs VILA (VU). Some not normalized values, eg WASHINGTON vs WASHINGTON/NEW YORK.
  • WEBSITE.
  • STATUS DATE
  • STATUS: ACTIVE, MODIFIED (inactive MIC are in a separate sheet)
  • CREATION DATE
  • COMMENTS: various nature:
    • description (ELECTRONIC BLOCK TRADING PLATFORM FOR EQUITIES),
    • corporate mergers (MERGER BETWEEN XASX AND XSFE),
    • technical news (ASX LAUNCHED VOLUMEMATCH IN JUNE 2011, AN ASX TRADE EXECUTION FACILITY THAT ENABLES END USERS TO SEARCH FOR LIQUIDITY AND EXECUTE LARGE ORDERS ANONYMOUSLY)

Iota Finance[edit]

http://www.iotafinance.com/en/ISO-10383-Market-Identification-Codes-MIC.html

This site has a useful reference of ISO 10383 MIC codes. It is up to date (Publication date : 10-09-2019), and has 2079 entries because it includes INACTIVE entries.

It has individual pages for each Operating MIC and MIC, so I've used it as Formatter URL. Eg:

Refinitiv (TR) tables[edit]

I googled `thomson reuters "mic"` and struck gold: on the page https://community.developers.refinitiv.com/questions/25624/getting-ric-from-isin-and-mic.html I found several lists of exchanges and their related organizations and codes.

In addition to ISO 10383, this has two Excel mapping tables:

mic-to-exchange-table-may-2017[edit]

https://community.developers.refinitiv.com/storage/attachments/2007-mic-to-exchange-table-may-2017.zip

This maps ISO 10383 MIC codes to TR exchange codes, eg XNGS -> NSM (NASDAQ Global Select market).

mifid-basic-venue-20180308[edit]

https://community.developers.refinitiv.com/storage/attachments/2046-mifid-basic-venue-20180308.zip

Markets (exchanges): 1653 (US: 274). This complements ISO 10383 MIC codes with extra information, eg market type, market category, whether it is regulated, who is the regulatory authority, trading venue classification, and SI asset classes (TODO what is SI?)

Fields:

  • `Market_Attributable_Source_Perm_ID`: unique. not available on permid.org (neither 1- nor 2-)
  • `Market_Type`: BBD DV ETP IDB NETP RA SP. TODO what do the codes mean? I made a pivot
  • `Market_Category`: PLT REG SBD TSC TSG (blank: 865 of 1653). TODO what do the codes mean? I made a pivot
  • `Market_Name`: mostly unique (only INSTINET BLOCKCROSS ATS is duplicated: regulated vs unregulated)
  • `MiFID_Regulated_Flag`: whether is regulated: 719 N, 934 Y
  • `Market_Location`: country (ZZ means none)
  • `Operating_MIC`: MIC code, eg BULGARIAN STOCK EXCHANGE is XBUL, NEW YORK STOCK EXCHANGE, INC. is XNYS
  • `Market_Segment_MIC`: a more fine-grained version of `Operating_MIC`. Eg BULGARIAN STOCK EXCHANGE, BULGARIAN STOCK EXCHANGE - ALTERNATIVE MARKET, BULGARIAN STOCK EXCHANGE - INTERNATIONAL INSTRUMENTS all have the same `Operating_MIC` (XBUL), but different `Market_Segment_MIC` (XBUL, ABUL, IBUL)
  • `MIC_Created_Date`: ddddmmyy
  • `Operating_Entity_Org_Perm_ID`: 532 empty or N/A, 633 unique. Most populous is https://permid.org/1-4298007875 TP ICAP PLC, which operates 40 exchanges in Europe (eg TULLET PREBON EUROPE - OTF * MADRID - CORPORATE BONDS AND SECURITISED DEBT). Sometimes works (eg https://permid.org/1-8589934165 New York Stock Exchange LLC is operator of NYSE DARK), sometimes not (eg https://permid.org/1-5000365450 NEW YORK STOCK EXCHANGE, INC returns no data)
  • `Operating_Entity_LEI`: 1182 empty or N/A, 107 unique, 26 used twice. The most populous is [213800ZMKPUV1VKLCT69](https://search.gleif.org/#/record/213800ZMKPUV1VKLCT69) MTS S.P.A. (MTS Italia) with 27 exchanges in GB, named after different European countries
  • `MiFID_Trading_Venue_Classification`: 1001 empty, MTF, RM, SI, OTF; RMLMTF, APA:ARM, APA
  • `Exchange_Code`: 1233 empty, 259 unique. Most populous are MIL (11, all IT), ISD (7, all GB), OTC (6, all US)
  • `Regulatory_Authority_Perm_ID`: 66 empty, Most populous: https://permid.org/1-8589934357 GB Financial Conduct Authority regulates 324 exchanges, https://permid.org/1-5000007215 US Commodity Futures Trading Commission regulates 225. The 2-3 that I tried resolve ok
  • `Regulatory_Authority_Name`: corresponds to `Regulatory_Authority_Perm_ID`
  • `Is_'SI'_In`: 1596 empty, the others have a combination of these flags: BOND CRFT DERV DPRS EMAL ETCS ETFS ETNS OTHR SDRV SFPS SHRS
  • `SI_Asset_class_Start_Date`
  • `SI_Asset_class_End_Date`
  • `MIFID_Third_Country_Equivalence`: 1543 empty, 57 3CDT, 50 3CTO
  • `MIC_Last_Update_Date`: ddddmmyy
  • `Action`: 1577 empty (create), 55 D, 21 U

Exchange vs Market[edit]

I think that the difference between stock exchange (Q11691) and stock market (Q475000) is not very clear. The proposal above is written on the assumption that an exchange (Operating MIC) may operate several markets (MIC). As always, things in the real world are complex: successful exchanges spawn in new countries, buy other exchanges, create a variety of products (markets) to diversify their activity, etc.

If you don't think that's true, please comment. Furthermore, ISO's distinction between (market) MIC and (exchange) operating MIC is not very useful and may confuse people. The formatter URL resolves no matter which URL template is used, eg:

After voting for the two MIC codes, I may make proposals for TR, CrunchBase and Google Finance exchange codes. Another option is to have a universal prop "exchange code" with some qualifier (eg "catalog"? that's not quite appropriate). Please comment.

Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 15:02, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support both David (talk) 15:25, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support both, would be very useful Niko.georgiev (talk) 15:56, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks folks, but I'd also like to see some discussion whether we need to capture the two MIC levels in two different props. I tend to think one prop is enough --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 10:38, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

I think two properties would be better, seeing an item that has two values on an authority control property that takes you to two different pages with different info would be confusing. The two URLs for NASDAQ above may resolve (although they still don't resolve correctly: the second URL doesn't return as much info as the operating MIC url), but the IDs for Bulgarian Stock Exchange (XBUL) are the same for both, so you have to have the different url formattings on the property to get both the MIC and the operating MIC? So since the codes can be the same for both MICs maybe thats enough of a reason to have two properties instead of one. Niko.georgiev (talk) 09:34, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support for a single one, if the values are identical − Pintoch (talk) 17:25, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support But for a sake of clarity I recommend to use MIC exchange code only for exchanges items (not on market items) as well as use MIC market code only on market items (or maybe also to exchanges if they have only one market). And of course to create new items for missing markets.--Jklamo (talk) 13:40, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support two separate properties for "MIC market code" and "MIC exchange code". - PKM (talk) 20:32, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Reminder about MIC codes[edit]

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Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Companies Any comments? I got enough supporters for this proposal, but would like to solicit wider comment

@Jura1, Pintoch, ChristianKl: This proposal has garnered only Support votes and has been sitting for quite a while. Could you please create the 2 props above? --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 13:15, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

  • @Vladimir Alexiev: The property isn't ready. Someone wrote things in the description field that aren't descriptions and the description doesn't tell me what MIC means. Once the property is ready the next step is to set "status = ready" which can be done by everyone. Afterwards the property appears in the list of ready properties for the property creators to check if it's indeed ready so that they can create it. ChristianKl❫ 13:24, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment @Vladimir Alexiev: I don't think the second property qualifies as an external identifier as the same value applies for many different items, at least from your examples. That is, it's not an identifier for the market, it identifies the exchange the market is on, if I understand correctly? It would be better to have it apply exclusively on the exchanges as a real identifier, and use a separate item-valued property to link market and exchange, if that makes sense. ArthurPSmith (talk) 13:35, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
    • "use item-valued property to link market and exchange" makes sense, however we have very few Markets on WD (as opposed to Exchanges), and markets evolve quickly in time (they are after all, marketing devices for the exchanges to sell their services, so I don't know who'd be willing to create them and maintain them on WD. I myself am ambivalent whether we need "Operating MIC" but --others above said they'd like to have it --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 11:53, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

@ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, ChristianKl, Jklamo, ArthurPSmith, Vladimir Alexiev, Niko.georgiev: @PKM, Iwan.Aucamp: ✓ Done: MIC market code (P7534). − Pintoch (talk) 13:48, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose per ArthurPSmith for the second, it should not be created as external-id if it is not meant to be a unique identifier − Pintoch (talk) 10:31, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

academic appointment[edit]

   Ready Create
DescriptionAcademic appointment to a department or unit of an institution of higher education; distinct from academic tenure (Q1154390) and academic rank (Q486983)
Data typeItem
Domainpeople
Allowed valuestypically, items which are instances of academic department (Q2467461)
Example 1Seth R. Bordenstein (Q45943775)Vanderbilt Department of Biological Sciences (Q78041310)
Example 2Owen D. Jones (Q77516060)Vanderbilt University Law School (Q7914456)
Example 3Ivan Khorin (Q4499927)Moscow University's Department of Philosophy (Q3064305)

Motivation[edit]

This provides a method for accurately depicting affiliation(s) within an academic institution at a department level and providing details about the individual's research interests and place in career. --Eshook (talk) 17:10, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

We suggest using as a qualifier the property "series ordinal" (P1545) value of "1" for the primary appointment and "2" for secondary appointment(s). "Ranking" (P1352) is probably not appropriate for this purpose since it has type constraints that seem to preclude its use as a qualifier. Baskaufs (talk) 18:30, 11 December 2019 (UTC) Daniel Mietchen DarTar Ppgardne Michael Cochez Alexander Doria Maximilianklein Renepick Lambert Heller Beat Estermann Cornelia Flavia Veja Tobias1984 Silvio Peroni Alastair Dunning Aubrey Snipre Andrew Su Karima Rafes Alen Vodopijevec Henry Rzepa Scott Edmunds Emw Matthiassamwald Missvain Vladimir Alexiev Petermr WiseWoman Jodi.a.schneider NavinoEvans Jan van Oort Andy Mabbett Konrad Foerstner Egon Willighagen Ben Moore Z. Ainali HLHJ Ale Abdo a.k.a. Solstag jibe-b GuZ-MPG Kristina Hettne Lilaroja Runner1928 Almondega lv_ra Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) Rudy Patard ArthurPSmith Diana de la Iglesia Netha Pintoch OdileB YULdigitalpreservation Lozana Rossenova Jonathan Brier a.k.a. wolfgang8741 Jneubert econterms T0mpr1c3 Vladimir Alexiev Ivanhercaz Trilotat Benjamenta Nomen ad hoc Tris T7 TT me Simon Cobb Alessandro Marchetti sky Juliansteinb Maria zaos Josephguillaume Cavernia GoEThe Pamputt TiagoLubiana

Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Wikidata for research. Clifford Anderson (talk) 19:14, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

  • Pictogram voting question.svg Question: doesn't employer (P108) fill this role, or are there many cases where it is not an employment relationship? ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:40, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
    • Ah, and for cases of not-necessarily-employment we also already have affiliation (P1416). I'm not sure what this proposal adds to these existing properties. ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:42, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
      • With this suggestion, we are hoping to more accurately represent the relationships faculty have with departments in higher education. employer (P108) will still be used. affiliation (P1416) does not depict the relationship in such a way that is meaningful to higher education. In addition, the use of "academic appointment" will allow universities to utilize wikidata for research impact tracking by providing a more narrow property than employer or affiliation.--Eshook (talk) 19:33, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
      • The term "academic appointment" has a more specific meaning than "affiliation," I think. A faculty member will have a primary appointment at a university and may also have many secondary appointments. For instance, a faculty member at a university may have a primary appointment in the department of religious studies in the School of Arts and Sciences and secondary appointments in the faculty of teaching and learning in the School of Education as well as the department of psychiatry in the School of Medicine. When trying to model scholarly communications, we want to account for these primary and secondary appointments across institutions. Affiliation is a broader term, which could be used to indicate that a faculty member belongs to a Center for Digital Humanities or takes part in a trans-institutional grant program. I imagine that both will be used when modeling faculty relations, but I'd suggest they are sufficiently distinct as concepts to warrant distinguishing them as properties. Clifford Anderson (talk) 19:47, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
      • Although a person with an academic appointment would also be affiliated with a department, there are also people affiliated with departments that are not faculty with appointments. For example, visiting scholars, postdoctoral fellows, and research staff are affiliates that do not have academic appointments. The proposed property would make it possible to query for faculty with primary or secondary appointments in a department or college, while excluding those other categories of affiliates. Baskaufs (talk) 19:09, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose use employer. --- Jura 10:27, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Agree with Jura. You can use more than one employer if you wanna reflect organization and department. Circeus (talk) 21:46, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. I'm confused about the opposes above. As was explained, an academic appointment is not the same employment or affiliation. This would model a different, specific type of relationship a person may have with an academic department or institute. Using "employer" would be a bit like saying members of Congress should simply be described as employees of Congress, rather than stating the offices they hold.

    Generally, the employment relationship would be with the university, not the department. I've added this more explicitly in the "allowed values" above. Also, an academic appointment does not necessarily imply actual employment (for example, depending on how emeritus appointments work at the institution), and a person with employment at the institution could hold appointments with multiple departments (or none). For these reasons, a distinct property makes sense. Dominic (talk) 17:02, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

  • @Baskaufs, Clifford Anderson, Dominic, Eshook: Rereading the above discussion it is not clear to me that even you all agree on the meaning of these terms; I don't see how a third property along these lines could possibly be viewed with anything but confusion by an average Wikidata user. Why would emeritus professors have a different property than visiting scholars and research staff? If you can provide a third-party reference that clearly describes the distinction between these 3 relations (and in ways that are not specific to a small number of institutions but in some way universal around the world) then maybe I could see a point. But it seems to me the relation is either one of employment (in some kind of position with a subsidiary of the organization as a whole) or affiliation without employment, covered by the two existing properties. Note also that for the vast majority of academic institutions Wikidata only has items for the university as a whole; if there is anything else then maybe major subsidiaries such as an engineering or medical school, very rarely individual departments. So I don't see a more finely grained property, if that is the key distinction being made, actually being very useful here anyway. ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:10, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
    • Thank you, ArthurPSmith, for these remarks. You are right that capturing a precise definition is challenging because the term "appointment" differs slightly from university to university, making it hard to define the extension in the abstract. That said, the faculty manuals of institutions provide guidance about how to use apply the term: see Berkeley, Chinese University of Hong Kong, UVA, etc. Like other information in the realm of scholarly communications, we would most likely gather this information from CVs and from faculty websites. But, stepping back, maybe it helps to share more about the longterm goal. You are also quite right that Wikidata does not currently delve into the internal structure of university beyond, perhaps, the school and college level (i.e. School of Engineering, Law School, etc.) But, as Wikidata develops as a tool for scholarly communications, I see it encroaching into the territory of Research Information Management systems or RIMs. I believe that, over time, Wikidata could become a credible open source alternative to these proprietary systems, particularly for smaller schools and Global South institutions that cannot afford the commercial products. RIMs include information about faulty appointments to departments as that's needed for benchmarking with similar faculty at peer institutions. Right now, we're trying to chart out the data model but, again, I agree completely that it's early days in this effort and it pushes Wikidata to a new level of specificity in describing the internal structure of universities.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Clifford Anderson (talk • contribs) at 15:26, May 20, 2020‎ (UTC).
      • @Clifford Anderson: all three of your references appear to me to put "appointment" in a clear context of "employment" - in particular the UVA page is titled "Faculty Appointments and Employment". Do you have a reference that makes an actual distinction between "appointment" and "employment"? ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:17, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
        • @ArthurPSmith: Employment is a property that applies very broadly to faculty, staff, and even students at universities. In most cases, a faculty member with an appointment will be employed by a university. But the terms are not co-extensive. There are also appointments that do not imply an employer/employee relationship. See, for example, the list of non-salaried faculty appointments at Iowa State University and the Non-Employee Appointments at the University of Montana, indicating that faculty with "affiliate" or "courtesy" appointments are not employees. From what I understand, this distinction exists in non-US systems as well. For instance, I believe a Privatdocent has a teaching appointment but would not be considered an employee in the German system. And, as has already been mentioned above, an emeritus faculty member has an appointment without an ongoing employment relationship. In addition, faculty appointments (particularly secondary appointments) may shift over time while the employment remains stable. So I believe the concepts are distinct, though in many cases overlapping.
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support: Academic appointments, especially for adjunct and temporary faculty along with honorary faculty who may be unpaid, are really different than an employer-employee relationship. This is a gap in Wikidata now, and is a useful addition. I support this. --- FULBERT (talk) 19:05, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

