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Person[edit]

Multi-channel network[edit]

   Under discussion
DescriptionMulti-channel network with which works YouTube channel
Representsmulti-channel network (Q14635346)
Data typeItem
Template parameterсеть in ru:Шаблон:Видеоблогер and network in en:Template:Infobox YouTube personality
Domainmainly human (Q5), YouTube channel (Q17558136)
Allowed valuesmainly multi-channel network (Q14635346), organization (Q43229), business (Q4830453)
Allowed unitsitem
Example 1Marzia Bisognin (Q18148459)Disney Digital Network (Q6739276)
Example 2Maryana Ro (Q50414326)Yoola (Q30673858)
Example 3Adam Montoya (Q16223298)Machinima.com (Q4043544)
Sourceru:Категория:Многоканальные сети
Planned useпланирую заменить в большинстве страниц текстовые обозначения мультиканальных сетей на данные из Викиданных (I plan to replace in most pages the textual designations of multichannel networks for data from Wikidata)
Robot and gadget jobsнет (none)
See alsoYouTube channel ID (P2397)

Motivation[edit]

Since YouTube is expanding. Так как расширяется рынок YouTube-блоггинга. Skepsiz (talk) 15:43, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

tribus[edit]

   Under discussion
DescriptionEach of the 35 constituencies into which the ancient Romans were divided for electoral reasons
RepresentsRoman tribe (Q938560)
Data typeItem
Domainhuman (Q5), city (Q515)
Example

Motivación[edit]

The official designation of each Roman in republican times consisted of the praenomen, the nomen, the filiation and the tribus. As the Roman state expanded, it granted the right of citizenship to various populations and towns that were ascribed to existing or new tribus. During the High Imperial period, the tribus system was maintained. For modern historians, knowing an individual's tribus provides clues to his or her origo. I think we should have a property for this concept.

I put it in person, although it is valid for persons and places.

Romulanus (talk) 10:10, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose. Use member of (P463). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:25, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
    • member of (P463) says «Do not use for membership in ethnic or social groups». A tribus is a social group. --Romulanus (talk) 23:24, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose I think we can use ethnic group (P172) -Theklan (talk) 11:37, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
    • This property is used to refer to peoples: Jews, Arabs, Russians... A tribus has nothing to do with it. It was another division of Roman citizenship that had nothing to do with ethnicity: one person from Spain, another from the Balkans and a third from Syria could belong to the same tribus and at the same time be in origin of different peoples: Hispanic roots, Dalmatian roots, Syrian roots. Moreover, a city could belong to one tribus and several of its inhabitants to different tribus. It depended on where their ancestors had obtained citizenship. I think there is currently no property that fits the Roman tribus. Nor is there a modern concept for it. --Romulanus (talk) 00:32, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
  • @Pigsonthewing: I'm not familiar with the topic but I think we can make an exception and use member of (P463), if that's not possible, then you have my Symbol support vote.svg Support Germartin1 (talk) 14:55, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Can family (P53) work? Or social classification (P3716)? --Yair rand (talk) 21:58, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Cwf97 (talk) 15:42, 3 December 2018 (EST)

place of disappearance[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionlast place or location a missing person was seen or otherwise known to be alive
Data typeItem
Domainperson
Example 1Jimmy Hoffa (Q317638)Bloomfield Township (Q885364)
Example 2Amelia Earhart (Q3355)Pacific Ocean (Q98)
Example 3Sean Flynn (Q327426)National Highway 1 (Q1320165)
Example 4Naomi Uemura (Q1322504)Denali (Q130018)
See alsodate of disappearance (P746); place of death (P20)

Motivation[edit]

Currently, the date of disappearance (P746) property exists, but there is no property describing the last known location a missing person was seen alive. This will ensure that a missing person will have paired parameters, similar to date of death (P570) and place of death (P20). HapHaxion (talk) 15:54, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support, if there is a date of disappearance (P746) it makes sense to create a "place of disappearance" or a "last place before the disappearance". — eru [Talk] [french wiki] 17:25, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment This a valid proposal, but would it be possible to use "location" or this proposed property as a qualifier for "date of disappearance"?. What happens when the people reappear? Can people go missing more than once? Germartin1 (talk) 07:39, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
People can go missing more than once. However, date of disappearance (P746) is currently an instance of Wikidata property for birth or death (Q18608756), meaning that it should probably be used only when the disappearance is ongoing, and it is not known if the person is dead or alive (likely assumed dead, since it is the only option satisfying this quality other than birth). If the person is found, the property can be removed since their status is now known (if alive, no other action is necessary; if dead, replace the property with place of death (P20)). HapHaxion (talk / contribs) 11:50, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
In that case wouldn't it make sense to use Property "has quality" or "significant event" with the value "missing" and then use qualifier start and end time. Germartin1 (talk) 14:46, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
I feel that has quality (P1552) would be appropriate, but only if the person is found. This would confirm either the person is still living, or would be placed with the start and end time qualifiers along with date of death (P570) (since the death was confirmed and not assumed as a virtue of the disappearance). This is just my thought process considering "date of disappearance" appears to be equivalent to "date of death" (they cannot both be present at the same time) in terms of them both being a Wikidata property for birth or death (Q18608756). I hope that makes sense. HapHaxion (talk / contribs) 17:31, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support David (talk) 08:52, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Use 'location' as a qualifier on 'date of disappearance' or 'signifiant event'. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:48, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

