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Geographic location[edit]

historical region[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptiongeographic area which at some point in time had a cultural, ethnic, linguistic or political basis, regardless of present-day borders
Representshistorical region (Q1620908)
Data typeItem
Template parameter"země" in cs:šablona:Infobox - sídlo
Domainhuman settlement (Q486972)
Allowed valuesinstance of (P31) historical region (Q1620908)
Example 1Prague (Q1085)Bohemia (Q39193)
Example 2Brno (Q14960)Moravia (Q43266)
Example 3Wrocław (Q1799)Silesia (Q81720)
Example 4Nantes (Q12191)Brittany (Q327)
Planned useInfoboxes, queries
See alsolocation (P276), located in the administrative territorial entity (P131), located in present-day administrative territorial entity (P3842)

Motivation[edit]

Historical regions are sometimes a very strong part of the local identity. Some of them could be a past administrative entity, some of them not.

In my opinion in this case location (P276) is too general, located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) with start time (P580) and end time (P582) qualifiers is inaccurate, as some of these regions were not an administrative entity, but mainly end time (P582) qualifiers in inappropriate, as people still feel to be part of the historical region, even it has been dissolved or divided. Jklamo (talk) 12:08, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support this does sound helpful, we seem to get a lot of questions from users about this sort of thing. ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:29, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Thierry Caro (talk) 20:37, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support David (talk) 08:03, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Matěj Suchánek (talk) 14:06, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support JAn Dudík (talk) 20:15, 19 August 2018 (UTC) For settlements in the Czechia is it very useful property. Add yes, it should be limited to settlements, because this usually were in one region. JAn Dudík (talk) 12:40, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment This could be rephrased as "former region" or "prior region" and potentially cause less bias, but it seems that the cultural identity is important here with a nod about its history, regardless of causing some bias with the term "historical". There are those folks that will elevate this with the idea of "historically important" and we should be careful and mention in its description that the importance of a region is not what this property is about, but that "a region had a prior name and cultural identity that may still remain in part even today". Thadguidry (talk) 14:48, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
    • Historical region as a label was proposed because of historical region (Q1620908) label and its clear definition at en:Historical region as well as enwiki categorization. "former region" or "prior region" are good aliases, but "historical region" is clearly defined and widely used.--Jklamo (talk) 08:47, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Some things to consider:
    • Should use of this be limited to human settlements, as suggested above, or perhaps also be used for provinces and districts and such? (I imagine we want to restrict it somehow, to prevent it being used on every building and territorial entity and natural feature, but I'm not sure that human settlements is the right choice.)
    • Should this property be used even if the former region is already indicated via located in the administrative territorial entity (P131)?
    • What counts as a historical region? Should this include every single former country or geopolitical unit of any level that has covered that spot?
    • Should this be used for settlements that no longer exist, to point to historical regions that also no longer exist?
  • --Yair rand (talk) 22:56, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
    • (As these points remain unclear, I Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose creating this for the time being.) --Yair rand (talk) 21:11, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Statement on Wikidata generally aren't time-bound. It's better to use the existing ways of specifying regions and with appropriate qualifiers. Maybe we even need new ways to qualify a new type of regions, but I don't think going over time is the right way. ChristianKl❫ 16:19, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose loose term. When the entity was of the administrative kind, it should be used located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) with qualifiers. When not... I guess location (P276) does the job here. strakhov (talk) 12:53, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose I think located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) will work very well, with the appropiate qualifiers. --Giovanni Alfredo Garciliano Díaz diskutujo 16:14, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose per the above. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:40, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Cwf97 (talk) 17:08, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Useful for Incubator, we the Incubator users wanna it, please send petition emails to those oppose users above, to convert their unfair opposition of developing Incubator supports to fair supports. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 14:20, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Country or city ID on Hilton[edit]