(Symbol support vote.svg Support} There are many complicated circumstances that can be covered here: a single person could have a joint or secondary appointment in several departments, and also several institutes within the uiversity, , and with a department of an affiliated hospital, , and with an academic departments elsewhere (such as retaining a relationship with past institutions) These can be difficult to disientagle (tho we usually try in WP if we an find a full CV), but at least they should be recorded here. DGG (talk) 01:17, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

article in Catalan Vikidia[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionname of the article in Catalan Vikidia
RepresentsCatalan Vikidia (Q79419830)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainitem
Allowed values\S{1,400}
Example 1Romance languages (Q19814)Llengua_romànica
Example 2Spanish (Q1321)Castellà
Example 3Spain (Q29)Espanya
Sourcehttp://ca.vikidia.org/wiki/Special:Allpages
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned useLink Vikidia articles with its corresponding item
Number of IDs in source~480
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://ca.vikidia.org/wiki/$1
Robot and gadget jobsMaybe check that links are valid
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support --Trade (talk) 21:43, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

article in Russian Vikidia[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionname of the article in Russian Vikidia
RepresentsRussian Vikidia (Q79419828)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainitem
Allowed values\S{1,400}
Example 1Hayao Miyazaki (Q55400)Хаяо_Миядзаки
Example 2Argentina (Q414)Аргентина
Example 3Mexico (Q96)Мексика
Sourcehttp://ru.vikidia.org/wiki/Special:Allpages
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned useLink Vikidia articles with its corresponding item
Number of IDs in source196
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://ru.vikidia.org/wiki/$1
Robot and gadget jobsMaybe check that links are valid
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support --Trade (talk) 21:43, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

article in Greek Vikidia[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionname of the article in Greek Vikidia
RepresentsGreek Vikidia (Q79419839)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainitem
Allowed values\S{1,400}
Example 1Italy (Q38)Ιταλία
Example 2electrical injury (Q244404)Ηλεκτροπληξία
Example 3Portugal (Q45)Πορτογαλία
Sourcehttp://el.vikidia.org/wiki/Special:Allpages
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned useLink Vikidia articles with its corresponding item
Number of IDs in source45
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://el.vikidia.org/wiki/$1
Robot and gadget jobsMaybe check that links are valid
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support --Trade (talk) 21:43, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

article in Sicilian Vikidia[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionname of the article in Sicilian Vikidia
RepresentsSicilian Vikidia (Q79419835)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainitem
Allowed values\S{1,400}
Example 1French (Q150)Lingua_francisi
Example 2Spain (Q29)Spagna
Example 3France (Q142)Franza
Sourcehttp://scn.vikidia.org/wiki/Special:Allpages
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned useLink Vikidia articles with its corresponding item
Number of IDs in source39
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://scn.vikidia.org/wiki/$1
Robot and gadget jobsMaybe check that links are valid

Motivación[edit]

As of now, we have no way to link a Vikidia article with a Wikipedia article, a Commons category, or any Wikidata data. These properties will allow us to do that, using SPARQL queries. I'll only propose identifiers for Vikidia editions that contains at least 500 articles, so there are three Vikidias that I won't propose (Russian [195 art], Greek [45 art], and Sicilian [39 art]).--Tinker Bell 05:58, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support --Trade (talk) 21:43, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support all but can't this project be made a Wikimedia project so that we can link it with Wikipedia using Wikidata? David (talk) 05:17, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
  • @Tinker Bell: I tried to create this property but an automatic check failed: example value "Ordinateur" does not match regular expression MediaWiki valid title. Please fix your proposal and your property will be created shortly. This is an automated message but do not hesitate to ping me if you need any help. − Pintoch (talk) 17:57, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

@ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Tinker Bell: ✓ Done: French Vikidia ID (P7818). − Pintoch (talk) 11:50, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

  • BA candidate.svg Weak oppose for the remaining ones, which do not have many entries. − Pintoch (talk) 11:39, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment in the meantime, Property:P7818 was labelled "French Vikidia ID", but most others "article in (language) Vikidia". As English labels usually start with the name of the website, I switched that to "(language) Vikidia article". I suppose this is preferable over "Vikidia in (language)" as the items for the editions are labelled "(language) Vikidia" (sample: Q79419012). --- Jura 08:33, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment @Tinker Bell: I think you want "Any non-whitespace character", so I replaced all RegEx with its meta sequence \S. Cordially. —Eihel (talk) 15:25, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 07:38, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Stairway To Hell ID[edit]

Motivation[edit]

Stairway To Hell (Q80700184) is a database of games published on the BBC Micro (Q749976) and Acorn Electron (Q342163). Some usage on English Wikipedia. The ID system is a bit unpreditable, hence using the URL datatype. There can be more than one entry for one of our Q7889 items. Jean-Fred (talk) 19:45, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

ΛΧΣ21 Vacation9 John F. Lewis (talk) Bene* talk #Reaper (talk) Josve05a (talk) Chris Mason (talk) FunPika Arthena (talk) Wangxuan8331800 (talk) Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) Nicereddy (talk) Syum90 (talk) DrakeCaiman (talk) --George (Talk · Contribs · CentralAuth · Log) Andreasburmeister (talk) Danrok (talk) 18:20, 30 October 2015 (UTC) Macrike (talk) Dispenser (talk) 16:56, 7 July 2017 (UTC) --Zache (talk) 13:34, 12 July 2017 (UTC) Mohammed Adam (T) SharkD  Talk  06:41, 9 November 2017 (UTC) ZebaX2010 (talk) 00:49, 21 November 2017 (UTC) Sight Contamination (talk) Lewis Hulbert (talk) 20:26, 13 December 2017 (UTC) Jean-Fred (talk) 10:48, 28 February 2018 (UTC) Santer (talk) Cloaker416 (talk) 22:18, 12 June 2018 (UTC) Rampagingcarrot (talk) 19:57, 28 June 2018 (UTC) Diggr (talk) 08:07, 3 July 2018 (UTC) Harsh Rathod Poke me! 09:42, 7 July 2018 (UTC) Kirilloparma (talk) 00:30, 5 August 2018 (UTC) Sir Lothar (talk) 10:10, 10 August 2018 (UTC) Cwf97 (talk) 14:33, 22 October 2018 (UTC) Esteban16 (talk) 00:08, 27 October 2018 (UTC) Peterchanws Brasig Le Yota de Mars YotaMoteuchi (talk) 08:09, 22 May 2019 (UTC) Coloradohusky CptViraj BugWarp ʂɤɲ User:Nw520 Cynde Moya Dexxor PaulGorduiz106 Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Video games

Discussion[edit]

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support David (talk) 05:18, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
  • You can have it as an identifier matching everything after /games/. We did something similar for TvTropes. Circeus (talk) 17:16, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
    @Circeus: That’s true. The difference I see is that there was 'some kind of logic' in the TvTropes namespacing. Here it’s really just whatever weird file path they happen to use on their server, ie… an URL :-) But I can change it to IDs if there is consensus for it. Jean-Fred (talk) 09:54, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Flanders Architecture Institute - Archive ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Data typeExternal identifier
Example 1BE/653717/0006-PS
Example 2BE/653717/0006-PS/0188
Example 3BE/653717/0006-PS/0189
Example 4BE/653717/0016-ENG

Motivation[edit]

The Flanders Architecture Institute bases in Antwerp manages a collection of archives, models, photos and drawings that documents the history of building and designing in the Flanders region and Brussels. More information about the contents of this collection can be retrieved at https://www.vai.be/en/about-vai-collection

Starting from 2019 we give access to this collection with the website collectie.vai.be We want to optimize the retrievability and usability of our collection by publishing the archive and objectdata on Wikidata and sharing our public domain images om Mediawiki Commons. With this operation, we want to enrich the data about architects and designers in Wikidata and provide useful links to archival material and building information, such as the information that for example has been uploaded by the Flemish organization of Immovable Heritage. ~~~~  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by WimLo (talk • contribs) at 27 November 2019‎ (UTC).

Discussion[edit]

The Cutting Room Floor ID[edit]

   Under discussion

Motivation[edit]

The Cutting Room Floor (Q55635148) is a wiki dedicated to content cut from video games − with current 15K+ articles. Quite some usage on English Wikipedia. Their data-model is per-platform-realization, hence one of our Q7889 entry may map to more than one entry.

It also has a Proto: namespace for prototypes, probably not notable here in general (with the occasional exception, see example 5). Being a MediaWiki website, it also has a category system so we could also link Final Fantasy (Q12391356)Category:Final Fantasy series or Category:GameCube games (Q8789750)Category:GameCube_games)

(Originally suggested by User:Misc on Wikidata talk:WikiProject Video games). Jean-Fred (talk) 14:18, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

ΛΧΣ21 Vacation9 John F. Lewis (talk) Bene* talk #Reaper (talk) Josve05a (talk) Chris Mason (talk) FunPika Arthena (talk) Wangxuan8331800 (talk) Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) Nicereddy (talk) Syum90 (talk) DrakeCaiman (talk) --George (Talk · Contribs · CentralAuth · Log) Andreasburmeister (talk) Danrok (talk) 18:20, 30 October 2015 (UTC) Macrike (talk) Dispenser (talk) 16:56, 7 July 2017 (UTC) --Zache (talk) 13:34, 12 July 2017 (UTC) Mohammed Adam (T) SharkD  Talk  06:41, 9 November 2017 (UTC) ZebaX2010 (talk) 00:49, 21 November 2017 (UTC) Sight Contamination (talk) Lewis Hulbert (talk) 20:26, 13 December 2017 (UTC) Jean-Fred (talk) 10:48, 28 February 2018 (UTC) Santer (talk) Cloaker416 (talk) 22:18, 12 June 2018 (UTC) Rampagingcarrot (talk) 19:57, 28 June 2018 (UTC) Diggr (talk) 08:07, 3 July 2018 (UTC) Harsh Rathod Poke me! 09:42, 7 July 2018 (UTC) Kirilloparma (talk) 00:30, 5 August 2018 (UTC) Sir Lothar (talk) 10:10, 10 August 2018 (UTC) Cwf97 (talk) 14:33, 22 October 2018 (UTC) Esteban16 (talk) 00:08, 27 October 2018 (UTC) Peterchanws Brasig Le Yota de Mars YotaMoteuchi (talk) 08:09, 22 May 2019 (UTC) Coloradohusky CptViraj BugWarp ʂɤɲ User:Nw520 Cynde Moya Dexxor PaulGorduiz106 Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Video games

Discussion[edit]

If you want it as an external identifier, maybe we should have separate items for the versions of the games on different game systems, as they have different ID's here? ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:20, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
@ArthurPSmith: Thanks for your comment! That situation is not uncommon, many external videogame IDs link to games-as-platform-realization rather than games-as-work − eg GameFAQs game ID (P4769), Metacritic ID (P1712), UVL game ID (P7555), OpenRetro Game Database ID (P7683), TheGamesDB game ID (P7622), OGDB game title ID (P7564)….
Adopting a more complex data-model, with potentially items for each platform-realization, is something some editors are thinking about very seriously, and we may end up doing that… But deciding on that will need a wide discussion, that has not quite started yet. So, personnally, I would agree (and part of my master-plan is to piggy-back on identifiers such as this one to do it), but we may or may not end up doing it. Jean-Fred (talk) 17:27, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

Indonesian Intangible Cultural Heritage's registration number[edit]

   Under discussion
DescriptionThe registration number of intangible cultural heritage (Q59544) in Indonesia (Q252)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainitem
Allowed valuesd{10}
Example 1Saman (Q2367252) → 2010000001
Example 2angklung (Q540049) → 2010000012
Example 3Pendet (Q3034630) → 2010000639
Example 4bambu gila (Q17998767) → 2010000067
Sourcehttps://warisanbudaya.kemdikbud.go.id/?pencatatan
Planned useI want to import data from this website.
Number of IDs in source9493
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886), they will update the data regularly

Motivation[edit]

I want to add the dataset from the list of the intangible cultural heritage of Indonesia in Wikidata Beeyan (talk) 05:42, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

TrueAchievements game ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifier of a video game in the TrueAchievements database
RepresentsTrueAchievements (Q7847301)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainvideo game (Q7889)
Allowed values\w[-\w]*(?:dlc/[-\w]+)?
Example 1Observer (Q25340021)observer
Example 2BioShock 2 (Q302839)BioShock-2
Example 3BioShock 2: Minerva's Den (Q24806656)BioShock-2/dlc/Minervas-Den
Example 4Zone of the Enders HD Collection (Q40889213)Zone-of-the-Enders-HD-Collection
Example 5Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain (Q717600)Metal-Gear-Solid-V-The-Phantom-Pain, Metal-Gear-Solid-V-The-Phantom-Pain-Xbox-360
Sourcehttps://www.trueachievements.com/games.aspx
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Number of IDs in source6300+
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttps://www.trueachievements.com/game/$1

Motivation[edit]

TrueAchievements (Q7847301) is a database of video game (Q7889), mostly published on Xbox (but also Windows). It also has downloadable content (Q1066707) − I don’t think they warrant their own property though, so I integrate them here (we currently consider DLCs a subclass of video games). A little usage on English Wikipedia. The data model is per platform-realization, so there may be more than one entry for our Q7889 items. Jean-Fred (talk) 18:23, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

ΛΧΣ21 Vacation9 John F. Lewis (talk) Bene* talk #Reaper (talk) Josve05a (talk) Chris Mason (talk) FunPika Arthena (talk) Wangxuan8331800 (talk) Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) Nicereddy (talk) Syum90 (talk) DrakeCaiman (talk) --George (Talk · Contribs · CentralAuth · Log) Andreasburmeister (talk) Danrok (talk) 18:20, 30 October 2015 (UTC) Macrike (talk) Dispenser (talk) 16:56, 7 July 2017 (UTC) --Zache (talk) 13:34, 12 July 2017 (UTC) Mohammed Adam (T) SharkD  Talk  06:41, 9 November 2017 (UTC) ZebaX2010 (talk) 00:49, 21 November 2017 (UTC) Sight Contamination (talk) Lewis Hulbert (talk) 20:26, 13 December 2017 (UTC) Jean-Fred (talk) 10:48, 28 February 2018 (UTC) Santer (talk) Cloaker416 (talk) 22:18, 12 June 2018 (UTC) Rampagingcarrot (talk) 19:57, 28 June 2018 (UTC) Diggr (talk) 08:07, 3 July 2018 (UTC) Harsh Rathod Poke me! 09:42, 7 July 2018 (UTC) Kirilloparma (talk) 00:30, 5 August 2018 (UTC) Sir Lothar (talk) 10:10, 10 August 2018 (UTC) Cwf97 (talk) 14:33, 22 October 2018 (UTC) Esteban16 (talk) 00:08, 27 October 2018 (UTC) Peterchanws Brasig Le Yota de Mars YotaMoteuchi (talk) 08:09, 22 May 2019 (UTC) Coloradohusky CptViraj BugWarp ʂɤɲ User:Nw520 Cynde Moya Dexxor PaulGorduiz106 Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Video games

Discussion[edit]

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:39, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Jc86035 (talk) 08:05, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Aaarg, realised there is a numerical ID system which does resolves, eg Observer (Q25340021)6599. However, it does not work for DLCs. Meanwhile, there is a parallel ID system “Product ID”, which has a wider scope (also includes bundles), but does work for both games and DLCs (eg 27037)… Not too sure how best to proceed... Jean-Fred (talk) 12:08, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
    @Jean-Frédéric: My suggestion would be to edit this property proposal to be for the numeric game ID and then create another for the numeric product ID. Jc86035 (talk) 11:46, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

PARADISEC Catalog[edit]

   Under discussion
DescriptionPARADISEC (the Pacific And Regional Archive for Digital Sources in Endangered Cultures) offers a facility for digital conservation and access to endangered materials from all over the world
Data typeExternal identifier
Example 1North Ambrym (Q2842468)MP1
Example 2Bislama (Q35452) and Makura (Q3335410)DLGP1
Example 3Kilivila (Q3196601)JL1
Sourcehttps://catalog.paradisec.org.au/collections/search?page=1&per_page=430
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned useLink to all the items in their catalogue, could be used in templates for Wikipedia articles for languages or as a reference
Number of IDs in source320 (being added to over time)
Formatter URLhttps://catalog.paradisec.org.au/collections/$1

Motivation[edit]

The database is a collaborative effort to make data on languages and cultures more accessible, especially in the Pacific.

