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Person[edit]

Multi-channel network[edit]

   Under discussion
DescriptionMulti-channel network with which works YouTube channel
Representsmulti-channel network (Q14635346)
Data typeItem
Template parameterсеть in ru:Шаблон:Видеоблогер and network in en:Template:Infobox YouTube personality
Domainmainly human (Q5), YouTube channel (Q17558136)
Allowed valuesmainly multi-channel network (Q14635346), organization (Q43229), business (Q4830453)
Allowed unitsitem
Example 1Marzia Bisognin (Q18148459)Disney Digital Network (Q6739276)
Example 2Maryana Ro (Q50414326)Yoola (Q30673858)
Example 3Adam Montoya (Q16223298)Machinima.com (Q4043544)
Sourceru:Категория:Многоканальные сети
Planned useпланирую заменить в большинстве страниц текстовые обозначения мультиканальных сетей на данные из Викиданных (I plan to replace in most pages the textual designations of multichannel networks for data from Wikidata)
Robot and gadget jobsнет (none)
See alsoYouTube channel ID (P2397)

Motivation[edit]

Since YouTube is expanding. Так как расширяется рынок YouTube-блоггинга. Skepsiz (talk) 15:43, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

tribus[edit]

   Under discussion
DescriptionEach of the 35 constituencies into which the ancient Romans were divided for electoral reasons
RepresentsRoman tribe (Q938560)
Data typeItem
Domainhuman (Q5), city (Q515)
Example

Motivación[edit]

The official designation of each Roman in republican times consisted of the praenomen, the nomen, the filiation and the tribus. As the Roman state expanded, it granted the right of citizenship to various populations and towns that were ascribed to existing or new tribus. During the High Imperial period, the tribus system was maintained. For modern historians, knowing an individual's tribus provides clues to his or her origo. I think we should have a property for this concept.

I put it in person, although it is valid for persons and places.

Romulanus (talk) 10:10, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose. Use member of (P463). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:25, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
    • member of (P463) says «Do not use for membership in ethnic or social groups». A tribus is a social group. --Romulanus (talk) 23:24, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose I think we can use ethnic group (P172) -Theklan (talk) 11:37, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
    • This property is used to refer to peoples: Jews, Arabs, Russians... A tribus has nothing to do with it. It was another division of Roman citizenship that had nothing to do with ethnicity: one person from Spain, another from the Balkans and a third from Syria could belong to the same tribus and at the same time be in origin of different peoples: Hispanic roots, Dalmatian roots, Syrian roots. Moreover, a city could belong to one tribus and several of its inhabitants to different tribus. It depended on where their ancestors had obtained citizenship. I think there is currently no property that fits the Roman tribus. Nor is there a modern concept for it. --Romulanus (talk) 00:32, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

place of disappearance[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionlast place or location a missing person was seen or otherwise known to be alive
Data typeItem
Domainperson
Example 1Jamal Khashoggi (Q1262052)Istanbul (Q406)
Example 2Amelia Earhart (Q3355)Pacific Ocean (Q98)
Example 3Sean Flynn (Q327426)National Highway 1 (Q1320165)
Example 4Naomi Uemura (Q1322504)Denali (Q130018)
See alsodate of disappearance (P746); place of death (P20)

Motivation[edit]

Currently, the date of disappearance (P746) property exists, but there is no property describing the last known location a missing person was seen alive. This will ensure that a missing person will have paired parameters, similar to date of death (P570) and place of death (P20). HapHaxion (talk) 15:54, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support, if there is a date of disappearance (P746) it makes sense to create a "place of disappearance" or a "last place before the disappearance". — eru [Talk] [french wiki] 17:25, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment This a valid proposal, but would it be possible to use "location" or this proposed property as a qualifier for "date of disappearance"?. What happens when the people reappear? Can people go missing more than once? Germartin1 (talk) 07:39, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support David (talk) 08:52, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Identifier[edit]

