Hi Susanna, I have seen that you created some of the wikidata entries of de:Immaterielles Kulturerbe in Österreich. e.g. The salute shooters of Wirling (Q113129710). This list and the Intangible cultural heritage in Austria will be part of a cooperation with the national UNESCO-commission in Austria in the context of WikiDaheim, the annual Austrian photo contest. The contest will start on July 1st. I have linked the entries in the list to the corresponding wikidata-entries (find the wikidata logo in the 5th column). I also use the wikidata entry on commons to access the description of the Intangible cultural heritage in German and English (in a bit weird way, using property described at URL (P973). What I found:
- not all rows do have an wikidata entry. Intangible cultural heritage should be complete and up-to-date on wikidata.
- property described at URL (P973) might be unstable, maybe there is a more stable way to store this information. Maybe (we at WMAT asked the local UNESCO commission, answer sill outstanding) there are urls that do not need changes when the title of the ICH changes and allow the automatic translation for supported languages (e.g. via an internal id). See c:Category:Axamer_Wampelerreiten for the marker that shows the links to both descriptions (retrieved via WD-id). I can change the marker template, in case the Wikidata storage of these references is changed.
- The German description is weird, Gesellschaftliche Praktik in Oberösterreich, aufgenommen 2011 (meaning: social practice in Upper Austria, incribed in 2011) which makes the elephant (Unesco) invisible. Anyhow, I would propose to move the information when inscribed to some start time (P580) qualifier (of heritage designation (P1435)?). I would do the same for all descriptions in all languages. Furthermore, Gesellschaftliche Praktik / social practice is more a state information (defined by unesco) than a description.
- btw. there is a typo in social practice in Upper Austria, incribed in 2011, use Query to find all.
questions
- I feel inconvenient about using indigenous to (P2341) for the location info. Alternatively location (P276) or located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) could be used (additionally).
- I'm a bit surprised about using intangible cultural heritage status (P3259) to mark ICHs, I would have expected heritage designation (P1435) to be used for that purpose.
- I also surprised about using Inventory of Intangible Cultural Heritage in Austria (Q113085118) as value, as this is the container and not the single ICH.
- the distinction between Intangible Cultural Heritage (Q84036549) and intangible cultural heritage (Q59544) is unclear, I feel these two are the same and should be merged. Just stating not the same is not convincing.
- To sum up, I would expect to have heritage designation (P1435) = intangible cultural heritage (Q59544) as a marker on ICHs in wikidata
So there are two points. Can you help to complete the entries for Intangible cultural heritage in Austria in wikidata? And, can you think about my questions and help to create a more concise modelling in wikidata? (I'm well aware of the long lasting project and the valuable contributions by a lot of people, so I will not improve the modelling). Any help will be appreciated, would be fine if entries will be complete by 1st of July.
Feel free to move this thread to a more public page. best regards