John Cummings (talk) 19:32, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose (for now) Proposal template is incomplete. Jay D. Easy (talk) 00:08, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment I'm not sure exactly how to model this, these are resources about the languages but not necessarily one language per link and maybe multiple links per language. --John Cummings (talk) 22:17, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment I recommend creating an item for each resource (as a work in itself - if not already in Wikidata); then this would make a basic external ID for these resources. ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:43, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Looks like a very useful resource, so the suggestion of ArthurPSmith makes a lot of sense. Perhaps, values for Domain and RegEx could be added to the proposal. Jneubert (talk) 11:17, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support --Gerwoman (talk) 15:52, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

CNGB Project ID[edit]

   Under discussion
DescriptionChina National Gene Bank Project ID
RepresentsWikidata property related to biology (Q22988603)
Data typeExternal identifier
Allowed valuesCNP(his)?\d{7}
Example 1SARS-CoV-2 (Q82069695)CNP0000881
Example 2The 3000 Rice Genomes Project Oryza sativa (Q161426)CNPhis0000101
Example 3MISSING
Planned use  
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttps://db.cngb.org/search/project/$1/   

Motivation[edit]

Because I don't understand English, biology, and regular expressions, some information may be incorrect.-- 舞月書生👉☎️👈∮Active at zh.wikipedia. 05:44, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support This is a good start! I'm sure others with more biomedical expertise can improve this better than I can. Mahir256 (talk) 06:26, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support --Trade (talk) 23:00, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
  • BA candidate.svg Weak oppose (for now) @舞月書生: While I think the property is great, I think the examples and proposal needs improving. I was looking for properties to create but as it stands I don't feel this one is quite ready for that. The one valid example seems to conflate a project 2019-nCoV-Project with a specific virus SARS-CoV-2 (Q82069695). The project should have a separate distinct Wikidata item. If there is no cases where this property would actually be a valid identifier we should probably not create it. @Mahir256, Trade, ArthurPSmith: FYA Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 21:48, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

RAL ID[edit]

   Under discussion
DescriptionRAL ID from the RAL Classic color system
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainproperty
Allowed valuesRAL\d{4}
Example 1RAL 1001 (Q35793728) → RAL 1001
Example 2RAL 2002 (Q13358072) → RAL 2002
Example 3RAL 3009 (Q35802922) → RAL 3009
Example 4RAL 4005 (Q35806720) → RAL 4005
Sourcehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_RAL_colors
Number of IDs in source~243
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)

Motivation[edit]

Rename all RAL colors and possibly merge them with other color entities without loosing information. This could then also possibly be used as a quantifier for sRGB color hex triplet (P465) to determine which of the given HEX codes matches the RAL color. I'm not sure about merging some items, in general I would like to gather some input on this topic. First step is do have the property :) --DaSch (talk) 19:46, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Gry-Online game ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifier of a video game in the Gry-Online database
RepresentsGry Online (Q55613038)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainvideo game (Q7889)
Allowed values[1-9]\d*
Example 1Crash Time 4: The Syndicate (Q2636956)1
Example 2Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror (Q2291549)10
Example 3BioShock 2: Minerva's Den (Q24806656)1424
Example 4StarCraft: Brood War (Q840409)6680
Example 5Ministry of Broadcast (Q84165734)22901
Sourcehttps://www.gry-online.pl/gry/
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Number of IDs in source22942
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttps://www.gry-online.pl/gra.asp?ID=$1 ; https://gamepressure.com/game.asp?ID=$1

Motivation[edit]

Gry Online (Q55613038) is a Polish website and online database of ~30K video games. It has two websites: the Polish gry-online.pl, and the English gamepressure.com − the ID system is shared between the two (hence two formatter URL). Significant usage on the Polish Wikipedia (with gry-online), quite some on English Wikipedia and a couple of others. Jean-Fred (talk) 20:28, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

ΛΧΣ21 Vacation9 John F. Lewis (talk) Bene* talk #Reaper (talk) Josve05a (talk) Chris Mason (talk) FunPika Arthena (talk) Wangxuan8331800 (talk) Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) Nicereddy (talk) Syum90 (talk) DrakeCaiman (talk) --George (Talk · Contribs · CentralAuth · Log) Andreasburmeister (talk) Danrok (talk) 18:20, 30 October 2015 (UTC) Macrike (talk) Dispenser (talk) 16:56, 7 July 2017 (UTC) --Zache (talk) 13:34, 12 July 2017 (UTC) Mohammed Adam (T) SharkD  Talk  06:41, 9 November 2017 (UTC) ZebaX2010 (talk) 00:49, 21 November 2017 (UTC) Sight Contamination (talk) Lewis Hulbert (talk) 20:26, 13 December 2017 (UTC) Jean-Fred (talk) 10:48, 28 February 2018 (UTC) Santer (talk) Cloaker416 (talk) 22:18, 12 June 2018 (UTC) Rampagingcarrot (talk) 19:57, 28 June 2018 (UTC) Diggr (talk) 08:07, 3 July 2018 (UTC) Harsh Rathod Poke me! 09:42, 7 July 2018 (UTC) Kirilloparma (talk) 00:30, 5 August 2018 (UTC) Sir Lothar (talk) 10:10, 10 August 2018 (UTC) Cwf97 (talk) 14:33, 22 October 2018 (UTC) Esteban16 (talk) 00:08, 27 October 2018 (UTC) Peterchanws Brasig Le Yota de Mars YotaMoteuchi (talk) 08:09, 22 May 2019 (UTC) Coloradohusky CptViraj BugWarp ʂɤɲ User:Nw520 Cynde Moya Dexxor PaulGorduiz106 Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Video games

Discussion[edit]

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support It need title in the url otherwise it linking to the most interesting materials instead of game page. See Eurohunter (talk) 21:35, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Like Eurohunter wrote - it should be string datatype. Sir Lothar (talk) 13:51, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
    If the proposal is already in “Ready”, please change-it back to not ready if you are going to make significant changes to the proposal.
    I disagree, because crash-time-iv-the-syndicate/z11 is clearly not an Identifier but a slug (which have a habit to not be very stable). The numeric IDs are likely to be way more stable. If it’s just a formatter URL ; then let’s use the gamepressure one which resolves cleanly to the “more interesting material”. (see eg https://gamepressure.com/game.asp?ID=1) Jean-Fred (talk) 17:13, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
    Yes, I think using gamepressure.com would be OK, as they didn't change formatter and still use numeric ID. Sir Lothar (talk) 10:14, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
  • @Eurohunter, Sir Lothar: That's very uncool to radically change a proposed identifier like that without even pinging the proposer. I agree with Jean-Fred, if this is an ID then a numeric ID is much preferable. I Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose (struck since this was changed back again, thanks) the current modified version of this proposal. ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:31, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
    • @ArthurPSmith, Jean-Frédéric: Sorry, I thought that if the discussion is still going on, then user can modify proposal (like "Be bold" on Wikipedia). My mistake - I'll remember that next time. I still think that it's better to send reader to the main site of entity (like [2]), rather than to side materials. Sir Lothar (talk) 15:27, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

applies if regular expression matches id[edit]

   Ready Create
Descriptionthe statement is only true, if the id matches this regex
Data typeString
Domainproperty
Allowed valuesvalid regular expression with at least one capture group
Example 1
Fandom article ID (P6262)
formatter URL (P1630)https://$2.fandom.com/$1/wiki/$3
if regex([\w]+).([\w-]+):([^\s])
Example 2
Fandom article ID (P6262)
formatter URL (P1630)https://$1.fandom.com/wiki/$2
if regex([\w-]+):([^\s])
Example 3
Fandom article ID (P6262)
https://www.fandom.com/index.php?title=w:c:$1
if regexno value
object has role (P3831) → fallback
Example 4
Gamepedia article ID (P6623)
formatter URL (P1630)https://$1.gamepedia.com/$2
if regex([\w-]+):([^\s])
Example 5
Gamepedia article ID (P6623)
formatter URL (P1630)https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-externalid-url/?p=6623&id=$1
if regexno value
object has role (P3831) → fallback

Motivation[edit]

Fandom article ID (P6262) and Gamepedia article ID (P6623) use a third party services to resolve ids to urls. but i think it could be done entirely on wikidata, if it was possible to pass multiple variables to the formatter URL (P1630). This is a proposal to do that.

We'd need a qualifier holding a regular expression.

  1. the regex will be used to determine which formatter url shall be used. therefore it must not match if the supplied id does not hold the required number of variables.
  2. the regex will also be used to extract the variables from the id to the formatter url.
  3. as a fallback an external resolver may be used if no regex matches the id. this fallback should be highlighted somehow. For this proposal I chose no value. formatter urls that match the regular expression must be preferred.

--Shisma (talk) 21:00, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Do you intend to engage the Wikidata developers so this can be supported in the UI, or how otherwise would you envision this to be actually used? ArthurPSmith (talk) 15:31, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
@Shisma: Also maybe relevant - see Phabricator Task T150939 ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:27, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

EcuRed article[edit]

   Done: EcuRed article (P8092) (Talk and documentation)
Descriptionarticle in Cuban wiki EcuRed
RepresentsEcuRed (Q1282218)
Data typeExternal identifier
DomainItem
Allowed values\S{1,400}
Example 1Ladies in White (Q1158351) → "Damas_de_Blanco"
Example 2United States of America (Q30) → "Estados_Unidos"
Example 3Walt Disney (Q8704) → "Walt_Disney"
Sourcehttp://www.ecured.cu/Especial:Todas
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned useincluding it on Template:Authority control (Q3907614)
Number of IDs in source~210000
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttp://www.ecured.cu/$1
Robot and gadget jobsmaybe checking that the identifiers are valid

Motivación[edit]

(Indica tu motivación para solicitar esta propiedad aquí). --Tinker Bell 00:09, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support, logical, important property.--Arbnos (talk) 23:40, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support --Trade (talk) 13:59, 11 March 2020 (UTC)


✓ Done --Amitie 10g (talk) 23:38, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Amitie 10g (talkcontribslogs), Instead of done in the {{Property proposal}}'s |status= value, please use the property's number (i.e. if the property was created as P:P1, use |status=1). Thanks. — regards, Revi 13:01, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
For example, see Special:Diff/1153752740. — regards, Revi 13:03, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

TaDiRAH ID[edit]

   On hold
DescriptionA property to link Wikidata items to the concepts of the Taxonomy of Digital Research Activities in the Humanities (TaDiRAH)
Data typeExternal identifier
Allowed values[0-9]\d{0,3}
Example 1brainstorming (Q191183)94
Example 2digital humanities (Q1026962)61
Example 3georeferencing (Q772007)106
Example 4writing (Q37260)20
Sourcehttps://github.com/dhtaxonomy/TaDiRAH (source and documentation) and http://tadirah.dariah.eu/vocab/index.php (ID numbers)
Planned useProvide a mapping from TaDiRAH to Wikidata items, while also profiting from other already present mappings to other controlled vocabularies.
Number of IDs in source121
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttp://tadirah.dariah.eu/vocab/index.php?tema=$1
See alsoGetty AAT ID (P1014); any property with IDs for topics, such as JSTOR topic ID (P3827)

Motivation[edit]

TaDiRAH is a taxonomy containing terms to describe digital research activities in the humanities. It was developed with the aim to structure information relevant to digital humanities, thus enhancing discoverability of any tools, methods, projects, or publications related to digital humanities research. Example projects using TaDiRAH concepts are the DH Course Registry, Doing Digital Humanities - A DARIAH Bibliography, and the Standardisation Survival Kit by PARTHENOS.

Including the TaDiRAH ID in Wikidata would allow to profit from other already present mappings and also help in e.g. finding relevant publications included in Wikidata. On the other hand the usefulness of TaDiRAH itself would be increased. Mtrognitz (talk) 09:50, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Oh, wow this did go quicker than I expected! Thank you for your support. However, I am not creating the property right away, because yesterday I came to know, that TaDiRAH is going to change host (here is a blog post in German about it: https://dhd-blog.org/?p=13108). This will affect the formatter URL (it will be something like this: https://vocabs.dariah.eu/tadirah) and very likely also the identifying part for each concept won't stay the same. I'll keep an eye on the development and will update the 'allowed values' and 'formatter URL' respectively. Mtrognitz (talk) 16:07, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

It's been about a month, any SITREP? We can always create and update the URL format later, as long as the $1 doesn't change. (Given the backlogs in the WD:PP/Authority control, I think we'd rather reduce the number of pages transcluded in that page. — regards, Revi 12:58, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
I got into contact. They are still working on the publication with the new host. And from what I gather everything seems to indicate a change of $1, which is why I would prefer to wait. Especially given that they are also planning on turning off the current host. Mtrognitz (talk) 09:56, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Social Blade YouTube channel ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifier for an YouTube channel from Social Blade site
RepresentsSocial Blade (Q56317652)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman (Q5)
Example 1Basshunter (Q383541)basshunter
Example 2Stromae (Q313453)dapastudio
Example 3Sean Paul (Q200577)allseanpaul
Sourcehttps://socialblade.com
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned usePutting value to YouTube channels from the Social Blade site.
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://socialblade.com/youtube/user/$1
See alsoAlbum of the Year artist ID (P7050)

Motivation[edit]

Property for YouTube channels included in Social Blade. Eurohunter (talk) 22:17, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment There are thousands of websites like this for various social networks such as Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and etc. What exactly makes this one special? --Trade (talk) 22:47, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose per Trade. There are better things to do when sitting in Ventrilo, like playing Q215936. Mahir256 (talk) 02:46, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
    • @Trade: @Mahir256: I proposed this because it has item in Wikidata and was described in 6 languages at Wikipedia which I can't tell about "thousands of websites like this for various social networks". It's like SimilarWeb. Eurohunter (talk) 19:32, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Curran Index Periodical ID[edit]

   Under discussion
DescriptionIdentifier for periodicals from which articles are indexed in the Curran Index
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainperiodical (Q1002697)
Allowed valuespositive integers
Example 1The Metropolitan Magazine (Q7751208)2
Example 2Once a Week (Q7091757)41
Example 3Athenaeum (Q755237)52
Example 4Bijou (Q88284885)47
Sourcehttp://curranindex.org/
Planned useAdd to magazines that already have items
Number of IDs in source53 but expanding
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttp://curranindex.org/articles?search%5Bperiodical%5D%5B%5D=$1
See alsoCurran Index Contributor ID

Motivation[edit]

Maybe not as useful as some identifiers, but still, for completeness's sake there should be properties for both of the Curran Index's ID types (I already proposed the contributor IDs). The URL pulls up a page with a description of the magazine, an indication of what exactly is indexed, and a list of the indexed articles from it. Levana Taylor (talk) 00:38, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

TED speaker numeric ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman (Q5), group of humans (Q16334295)
Allowed values\d+
Example 1Julian Assange (Q360)779
Example 2Rokia Traoré (Q256065)166
Example 3Emmanuel Jal (Q1338331)492
Sourcehttps://www.ted.com/speakers
Number of IDs in sourceMore than 2000
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttps://www.ted.com/speakers/$1
See alsoTED speaker ID (P2611)

Motivation[edit]

Like Twitter (Q918), TED (Q23054661) has two types of IDs: names (strings) and numeric IDs. TED speaker ID (P2611) accepts both types, and consequently it has hundreds of "single value" violations. It would be better to follow the example of Twitter username (P2002) and Twitter user numeric ID (P6552), and treat numeric IDs as a separate property that can be attached to TED speaker ID (P2611) as a qualifier.

If the name TED speaker numeric ID is too confusing or ambiguous, one alternative is TED speaker ID (numeric). —Ringbang (talk) 03:04, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Do these string identifiers for persons change? If they don't, why isn't one identifier enough? Germartin1 (talk) 09:23, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
  • BA candidate.svg Weak oppose I don't think a second identifier is needed. It should be decided which identifier is preferable (numeric or string) and this should be used for the existing property. The Twitter properties are detrimental to this proposal as a comparison in my opinion because Twitter data is more of a mess than it needs to be thanks to the existence of two separate properties. The reason Twitter even has two is because usernames are not stable and the numeric ID (the true account identifier) is - but was sadly created after the former. --SilentSpike (talk) 13:48, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
    I've asked Jane023 (talkcontribslogs) and Pigsonthewing (talkcontribslogs) to comment, as they are/were the Wikipedians in residence at TED. —Ringbang (talk) 16:12, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
    • Well I would tend to agree that a second property is not needed. After all, you only have a few thousand ids anyway, so periodically clearing out the numeric ids should be fairly easy. The comparison to Twitter is absurd, since the scale of the two websites are nowhere near the same in scale. Jane023 (talk) 16:23, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose A single property is sufficient. We can decide whether we want to allow both string and numeric or pick one and remove the other, but a new property is not the answer. Daask (talk) 20:10, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

FactGrid property ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifier for a property in FactGrid
RepresentsFactGrid (Q90405608)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainitem
Example 1instance of (P31)P2
Example 2VD 18 ID (P6135)P370
Example 3sex or gender (P21)P154
Sourcehttps://database.factgrid.de/wiki/Main_Page
Planned useSyncing through collaboration
Formatter URLhttps://database.factgrid.de/wiki/Property:$1

Motivation[edit]

See Wikidata:Property proposal/FactGrid item ID#Motivation --Adam Harangozó (talk) 14:23, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment I believe there is a plan to allow wikibases to directly query Wikidata properties in the near future, not quite sure how this relates, have you looked into this? ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:20, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
Not yet but I will now, thank you! Adam Harangozó (talk) 14:24, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
It came up in the recent Wikidata office hours on telegram, I'm not sure it's been documented elsewhere. Here's the relevant quote that I caught:

"We started working on Federated Properties: this MVP will make it possible to configure your new Wikibase to remotely access Wikidata’s properties to make local statements, instead of creating your own properties from scratch. Any updates the community makes to Wikidata properties will be reflected automatically in Wikibases with this feature enabled! As an MVP, this is a minimal version of what will eventually be a full-fledged feature We will use it to learn as much as we can about federation between wikibases, and between wikibases and Wikidata!"

ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:23, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Goodreads work ID[edit]

   Under discussion
DescriptionThis is a unique identifier for written works (Q47461344) on Goodreads. This property should not be confused with Goodreads book ID, which is a unique identifier for versions, editions, or translations (Q3331189). For any one written work like War and Peace there should be only one Goodreads work ID but there may be multiple Goodreads book IDs. You can get this value from the "all editions" link on a Goodreads book page.
RepresentsGoodreads (Q2359213)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainliterary work (Q7725634)
Allowed values[1-9]\d*
Example 1The Art of Electronics (Q3985697)556821 ( Goodreads book ID (P2969) 556821 resolves to an edition of "History and the Idea of Progress", which has a Goodreads work ID of 5020760)
Example 2War and Peace (Q161531)4912783 ( Goodreads book ID (P2969) 4912783 resolves to an edition of "Robotics in Alpe-Adria Region: Proceedings of the 2nd International Workshop (Raa '93), June 1993, Krems, Austria", which has a Goodreads work ID of 4978325)
Example 3The Forever War (Q5406934)423 ( Goodreads book ID (P2969) 423 resolves to an edition of "Where I Was From", which has a Goodreads work ID of 1371028)
Example 4Demian (Q860577)5334697 ( Goodreads book ID (P2969) 5334697 resolves to an edition of "Tell Me What to Eat If I Have Type II Diabetes", which has a Goodreads work ID of 5402183)
Sourcehttps://www.goodreads.com/
Planned useI want to use this when enhancing literary work (Q7725634) items. No exact plan for automated use at the moment. This could eventually be used to link different ISBNs to a single Item.
Number of IDs in sourceMore than 5000000, less than 6000000.
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://www.goodreads.com/work/editions/$1
See alsoOCLC work ID (P5331), OCLC control number (P243), LibraryThing work ID (P1085), Open Library ID (P648), Goodreads book ID (P2969)

Motivation[edit]

I think more identifiers for literary work (Q7725634) will be useful, and this one seems decent. Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 11:37, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

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Mushroom
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Revi 16:54, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
Giftzwerg 88 (talk) 23:36, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Almondega (talk) 00:17, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
maxlath
Jura to help sort out issues with other projects
Epìdosis
Skim (talk) 13:52, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
Marchitelli (talk) 12:29, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
Alexmar983 (talk) 23:53, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
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Chiara (talk) 14:15, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
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User:Jc3s5h
PatHadley (talk) 21:51, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
Erica (ohmyerica) (talk) 19:26, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
User:Timmy_Finnegan
Mauricio V. Genta (talk) 05:38, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
Sam Wilson 09:24, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Sic19 (talk) 22:25, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
Andreasmperu
MartinPoulter (talk) 09:21, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
ThelmadatterThelmadatter (talk) 01:11, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
Zeroth (talk) 15:01, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Emeritus
Ankry
Beat Estermann (talk) 20:07, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
Shilonite - specialize in cataloging Jewish & Hebrew books
Elena moz
Oa01 (talk) 10:52, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
Maria zaos (talk) 11:39, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
Wikidelo (talk) 13:07, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Mfchris84 (talk) 10:08, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
Mlemusrojas (talk) 3:36, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
salgo60 Salgo60 (talk) 12:42, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Dick Bos (talk) 14:35, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
Marco Chemello (BEIC) (talk) 07:26, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Harshrathod50
 徵國單  (討論 🀄) (方孔錢 💴) 14:35, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
Alicia Fagerving (WMSE)
Louize5 (talk) 20:05, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
Viztor (talk) 05:48, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
RaymondYee (talk) 21:12, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
Merrilee (talk) 22:14, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
Kcoyle (talk) 22:17, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
JohnMarkOckerbloom (talk) 22:58, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
Tris T7 TT me
Helmoony (talk) 19:49, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Naunc1
Shooke (talk) 19:17, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
DarwIn (talk) 14:58, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
I am Davidzdh. 16:08, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Juandev (talk) 10:03, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
Buccalon (talk) 15:51, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
MJLTalk 16:48, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Rosiestep (talk) 20:26, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
Dcflyer (talk) 12:23, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
Susanna Giaccai (talk) 05:56, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
Asaf Bartov (talk) 19:03, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
Msuicat (talk) 17:58, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
SilentSpike (talk) 15:27, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
TheFireBender (talk) 12:40, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Jumtist (talk) 21:45, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
Irønie
Openly
DrLibraryCat (talk) 18:25, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
ShawnMichael100 (talk) 20:04, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Lmbarrier (talk) 19:47, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
Satpal Dandiwal (talk) 17:32, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
Rosiestep (talk) 17:08, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
AndrewNJ
Franzsimon
Vladis13
Clifford Anderson (talk) 01:37, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Discostu (talk) 09:02, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
Subodh (talk)
Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 14:02, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Алексей Скрипник (talk) 15:31, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
MLeonStewart (talk) 18:04, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Books

T.seppelt (talk) 21:00, 18 February 2016 (UTC) Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 11:59, 13 March 2017 (UTC) GerardM (talk) 15:58, 26 March 2017 (UTC) Jonathan Groß (talk) 17:52, 26 March 2017 (UTC) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits Jneubert (talk) 13:47, 29 April 2017 (UTC) Framawiki (please notify !) (talk) Sic19 (talk) 20:42, 12 July 2017 (UTC) Wikidelo (talk) 21:15, 8 May 2018 (UTC) salgo60 Salgo60 (talk) 07:09, 10 June 2018 (UTC) ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:52, 22 August 2018 (UTC) PKM (talk) 19:40, 23 August 2018 (UTC) Ettorerizza (talk) 06:44, 8 October 2018 (UTC) Fuzheado (talk) 03:47, 19 December 2018 (UTC) Daniel Mietchen (talk) 16:30, 7 April 2019 (UTC) Eihel (talk) 15:13, 19 June 2019 (UTC) NAH (talk) 20:29, 18 August 2019 (UTC) Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 21:48, 3 October 2019 (UTC) Epìdosis (talk) 23:49, 22 November 2019 (UTC) Sotho Tal Ker (talk) 00:52, 1 May 2020 (UTC) Bargioni (talk) 09:48, 02 May 2020 (UTC) --Carlobia (talk) 14:34, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control

Discussion[edit]

Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose - there is already Goodreads book ID (P2969) and it is not clear to me how the creation of this property would offer anything extra. This new property would be linking to a page that links to, and is linked from, the location of Goodreads book ID (P2969). For example, The Art of Electronics (Q3985697)Goodreads book ID (P2969)569775 links to the proposed Goodreads work ID 556821, which has a reciprocal link. Simon Cobb (User:Sic19 ; talk page) 16:56, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

@Sic19:: Goodreads book ID (P2969) is an identifier for ?item instance of (P31) version, edition, or translation (Q3331189) where as Goodreads work ID would be a identifier for ?item instance of (P31) written work (Q47461344). This is similar to the distinction between OCLC work ID (P5331) and OCLC control number (P243). Yes OCLC work ID (P5331) will link back to the same value that is in OCLC control number (P243), but these belong on different Wikidata items (if they exist). This will also facilitate the lookup of a Wikidata item relating to a work from ISBN even if the ISBN is not registered in wikipedia as you can lookup the ISBN on another service and link it back to an identifier that is on wikidata (the same can be done with Open Library ID (P648) as there are IDs there for works and editions and with OCLC work ID (P5331) and OCLC control number (P243)). The alternative would be to create 1,683 items with edition or translation of (P629) War and Peace (Q161531) and add Goodreads book ID (P2969) and ISBN-13 (P212) on each individual item. Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 21:21, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
@Iwan.Aucamp:, the type constraints for Goodreads book ID (P2969) are instance of written work (Q47461344) or version, edition, or translation (Q3331189), so there would be overlap between the properties. I agree with everything else you've said and will withdraw my opposition (and most likely support) the proposed property if it is updated to clearly explain the relationship to Goodreads book ID (P2969) and how the usage differs. It also seems reasonable that there is agreement about the necessary changes to Goodreads book ID (P2969) before the new property is created. Fundamentally, the new property will be useful but, for me, it is sensible to spend a little extra time now getting the details right instead of fixing problems later. Simon Cobb (User:Sic19 ; talk page) 20:51, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
@Sic19: There are already overlap between identifiers for written works and identifiers for editions. Both OCLC control number (P243) and ISBN-13 (P212) (which are identifiers for editions and not works) are allowed and used on both written work (Q47461344) and version, edition, or translation (Q3331189) and I don't really have a serious problem with it, I think the semantics and usage instructions could be made clearer for both OCLC control number (P243) and ISBN-13 (P212) but it is not that unclear. To me it is clear that if a written work has ISBN-13 (P212) it that it is an identifier of an edition of said written work. And it is also clear to me that if there is an Q-item for that specific edition then the ISBN-13 (P212) belongs there instead of on the written work. It is also clear that when ISBN-13 (P212) is used on an edition it should be with qualifier.
I have created a discussion section for Goodreads book ID (P2969) here where I have raised some inconsistency with the property and suggested we clarify the use a bit through documentation. If you have any other problems with it you should raise it otherwise please provide feedback on the proposal.
I have expanded the description of this property and hope it is clear enough now. I want to avoid documenting other properties or the ontology used for written works and editions in this property - that should be and is documented on WikiProject books. The Domain of this property has been literary work (Q7725634) from the start - which already actually makes it pretty clear. Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 22:00, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Symbol support vote.svg Support Note that I'm not a books specialist. Still I've done a bit of research and here's what I found:

  • The Goodreads work ID (https://www.goodreads.com/work/editions/$1) is different from the book ID ( https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/$1). Both seem to be very different concept. For instance Free as in Freedom "edition" contains the same text in different format, and possibly translated in many languages, whereas Free as in Freedom(2.0) has, in addition to the same base text, many comments from the person that is subject of the biography were added. The additional comments takes a significant part of the book (more than 10% if my memory is correct, maybe 20% or 30%).
  • Having more identifier is a good thing as it helps better understand what constitute a work and what constitute an edition. External identifiers may not map exactly to Wikidata definition of edition and work. Even if both had exactly the same definition, mistakes could occur in both data sets, and having more identifiers helps spotting these. It's also probably impossible to have definitions that can clearly distinguish between different things and there is often some grey area between things: As I understand from the Functional_Requirements_for_Bibliographic_Records Wikipedia page, there is no crystal clear boundary to distinguish if two expressions are from the same work or from a different work that is inspired from the first one. Collective works that are done in an acentralized fashion like stories that are told between people and generations but not written down (yet) and drift from each other in different places are probably hard to characterize. For instance, as I understand the Commedia dell'arte "work" was a story that was told accros people and generations Commedia_dell'arte which was then written down by Carlo Goldoni.
  • However the description of the properties should be crystal clear on both goodreads work ID and goodreads book ID on which is which in order not to have people confuse both. As the URL are different there may also be ways to check for mistakes if someone uses a book ID instead of a work ID and vice versa.

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Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment How do we determine whether a specific identifier is for a work, an edition, or something else? --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:19, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

  • @EncycloPetey: in this case it is stated in the domain. The domain in this proposal is and has always been literary work (Q7725634). I guess part of the issue is that for Goodreads book ID (P2969) there is a lack of clarity, but to be fair, the same lack of clarity exists for ISBN-13 (P212) and OCLC control number (P243). I have suggested the documentation be updated for Goodreads book ID (P2969) (proposal here, no responses) to clarify this though but maybe another property to represent the domain independently of the constraints is needed. Again though, this property is perfectly clear on the matter, I don't mind fixing other properties but other properties will always be broken and new properties are created in the face of that reality all the time. Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 18:10, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
    • That doesn't answer the question I asked. I did not ask whether this property was for a work, an edition, or something else. What I asked was how we distinguish the identifier value inserted into this property as being a for a work, an edition, or something else. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:36, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
      • @EncycloPetey: from just the value itself you cannot determine whether it is for a work, edition ("book"), character, author or series. Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 16:37, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
        • Since there is no way to make the determination, why create a separate property? --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:41, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
          • @EncycloPetey: Because it identifies something different? If I have a number, say 3000, and no other information, how do I know whether it is a OCLC work ID (P5331), LibraryThing work ID (P1085), OCLC control number (P243) or RfC ID (P892)? I don't, but we still have different properties because they are different identifiers. If I put a RFC ID in OCLC work ID (P5331) then it will just be wrong and resolve to the wrong thing. Their are different identifier spaces, not any single one claims to be a UUID. And neither this proposal nor Goodreads book ID (P2969) is a UUID. Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 18:38, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
          • I don't actually understand why that even matters, if you just have a bunch of numbers with no other information, why would you use them for anything? Just discard them. Actual use cases, like scraping would involve you getting the identifer from a place where it is clear what it identifies, like if I got the identifier from an RFC page, I would not put it in Goodreads book ID (P2969) even though there is no way for me to tell, from the value alone whether it is a RFC ID or a Goodreads book ID (P2969). The exact same thing applies here, if you got the identifier from a work page or link on Goodreads, why would you be confused as to whether or not it identifies a work? Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 18:51, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
          • By this standard almost all identifiers should be deprecated and we will be left more or less just with URI based identifiers. Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 18:54, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
            • I asked if there was any way to tell them apart, and you said no. Most other identifiers have the means to distinguish works from editions. Those that do not have led to serious problems. Because there is no means of distinguishing them, there is no reason to have two properties. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:59, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose - there is already Goodreads book ID (P2969), and there is no means to distinguish a work from an edition,there is no reason to have two properties. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:42, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

  • @EncycloPetey: If you put the edition identifier as a book identifier it will just be wrong. For example, if you take the Bookreads work identifier for The Art of Electronics (Q3985697) which is 556821 (clearly stated in the proposal), and resolve it using the Goodreads book ID (P2969) formatter URL (P1630) https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/$1 (instead of the formatter url which is in the proposal) - it will resolve to an edition of "History and the Idea of Progress" with ISBN-13 of "9780801481826". If your reasoning here is valid then why is OCLC work ID (P5331) and OCLC control number (P243) both justified? Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 18:38, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
    Yes, it would be wrong, but the discussion above has established that we have no means of making that distinction. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:47, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
    @EncycloPetey: I really don't get your objection. Say I give you a value 24041 and ask you is it a Tidal artist ID (P4576), Tropicos publication ID (P4904), C-SPAN organization ID (P4725), Gamebase64 identifier (P4917), Goodreads author ID (P2963), Goodreads character ID (P6327) or a Goodreads character ID (P6327)? What would your answer be? I mean the right answer is that it is a valid value for all of those identifiers, but since they are not the same identifier we have different properties for them instead of suggesting someone put values for Tidal artist ID (P4576) inside Goodreads character ID (P6327). Can you answer why you don't have similar objections to OCLC work ID (P5331) and OCLC control number (P243)? Unless of course you do have similar objections, in which case I would be grateful if you could raise them on whichever of those you want deprecated to help clarify what the problem is. Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 21:14, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
    I don't understand what you're asking or how it applies to the current issue. OCLC (WorldCat) is a total mess. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:28, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
    @EncycloPetey: Maybe I'm misunderstanding here, but it seems like you have some hangup to create properties that have positive integer values as there is no way to look at a positive integer value and decide what it identifies. If so, do you mind proposing this rule in for all properties? And if you do mind, or do not think the rule should apply in to all properties, then why do you want to enforce this rule here?
    You asked "how we distinguish the identifier value inserted into this property as being a for a work, an edition, or something else.". I said that we cannot distinguish, the value is a positive integer without distinguishing features on it, the same as the value for Tidal artist ID (P4576), Tropicos publication ID (P4904), C-SPAN organization ID (P4725), Gamebase64 identifier (P4917), Goodreads author ID (P2963), Goodreads character ID (P6327) or a Goodreads character ID (P6327) (and 100s of other properties). Yet we still manage to use them correctly, because we know they are not the same identifiers. When I get a value for C-SPAN organization ID (P4725) from somewhere my process of adding it wikidata is not to find any external identifier property that can take an positive integer and add it there and seize up if there is more than one such property. My process is to add it to the property that is intended for C-SPAN organization ID (P4725).
    Failure to do so is not a reason to not have a property for C-SPAN organization ID (P4725) either in my view, in such a case someone should take it up with the editor adding incorrect values, but with enough authority control and automation we can also very easily check things, we can check the structure against Goodreads, and OCLC, and other databases to see if there are discrepancies. So what I'm asking is, why do you expect that there should be something about a value for a numeric identifier, that is generated as sequential positive integers, and associated with works, to distinguish it from a value for a numeric identifier, that is generated as sequential positive integers, associated with editions?
    What is the use case we are trying to satisfy here? You just have a bunch of positive integers and you want to put it somewhere on wikidata? For that you can maybe do a query of all external identifiers that accept positive integers, get their formatter URLs, lookup their metadata on the external database, match it to wikidata and then if the metadata matches add the identifier to the item. So even this quite quirky use case could be covered without having something in the value itself which distinguishes it.
    You keep saying OCLC is a mess, please be more specific here. Some parts of WikiData is a mess, yet we don't stop editing it because of this, we work to make it better, cleaning up the mess. We describe what we think is wrong and try and get consensus on how to address it. Is the mess with OCLC that people mix up OCLC work ID (P5331) and OCLC control number (P243)? Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 11:12, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
    Within the OCLC database, they do not always distinguish between works, editions, and instances. That makes it a mess. A data item might be for one of those things or simultaneously two or more of those, and each work / edition might have multiple values. Hence, it is a mess. There are values in their database that cannot be aligned with our database or with any library database because of the sloppiness in the values within their database. I still don't understand how the rest of your comments apply here. When you say "Goodreads character ID (P6327) or a Goodreads character ID (P6327)", those are the same thing, and most of the items you mention have no bearing on distinguishing works from editions because they are not works or editions. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:33, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment related: Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Books#Clarifying_the_use_of_identifiers_for_editions_of_written_works_on_written_works_themselves. Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 18:10, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Symbol support vote.svg Support - Definitely. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 04:50, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Philadelphia Museum of Art person ID[edit]

   Ready Create
DescriptionIdentifier for a person or organization assigned by the Philadelphia Museum of Art
RepresentsPhiladelphia Museum of Art
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman or organization related to the collections of the Philadelphia Museum of Art
Allowed values[1-9]\d*
Example 1Marcel Duchamp15513
Example 2Mary Cassatt15388
Example 3Kara Walker14369
Planned useAdd PMA identifiers to existing items in WD for artists in the collection
Formatter URLhttps://www.philamuseum.org/collections/results.html?searchTxt=&bSuggest=1&searchNameID=$1
See alsoPhiladelphia Museum of Art ID (P4643)

Motivation[edit]

We would like to leverage and query the existing data in WD with artists in our collection. We've also been working to enhance and create WD records for around 200 African American artists such as Evangeline Montgomery and Margo Humphrey and would like to connect those records with our collection/data.