The Swedish Deathbook[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionis a CD created by Swedish Genealogy society in the project "Name for the Dead" that contains today about 11 million dead Swedish people who have died after 1860. This property will just contain the unique identifier of a record. As this source is used a lot it is a good source to identify the uniqueness of a person Swedish death index (Q10686079)
RepresentsSwedish death index (Q10686079)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman (Q5)
Allowed values
Example
  • Olof Palme (Q53713) → 19270130-0499 Palme, Sven Olof Joachim
  • Planned useOn Swedish people in Wikidata
    Number of IDs in source+9000 (same amounts of Swedish people died after 1860 in Wikipedia)
    Expected completeness??

    Motivation

    In Sweden this database is used a lot and is a good secondary source to confirm birth and death dates. I can see usage

    • Quality assure what we have in Wikipedia
    • Add a good source ==> better trust what we state in Wikidata and in the articles
    • Find death dates for people who has no Swedish death dates when matching
    • Used in the future for matching external datasources that also use "The Swedish Deathbook"

    Task T200029 Salgo60 (talk) 11:24, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

    (moved from proposal template: No Formatter URL) - not online used for identify a person with another dataset using it ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:22, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

    Discussion

    • Symbol support vote.svg Support David (talk) 12:36, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support it seems a primary database in Sweden.--Alexmar983 (talk) 16:03, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
    • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment (currently) "allowed values" doesn't seem to allow the value of the sample.
      --- Jura 05:33, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
      • @Salgo60: this needs to be fixed before we create the property. The regular expression you provided is incompatible with the example. It would be good to have at least 3 examples and a consistent regular expression. − Pintoch (talk) 08:07, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
        • @Pintoch: the key is the weak part in this concept. For people born after 1900 I feel we have this "Personal number" we have in Sweden YYYYMMDD-\d4 but for older people its hopefully a "invented" number but I am not sure and therefore I say the ID should be a text string 19270130-0499 Palme, Sven Olof Joachim.... I had a chat with the person doing this database if this was an unique string and he said yes BUT could be a problem when they register twins who died before birth and had no name ==> sound like a non problem in Wikidata/Wikipedia- Salgo60 (talk) 17:45, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
          • I'd probably just use the number then and possibly qualify with named as (P1810).
            --- Jura 13:26, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
      • @ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Nomen ad hoc, Alexmar983: as you looked into this, could you fix it?
        --- Jura 09:16, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 14:21, 30 June 2018 (UTC).
    • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Any working example?--Jklamo (talk) 16:32, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
    Having a WD property it will be cleaner design and also available as a property on the person object - Salgo60 (talk) 14:09, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
    • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Will this be the same number as Personal identity number (Q5453848) as modern people die? Will it always use a 4 digit birth year? I never understood why they decided to use a two digit birth year in Q5453848. Has anyone seen a free version online or a downloadable version so I can test the numbers? --RAN (talk) 14:15, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

    Nobel Prize in Literature laureate ID[edit]

       On hold
    Descriptionidentifier for a Nobel Prize in Literature laureate on Nobelprize.org
    RepresentsNobel Prize in Literature (Q37922)
    Data typeExternal identifier
    Domainhuman (Q5)
    Allowed valuesString
    Example 1Kazuo Ishiguro (Q272855)2017/ishiguro
    Example 2Doris Lessing (Q40874)2007/lessing
    Example 3Pearl S. Buck (Q80900)1938/buck
    Sourcehttps://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/
    External linksUse in sister projects: [de][en][es][fr][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
    Planned useTemplate:Literature links (Q54933000)
    Number of IDs in source114
    Formatter URLhttps://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/$1-facts.html