   Under discussion
DescriptionID For Hilton hotels sites in Country or city on Hilton website
RepresentsHilton Hotels & Resorts (Q598884)
Data typeExternal identifier
Example 1Egypt (Q79)eg
Example 2Cairo (Q85)eg/cairo
Example 3United States of America (Q30)us
Example 4San Francisco (Q62)us/ca/san-francisco
Formatter URLhttp://www3.hilton.com/en/hotel-locations/$1​/index.html

التحفيز[edit]

Kopiersperre Jklamo ArthurPSmith S.K. Givegivetake fnielsen rjlabs ChristianKl Vladimir Alexiev User:Pintoch Parikan User:Cardinha00 User:zuphilip MB-one User:Simonmarch User:Jneubert Mathieudu68 User:Kippelboy User:Datawiki30

Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Companies Mcnabber091 (talk) 00:29, 18 June 2014 (UTC) Tobias1984 (talk) 10:23, 8 November 2015 (UTC) Note 1 PAC2 (talk) 09:29, 26 September 2016 (UTC) Rjlabs (talk) 20:30, 14 March 2017 (UTC) Datawiki30 (talk) 11:55, 2 September 2018 (UTC)


Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Economics

Important information about international hotels group David (talk) 11:11, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Symbol neutral vote.svg Neutral : Seems commercial. — eru [Talk] [french wiki] 17:48, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
  • BA candidate.svg Weak oppose Use case unclear Germartin1 (talk) 14:51, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
    • @Germartin1: Use (clearly) to provide information on Hilton Hotels in the countries and cities pages --David (talk) 08:22, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Thierry Caro (talk) 05:27, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
  • GA candidate.svg Weak support Worldm99 (talk) 08:48, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose I don't see how this is going to be beneficial to someone looking for data about Cairo. It's just a link to a private hotel directory; there's no other information of any value there. Hilton is just one hotel chain and there's nothing universal or unique about them. If we want to link from articles on individual hotels, that's what official website (P856) is for, but these links should not be on city/country items. Andrew Gray (talk) 19:57, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Hey David, how about using property website and then using a qualifier 'valid in place' Germartin1 (talk) 14:26, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Cwf97 (talk) 17:36, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose, seconding Andrew Gray's comment. Trivialist (talk) 14:18, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

taxa found at location[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionplant or animals taxon described as present in location. Requires reference.
Data typeItem
Domainitem for geographic location (<20 values) or item for biology of geographic location. Not countries or first level administrative divisions.
Allowed valuestaxon if statement includes a reference. References used should cover a limited number of taxa (e.g. Flamingos) or specific locations (a bog).
Example 1Crawford Bog (Q56693695) -> Sarcophagidae (Q978302) reference Q56695871 p. 9
Example 2Crawford Bog (Q56693695) -> Sarracenia leucophylla (Q1752921)
Example 3Crawford Bog (Q56693695) -> Sarracenia flava (Q1499289)
Example 4Crawford Bog (Q56693695) -> Sarracenia psittacina (Q1624202)
Example 5Crawford Bog (Q56693695) -> Drosera filiformis (Q366314)
Example 6Africa (Q15) -> lion (Q140)
Sourcedocument used as reference
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)

Motivation[edit]

Following discussion at Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Taxonomy#Location_survey. @Brya, Succu: thanks for your input. (Add your motivation for this property here.) --- Jura 12:11, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment. The extent of this new property should be discussed beforehand. Should species kept (P1990) keep species in protected areas or should its focus be reduced back to zoos only? Thierry Caro (talk) 17:34, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
    • Protected areas generally don't "keep" any species, all present are protected. I think this property should work there. The sample bog above is located in a protected area. --- Jura 18:20, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Agoda hotel ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifier for an hotel on the Agoda website
RepresentsAgoda (Q395182)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainlodging (Q5056668)
Allowed valuesString
Example 1
Example 2
  • Nimb Hotel (Q7037576)nimb-hotel/hotel/copenhagen-dk
  • Example 3
  • Rendezvous Hotel Singapore (Q7312822)rendezvous-hotel-singapore-by-far-east-hospitality/hotel/singapore-sg
  • Sourcehttps://www.agoda.com/
    External linksUse in sister projects: [de][en][es][fr][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
    Planned useTemplate:Tourism links (Q50592696)
    Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
    Formatter URLhttps://www.agoda.com/$1.html
    See alsoBooking.com hotel ID (P3607), Hotels.com hotel ID (P3898), Expedia hotel ID (P5651)