Discussion[edit]

This is my first time submitting a property proposal so please let me know if I've made any mistakes. Thank you in advance for your thoughts!  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by M00nchild00 (talk • contribs) at 21:55, 4 May 2020‎ (UTC).

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  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Infopetal (talk) 18:29, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @M00nchild00: this just seems to be a deeplink to the search of the museum which doesn't really include any information about the artists. No artist information to link to? Multichill (talk) 18:39, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Museum identifiers are great for documenting "has works in the collection" and supporting notablility of artists who may otherwise be lightly documented. - PKM (talk) 20:37, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support I currently use the old catalogs available on archive.org for attribution changes vs. inventory ids, and it would make this work much easier by highlighting current attributions. Jane023 (talk) 07:26, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 16:54, 6 May 2020 (UTC).
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. YULdigitalpreservation (talk) 14:23, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Wskent (talk) 16:20, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. bmidavaine (talk) 20:31, 8 May 2020 (UTC) (Taxonomist at PMA) This ID will be very useful in our linked data efforts as well as our person authority work
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. PMAlibcat (talk) (Cataloger at PMA) We're currently using Wikidata to make our collection of African American art more visible. This ID would be invaluable in that project.
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Jonhoppe (talk) (Digital Asset Librarian at the PMA) This property will be incredibly useful for linking assets across systems and to other authority controls 20:25, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

ID natural monuments in Landkreis Oberspreewald-Lausitz[edit]

   Ready Create
Descriptionidentifier for natural monuments in Landkreis Oberspreewald-Lausitz
Data typeExternal identifier
DomainNatural monuments in Landkreis Oberspreewald-Lausitz
Allowed values[0-9]{4}-[0-9]+
Example 1Q93421780 → 0102-1
Example 2Q93421779 → 0100-3
Example 3Q93421754 → 0103-2
Sourcehttp://www.osl-online.de/amtsblatt/index.php?ebene=496#gazette_9192
Planned usetransfer all natural monuments of Landkreis Oberspreewald-Lausitz to Wikidata and add the ID
Number of IDs in source>100

Motivation[edit]

all natural monuments in Landkreis Oberspreewald-Lausitz have a unique ID. I want to add this ID. Z thomas (talk) 06:47, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support --GPSLeo (talk) 09:44, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 23:36, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment is there really a separate ID scheme for each Landkreis / this Landkreis? Or can this ID be formulated wider (e.g. for the whole federal state)? Herzi Pinki (talk) 21:31, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
@Herzi Pinki: indeed every Landkreis has a separate structure to create the id. for example de:Liste der Naturdenkmale in Friesack (different Landkreis same federal state) they use letters and digits. if you look at the natural monuments it's more confusing as with the cultural heritage monuments --Z thomas (talk) 08:34, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
@Z thomas: is the id used to link to individual descriptions (is there an url-formatter)? Does the url-formatter depend also in its url structure on the Landkreis, or only in the number/ID? Or is it just a string you want a tight syntax check for (still wrong numbers possible while matching syntax)? --Herzi Pinki (talk) 08:45, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
@Herzi Pinki: Germany isn't as good as Austria :-) you can't create an url. it's just a string to identify the natural monuments. have a look into the "Amtsblatt für den Landkreis Oberspreewald-Lausitz; Nr. 12/2007. 14. Dezember 2007. It looks digital but it is an analog paper turned into a pdf. You even can't search for words like "Stieleiche" :-( --Z thomas (talk) 08:55, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Bookogs book ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptiona page in Bookogs database for describing a physical release of a book
Represents<Bookogs (Q65553791)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainversion, edition, or translation (Q3331189)
Allowed values\d+
Example 1list of Calvin and Hobbes books (Q429987)https://books.discogs.com/book/419701
Example 2Scum Culture (Q61113157)https://books.discogs.com/book/548104
Example 3Where the Crawdads Sing (Q65063529)https://books.discogs.com/book/699878
Example 4The Shadow of the Wind (Q52910)https://books.discogs.com/book/511049
Format and edit filter validation\d+
Sourcebooks.discogs.com
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Number of IDs in sourceabout 150,000 and growing
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://books.discogs.com/book/$1
See alsoBookogs credit ID, Bookogs work ID (proposed)

Motivation[edit]

For cases when an actual printed book or a magazine issue, with an ISBN, gets its hub on Wikidata, although (inlike in cases with Credit and Work) i don't think this is much needed and rather expect to see a hub for a written work included in the book. But i may be wrong. Maybe everyone will want to connect all issued books IDs to a novel, as i see actual ISBNs present in the Wikidata database right now and they relate to literary works (that may each be reissued with many different ISBNs). So i even failed to come up with a good example (also because the Bookogs database is far from being complete right now), like the example #3 says on Wikidata: ‘instance of book (Q571)’ but shouldn't it rather be changed to ‘instance of novel (Q8261)’? Maybe someone will know better what to do here, please discuss. — 188.123.231.0 15:18, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

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T.seppelt (talk) 21:00, 18 February 2016 (UTC) Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 11:59, 13 March 2017 (UTC) GerardM (talk) 15:58, 26 March 2017 (UTC) Jonathan Groß (talk) 17:52, 26 March 2017 (UTC) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits Jneubert (talk) 13:47, 29 April 2017 (UTC) Framawiki (please notify !) (talk) Sic19 (talk) 20:42, 12 July 2017 (UTC) Wikidelo (talk) 21:15, 8 May 2018 (UTC) salgo60 Salgo60 (talk) 07:09, 10 June 2018 (UTC) ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:52, 22 August 2018 (UTC) PKM (talk) 19:40, 23 August 2018 (UTC) Ettorerizza (talk) 06:44, 8 October 2018 (UTC) Fuzheado (talk) 03:47, 19 December 2018 (UTC) Daniel Mietchen (talk) 16:30, 7 April 2019 (UTC) Eihel (talk) 15:13, 19 June 2019 (UTC) NAH (talk) 20:29, 18 August 2019 (UTC) Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 21:48, 3 October 2019 (UTC) Epìdosis (talk) 23:49, 22 November 2019 (UTC) Sotho Tal Ker (talk) 00:52, 1 May 2020 (UTC) Bargioni (talk) 09:48, 02 May 2020 (UTC) --Carlobia (talk) 14:34, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

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Discussion[edit]

  • BA candidate.svg Weak oppose Symbol neutral vote.svg Neutral @188.123.231.0: While I support this in principle the proposal needs fixing. The domain is wrong and should be version, edition, or translation (Q3331189). The examples are also wrong - or at least not consistent, some cases you use it on edition, some on work, and the first example is linking a liste of books to a specific edition of a book. Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 23:34, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
    • Thanks, and indeed, that's because i'm not sure whether each physical edition of a book will have its own item in Wikidata or not (i'd rather think not), and i don't know how to find such books here it they are already present. Work ID is probably sufficient. — 188.123.231.26 09:10, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
      • I think the property is good to have, don't think we should remove it, I will find better examples a bit later and fix the proposal - I changed to neutral to not hold up if others vote for now. Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 21:15, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

BaGLAMa GID[edit]

   Ready Create
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainany Wikidata item for an organization with a BaGLAMa stats page
Allowed valuesthe GIDs are all in for form of an integer, currently all 3 or fewer digits (but presumably could expand)
Example 1Archives New Zealand (Q4787285)413
Example 2The Wallace Collection (Q1327919)131
Example 3Sain (Records) Ltd (Q3396886)293
Sourcehttps://tools.wmflabs.org/glamtools/baglama2/
Number of IDs in sourceseveral hundred, currently
Formatter URLhttps://tools.wmflabs.org/glamtools/baglama2/#gid=$1

Motivation[edit]

Beat Estermann Vladimir Alexiev Ilya Sadads Astinson Strakhov Zeromonk Spinster Wittylama Daniel Mietchen Susannaanas Sic19 Jason.nlw Carlojoseph14 YULdigitalpreservation MB-one Ouvrard MartinPoulter Missvain VIGNERON Ainali Birk Weiberg Pmt Mauricio V. Genta Smallison ProtoplasmaKid 2le2im-bdc Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton Ivanhercaz VisbyStar Patafisik Beireke1 Vahur Puik Ettorerizza Sp!ros Alexmar983 Epìdosis Buccalon Mrtngrsbch Eothan Giaccai NAH User:Fralambert Ipoellet

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Multichill (talk) 11:28, 8 August 2014 (UTC), focus on the Netherlands Husky (talk) 11:38, 8 August 2014 (UTC) - Cool, i'd like to focus on building tools to visualise progress. Spinster (talk) 07:00, 9 August 2014 (UTC) Happy to help with manual finetuning that can't be done by bots, and anything else on the 'soft/wet' side of this project. I'm dreaming of complete artists' oeuvres on Wikidata! Rich Farmbrough (talk) Time to learn2Wikidata Jheald (talk) 12:33, 17 August 2014 (UTC) Kippelboy (talk) 07:01, 21 August 2014 (UTC) (Focus on Catalan paintings (subdivision of Spain) Mushroom (talk) 12:27, 21 August 2014 (UTC) Jane023 (talk) 09:11, 3 October 2014 (UTC) work on Dutch 17th-century paintings and landscapes of Haarlem; Most recently, the sum of all "attributed" paintings by Frans Hals, which is nearly done Missvain (talk) 18:51, 18 October 2014 (UTC) (talk) 13:27, 15 November 2014 (UTC) Zolo (talk) 14:57, 23 November 2014 (UTC) Beat Estermann (talk) 10:33, 3 December 2014 (UTC) (Focus on Swiss heritage institutions) Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 15:07, 23 January 2015 (UTC) KRLS (talk) 11:26, 11 February 2015 (UTC) (Focus on Catalan area museums) DivadH (talk) 11:35, 1 March 2015 (UTC) ,happy to help out with any questions in regards to the Europeana API, how to best query it, and/or our metadata Xcia0069 (talk) 11:49, 8 March 2015 (UTC), Work on data related to Gianlorenzo Bernini and Artemisia Gentileschi. Work at Europeana too ! Susannaanas (talk) 07:29, 9 March 2015 (UTC) Wittylama (talk) 17:29, 20 March 2015 (UTC) Fabrice Florin (talk) 02:35, 26 June 2015 (UTC) I can help in California later this year. Vaughn88 (talk) 15:58, 15 July 2015 (UTC) I can help! Raymond Ellis (talk) 19:31, 17 August 2015 (UTC) Hsarrazin (talk) 14:11, 29 August 2015 (UTC) - will give a hand with Creators and AC :) louis-garden (talk) 14:21, 31 August 2015 (UTC) for italian paintings (XIIe-XVIIe) Olivier (talk) 21:46, 8 September 2015 (UTC) Kopiersperre (talk) 11:33, 20 November 2015 (UTC) ProtoplasmaKid (talk) 03:49, 23 February 2016 (UTC) Micru (talk) 11:19, 29 February 2016 (UTC) Stuart Prior (WMUK) (talk) 11:04, 28 April 2016 (UTC) Hannolans (talk) 23:14, 22 October 2016 (UTC) Geraki (talk) 09:52, 24 October 2016 (UTC) (Focus on Greece) PatHadley (talk) 12:16, 3 January 2017 (UTC) MartinPoulter (talk) 14:54, 11 January 2017 (UTC) Working to get data from the University of Oxford (Q34433) and its component institutions shared on Wikidata. Pablísima (talk) 18:07, 8 February 2017 (UTC) Carl Ha (talk) 22:10, 9 February 2017 (UTC) Marsupium (talk) 19:44, 22 May 2017 (UTC) Mauricio V. Genta (talk) 16:15, 26 June 2017 (UTC) Shani Evenstein (talk) 10:26, 26 July 2017 (UTC) Nasty nas (talk) 07:45, 24 August 2017 (UTC) Bodhisattwa (talk) 14:28, 28 October 2017 (UTC) Joalpe (talk) 18:39, 9 November 2017 (UTC) Fuzheado (talk) 18:33, 30 November 2017 (UTC) Sarasays (talk) 20:00, 1 December 2017 (UTC) Thierry Caro (talk) 07:30, 9 December 2017 (UTC) John Samuel 18:29, 21 December 2017 (UTC) Jklamo (talk) 12:06, 31 December 2017 (UTC) Reosarevok (talk) 10:28, 15 February 2018 (UTC), focus on Estonia Ambrosia10 (talk) 19:48, 19 February 2018 (UTC) Subsublibrary (talk) 03:17, 22 February 2018 (UTC) Martingggg (talk) 07:00, 22 February 2018 (UTC), focus on Argentine and Hispanic America Kruusamägi (talk) 16:42, 13 March 2018 (UTC), focus on Estonia SIryn (talk) 10:36, 9 June 2018 (UTC) Jarekt (talk) 13:49, 7 September 2018 (UTC), focus on moving metadata from Commons to Wikidata Walkuraxx (talk) 10:00, 30 November 2018 (UTC) Omotecho (talk) 22:11, 21 January 2019 (UTC), focus on Japan GualdimG (talk) 16:19, 19 February 2019 (UTC) Léna (talk) 08:57, 4 April 2019 (UTC) Yann (talk) 09:53, 9 June 2019 (UTC) Paul Cézanne (Q35548) for a start... Abbe98 (talk) 19:25, 18 June 2019 (UTC) Daniel Mietchen (talk) 15:36, 23 July 2019 (UTC) Have been doing small things here and there — especially improving items around what is depicted on paintings — so might as well sign up. Jbandrews (talk) 02:14, 16 October 2019 (UTC) Product Manager at the Art Institute of Chicago. Amadalvarez (talk) 06:19, 19 October 2019 (UTC) Meresquared (talk) 14:51, 22 October 2019 (UTC) I'm interested in adding depiction descriptions to paintings, and improving data around women and POC. Clifford Anderson (talk) 01:47, 25 November 2019 (UTC) --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 21:14, 17 March 2020 (UTC) focus on danish paintings.

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BaGLAMa is the tool on wmflabs from Magnus Manske that provides page view statistics for (mostly) GLAMs that have done bulk uploads to Wikimedia Commons. This property would allow us to associate the statistics page with the corresponding institution's items. This could be useful for making lists and summaries for overall GLAM work on Wikimedia. Dominic (talk) 21:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Liszt Academy Lexikon person ID[edit]

   Ready Create
RepresentsFranz Liszt Academy of Music (Q847099)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainitem, Q5
Allowed values[1-9][0-9]{3}
Example 1Károly Gianicelli (Q14836168)1827
Example 2Franz Liszt (Q41309)1779
Example 3Béla Bartók (Q83326)1861
Sourcehttps://zeneakademia.hu/lexikon_nagy_elodok/
Mix'n'match3581
Number of IDs in source200
Expected completeness100%
Formatter URLhttps://zeneakademia.hu/lexikon_nagy_elodok/lexikon-$1

Motivation[edit]

Found the claim instrument = cello at Q14836168 imported from Esperanto Wikipedia [3], the eowiki article is a creation made in one edit in 2019. The corresponding huwiki article also has a category cellist, but the text doesn't mention it.

The human has two IDs, BMLO which claims "Kontrabassist" and PIM which does not look helpful here. The huwiki article links to https://zeneakademia.hu/nagy_tanarok-hires_regi_tanitvanyok/38 which gives 404.

There finally I found https://zeneakademia.hu/lexikon_nagy_elodok/lexikon-1827 - authoritative information from the Hungarian Liszt Academy. ... and no indication for "csello"/"csellist" so far.

Improve Wikidata verifiability by including this property.

