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Join Us for the International Mother Language Day 2025 Datathon

Hello Bodhisattwa 👋🏼

We are excited to invite you to participate in the International Mother Language Day 2025 Datathon, taking place from February 21 to February 28, 2025. This event is organized by WikiProject India in collaboration with Indian communities, aiming to celebrate linguistic diversity and contribute to Wikidata by enriching content related to Indian languages.

During the datathon, participants will focus on:

• Adding and improving labels, descriptions, and aliases in their mother tongue.
• Enhancing Wikidata entries for places in India and notable Indian personalities.
• Expanding language-related content on Wikidata, particularly items associated with languages of India.

This is a great opportunity for both new and experienced contributors to engage with Wikidata and make a meaningful impact in promoting their native languages in the digital space.

If you’re interested in joining, simply add your name to the participant list at the Participants section.

Let's come together to celebrate International Mother Language Day and strengthen multilingual representation on Wikidata. 🥳

For any questions or further details, feel free to reach out to me or post your query at the WikiProject India talk page.

Looking forward to your participation. 😊

Best regards,
-User:Gnoeee 04:56, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

Plays

Plays are dramatic works, meant to be performed. Please do not remove this information from dramatic works. They are a different kind of creative work than literary works, because there will be performances in databases. --EncycloPetey (talk) 14:20, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

Noted. Thanks. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 14:26, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

Invitation to Open Data Days 2025 Datathon

Hello Bodhisattwa 👋🏼

You're invited to join Open Data Days 2025 Datathon, a collaborative datathon dedicated to enriching open knowledge through Wikidata, OpenStreetMap, and other open data platforms. Join us to connect with fellow contributors, enhance open data resources, and improve structured knowledge for the benefit of all... 🚀

📅 Event Date - 1st Mar - 15th Mar 2025

🌍 Where: Online

🎯 Focus Areas: Participants will collaborate to expand and refine open datasets, aligning with this year’s theme, Open Data to Tackle the Polycrisis.

This is a opportunity for both new and experienced contributors to engage, connect and contribute to open knowledge movement. Let's come together to celebrate International Open Data Day and contribute. 🥳

For any questions or further details, feel free to reach out to me or post your query at the WikiProject India talk page.

If you’re interested in joining, add your name to the participant list at the Participants section and start contributing.

Looking forward to your participation. :)

Best regards,
- User:Gnoeee 10:00, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

historical novel

Please prefer "historical fiction" over "historical novel" for genre. The novel is the form; historical fiction is the genre. Using "historical novel" mixes together the two kinds of data. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:29, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

The same issue applies to multiple other mixed values you've been substituting. Please go back are reverse your edits. "Novel" is defined by form, and so is not part of the genre. Detective fiction is "detective fiction", whether it is a short story, a novel, or series. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:32, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey:, historical novel (Q192239) is described as a literary genre by form (Q108368282) and novel genre (Q108317211) and also is a sublcass of historical fiction (Q1196408), and thats why I had added it to the works. Its mixed, yes, but it's still a genre and I am not sure, why that specification is wrong to add. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 17:58, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

Because it mixes two concepts together. The whole reason we've been using "historical fiction" and "detective fiction" is to keep form and genre disentangled from each other. "Literary genre by form" indicates that it is a concept mixing together genre and form. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:15, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey:, ok, will revert back to the previous statements. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 18:22, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

Update entries for Kolkata Metro lines

Hi Bodhisattwa!

Do you mind doing me a favour, and update the entries for green, orange and yellow lines to show the now operational sections, and the purple line to hide the bit under construction from Mominpur to Esplanade?