    Motivation[edit]

    This Wikidata property related to tourism (Q29110152) would improve our coverage of hospitality industry (Q1495452). DL3222 (talk) 19:14, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

    Discussion[edit]

    Office of Historic Preservation ID[edit]

       Under discussion
    Descriptionidentifier for a point of interest on the website of the Office of Historic Preservation of California
    Representsno label (Q57600280)
    Data typeExternal identifier
    Domaingeographic location (Q2221906)
    Allowed valuesString
    Example 1Canby's Cross (Q5031298)110
    Example 2Fairmont San Francisco (Q4272608)N2165
    Example 3no label (Q57601177)P561
    Sourcehttp://ohp.parks.ca.gov/ListedResources/?view=all
    External linksUse in sister projects: [de][en][es][fr][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
    Mix'n'match1894
    Number of IDs in source4158
    Formatter URLhttp://ohp.parks.ca.gov/ListedResources/Detail/$1
    Motivation

    This new Wikidata property for cultural heritage identification (Q18618628) would improve our coverage of the history of California (Q1818043). Thierry Caro (talk) 01:21, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

    Discussion

    Thierry Caro Roseohioresident

    Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject United States. Thierry Caro (talk) 01:21, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

    • Symbol support vote.svg Support David (talk) 06:54, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

    Neighborhood[edit]

    Conservation status[edit]

    State of conservation / state of use[edit]

       Not done
    DescriptionTo indicate state of conservation / state of use of a building, monument, etc. It is not related with its heritage protection (heritage designation (P1435)), but to its present state of conservation or use. Ex.: ruinous, demolished, reformed, correct, abandoned, in use, temporarily closed, etc.
    Representsconservation status (Q55553838)
    Data typeItem
    Template parameterestat_us in ca:template:infotaula edifici.
    status in en:template:Infobox_building.
    erhaltungszustand in de:Vorlage:Infobox Burg.
    stato attuale in it:Template:Infobox stazione della metropolitana.
    estado in es:Plantilla:Ficha de túnel
    etc.
    Domaingeographical object (Q618123), construction (Q811430), human-made geographic object (Q35145743) and its subclasses
    Allowed valuesThis property is multi-value. Some exemple, but not exclusives, are:
    operatively: in use (Q55654238), open to the public (Q55570821), closed to the public (Q55570340), temporarily closed (Q55653430), closed, ....
    conservation: correct, reformed, abandoned, in danger (Q55555088), ruins (Q109607), demolished, destroyed artwork (Q21745157), destroyed settlement (Q22674930), destroyed city (Q14616455), etc.
    Some combinations could seems contradictorial, but are possible; for instance: ruins (Q109607) + open to the public (Q55570821) in a archaeological site (Q839954)
    Item should be subclass of conservation status (Q55553838).
    Possible qualifiers: start time (P580), end time (P582), point in time (P585), applies to part (P518) (when refers to a specific part), but not only.
    Allowed unitsN/A
    Example 1Parthenon (Q10288) → partially destroyed or ruins (Q109607) + open to the public (Q55570821)
    Example 2London Eye (Q160659)in use (Q55654238)
    Example 3World Trade Center (Q11235) → value destroyed (P585=2001)
    Example 4Casa Vicens (Q746333) → open to the public (P580=2017)
    Format and edit filter validationN/A
    SourceAs a exemple, but not the only source. In any case, this property may hold an "unofficial" description of a changeable value. So, the sources may be anyone.
    Planned useincorporate in building infobox to get WD contents instead to be a manual parameter
    Number of IDs in sourceDon't know. Probably, they must be moved from present values in infoboxes
    See alsoDiscussion that promoted this proposal