MrProperLawAndOrder (talk) 09:40, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Worlds Without End author ID[edit]

   Ready Create
Descriptionidentifier for authors at the website Worlds Without End
RepresentsWorlds Without End (Q94576039)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman (Q5)
Allowed values\d+
Example 1Douglas Adams (Q42)1430
Example 2Robert A. Heinlein (Q123078)7
Example 3Diane Duane (Q445930)1630
Sourcehttps://www.worldswithoutend.com/authors_index.asp
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Mix'n'match2934
Number of IDs in source6000+
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttps://www.worldswithoutend.com/author.asp?ID=$1
See alsoInternet Speculative Fiction Database author ID (P1233), The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction ID (P5357), Fantastic Fiction author ID (P5408)

Motivation[edit]

Worlds Without End (Q94576039) is a database and community for speculative fiction (science fiction, fantasy, and horror books) with an extensive author database. This property would add to Wikidata's coverage of fiction. Trivialist (talk) 11:04, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Aubrey
Viswaprabha (talk)
Micru
Tpt
EugeneZelenko
User:Jarekt
Maximilianklein (talk)
Don-kun
VIGNERON (talk)
Jane023 (talk) 08:21, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Alexander Doria (talk)
Ruud 23:15, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
Kolja21
arashtitan
Jayanta Nath
Yann (talk)
John Vandenberg (talk) 09:14, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
JakobVoss
Danmichaelo (talk) 19:30, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
Ravi (talk)
Mvolz (talk) 08:21, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Hsarrazin (talk) 07:56, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Accurimbono
Mushroom
PKM (talk) 19:58, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
Revi 16:54, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
Giftzwerg 88 (talk) 23:36, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Almondega (talk) 00:17, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
maxlath
Jura to help sort out issues with other projects
Epìdosis
Skim (talk) 13:52, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
Marchitelli (talk) 12:29, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
Alexmar983 (talk) 23:53, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 10:44, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Chiara (talk) 14:15, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Thibaut120094 (talk) 20:31, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
Ivanhercaz | Discusión Plume pen w.png 15:30, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
YULdigitalpreservation (talk) 17:35, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
User:Jc3s5h
PatHadley (talk) 21:51, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
Erica (ohmyerica) (talk) 19:26, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
User:Timmy_Finnegan
Mauricio V. Genta (talk) 05:38, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
Sam Wilson 09:24, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Sic19 (talk) 22:25, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
Andreasmperu
MartinPoulter (talk) 09:21, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
ThelmadatterThelmadatter (talk) 01:11, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
Zeroth (talk) 15:01, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Emeritus
Ankry
Beat Estermann (talk) 20:07, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
Shilonite - specialize in cataloging Jewish & Hebrew books
Elena moz
Oa01 (talk) 10:52, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
Maria zaos (talk) 11:39, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
Wikidelo (talk) 13:07, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Mfchris84 (talk) 10:08, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
Mlemusrojas (talk) 3:36, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
salgo60 Salgo60 (talk) 12:42, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Dick Bos (talk) 14:35, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
Marco Chemello (BEIC) (talk) 07:26, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Harshrathod50
 徵國單  (討論 🀄) (方孔錢 💴) 14:35, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
Alicia Fagerving (WMSE)
Louize5 (talk) 20:05, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
Viztor (talk) 05:48, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
RaymondYee (talk) 21:12, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
Merrilee (talk) 22:14, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
Kcoyle (talk) 22:17, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
JohnMarkOckerbloom (talk) 22:58, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
Tris T7 TT me
Helmoony (talk) 19:49, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Naunc1
Shooke (talk) 19:17, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
DarwIn (talk) 14:58, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
I am Davidzdh. 16:08, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Juandev (talk) 10:03, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
Buccalon (talk) 15:51, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
MJLTalk 16:48, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Rosiestep (talk) 20:26, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
Dcflyer (talk) 12:23, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
Susanna Giaccai (talk) 05:56, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
Asaf Bartov (talk) 19:03, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
Msuicat (talk) 17:58, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
SilentSpike (talk) 15:27, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
TheFireBender (talk) 12:40, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Jumtist (talk) 21:45, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
Irønie
Openly
DrLibraryCat (talk) 18:25, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
ShawnMichael100 (talk) 20:04, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Lmbarrier (talk) 19:47, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
Satpal Dandiwal (talk) 17:32, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
Rosiestep (talk) 17:08, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
AndrewNJ
Franzsimon
Vladis13
Clifford Anderson (talk) 01:37, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Discostu (talk) 09:02, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
Subodh (talk)
Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 14:02, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Алексей Скрипник (talk) 15:31, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
MLeonStewart (talk) 18:04, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
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  • Symbol support vote.svg Support --Trade (talk) 00:04, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Ubisoft Store game ID[edit]

Descriptionidentifier for an game on Ubisoft Store site
RepresentsUbisoft Store (Q94582474)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainvideo game (Q7889)
Example 1Watch Dogs (Q1371726)56c494ae88a7e300458b4d72
Example 2Brothers in Arms: Earned in Blood (Q865237)575ffd92a3be1633568b4d28
Example 3Far Cry (Q337865)56c4948488a7e300458b4740
Sourcehttps://store.ubi.com
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned usePutting value to games available from the Ubisoft Store site.
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://store.ubi.com/game?pid=$1
See alsoSteam application ID (P1733)

Motivation[edit]

Property for games included in Ubisoft Store. Eurohunter (talk) 22:41, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support--Trade (talk) 00:06, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
@Eurohunter, Trade: Ubisoft Store game ID (P8268) has been created. Pamputt (talk) 15:47, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

LGBT Danmark online dictionary ID[edit]

   Ready Create
Descriptionidentificator in LGBT Danmark's online dictionary
RepresentsLGBT Danmark online dictionary (Q94592969)
Data typeExternal identifier
DomainLGBT (Q17884), human sexuality (Q154136)
Example 1aromanticism (Q52746927)aromantik
Example 2asexuality (Q724351)aseksualitet
Example 3bisexuality (Q43200)biseksual
Example 4genderqueer (Q12964198)genderqueer
Format and edit filter validation\w+
Sourcehttp://lgbt.dk/online-lgbt-ordbog-komplet-begrebsliste/
Number of IDs in source~
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttp://lgbt.dk/ordbog/$1/

Motivation[edit]

Online dictionary operated by the danish organization LGBT Danmark

Amir (talk) 09:13, 17 June 2014 (UTC) ★ → Airon 90 10:29, 17 June 2014 (UTC) --Another Believer (talk) 15:00, 17 June 2014 (UTC) I am not terribly familiar with Wikidata, but offering my support! Thepwnco (talk) 16:05, 17 June 2014 (UTC) Zellfaze (talk) 16:11, 17 June 2014 (UTC) anjali (talk) 17:31, 17 June 2014 (UTC) Gobōnobō + c 00:25, 18 June 2014 (UTC) OR drohowa (talk) 15:37, 18 June 2014 (UTC) Blue Rasberry (talk) 13:43, 20 June 2014 (UTC) SarahStierch (talk) 16:47, 30 June 2014 (UTC) (Been adding LGBT stuff on Wikidata for months, had no clue this existed!) MRG90 (talk) 10:15, 19 August 2014 (UTC) Ecritures (talk) 16:37, 17 July 2016 (UTC) Erica (ohmyerica) (talk) 19:19, 2 August 2016 (UTC) Shikeishu (talk) 22:28, 17 September 2016 (UTC) OwenBlacker (talk) 20:34, 11 March 2017 (UTC) Ash Crow (talk) John Samuel 17:33, 2 July 2018 (UTC) SilanocSilanoc (talk) 12:18, 17 November 2018 (UTC) Daniel Mietchen (talk) 22:45, 2 February 2019 (UTC) Tdombos (talk) 22:14, 27 May 2019 (UTC) Mardetanha (talk) 17:01, 13 June 2019 (UTC) Theredproject (talk) 23:41, 20 June 2019 (UTC) Davidpar (talk) 20:30, 7 July 2019 (UTC) Gerarus (talk) 13:10, 1 August 2019 (UTC) Sweet kate (talk) 16:33, 4 August 2019 (UTC) Nattes à chat (talk) 22:45, 3 November 2019 (UTC) Lucas Werkmeister (talk) Hiplibrarianship (talk) 23:05, 8 March 2020 (UTC) Jamie7687 (talk) 22:27, 6 May 2020 (UTC) ...

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  • Check the represents field, requires an item for LGBT Danmark dictionary. It seems one does not exist yet. Blue Rasberry (talk) 00:04, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
Done. Do you know any more LGBT dictionarys than can be added to WD? @Bluerasberry:--Trade (talk) 11:57, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
@Trade: I was trying to think of where to find other dictionaries. So many exist but we also need a dictionary which is online with stable URLs for each entry, and no, I do not know others like that. HIV/AIDS research frequently writes layman guides to distribute in LGBT+ communities, like HVTN's guide or one from AIDSInfo, but these are not structured data. I was looking over this dictionary you found and thinking that the entire world is in error except for these people, because a dictionary which is not interlinked with structured data is mostly useless. No, I do not have ideas now, but I now see what I am supposed to find. Thanks for sharing this. Thanks for the update too.
Symbol support vote.svg Support Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:22, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Norwegian war prisoner register ID[edit]

   Ready Create
DescriptionIdentifikation number in the Norwegian prisoner register 1940 -1945
RepresentsNorwegian war prisoner register (Q93847699)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman (Q5)
Allowed values\d{5}
Example 1Einar Gerhardsen (Q164346) 22643
Example 2Abelone Møgster (Q707185) 38661
Example 3Herman Sachnowitz (Q11975185) 30380
Example 4Arne Laudal (Q4794617) 7169
Sourcehttps://www.fanger.no/
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned useIn infoboxes ans authentications for biographies
Number of IDs in source44000
Formatter URLhttps://www.fanger.no/persons/$1
See alsoNorwegian war sailor register person ID (P4972), Vaare falne ID (P7717), Norwegian war refugees register ID (P5871)

Motivering/begrunnelse[edit]

Norwegian war prisonerregister ID is a simple authority control property to link Wikidata items to entries for political prisoners from norway prisoned or placed in consentration camps during worldwar II. this register also gives the camp or prison where the person was placed and the dates. There are other registers in addition giving a good identification of the Norwegian people directly involved in ww II. Pmt (talk) 16:59, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

(Legg inn motivering/begrunnelse for forslaget til denne egenskapen her.) Pmt (talk) 17:30, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Monasteries in the Netherlands until 1800 ID[edit]

   Ready Create
Data typeExternal identifier
Allowed values[A-Z]\d\d
Example 1Q2290305U27
Example 2Begijnhof (Q19839277)U14
Example 3Q2442001D09
Example 4Q19288062A01
Sourcehttps://www2.fgw.vu.nl/oz/monasteries/index.php
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned useAdd relevant identifiers to relevant pages, when I work on them for other reasons
Number of IDs in source700
Formatter URLhttps://www2.fgw.vu.nl/oz/monasteries/kdetails.php?ID=$1

Motivation[edit]

This is an authoritative reference source for medieval and early-modern monasteries in the modern-day Netherlands. Medievalipm (talk) 11:15, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Library classifications' IDs for topics[edit]

Dewey Decimal Classification[edit]

Library of Congress Classification[edit]

Universal Decimal Classification[edit]

Motivation[edit]

Previous discussions: Wikidata:Identifier migration/1#good to convert; Property talk:P1036#Distinct value constraint and conversion to external-id datatype

So, this is a major problem:

  • The three previous properties where originally designed to be used on topic-pages (as the proposals and the examples demonstrate) as external identifiers, in order to show that one topic is attributed a single identifier in one classification (e.g. social science (Q34749) is designed as 300 or H or 3). Obviously these properties have unique value constraint. The fact that these properties should have external-id datatype (because they are external identifiers) and should have unique value constraint is demonstrated by the fact that Chinese Library Classification (P1189) and Basisklassifikation (P5748) have these characteristics, just as Regensburg Classification (P1150) (ready to be converted) and Colon Classification (ready to be created).
  • However, these three properties have been widely used not to indicate the correspondence between a topic-item on Wikidata and a topic in these classifications, but to classify single works and editions. This is the reason of the high number of unique constraint violations, which prevented their conversion from datatype string to datatype external-id.

Now, given that:

  • external-id datatype and unique value constraint are appropriate to properties matching topic-item to topic in classification
  • string datatype and no unique value constraint are appropriate to properties matching single work-item or edition-item to classification

it is evident that three new properties are needed.

Given that the old properties are widely used in work-items and edition-items,

  • it is probably more convenient (option A, according to which I compiled the boxes above) moving to the three new properties here proposed the topic-values, so that the old properties maintain the string datatype while the new properties assume the external-id datatype and inherit the unique value constraint, which will be removed from the old ones;
  • obviously, if for some reason you consider better to keep topics in the old properties, it is possible the opposite (option B): creating the new properties with string datatype and no unique value constraint and moving to them work-values and edition-values, then migrating the old properties to external-id datatype.

Please vote explicitly for option A or B; if not specified, the vote will be considered for A, according to which I compiled the boxes above. Epìdosis 22:21, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Jason.nlw
VIGNERON
Delphine Dallison
Alicia Fagerving (WMSE)
Louize5
Ijon
Susanna Giaccai
Nomen ad hoc
BeatrixBelibaste
Simon Cobb
LadyofShalott
Epìdosis
Alexmar983

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T.seppelt (talk) 21:00, 18 February 2016 (UTC) Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 11:59, 13 March 2017 (UTC) GerardM (talk) 15:58, 26 March 2017 (UTC) Jonathan Groß (talk) 17:52, 26 March 2017 (UTC) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits Jneubert (talk) 13:47, 29 April 2017 (UTC) Framawiki (please notify !) (talk) Sic19 (talk) 20:42, 12 July 2017 (UTC) Wikidelo (talk) 21:15, 8 May 2018 (UTC) salgo60 Salgo60 (talk) 07:09, 10 June 2018 (UTC) ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:52, 22 August 2018 (UTC) PKM (talk) 19:40, 23 August 2018 (UTC) Ettorerizza (talk) 06:44, 8 October 2018 (UTC) Fuzheado (talk) 03:47, 19 December 2018 (UTC) Daniel Mietchen (talk) 16:30, 7 April 2019 (UTC) Eihel (talk) 15:13, 19 June 2019 (UTC) NAH (talk) 20:29, 18 August 2019 (UTC) Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 21:48, 3 October 2019 (UTC) Epìdosis (talk) 23:49, 22 November 2019 (UTC) Sotho Tal Ker (talk) 00:52, 1 May 2020 (UTC) Bargioni (talk) 09:48, 02 May 2020 (UTC) --Carlobia (talk) 14:34, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

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Mattsenate (talk) 13:11, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
KHammerstein (WMF) (talk) 13:15, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
Mitar (talk) 13:17, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
Mvolz (talk) 18:07, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
Daniel Mietchen (talk) 18:09, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
Merrilee (talk) 13:37, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Pharos (talk) 14:09, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
DarTar (talk) 15:46, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
HLHJ (talk) 09:11, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:02, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
Micru (talk) 20:11, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
JakobVoss (talk) 12:23, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 02:06, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 09:24, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
Abecker (talk) 23:35, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:21, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Mike Linksvayer (talk) 23:26, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
Kopiersperre (talk) 20:33, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
Jonathan Dugan (talk) 21:03, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
Hfordsa (talk) 19:26, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 15:09, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
Runner1928 (talk) 03:25, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Pete F (talk)
econterms (talk) 13:51, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Sj (talk)
author  TomT0m / talk page
guillom (talk) 21:57, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
·addshore· talk to me! 17:43, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
Bodhisattwa (talk) 16:08, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Ainali (talk) 16:51, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Shani Evenstein (talk) 21:29, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
Skim (talk) 07:17, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
PKM (talk) 23:19, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
Ocaasi (talk) 22:19, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
Trilotat Trilotat (talk) 15:43, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
NAH
Iwan.Aucamp
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LeadSongDog (talk) 21:42, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
RobLa-WMF (talk) 01:24, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
Kosboot (talk) 20:45, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
Sydney Poore/FloNight♥♥♥♥ 15:10, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
Peaceray (talk) 18:40, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
PKM (talk) 16:29, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Aubrey (talk) 12:42, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
Chiara (talk) 12:47, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
Marchitelli (talk) 19:02, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
YULdigitalpreservation (talk) 17:44, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
Satdeep Gill (talk) 14:59, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Pintoch (talk) 09:44, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
Raymond Ellis (talk) 16:06, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
Crazy1880 (talk) 18:21, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
T Arrow (talk) 07:55, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
GerardM (talk) 08:25, 30 July 2017 (UTC) With a particular interest of opening up sources about Botany and opening up any freely licensed publications.
Clifford Anderson (talk) 18:26, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
Jsamwrites (talk) 07:52, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk) 09:52, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
Capankajsmilyo (talk) 18:32, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
Hsarrazin (talk) 20:41, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
Mlemusrojas (talk) 10:15, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
Samat (talk)
Ivanhercaz Plume pen w.png (Talk) 20:27, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
Simon Cobb (User:Sic19 - talk page) 21:20, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
Mahdimoqri (talk) 20:22, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
Maria zaos (talk) 18:45, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Jaireeodell (talk) 14:07, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
Egon Willighagen (talk) 12:29, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
RobinMelanson (talk) 2:13, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 03:02, 4 December 2018 (UTC) interested, in particular because of TRR project https://m.wikidata.org/wiki/Q56259739
Maxlath (talk) 18:36, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
Dcflyer (talk) 21:38, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
Trilotat Trilotat (talk) 15:39, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
Mfchris84 (talk) 05:37, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
Salgo60 (talk)
Walkuraxx (talk) 14:58, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
NAH
FULBERT (talk) 17:14, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
Wolfgang8741 (talk) 20:35, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Csisc (talk) 17:46, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
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@Jura1: suggested a very interesting comparison between these three cases and Iconclass notation (P1256)/depicts Iconclass notation (P1257), which is worth mentioning here. --Epìdosis 17:26, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Oppose all If exiting properties are being misused, the incorrect uses should be removed (or migrated to new properties; by a bot if necessary). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:49, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
    @Pigsonthewing: In fact option B is actually proposing that the incorrect uses should be "migrated to new properties". Which is the problem? --Epìdosis 22:52, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
  • It took me some minutes to read carefully this issue that I did not know and I Symbol support vote.svg Support the effort. I trust the first procedural option if it easier.--Alexmar983 (talk) 23:27, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
  • In general, it seems like it is more important to maintain the principle that properties' meanings should not change, than to change them (and break all of the entity-matching that had been done using the intended property meaning) just because there are misuses. If at all practicable, Option B actually seems like the better solution to me, even if it is more work for Wikidata. Dominic (talk) 23:46, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Hard question, thanks Epìdosis to look into that. If I understood everything correctly, I think I prefer the option B which is a bit harder but cleaner. Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 07:10, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Very important issue to be fixed as soon as possible. Thank you Epìdosis. I would prefer Option B, even if it will take more efforts to be developed. --Carlobia (talk) 09:56, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting question.svg Question these three properties have been widely used not to indicate the correspondence between a topic-item on Wikidata and a topic in these classifications
    Do we really *need* to represent those relationship ? If it’s the case that Wikidata knows that a topic is a subtopic of another one, using an existing hierarchical property like subclass of (P279) or something … If algebra is a subtopic of mathematics, and mathematics are say 500 in dewey classification, then algebra could be classified as 500 naturally. Are’nt most if not all of those statements just a variant of this argument hence redundant or worse, harmful ? Could not we instead write a few queries to retrieve the same information and build a better wikidata-ish topic classification, justified (sourced) by the topic relationship in external classifications ? author  TomT0m / talk page 11:02, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
    @TomT0m: I substantially agree, but I don't understand which consequence you are drawing from the reasoning: algebra (Q3968) Dewey Decimal Classification (P1036) "512", so cannot be inferred from mathematics (Q395) Dewey Decimal Classification (P1036) "500". Are you maybe saying that we can delete all library-classification-statements from work items since we can leave them only in topic items, linking to them with main subject (P921)? This would seem reasonable to me, but cannot be done in a simple way, so it would be better first migrating to a new property the IDs in work items and then gradually substituting these new properties with main subject (P921) whenever possible. --Epìdosis 11:38, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support I slightly prefer option (A) but one way or another I do believe this needs to be sorted out. ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:28, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. I vote for option B. -- Bargioni 🗣 18:00, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. I agree with ArthurPSmith. Option A is a better choice. --Csisc (talk) 01:52, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Let's summarize: as of now, there are 5 votes for option B (Dominic, VIGNERON, Carlobia, Bargioni and I, since I've been convinced by VIGNERON), 6 with the unclear vote of Pigsonthewing (who said "migrated to new properties"), against 3 votes for option A (Alexmar983, ArthurPSmith, Csisc). If there is no other vote, I think we can proceed on Tuesday 26th enacting option B. --Epìdosis 17:11, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Symbol support vote.svg Support the conversion (either A or B) but with some clarifications (@Epìdosis: please consider):