    Motivation

    Together with Nomen ad hoc (talkcontribslogs), we believe Nobel prize ID (P3188) should be split into a handful of properties so that every one is managed more efficiently. The IDs will be shorter – and will thus look much more like actual IDs. And then we'll be able to have tighter constraints and eventually a better use. Take this new Wikidata property related to literature (Q29561722), for instance. We'll now be able to call it very easily through Template:Literature links (Q54933000) and this specific template only. Wikidata:Project chat has been consulted and our suggestion got no opposition. Thierry Caro (talk) 11:21, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

    @Thierry Caro: Please provide a link to the relevant 'Project chat' discussion(s). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:16, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

    Discussion

    Featured Biographies senator ID[edit]

       Under discussion
    Descriptionidentifier for an American senator in the Featured Biographies database
    RepresentsUnited States Senate Featured Biographies (Q55869099)
    Data typeExternal identifier
    Domainhuman (Q5)
    Allowed valuesString
    Example 1Blanche Bruce (Q881412)Bruce
    Example 2Nancy Landon Kassebaum (Q458281)Kassebaum
    Example 3Uriah Tracy (Q650446)Tracy
    Sourcehttps://www.senate.gov/history/featured_biographies.htm
    External linksUse in sister projects: [de][en][es][fr][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
    Planned useTemplate:Public life links (Q55718146)
    Number of IDs in source138
    Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
    Formatter URLhttps://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/generic/Featured_Bio_$1.htm
    CountryUnited States of America (Q30)
    See alsoUS Congress Bio ID (P1157)

    Motivation[edit]

    This new Wikidata property related to politics (Q22984475) would improve our coverage of the United States Senate (Q66096). Thierry Caro (talk) 16:55, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

    Discussion[edit]

    Thierry Caro Roseohioresident

    Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject United States. Thierry Caro (talk) 16:55, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

    ChristianKl Oravrattas Tagishsimon Jacksonj04 Owenpatel Markcridge Louisecrow Nomen ad hoc Tubezlob Siwhitehouse Mhl20 Alexsdutton Danadl Teester Zache a_ka_es Hasive Nat965 masti Papuass Jklamo Kellyjeanne9 ProtoplasmaKid Jmmuguerza


    Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject every politician. Thierry Caro (talk) 13:11, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

    • Symbol support vote.svg Support David (talk) 09:14, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose 138 is too few to justify a property. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:41, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
      • @Pigsonthewing: are there guidelines somewhere on what a reasonable number would be to deserve a property? I had a brief look but couldn't find anything relevant (I don't have a particularly good internet connection atm, though, so could easily be missing something.) It seems like it would be useful to connect these up in some way: would you be recommending described at URL (P973) instead, or is there something else more suitable? --Oravrattas (talk) 19:33, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
        • Nothing written down; but from past precedent the bar seems to be set at a few hundred for external iDs. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:47, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol neutral vote.svg Neutral really low usage possibility, but why not to have it if it is used Masti (talk) 13:21, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

    Boobpedia article[edit]

       Under discussion
    Descriptionarticle name on Boobpedia
    Data typeExternal identifier
    Domainpornographic actor (Q488111)
    Allowed values[\w-'().áéíóöúüćŞ]+
    Example 1Mia Khalifa (Q18735049) → Mia_Khalifa
    Example 2Alexandra Quinn (Q537422) → Alexandra_Quinn
    Example 3Jenna Brooks (Q15920991) → Jenna_Brooks
    Example 4Lulu Devine (Q11838202) → Lulu_Devine
    Example 5Claudia Ferrari (Q528277) → Claudia_Ferrari
    Sourcehttp://www.boobpedia.com/
    External linksUse in sister projects: [de][en][es][fr][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
    Number of IDs in source33000±4000
    Formatter URLhttp://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/$1
    See alsoAdult Film Database actor ID (P3351), IAFD female performer ID (P3869), IAFD male performer ID (P4505), Pornhub ID (P5246), YouPorn ID (P5267), RedTube ID (P5540)

    Motivation[edit]