    Motivació

    Incorporate as a WD property the most popular Infoboxes concepts that are now only available manual parameters. The goal is to be able to get all the common and usual parameters from WD. Amadalvarez (talk) 08:35, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

    Discussion

    • Symbol support vote.svg Support Seems like a sensible suggestion. Only thought that came to mind looking at the examples is that a building could have more than one of these - so the London Eye (Q160659) is both "in use" and "Open to the public", but I think that is OK. JerryL2017 (talk) 10:17, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
    • @JerryL2017: Yes, you're right. In fact, "in use" should be an exceptional use, because "no info" should means "normal status", "in use", etc. in order to avoid overload this information. Thanks, Amadalvarez (talk) 20:10, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

    Discussion (2)

    • Symbol support vote.svg Support Thanks @Ayack: to prepare the split to make easier the decission. Amadalvarez (talk) 11:41, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support Cwf97 (talk) 12:23, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

    state of conservation[edit]

    DescriptionTo indicate state of conservation of a building, monument, etc. It is not related with its heritage protection (heritage designation (P1435)), but to its present state of conservation. Ex.: ruinous, demolished, correct, etc.
    Representsconservation status (Q55553838)
    Data typeItem
    Template parameterestat_us in ca:template:infotaula edifici.
    status in en:template:Infobox_building.
    erhaltungszustand in de:Vorlage:Infobox Burg.
    etc.
    Domaingeographical object (Q618123), construction (Q811430), human-made geographic object (Q35145743) and its subclasses
    Allowed valuesThis property is multi-value. Some exemple, but not exclusives, are: correct, reformed, abandoned, in danger (Q55555088), ruins (Q109607), demolished, destroyed artwork (Q21745157), destroyed settlement (Q22674930), destroyed city (Q14616455), etc.
    Item should be subclass of conservation status (Q55553838).
    Possible qualifiers: start time (P580), end time (P582), point in time (P585), applies to part (P518) (when refers to a specific part), but not only.
    Allowed unitsN/A
    Example 1Parthenon (Q10288) → partially destroyed or ruins (Q109607)
    Example 2London Eye (Q160659) → preserved
    Example 3World Trade Center (Q11235) → destroyed (P585=2001)
    Example 4Casa Vicens (Q746333) → preserved (P580=2017)
    Format and edit filter validationN/A
    SourceAs a exemple, but not the only source. In any case, this property may hold an "unofficial" description of a changeable value. So, the sources may be anyone.
    Planned useincorporate in building infobox to get WD contents instead to be a manual parameter
    Number of IDs in sourceDon't know. Probably, they must be moved from present values in infoboxes
    See alsoDiscussion that promoted this proposal

    state of use[edit]

       Done. state of use (P5817) (Talk and documentation)
    DescriptionTo indicate state of use of a building, monument, etc. It is not related with its heritage protection (heritage designation (P1435)), but to its present state of use. Ex.: reformed, in use, temporarily closed, etc.
    Representsconservation status (Q55553838)
    Data typeItem
    Template parameterstato attuale in it:Template:Infobox stazione della metropolitana.
    estado in es:Plantilla:Ficha de túnel
    etc.
    Domaingeographical object (Q618123), construction (Q811430), human-made geographic object (Q35145743) and its subclasses
    Allowed valuesThis property is multi-value. Some exemple, but not exclusives, are: in use (Q55654238), open to the public (Q55570821), closed to the public (Q55570340), temporarily closed (Q55653430), closed, ....
    Possible qualifiers: start time (P580), end time (P582), point in time (P585), applies to part (P518) (when refers to a specific part), but not only.
    Allowed unitsN/A
    Example 1Parthenon (Q10288)open to the public (Q55570821)
    Example 2London Eye (Q160659)in use (Q55654238)
    Example 3World Trade Center (Q11235) → N/A (?)
    Example 4Casa Vicens (Q746333) → open to the public (P580=2017)
    Format and edit filter validationN/A
    SourceAs a exemple, but not the only source. In any case, this property may hold an "unofficial" description of a changeable value. So, the sources may be anyone.
    Planned useincorporate in building infobox to get WD contents instead to be a manual parameter
    Number of IDs in sourceDon't know. Probably, they must be moved from present values in infoboxes
    See alsoDiscussion that promoted this proposal