  • The Work props should also be external-id NOT string, simply without Single-value or Unique constraints. Consider that depicts Iconclass notation (P1257) is an external-id. This will allow us to have the nice external links
  • The prop names should mention the system (as in A), eg "Dewey's topic", "Dewey's classification for work", "UDC topic", "UDC classification for work". We should not use generic names that can be confusing --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 09:51, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
    @Vladimir Alexiev: Very good objections, thanks! I effectively agree about datatype (always external-id), I've updated the boxes above; I will clarify labels and descriptions post-creation, of course! --Epìdosis 09:56, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
    OK, restored string datatype for IDs of single works. --Epìdosis 14:22, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

ID of a song in the Montreux Jazz Festival database[edit]

   Ready Create
DescriptionIdentifier of a song performed during the Montreux Jazz Festival
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainsong (Q7366)
Allowed values[0-9]+
Example 1Cocaine (Q2725356) → 29630 (https://mjf-database.epfl.ch/public/songs/29630)
Example 2Plug In Baby (Q374156) → 155124 (https://mjf-database.epfl.ch/public/songs/155124)
Example 3Stairway to Heaven (Q192023) → 31785 (https://mjf-database.epfl.ch/public/songs/31785)
Number of IDs in source48261
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttps://mjf-database.epfl.ch/public/songs/$1

Motivation[edit]

The Montreux Jazz Festival collected over year all the data about the song performed during the event. A link between MJF db and Wikidata would also interesting to describe all MJF performances here. Uallv (talk) 10:02, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Symbol support vote.svg Support Moebeus (talk) 22:38, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

ID of a person in the Montreux Jazz Festival database[edit]

   Ready Create
DescriptionIdentifier of a person in the Montreux Jazz Festival database
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman (Q5)
Allowed values[0-9]+
Example 1Matt Bellamy (Q190576) → 10743 (https://mjf-database.epfl.ch/public/persons/10743)
Example 2Josh Homme (Q1708504) → 155124 (https://mjf-database.epfl.ch/public/persons/4846)
Example 3Mark Lanegan (Q319277) → 31785 (https://mjf-database.epfl.ch/public/persons/32507)
Number of IDs in source17254
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttps://mjf-database.epfl.ch/public/persons/$1

Motivation[edit]

The Montreux Jazz Festival collected over year all the data about the people that made a performance during the events. A connection between MJF db and Wikidata would also interesting to describe all MJF performances and their perfomers here. Uallv (talk) 10:02, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support as a complement to other musician links ―Vahurzpu (talk) 23:27, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Symbol support vote.svg Support Moebeus (talk) 22:39, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Veldkruus ID[edit]

   Ready Create
Descriptionidentifier of an object in the Veldkruus database
Data typeExternal identifier
Allowed valuesnumber
Example 1Hagelkruis Sint Odiliënberg (Q14851311)4143
Example 2Moordkruis Uit de Plateel (Q17372917)3246
Example 3Saint Rosa Chapel (Q14727419)99
Example 4water well Gasthuis (Q17448825)3559
Example 5statue of Sacred Heart of Jesus Christ (Q17189335)354
Sourcehttps://veldkruus.nl/
Planned useimport of identifiers to existing items about churches, chapels, crosses and other objects in Limburg (NL)
Number of IDs in source4325
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://veldkruus.nl/kruis.php?kr=$1

Motivatie[edit]

Veldkruus is in Dutch Limburg the database/inventory for religious heritage as well as some other small heritage. They have built a database with data about crosses, chapels, churches, Maria statues, Jezus statues, and various other small heritage. Romaine (talk) 15:25, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

AustLit ID[edit]

   Ready Create
Descriptionidentifier at AustLit
RepresentsAustLit: The Australian Literature Resource (Q4822839)
Data typeExternal identifier
Allowed values[ACv]?\d+
Example 1Charles Wiltens Andrée Hayward (Q21536436)A27977
Example 2AustLit: The Australian Literature Resource (Q4822839)A70752
Example 3The Bulletin (Q3025604)C278241
Example 4The Secret River (Q7763079)C540523
Example 5Booker Prize (Q160082)v84
Example 6Foreign Soil (Q48965531)6593307
Sourcehttps://www.austlit.edu.au/search
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Number of IDs in source1,000,000+
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://www.austlit.edu.au/austlit/page/$1

Motivation[edit]

A very informative database maintained by The University of Queensland. INS Pirat (t | c) 16:14, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Bioweb Ecuador ID[edit]

   Under discussion
RepresentsBioweb Ecuador (Q94974628)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domaintaxonomy (Q8269924)
Example 1Pristimantis erythros (Q52333642)faunaweb/amphibiaweb/FichaEspecie/Pristimantis%20erythros
Example 2Hygrocybe conica (Q1434668)fungiweb/FichaEspecie/Hygrocybe%20conica
Example 3Neurolepis villosa (Q3761213)floraweb/librorojo/FichaEspecie/Neurolepis%20villosa
Sourcehttps://bioweb.bio/
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Number of IDs in source~9000
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttps://bioweb.bio/$1

Motivation[edit]

Bioweb Ecuador (Q94974628) is an online database about ecuadorian species (animals, plants and fungus) that has so many info, like distribution, conservation status and taxonomy. In some species, mainly amphibians, there are more info like description and ecology. Mr. Fulano! Talk 00:54, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

99of9
Achim Raschka (talk)
Andrawaag (talk)
Brya (talk)
CanadianCodhead (talk)
Canley
Circeus
Dan Koehl (talk)
Daniel Mietchen (talk)
Enwebb
Faendalimas
FelixReimann (talk)
Infomuse (talk)
Infovarius (talk)
Jean-Marc Vanel
Joel Sachs
Klortho (talk)
Lymantria (talk)
MPF
Manojk
MargaretRDonald
Mellis (talk)
Michael Goodyear
Mr. Fulano (talk)
Nis Jørgensen
PEAK99
Peter Coxhead
PhiLiP
Andy Mabbett (talk)
Plantdrew
Prot D
pvmoutside
RaboKarbakian
Rod Page
Strobilomyces (talk)
Succu (talk)
TiagoLubiana (talk)
Tinm
Tom.Reding
TomT0m
Tommy Kronkvist (talk)
Tris T7 TT me
Tubezlob
William Avery
Minorax
Culex
Koala0090
Mike Krüger
Friesen5000
Salgo60
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FilmPolski.pl press collection ID[edit]

   Under discussion
RepresentsFilmPolski.pl (Q15672050)
Data typeExternal identifier
Allowed values[1-9]\d*
Example 1Avatar (Q24871)65180
Example 2Avatar 2 (Q3604746)75056
Example 3Emmy Award (Q123737)25118
Example 4Annecy International Animated Film Festival (Q1408677)10743
Example 5Lars von Trier (Q133730)27648
Sourcehttp://www.filmpolski.pl/rec/index.php/slowo
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Number of IDs in source18,000+ films, 30,000+ other entries (estimate)
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttp://www.filmpolski.pl/rec/index.php/rec/$1
See alsoFilmPolski.pl ID (P3495)

Motivation[edit]

A register of the articles on films and film industry in Polish print media grouped by a subject. This project and the Polish films' database are both maintained by the National Film School in Łódź but don't correlate with each other (some entries include a link to a corresponding page in the latter DB but never have a backlink). INS Pirat (t | c) 02:47, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

NTB ID[edit]

   Ready Create
Descriptionidentifier for a person or a theatrical production on the National Theatre Bucharest website
RepresentsIon Luca Caragiale National Theatre Bucharest (Q1138828)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman (Q5), actor (Q33999), theater director (Q3387717), theatre designer (Q26869657), drama play (Q2430899), performing arts production (Q43099500), spectacle (Q224530)
Example 1Tania Popa (Q76125092)tania-popa
Example 2Radu Afrim (Q11833532)radu-afrim
Example 3Dragos Buhagiar (Q12727023)dragos-buhagiar
Example 4Folia, Shakespeare & Co (Q92270086)folia-shakespeare-co
Example 5TaRaTaTam (Q90890307)dale-noastre-464
Example 6The Romanian whim (Q90137098)moftul-roman
Sourcehttps://www.tnb.ro/
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned useas authority control and identificator
Number of IDs in sourceunknown
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://www.tnb.ro/ro/$1
See alsoOSZMI ID (P6796)

Motivation[edit]

Property for people (198) and theatrical productions included in the NTB's website (the National Theatre Bucharest), a database in Romanian and English. - Coagulans (talk) 08:00, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Odeon ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifier for a person or a theatrical production on the Odeon Theatre's website
RepresentsOdeon Theatre (Q559214)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman (Q5), actor (Q33999), theater director (Q3387717), theatre designer (Q26869657), drama play (Q2430899), performing arts production (Q43099500), spectacle (Q224530)
Example 1Irina Mazanitis (Q87769124)irina-mazanitis
Example 2Silvian Vâlcu (Q71635741)silvian-valcu
Example 3Uppercase Print (Q88384988)tipografic-majuscul
Sourcehttp://www.teatrul-odeon.ro/
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned useas authority control and identificator
Number of IDs in source105
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttp://www.teatrul-odeon.ro/$1
See alsoOSZMI ID (P6796)

Motivation[edit]

Property for people (59) and theatrical productions (46) included in the Odeon Theatre's website, a database in Romanian and English. - Coagulans (talk) 11:55, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

This seems a rather small number of possible id's. Have you considered described at URL (P973)? ArthurPSmith (talk) 16:47, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
It would be the only identifier, especially for productions. The IMDb-like site for the Romanian theater, teatral.ro, is on the spam list, probably due to its commercial extension. It's unfair, many sites in this industry have such, e.g. IMDb has IMDb Pro. - Coagulans (talk) 18:35, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

ID of a concert in the Montreux Jazz Festival database[edit]

   Under discussion
DescriptionIdentifier of a concert in the Montreux Jazz Festival database
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainconcert (Q182832)
Allowed values[0-9]+
Example 1Ben Klock concert during Montreux Jazz Festival (Q94996551) → 5667 (https://mjf-database.epfl.ch/public/concerts/5667)
Example 2Queens of the Stone Age concert during Montreux Jazz Festival (Q94996810) → 5419 (https://mjf-database.epfl.ch/public/concerts/5419)
Example 3Tony Bennett & Lady Gaga concert during Montreux Jazz Festival (Q94996815) → 31785 (https://mjf-database.epfl.ch/public/concerts/4964)
Number of IDs in source4649
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttps://mjf-database.epfl.ch/public/concerts/$1

Motivation[edit]

The Montreux Jazz Festival collected over year all the data about concerts made over years. A connection between MJF db and Wikidata would also interesting to describe all MJF performances and their perfomers here. Uallv (talk) 10:02, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Symbol support vote.svg Support Oui Oui! Moebeus (talk) 22:38, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Britannica Kids articles[edit]

Britannica Kids' kids article ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifier for a kids article in the Britannica Kids
RepresentsBritannica Kids' kids article (Q95021515)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainitem
Allowed values[\w\-]+\/\d+
Example 1reproductive system (Q7895)reproductive-system/353707
Example 2Mexico City (Q1489)Mexico-City/345966
Example 3Internet (Q75)Internet/353293
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned useIncluding it on Authority control
Number of IDs in source~10000
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttps://kids.britannica.com/kids/article/$1
Robot and gadget jobsMaybe checking for 404 responses
See alsoEncyclopædia Britannica Online ID (P1417)

Britannica Kids' students article ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifier for a students article in the Britannica Kids
RepresentsBritannica Kids' students article (Q95023037)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainitem
Allowed values[\w\-]+\/\d+
Example 1reproductive system (Q7895)reproductive-system/276695
Example 2Mexico City (Q1489)Mexico-City/275817
Example 3Internet (Q75)Internet/311813
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned useIncluding it on Authority control
Number of IDs in source~10000
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttps://kids.britannica.com/students/article/$1
Robot and gadget jobsMaybe checking for 404 responses
See alsoEncyclopædia Britannica Online ID (P1417)

Britannica Kids' scholar article ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifier for a scholar article in the Britannica Kids
RepresentsBritannica Kids' scholars article (Q95024578)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainitem
Allowed values[\w\-]+\/\d+
Example 1reproductive system (Q7895)human-reproductive-system/110811
Example 2Mexico City (Q1489)Mexico-City/108721
Example 3Internet (Q75)Internet/1458
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned useIncluding it on Authority control
Number of IDs in source~10000
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttps://kids.britannica.com/scholars/article/$1
Robot and gadget jobsMaybe checking for 404 responses
See alsoEncyclopædia Britannica Online ID (P1417)

Motivación[edit]

Link to kids version of Britannica articles. --Tinker Bell 05:45, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Latin texts IDs[edit]

digilibLT work ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifier for a work in the digilibLT digital library
RepresentsdigilibLT (Q64219734)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainwritten work (Q47461344)
Allowed values\d{6}
Example 1Institutes (Q1229830)000645
Example 2Epitome of Roman History (Q87743334)000189
Example 3Passion of Saints Perpetua and Felicity (Q44227030)000592
Example 4Collectanea rerum memorabilium (Q3395604)000473
Sourcehttps://digiliblt.uniupo.it/testi.php
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned useprobably Mix'n'match
Number of IDs in source567
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttps://digiliblt.uniupo.it/opera.php?id=DLT$1
See alsodigilibLT author ID (P6862)

PHI Latin Texts work ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifier for a work in the PHI Latin Texts digital library
RepresentsPHI Latin Texts (Q64224598)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainwritten work (Q47461344)
Allowed values\d{1,4}\/\d{1,2}
Example 1Apologia (Q3620725)1212/1
Example 2De arboribus (Q15804864)845/2
Example 3Odusia (Q694030)94/1
Example 4De Agri Cultura (Q1180565)22/1
Sourcehttps://latin.packhum.org/browse
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned useprobably Mix'n'match
Number of IDs in sourceabout 1000
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttps://latin.packhum.org/loc/$1/0
See alsoPHI Latin Texts author ID (P6941)

Musisque Deoque work ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifier for a work in the Musisque Deoque digital library
RepresentsMusisque Deoque (Q65028987)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainwritten work (Q47461344)
Allowed values[A-Z]\
Example 1Eclogues (Q546203)VERG|eclo
Example 2Amphitryon (Q475025)PLAVT|amph
Example 3Liber spectaculorum (Q20552117)MART|spec
Example 4Mosella (Q1684171)AVSON|mose
Sourcehttp://mizar.unive.it/mqdq/public/indici/autori/tipo/crono
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned useprobably Mix'n'match
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttp://www.mqdq.it/texts/$1
See alsoMusisque Deoque author ID (P6999)

Motivation[edit]