    This new Wikidata property related to erotica or pornography (Q53671196) would enhance our coverage of pornographic actor (Q488111). Boobpedia (Q25457707) contains 33000±4000 articles about women with a lot of information. Robin van der Vliet (talk) (contribs) 22:50, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

    Discussion[edit]

    • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Thierry Caro (talk) 14:51, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
    • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment: I'm one of the administrators at Boobpedia, and would like to note that the site is a wiki of largely user-generated content. Because of that, I don't know that it's suitable for its own property (but then I also question whether Quora topic ID (P3417) and Wikia wiki ID (P4073) are appropriate). The Honorable (talk) 18:01, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support PMG (talk) 12:54, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Unreliable source IMHO. --Gerwoman (talk) 16:05, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support Cwf97 (talk) 22:56, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support Marberal (talk) 12:01, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
    • GA candidate.svg Weak support Nepalicoi (talk) 13:07, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support Daft fiction (talk) 10:48, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
    • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment I was just wondering if 944 edits in WD are enough to support the creation of a property. And 1,595 edits? --Gerwoman (talk) 19:04, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

    Espace prépas author ID[edit]

       Withdrawn
    Descriptionidentifier for a contributor of Espace prépas on its website
    RepresentsEspace prépas (Q57243801)
    Data typeExternal identifier
    Domainhuman (Q5)
    Example 1Corinne Girard (Q47541219)corinne-girard
    Example 2Christian Talin (Q40867919)christian-talin
    Example 3Mylène Péron (Q40866763)mylene-peron
    Sourcehttp://www.studyramagrandesecoles.com/liste_prof_js.php
    Formatter URLhttps://grandes-ecoles.studyrama.com/professeur/$1

    80.12.63.37 17:16, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

    • Symbol support vote.svg Support David (talk) 09:49, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose --Manu1400 (talk) 10:34, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support Cwf97 (talk) 15:10, 16 October 2018 (UTC)}}
    • BA candidate.svg Weak oppose only 67 people. Not clear what this is about as well Germartin1 (talk) 07:26, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

    Name[edit]

    Profession[edit]

    is program committee member for[edit]

       Under discussion
    Data typeItem
    Domainhuman (Q5)
    Allowed valuesevent (Q1656682)
    Example 1Miriam Redi (Q43372605)Wiki Workshop 2018 (Q47035167)
    Example 2Charles Tesson (Q2960297)2018 Cannes Film Festival (Q43119724)
    Example 3MISSING
    Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)

    Begrundelse

    Scientific meetings (conferences/workshops) has a group of researchers that determine which contributions (articles/abstracts/presentations/demos) that will be accepted to the meeting. This is usually called the program committee. For modeling scientific events a property catching this relationship is wanted.

    This is the inverse of the suggestion at Wikidata:Property proposal/program committee member.

    The suggestion here (as oppose to Wikidata:Property proposal/program committee member) may be better as some conferences may have over 1000 program committee members.

    Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 12:35, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

    I have changed the preposition from "of" to "for" for the name of the property. To me (as a second-language English speaker) that sounds better. I hope the change is regarded as an improvement and that it does not affect peoples opinion in a negative direction. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 17:32, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

    Discussion

    Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:21, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
    Thanks for the list! Most close come:
    For the proposed property there should at least be a subject item "program committee". I changed to value class from scientific event (Q52260246) to event (Q1656682) and added an example to Symbol support vote.svg Support the proposal. -- JakobVoss (talk) 10:46, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
    • Maybe I was overly ambitious in starting this but to go along with this proposal I tried to set up Wikidata:WikiProject Event Metadata, a project to review and suggest models for how to capture aspects of academic conferences and other events in Wikidata. I had trouble filling in some gaps but I will think about it and add more. If this property is developed then that could be a component of modeling conferences in Wikidata. Blue Rasberry (talk) 21:08, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
    • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Note the change of preposition mentioned under motivation. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 17:32, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol wait.svg Wait I see no justification of why the link is in the proposed direction. I would expect that there are people who are in their lifetime in the program committee of a hundred events. To me it would make more sense to model this as a property of the event than as proposed to model it as a property of the person. ChristianKl❫ 17:57, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose having both this and its inverse simultaneously. (Not opposed to having either of them individually.) --Yair rand (talk) 03:21, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose seems like this would just list countless events and duplicate data already available in the inverse.
      --- Jura 10:07, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