    @ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, FranSisPac, ChristianSW, Jklamo, Medol, Barcelona: @Thierry Caro, Amadalvarez, Germartin1, Giovanni Alfredo Garciliano Diaz, Voll, Strakhov: @PKM, JerryL2017, Pere prlpz, Pintoch, Pigsonthewing, Yeza: @Anvilaquarius, AndreasPraefcke, Ayack: ✓ Done: state of conservation (P5816), state of use (P5817). − Pintoch (talk) 07:50, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

    GLAMOS glacier ID[edit]

       Ready Create
    Descriptionidentifier for a Swiss glacier on the GLAMOS website
    RepresentsGLAMOS (Q55856670)
    Data typeExternal identifier
    Domainglacier (Q35666)
    Allowed values[a-z]+
    Example 1Aletsch Glacier (Q204658)aletsch
    Example 2Boveire Glacier (Q4950520)boveyre
    Example 3Tiefen Glacier (Q7800984)tiefen
    Sourcehttp://swiss-glaciers.glaciology.ethz.ch/glacierlist.html
    External linksUse in sister projects: [de][en][es][fr][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
    Planned useTemplate:Geographical links (Q28528875)
    Number of IDs in source122
    Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
    Formatter URLhttp://swiss-glaciers.glaciology.ethz.ch/glaciers/$1.htm
    CountrySwitzerland (Q39)
    See alsoWorld Glacier Inventory ID (P1404), Gridabase glacier ID (P3707)

    Motivation[edit]

    This new Wikidata property for authority control for places (Q19829908) would improve our coverage of the geography of Switzerland (Q215941). Thierry Caro (talk) 22:20, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

    Discussion[edit]

    coordinate location GCJ02[edit]

       Under discussion
    DescriptionCoordinate location in GCJ02 (Q29043602)
    Representsgeographic coordinate system (Q22664)GCJ02 (Q29043602)
    Data type⧼calculated property⧽ (not available yet)
    Domaingeographic coordinate system (Q22664)
    Allowed valuesDirectly computed from existing values of other property
    Allowed unitsdegree
    Example 1Tiananmen (Q83973) → 116.397499E,39.908722N
    Example 2Oriental Pearl Tower (Q223207) → 121.49945027E,31.24000146N
    Example 3Potala Palace (Q71229) → 91.11850479E,29.65507281N
    Example 4Shenzhen Railway Station (Q837327) → 114.1262E,22.5317N
    SourceGCJ02 (Q29043602)
    Number of IDs in sourceUnlimited
    Expected completenessApply automatically to all wikidata entry with coordinate within mainland China area
    Robot and gadget jobsYes
    See alsocoordinate location (P625), Wikidata:Property proposal/Coordinate reference system

    Motivation[edit]

    Make it easier for users to use Chinese online map C933103 (talk) 00:02, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

    Background: en:Restrictions on geographic data in China#GCJ-02. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:35, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
    Phab similar: phab:T162331 --Artoria2e5 (talk) 15:18, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

    Discussion[edit]

    • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose This can be calculated from existing coordinates values. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:32, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose per Andy. Mahir256 (talk) 21:12, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
    • Answer @Mahir256, Pigsonthewing: That is why I proposed using the calculated property data type. The data type is "calculated by Wikibase and added directly to items".C933103 (talk) 04:13, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
      • @C933103: As long as that data type is "[n]ot in [the] development plan", this proposal will remain on hold, irrespective of potential outcome, until you withdraw it or it dies at the hands of a property creator. (In contrast, back in May when people were proposing properties with lexeme datatype despite the lack of lexemes at the time, those proposals could remain and go forward since at least the lexeme datatype was being worked on and prepared for deployment within the lifetime of those proposals.) Mahir256 (talk) 11:59, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
    • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Even if I hope at some point we will have that datatype, I think the above calculation might be too complex for an initial implementation. I think I saw a feature request specifically for this, but I'm not sure where it's at. As suggested by one of the other participants, one could imagine a separate property like P625 that would allow input of such coordinates. These wouldn't be converted for now.
      --- Jura 07:28, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
      • @Jura: The problem with P625 is that people are dumping GCJ02 into it without knowing. A quick way to find such a bunch is with this OSM/Wikidata Link Tool, which does name matches and reports location differences. --Artoria2e5 (talk) 15:28, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
      • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment I think we could use a separate property for these. A coordinate type one, not a calculated one like this one. --- Jura 15:33, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Nepalicoi (talk) 12:30, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol neutral vote.svg Neutral If we just veto foreign because it's not WGS84, then the Grid system of UK should also not be introduced to Wikidata. Meanwhile, maybe there should have function to mark some coordinates as non-WGS84. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 22:56, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol neutral vote.svg Neutral There is not much point in storing GCJ02 even as a generated/calculated type. The more important thing is to guide users into calculating a correct WGS84 from it. If we can do that with a new property, say by generating a calculated P625, it might be worth it. --Artoria2e5 (talk) 15:17, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
      • @Artoria2e5: And how do you think about the UK Grid (i.e. OS grid reference (P613))? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 16:16, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
        • The UK Grid is a much less… fictitious system compared to GCJ-02. GCJ02 is defined for the sake of drifting electronic maps, while OSGB has a legit purpose, wide acception in older print sources, and a notation different from lat/lon that is hard to mistake for WGS84. I mean, I subjectively dislike GCJ02 (and BD09) and do not want a maliciously defined thing considered as part of some solid database. --Artoria2e5 (talk) 17:39, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Cwf97 (talk) 17:09, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

    Coordinates in WKT[edit]

       Under discussion
    Descriptioncoordinates of this object in Well-Known Text (Q4018860) format
    RepresentsWell-Known Text (Q4018860)
    Data typeString
    Domainareas/lines etc. (non-points)
    Example 1MISSING
    Example 2MISSING
    Example 3MISSING
    Planned useWill do some import for Latvia-specific places and global items (countries e.g.)
    See alsogeoshape (P3896)

    Motivation[edit]

    We currently can't set geometry of non-point objects. Although this may be the main job for OSM, information can be stored in Wikidata. And we can make prettier maps in SPARQL. P.S. Will add examples when will be at computer, which has software installed (tomorrow). Edgars2007 (talk) 10:40, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

    Discussion[edit]

    @Edgars2007: What's wrong with using GeoJSON on Commons? I believe that's what some of the geographic maps on SPARQL already use. Also I'm not sure any values for this property will fit within the 400-character limit for string/external-id values. Mahir256 (talk) 16:57, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

    @Mahir256: hmm, missed geoshape (P3896) somehow. What I don't like in that solution, is that it's split one by one. I can't have it in one place. So if I need to have data for all countries, i have to download 200 files, can't have simply one query to list all geometries. Agree on 400 character problem (is that really the limit?). There could be room for improvements. Reduced precision, which would be fine, because 10-14 places after decimal point is somewhere few mm precision. Also geometry simplification, but that would be bad :D Also we could encode them. --Edgars2007 (talk) 21:29, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

    Outer space[edit]

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