Jura
Epìdosis
B20180
llywrch
Romulanus
Jahl de Vautban
Alexmar983

Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Ancient Rome Three new work IDs, related to the correspondent author IDs, for the main non-paywalled websites containing ancient Latin texts. Epìdosis 09:58, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support I was not expecting a unified proposal so I hope I did not miss some aspects while revising them all together.--Alexmar983 (talk) 16:07, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support --Gerwoman (talk) 16:10, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Noovie person ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifier for a person on the noovie.com site
RepresentsNoovie (Q95156465)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman (Q5), actor (Q33999)
Example 1Nicoletta Braschi (Q254462)nicoletta-braschi-69789
Example 2Annie Girardot (Q106443)annie-girardot-16202
Example 3Hanna Schygulla (Q28921)hanna-schygulla-47900
Sourcehttps://www.noovie.com
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned useas authority control and identificator
Number of IDs in sourceunknown
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://n.noovie.com/people/$1
See alsoMovieGe person ID (P7653)

Motivation[edit]

Property for actors included in noovie.com, a movie database in English. - Coagulans (talk) 01:10, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

LongTake person ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifier for a person on the longtake.it site
RepresentsLongTake (Q95236111)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman (Q5), actor (Q33999)
Example 1Giulietta Masina (Q106907)giulietta-masina
Example 2Yves Montand (Q106057)yves-montand
Example 3Ben Hollingsworth (Q2895467)benjamin-hollingsworth
Sourcehttps://www.longtake.it
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned useas authority control and identificator
Number of IDs in sourceunknown
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://www.longtake.it/personas/$1
See alsoMYmovies actor ID (P4779)

Motivation[edit]

Property for actors included in longtake.it, a movie database in Italian. - Coagulans (talk) 20:50, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

ESRB video game ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifier for a video game on ESRB's official website
RepresentsEntertainment Software Rating Board (Q191458)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainvideo game (Q7889)
Example 1Cyberpunk 2077 (Q3182559)36949
Example 2Manhunt 2 (Q1799879)27610, 23558, 23647
Example 3Postal 2 (Q1974968)8761
Sourcehttps://www.esrb.org
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned useas authority control and reference for ESRB rating (P852)
Number of IDs in sourceunknown
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://www.esrb.org/ratings/$1
See alsoESRB rating (P852)

Motivation[edit]

This property would make it much easier to add sources to ESRB rating (P852). ΛΧΣ21 Vacation9 John F. Lewis (talk) Bene* talk #Reaper (talk) Josve05a (talk) Chris Mason (talk) FunPika Arthena (talk) Wangxuan8331800 (talk) Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) Nicereddy (talk) Syum90 (talk) DrakeCaiman (talk) --George (Talk · Contribs · CentralAuth · Log) Andreasburmeister (talk) Danrok (talk) 18:20, 30 October 2015 (UTC) Macrike (talk) Dispenser (talk) 16:56, 7 July 2017 (UTC) --Zache (talk) 13:34, 12 July 2017 (UTC) Mohammed Adam (T) SharkD  Talk  06:41, 9 November 2017 (UTC) ZebaX2010 (talk) 00:49, 21 November 2017 (UTC) Sight Contamination (talk) Lewis Hulbert (talk) 20:26, 13 December 2017 (UTC) Jean-Fred (talk) 10:48, 28 February 2018 (UTC) Santer (talk) Cloaker416 (talk) 22:18, 12 June 2018 (UTC) Rampagingcarrot (talk) 19:57, 28 June 2018 (UTC) Diggr (talk) 08:07, 3 July 2018 (UTC) Harsh Rathod Poke me! 09:42, 7 July 2018 (UTC) Kirilloparma (talk) 00:30, 5 August 2018 (UTC) Sir Lothar (talk) 10:10, 10 August 2018 (UTC) Cwf97 (talk) 14:33, 22 October 2018 (UTC) Esteban16 (talk) 00:08, 27 October 2018 (UTC) Peterchanws Brasig Le Yota de Mars YotaMoteuchi (talk) 08:09, 22 May 2019 (UTC) Coloradohusky CptViraj BugWarp ʂɤɲ User:Nw520 Cynde Moya Dexxor PaulGorduiz106 Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Video games--Trade (talk) 22:38, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Australian Classification ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifier for a video game on Australian Classification Board's official website
RepresentsAustralian Classification (Q26708073)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domaincreative work (Q17537576)
Example 1Cyberpunk 2077 (Q3182559)cyberpunk-2077
Example 2Manhunt (Q853344)manhunt-4
Example 3Postal (Q700905)postal
Sourcehttps://www.classification.gov.au
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned useas authority control and reference for Australian Classification (P3156)
Number of IDs in sourceunknown
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://www.classification.gov.au/titles/$1
See alsoAustralian Classification (P3156)

Motivation[edit]

This property would make it much easier to add sources to Australian Classification (P3156).--Trade (talk) 14:33, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

ΛΧΣ21 Vacation9 John F. Lewis (talk) Bene* talk #Reaper (talk) Josve05a (talk) Chris Mason (talk) FunPika Arthena (talk) Wangxuan8331800 (talk) Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) Nicereddy (talk) Syum90 (talk) DrakeCaiman (talk) --George (Talk · Contribs · CentralAuth · Log) Andreasburmeister (talk) Danrok (talk) 18:20, 30 October 2015 (UTC) Macrike (talk) Dispenser (talk) 16:56, 7 July 2017 (UTC) --Zache (talk) 13:34, 12 July 2017 (UTC) Mohammed Adam (T) SharkD  Talk  06:41, 9 November 2017 (UTC) ZebaX2010 (talk) 00:49, 21 November 2017 (UTC) Sight Contamination (talk) Lewis Hulbert (talk) 20:26, 13 December 2017 (UTC) Jean-Fred (talk) 10:48, 28 February 2018 (UTC) Santer (talk) Cloaker416 (talk) 22:18, 12 June 2018 (UTC) Rampagingcarrot (talk) 19:57, 28 June 2018 (UTC) Diggr (talk) 08:07, 3 July 2018 (UTC) Harsh Rathod Poke me! 09:42, 7 July 2018 (UTC) Kirilloparma (talk) 00:30, 5 August 2018 (UTC) Sir Lothar (talk) 10:10, 10 August 2018 (UTC) Cwf97 (talk) 14:33, 22 October 2018 (UTC) Esteban16 (talk) 00:08, 27 October 2018 (UTC) Peterchanws Brasig Le Yota de Mars YotaMoteuchi (talk) 08:09, 22 May 2019 (UTC) Coloradohusky CptViraj BugWarp ʂɤɲ User:Nw520 Cynde Moya Dexxor PaulGorduiz106 Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Video games Thierry Caro 99of9 Canley Mattinbgn Kerry Raymond Samwilson JarrahTree ScottDavis Oronsay Pru.mitchell Bidgee Harryboyles Dhx1 SJK Nickw25 Danadl MargaretRDonald Wittylama Nicolekearney Calistemon Eothan Evolution and evolvability REMerrick

Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Australia Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:31, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

ISCO-08 occupation code[edit]

   Under discussion
DescriptionInternational Standard Classification of Occupations code according to the International Labour Organization (ILO) classification structure as of 2008
Data typeString
Domainoccupation (Q12737077)
Allowed values[0-9]{4}
Example 1playwright (Q214917) → 2641 (2451 in ISCO-88)
Example 2stonemason (Q328325) → 7113 (7122 in ISCO-88)
Example 3lumberjack (Q1124183) → 6210 (6141 in ISCO-88)
Example 4goatherd (Q5575361) → 6121 (6121 in ISCO-88)
Format and edit filter validation[0-9]{4}
Sourcehttp://www.ilo.org/public/english/bureau/stat/isco/isco08/
Planned useFilter down occupation (P106)
Number of IDs in source7017
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Robot and gadget jobsIt should be possible to bot-match 1–2k of the entries, depending on the amount of manual work
See alsoISCO occupation code (P952)

Motivation[edit]

It is necessary to somehow filter occupation (P106) to find the real occupations, as a subset of human activity, and this property makes it possible. Occupations now contain a lot of human activity that has nothing to do with an occupation in the sense of work, and it seems impossible to clean it up.[4][5] For example this leads to serial killer (Q484188) being an “occupation”.[6] Check also the thread Wikidata:Project chat/Archive/2020/05#ISCO occupation code.

Note that ISCO occupation code (P952) should be changed to cover ISCO-88 when this property has been created, as almost all entries follow that standard. Not all though, so each entry must be checked. Jeblad (talk) 12:46, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Note also that for some activities the actual work might be slightly different from the thing described at Wikipedia, thus the work is only related to the item. Jeblad (talk) 13:20, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support The present situation with confusing "occupations" is one of several important argument against the use of Wikidata-connected infoboxes in wpno. Johann Sebastian Bach was according to Wikidata hired as a virtuoso (Q214970), which he was not. The word is a description of his skills, not his occupation. As I understand the suggestion is an attempt to remove such errors, I will support it. --Trygve W Nodeland (talk) 14:26, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong Symbol support vote.svg Support. E.g., the Norwegian white supremacist Anders Behring Breivik is listed with occupations such as "mass murderer", "terrorist" and "conspiracy theorist". These are hardly lines of work! This property needs to be reigned in. Asav (talk) 14:45, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Support this proposal. Ulflarsen (talk) 15:11, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support -- Will help to clean up a right mess. Geanixx (talk) 16:41, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Teolemon
Nomen ad hoc


Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Occupations and professions Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:36, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Olympedia identifier[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifier for an athlete at www.olympedia.org
RepresentsOlympedia athlete database (Q95606922)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman (Q5) with possibly very few exceptions (<5)
Allowed values[1-9]\d{0,6}
Example 1Laura Dahlmeier (Q4980869)127804
Example 2Steve Redgrave (Q52679)37440
Example 3Miriam Welte (Q65733)125466
Sourcehttps://www.olympedia.org/athletes
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned useimport ~130k values based on a mapping table sent by the Olympedia team (User:MisterSynergy)
Number of IDs in source164962 (2020-05-27)
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttps://www.olympedia.org/athletes/$1
See alsoSports-Reference.com Olympic athlete ID (P1447) in particular, but also International Olympic Committee athlete ID (P3171), databaseOlympics.com athlete ID (P3520), TheSports.org athlete ID (P4391), and Olympic Channel athlete ID (P5815)

Motivation[edit]

In the past, the database at www.sports-reference.com/olympics has been pretty much the gold standard of Olympic participation data in all Wikimedia projects. We have Sports-Reference.com Olympic athlete ID (P1447) for this site, but recently the data was removed from the Sports-Reference.com servers. This had been announced to happen eventually almost 4 years ago.

The original source for the data has always been www.olympedia.org, but that site was not publicly available until recently. The Olympedia team is currently working with a new hosting provider to set up a new public site to host their data, but the site is not expected to go public anytime soon. In the meantime, the Olympedia has been opened for the public [7]. It is not yet clear whether Olympedia will be a public database forever, but based on conversations with Olympedia team, it will likely be available for a considerable time.

In the past weeks, there have been email conversations between Wikimedians (particularly User:RonaldH from German Wikipedia, and me), the Olympedia team, and staffers of their new hosting provider. We have received a complete mapping table (Sports-Reference-URL <-> Olympedia ID) that we can directly import to Wikidata based on our well-maintained Sports-Reference.com Olympic athlete ID (P1447) identifiers—there is a 1:1 correspondence for both sites. I would offer to import the mapping table to Wikidata in case this property will be created.

Wikipedias would also be potentially be interested in this data, as they could relatively easily switch their Sports-Reference.com weblinks to Olympedia.org without having to look up all identifiers manually.

Interested users: @Avilena, Lugnuts, RonaldH, Edgars2007, Zyxw, Rashinseita (and possibly others); AmaryllisGardener
Edgars2007
Lymantria
Gabbg82
MisterSynergy
Tubezlob
B20180
Rahmanuddin
FocalPoint
Sannita
Habstinat
&beer&love
Sillyfolkboy
Migrant
Grottem
OhKayeSierra
Lugnuts


Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Olympics

MisterSynergy (talk) 09:12, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

I've also dropped a note at the Olympic Project on EN WP. Lugnuts (talk) 09:24, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

New York Times contributor ID[edit]

   Under discussion
DescriptionID of an author on the New York Times website
RepresentsThe New York Times (Q9684)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman (Q5)
Allowed values[a-z-]*
Example 1Alan Rappeport (Q61747015)alan-rappeport
Example 2Matthew Rosenberg (Q6791162)matthew-rosenberg
Example 3Elizabeth Bruenig (Q61677430)elizabeth-bruenig
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned useimport based on links in Wikipedia pages
Number of IDs in sourcehundreds at least, probably thousands
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://www.nytimes.com/by/$1
See alsoThe Washington Post contributor ID (P7943), The Atlantic author ID (P6791)

Motivation[edit]

Would allow better linking of journalists to their articles, which are often useful as sources. Vahurzpu (talk) 22:47, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Cinema Context ID[edit]

   Under discussion
DescriptionCinema Context is a database of cinema-related metadata in the Netherlands, mostly before the 1960s. Virtually every cinema that existed in the Netherlands before the 1960s is in this database, including the movies shown there, the people running those cinemas and the companies distributing film. The database and site are part of the department of Media Studies at University of Amsterdam (Q214341).
Representshuman (Q5), film (Q11424), movie theater (Q41253), company (Q783794)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman (Q5), film (Q11424), movie theater (Q41253), company (Q783794)
Allowed values[B|F|P|R]\d+
Example 1Casablanca (Q132689)F020802 (movie)
Example 2Theater Tuschinski (Q599272)B000030 (movie theatre)
Example 3A-Film (Q1807410)R001641 (company)
Example 4Abraham Icek Tuschinski (Q330084)P000107 (person)
Planned useMost of the movies have an IMDB reference, so i'll focus on getting those ids in first
Number of IDs in source>350.000
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttp://www.cinemacontext.nl/id/$1
See alsoIMDb ID (P345), Cinema Treasures ID (P4129), Swedish Film Database film ID (P2334)

Motivation[edit]

I've been working with the Cinema Context website for a couple of years now and it's a really interesting historical resource of cinema in the Netherlands. For a while, a complete SQL dump of the site is also available. The majority of all movies on this site have links to the IMDB, so it will be pretty easy to make a mapping of IMDB id's and Cinema Context id's. Husky (talk) 15:27, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support The Cinema Context database is a rich and detailed source. Cinema Context data can be queried at this sparql endpoint and the rdfdata wil be published soon. It would be really helpful to have good connections between Wikidata and Cinema Context. --Denengelse (talk) 15:56, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Looks very useful for Dutch films, and probably also for many other films as well. Jane023 (talk) 16:08, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Helsinki persistent building ID Ratu[edit]

   Under discussion
DescriptionBuildings ID of the City of Helsinki, replaced by nationwide VTJ-PRT
Representsbuilding (Q41176)
Data typeExternal identifier
DomainQ41176
Allowed values\d{1,7}
Example 1Helsinki Cathedral (Q738015) → 211
Example 2Q11871262 → 323
Example 3Swedish Theatre (Q926046) → 414
Sourcehttps://kartta.hel.fi/paikkatietohakemisto/pth/?id=16
Planned useSee below.
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
See alsoVTJ-PRT building ID (P3824), Protected Buildings Register in Finland Building ID (P5313)

Motivation[edit]

The ID is being replaced by the VTJ-PRT ID. This ID can be used to connect datasets of different age and different sources together. It is used for this year's WLM contest. Susanna Ånäs (Susannaanas) (talk) 16:56, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Juno Download album ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifier for an album on Juno Download site
RepresentsJuno Download (Q64577635)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainalbum (Q482994), single (Q134556)
Example 1Angels Ain't Listening (Q95689414)4597878-02
Example 2Spectre (Q68107521)2732412-02
Example 3Meteora (Q19858)3257128-02
Sourcehttps://www.junodownload.com
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned useputting value to albums available from the Juno Download site
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://www.junodownload.com/products/$1
See alsoJuno Download artist ID (P6920)

Motivation[edit]

Property for albums included in Juno Download. See also Deezer album ID (P2723) Google Play Music album ID (P4199) or Spotify album ID (P2205) Eurohunter (talk) 19:33, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

sobory.ru ID[edit]

   Under discussion
DescriptionIdentifier of a church/monastery/chapel at sobory.ru, which is a russian catalogue of orthodox architecture from all over the world.
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainmonastery (Q44613), Eastern Orthodox church (Q2031836), Orthodox chapel (Q1975485), bell tower (Q200334)
Allowed values00001-99999
Example 1St. Basil's Cathedral (Q129846) → 02934 (https://sobory.ru/article/?object=02934)
Example 2Spaso-Preobrazhensky Cathedral (Q1975595) → 00231 (https://sobory.ru/article/?object=00231)
Example 3Church of the Transfiguration, Kizhi (Q15042088) → 05875 (https://sobory.ru/article/?object=05875)
Number of IDs in source≈ 53000
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttps://sobory.ru/article/?objec=$1

Motivation[edit]

Sobory.ru is catalague of orthodox architecture from all over the world. There are photographs (they have about 400000 photos), short information (patron saints, locations, dates and so on) and articles about more then 50000 religiuos buildings. When it is about not well-known or hard to reach churches, it has much more information and photographs about many churches than Wikipedias and Commons. PS: it is my first proposal, so I could be wrong in smth Stolbovsky (talk) 01:07, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]