Best, NLBRT (talk) 12:03, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

Publication date of Mahua

Why are you insisting on showing 1960 as publication date of this work? As per description of publication date (P577), it was the "date or point in time when a work was first published or released". The scan clearly identifies itself as a reprint, and the edition was of 1934. reprint (Q1962297) is re-publication, not publication. Therefore, please let me understand your reasoning for showing up a reprint as an edition. Hrishikes (talk) 04:01, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Q35760

You removed the fact that essay is a literary genre, without explanation, and a bot is now changing this to literary form. An essay is defined by the content and style of writing, not some particular structure. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:13, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey:, Understood. Thanks for the clarification. What would be the literary forms of essays, then? Also, I am confused about narration (Q3328821), which also is defined by the content rather than the structure, if I am not wrong. Will that be a literary form or genre and if it is a genre, what will be its form? -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 04:47, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

I would first need to know how it is different from narrative (Q1318295). Since narration (Q3328821) has only one Wikipedia article connected to it, I'm not sure what it is, or if it should be merged into something else. --EncycloPetey (talk) 05:21, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey:, sure, kindly let me know, if any decisions are made. By the way, what would be the literary forms for essays? -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 05:25, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

Their form would be short prose (Q1053765), though not fiction. That data item looks like it should not limit itself to fiction. --EncycloPetey (talk) 05:27, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey:, there can be long essays, spanning hundreds of pages or comprising many chapters. I guess, prose (Q676) can be a better option, but its still is too generic. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 05:34, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey:, please see these recent changes, which has reverted your defined characteristics of essay as a literary genre. Can this be worked out as these frequent changes are affecting our way of handling metadata on Bangla Wikisource. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 16:11, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

I've started a conversation with that editor. To be a literary form, there would have to be some consistent and objective characteristics, and no paper or discussion I've seen provides any such characteristics aside from the fact that essays tend to be written in prose and are nonfiction. But those characteristics in themselves aren't enough to make something an essay, since many other kinds of writing are also prose and nonfiction. What distinguishes an essay is that the content of the writing centers on a single topic. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:17, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

Regarding your new constraint at publisher (P123)

Shouldn't this be on place of publication (P291) and distributed by (P750) as well? Trade (talk) 00:43, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

@Trade:, I have added the constraint to place of publication (P291). Not sure about the distributed by (P750) though, as I have not used this property for bibliographic metadata. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 04:18, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

Could i get you to join the discussion at User talk:BrokenSegue? @Bodhisattwa:--Trade (talk) 04:21, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

@Trade:, as the discussion is going on around musical data, I think, I will be of very little use there. As I mainly focus on bibliographical metadata, please feel free to add me to any conversation, related to that. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 04:29, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

Ultimately what the question comes down to is the same: Do you think it's a good or bad idea to let bots remove or move certain constraint violations to lighten the heavy burden on Wikidata editors? Trade (talk) 04:32, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

@Trade:, I think, it is definitely a good idea for bots to do some heavy duty work to fix the constraint violations, if they follow the standard data models used by the community. I am sure, there are some bots which already do some of those tasks. For books, it has always been a pain for many of us to fix the constraints related to literary work (Q7725634) and version, edition or translation (Q3331189) and I understand the frustration which you have shared there in the talk page. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 04:39, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

If there is any constraint violations you want a bot to fix could you please list them on the talk page? (if you want something other than them deleted list so in parentheses)--Trade (talk) 05:01, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

@Trade:, sure, I will do that. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 05:03, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

Also it would be helpful if you moved identifiers from Wikidata property to identify books (Q29547399) to Wikidata property to identify book editions (Q136747173) when applicable. It will make it much easier for us to know which identifier are appropriate on what items--Trade (talk) 05:54, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

By the way are we allowed to use distribution format (P437) on items about book series/franchises?--Trade (talk) 05:54, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

main subject

Please contribute to Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Books#Should_we_have_work/edition_constraints rather than just revert changes Vicarage (talk) 08:05, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

poems

I assume this edit is part of your clean-up projects, but I could be wrong. This edit left the item without a value for instance of (P31). I've added that value for this item, but there may be additional items that need a value because of the way the bot is making the change. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:28, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey:, I did not add any constraints for literary works on instance of (P31) as far as I can remember. That was from this edit by Harmonia. But, there is a replacement value (P9729) literary work (Q7725634) added in the constraint, which the bot should have picked up and added as instance of (P31). I am not sure, why it didn't, maybe you can notify the bot operator. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 03:07, 5 December 2025 (UTC)