    Other[edit]

    billed height[edit]

       Under discussion
    DescriptionClaimed (stage), not real height (for real use P2048)
    Representsprofessional wrestler (Q13474373), martial artist (Q11124885), actor (Q33999) etc
    Data typeQuantity
    Template parameteren:Template:Infobox professional wrestler: height; it:Template:Infobox wrestler: Altezza dichiarata; ru:Template:Рестлер: Объявляемый рост
    Domainhuman (Q5)
    Allowed values0<272 cm
    Allowed unitsmillimetre (Q174789), centimetre (Q174728), metre (Q11573), inch (Q218593), foot (Q3710)
    Example 1Hulk Hogan (Q44176) → 204 cm
    Example 2The Undertaker (Q44304) → 6 ft 10 in
    Example 3Dwayne Johnson (Q10738) → 1.93 m
    Number of IDs in source4200
    Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
    See alsoheight (P2048)

    Motivation

    In wrestling and some other stage competitions, participants often use not only fictitious names, but also fictitious height, weight and place of residence. Using existing properties is incorrect, as they may differ significantly. evs 💬 22:50, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

    Discussion

    Why not just split the character into a separate item from the actor, and use the regular properties? --Yair rand (talk) 00:50, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
    They are not characters but real persons with some fictitious characteristics, just like pseudonym (P742). Separate them into different articles is incorrect and contrary with existing practice, articles and templates. —evs 💬 03:51, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
    I'm not suggesting having separate articles, I'm saying there should be separate Wikidata items. Given an entire fictional backstory and characteristics, I think that these are certainly as much characters as, say, Stephen Colbert (Q4827730). --Yair rand (talk) 03:55, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
    I do not know how in this case the Infoboxes will work: they should display in one article both real name of person and their real parameters, and those that are reported on TV shows, to make readers feel the difference. Linking the same article to different Wikidata items is impossible, as far as I know. —evs 💬 04:18, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
    Symbol support vote.svg Support --Haseo596 (talk) 03:30, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
    Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose I completely agree with Yair rand here, this should be regular properties on a fictitious character, just as we have for any other invented personality. As to the infobox issue, if there's a technical problem, it should be solved at that level, not by adding redundant properties here. ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:46, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
    1) They are not fictional characters. 2) There is no possibility to link more than one items to one article page, by design. evs 💬 18:45, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
    Infoboxes can use data from items other than the one linked to the article. --Yair rand (talk) 19:27, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
    Can you show some examples where that is fully implemented? Usage of #statements or #property does not assume such. evs 💬 15:32, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
    @Harmonia Amanda: you have some experience writing infoboxes right, this can be done? ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:04, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
    You totally can. Most infoboxes that I know have a "wikidata = " parameter where you enter the Qid you want to be shown. It's mostly used so you can have the complete infobox of the article you want when working on your sandbox, but there is absolutely no reason the same system couldn't be used to show several items content. --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 06:16, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
    And how can I get that QID? How the "fictional" page can be linked? evs 💬 16:03, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
    By the way, another solution would be to use the same properties on the wrestler page, add the fictional values and use the qualifiers applies to part (P518), sourcing circumstances (P1480)... The infoboxes should also be able to filter according to the qualifiers. --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 06:20, 20 July 2018 (UTC)--Harmonia Amanda (talk) 06:20, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
    In that cases infoboxes mostly will show both parameters because there is no any filters active now. And the real parameters does not require a qualifier. evs 💬 16:03, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol oppose vote oversat.svg Strong oppose if intended use is on real people. — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  18:21, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

    billed weight[edit]

       Under discussion
    DescriptionClaimed (stage), not real weight (for real use P2067)
    Representsprofessional wrestler (Q13474373), martial artist (Q11124885), actor (Q33999) etc
    Data typeQuantity
    Template parameteren:Template:Infobox professional wrestler: weight; it:Template:Infobox wrestler: Peso dichiarato; ru:Template:Рестлер: Объявляемый вес
    Domainhuman (Q5)
    Allowed values0<300 kg
    Allowed unitspound (Q100995), kilogram (Q11570), gram (Q41803)
    Example 1Hulk Hogan (Q44176) → 137 kg
    Example 2The Undertaker (Q44304) → 136 kg
    Example 3Dwayne Johnson (Q10738) → 260 lb
    Number of IDs in source4200
    Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
    See alsomass (P2067)

    Motivation

    In wrestling and some other stage competitions, participants often use not only fictitious names, but also fictitious height, weight and place of residence. Using existing properties is incorrect, as they may differ significantly. evs 💬 23:00, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

    Discussion

    Symbol support vote.svg Support --Haseo596 (talk) 03:31, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

    billed from[edit]

       Under discussion
    DescriptionClaimed (stage), not real residence (for real use P551)
    Representsprofessional wrestler (Q13474373), martial artist (Q11124885), actor (Q33999) etc
    Data typeItem
    Template parameteren:Template:Infobox professional wrestler: billed; it:Template:Infobox wrestler: Luogo residenza dichiarata; ru:Template:Рестлер: Объявляемое место проживания
    Domainhuman (Q5)
    Allowed valuessame as in residence (P551)
    Example 1Hulk Hogan (Q44176)Hollywood (Q34006), Venice (Q773853), Washington, D.C. (Q61)
    Example 2The Undertaker (Q44304)Death Valley (Q118388)
    Example 3Dwayne Johnson (Q10738)Miami (Q8652)
    Number of IDs in source4200
    Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
    See alsoresidence (P551)

    Motivation

    In wrestling and some other stage competitions, participants often use not only fictitious names, but also fictitious height, weight and place of residence. Using existing properties is incorrect, as they may differ significantly. evs 💬 23:03, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

    Discussion

    • Symbol support vote.svg Support --Haseo596 (talk) 03:31, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support Where a fighter is billed from may be different than their city of birth, hometown, or city of residence. For example in his most recent UFC fight, American born fighter Brock Lesnar (Q220556) was billed from Canada. William Graham (talk) 18:43, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose see discussion on Wikidata:Property proposal/Billed height. ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:58, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
      • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment @ArthurPSmith: I think that "billed from" is distinguishable from "billed height" and "billed weight" when used in the context of a real fighter in a competitive fight sport. And furthermore it is distinguishable from "residence" (or "hometown") in that same context. William Graham (talk) 19:45, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
    • BA candidate.svg Weak oppose Nepalicoi (talk) 13:09, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support Cwf97 (talk) 17:06, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

    scholarship by (per Google Translate)[edit]

       Under discussion
    DescriptionEntity that granted a study / research grant to a person (per Google Translate)
    Data typeString
    Domainpersonas
    ExampleJosé Ortega y Gasset (Q153020) ->
    Sourcees:Categoría:Pensionados de la JAE

    Motivation[edit]

    The granting of a scholarship to a person by an entity / official body

    Mi motivación es poder crear una base de datos con todos los pensionado de JAE (junta de ampliacion de estudios) deberia de poder marcar fecha de inicio/fin de la beca y centro/organismo/entidad/fundación que la concede y lugar en el que se cursa.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Quimper200 (talk • contribs) at 10:27, 22 November 2017‎ (UTC).

    Google translation: "My motivation is to create a database with all pensioners of JAE (board of extension of studies) should be able to mark start / end date of the grant and center / body / entity / foundation that grants it and placein which it is studied.". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:52, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

    Discussion[edit]

    • @Quimper200: you have not included your proposal in its parent category, which is why a large red text ("You have not transcluded your proposal on Wikidata:Property proposal/Person yet. Please do it.") appears at the top. This is necessary so that people can discover your proposal and comment on it. − Pintoch (talk) 16:05, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Appears to duplicate sponsor (P859). (Otherwise, the datatype should be "Item"). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:54, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support as "received grant or scholarship from". @Pigsonthewing: The proposal is more specific and more commonly used than sponsor (P859). sponsor (P859) should be restricted to stuff like construction projects, community programs, or services in exchange for advertising. Mr. Guye (talk) 18:45, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
      @Mr. Guye: Any reason you think « sponsor » should be restricted to those cases ? author  TomT0m / talk page 10:16, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
      @TomT0m: Because those are things that are actually referred to as being "sponsored" by entities. — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  16:14, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
      @Mr. Guye: Ok, I get it. Maybe there should be both subproperties of « financed by » to emphasise the common trait between the philanthropic or commercial money donation. Although you did not comment on my question below, this probably should be a qualifier on the formation or the grant itself, it’s better (if it’s unknown, we can use
      < person > scholarship search unknown value Help
      financed by search < JAE >
      author  TomT0m / talk page 17:29, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
      @TomT0m: I like the idea of introducing a new property called "financed by". That's exactly what we need. — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  18:01, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support Cwf97 (talk) 19:14, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
    Pictogram voting question.svg Question Should not this be a qualifier of the scholarship or study item ? author  TomT0m / talk page 10:16, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
    @TomT0m: I'm not necessarily opposed to allowing it as a qualifier.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  17:55, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
    @Mr. Guye: I think it should always be used as a qualifier and never as a main statement property, as the grant is always given to achieve something, and that the main thing is that something. If we don’t know exactly which project or study or degree is financed, we use unknown value Help. It’s then easier to build your list, the query will be something like ?person ?prop [qv:financed by <Qorganisation>] if it’s always used as a qualifier. Otherwise if it’s sometime a qualifier and sometime a main statement, it’s something more complicated like {?person ?prop [qv:financed by <Qorganisation>] } union { ?person wdq:financed by <Qorganisation> } . (the same in an infobox, different ways to say the same thing leads to more complicated lua code if you want to do this.) author  TomT0m / talk page 18:12, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

    Personal title[edit]

       Under discussion
    DescriptionPersonal title in the Table of Ranks, etc. Ex: Decree of Presidium of the Supreme Soviet
    RepresentsPersonal title (Q56810919)
    Data typeString
    Domainhuman (Q5)
    Example 1no label (Q17416315) Mikhail AlfierjevTechnical service (Specialties: Ship-mechanical, Shipbuilding, Technological, Mechanical) Engineer Director General of the River Fleet 3rd Rank
    Example 2Bankowski Vladimir (Q17747345)Administrative Service Mine Director 3rd Rank (ex: Ministry of Coal Industry (Soviet Union), etc.)
    Example 3no label (Q4252964) → Director General Track and Construction 3rd Rank of Ministry of Railways (Soviet Union)
    SourceTable of Ranks (Soviet Union)
    Planned useOn Russian people in Wikidata
    Number of IDs in source> 10000 famouse people

    Motivation[edit]

    Wikipedia has many articles about people who have personal titles (with shoulder boards or buttonhole). — Niklitov (talk) 21:22, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

    Discussion[edit]

    • Symbol support vote.svg Support Cwf97 (talk) 15:11, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose This should be a multilingual text and not a string, but an even better datatype would be an item, why are there pictures in the examples? I think there are already properties for that Germartin1 (talk) 07:30, 19 October 2018 (UTC)