SVT Open archive[edit]

   Under discussion
DescriptionSvt the Swedish national public television broadcaster has an archive wit old programs that have subjects/people see example that would be an excellent candidate to link to
RepresentsSveriges Television (Q215363)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainmainly human (Q5), subjects/events
Allowed valueshuman (Q5)/ subjects
Example 1Olof Palme (Q53713) --> medverkande/Olof Palme
Example 2Neil Armstrong (Q1615) --> medverkande/Neil_Armstrong
Example 3Emmanuel Swedenborg (Q185832) --> ovrigt/Emanuel_Swedenborg
Example 4West German Embassy siege (Q531412) --> handelse/Ambassadockupationen i Stockholm
Example 5ABBA (Q18233) --> medverkande/ABBA
Example 6Nobel Prize (Q7191) --> ovrigt/Nobel
Planned usetry to populate it and create a template in Swedish Wikipedia
Number of IDs in source+1000
Expected completeness100%
Formatter URLhttps://www.oppetarkiv.se/etikett/$1

Motivation[edit]

To connect this archive with Wikipedia/Wikidata will make this archive easier to access and use. The archive also have old programmes example Nobel prize winner Gustaf Dalén from 1924 link of great historical value Salgo60 (talk) 15:47, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Identifier[edit]

The Swedish Deathbook[edit]

   Under discussion
Descriptionis a CD created by Swedish Genealogy society in the project "Name for the Dead" that contains today about 11 million dead Swedish people who have died after 1860. This property will just contain the unique identifier of a record. As this source is used a lot it is a good source to identify the uniqueness of a person Swedish death index (Q10686079)
RepresentsSwedish death index (Q10686079)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman (Q5)
Allowed values
Example
  • Olof Palme (Q53713) → 19270130-0499 Palme, Sven Olof Joachim
  • Planned useOn Swedish people in Wikidata
    Number of IDs in source+9000 (same amounts of Swedish people died after 1860 in Wikipedia)
    Expected completeness??

    Motivation

    In Sweden this database is used a lot and is a good secondary source to confirm birth and death dates. I can see usage

    • Quality assure what we have in Wikipedia
    • Add a good source ==> better trust what we state in Wikidata and in the articles
    • Find death dates for people who has no Swedish death dates when matching
    • Used in the future for matching external datasources that also use "The Swedish Deathbook"

    Task T200029 Salgo60 (talk) 11:24, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

    (moved from proposal template: No Formatter URL) - not online used for identify a person with another dataset using it ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:22, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

    Discussion

    • Symbol support vote.svg Support David (talk) 12:36, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support it seems a primary database in Sweden.--Alexmar983 (talk) 16:03, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
    • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment (currently) "allowed values" doesn't seem to allow the value of the sample.
      --- Jura 05:33, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
      • @Salgo60: this needs to be fixed before we create the property. The regular expression you provided is incompatible with the example. It would be good to have at least 3 examples and a consistent regular expression. − Pintoch (talk) 08:07, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
        • @Pintoch: the key is the weak part in this concept. For people born after 1900 I feel we have this "Personal number" we have in Sweden YYYYMMDD-\d4 but for older people its hopefully a "invented" number but I am not sure and therefore I say the ID should be a text string 19270130-0499 Palme, Sven Olof Joachim.... I had a chat with the person doing this database if this was an unique string and he said yes BUT could be a problem when they register twins who died before birth and had no name ==> sound like a non problem in Wikidata/Wikipedia- Salgo60 (talk) 17:45, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
          • I'd probably just use the number then and possibly qualify with named as (P1810).
            --- Jura 13:26, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
      • @ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Nomen ad hoc, Alexmar983: as you looked into this, could you fix it?
        --- Jura 09:16, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 14:21, 30 June 2018 (UTC).
    • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Any working example?--Jklamo (talk) 16:32, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
    Having a WD property it will be cleaner design and also available as a property on the person object - Salgo60 (talk) 14:09, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
    • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Will this be the same number as Personal identity number (Q5453848) as modern people die? Will it always use a 4 digit birth year? I never understood why they decided to use a two digit birth year in Q5453848. Has anyone seen a free version online or a downloadable version so I can test the numbers? --RAN (talk) 14:15, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
      • This datasource is since about 1860 so its before Personal identity number (Q5453848) BUT they have a number on most people that we plan to use. When I suggested this property the plan was that we should get access to the whole datasource and could check all Swedish Wikipedia people. This has changed as they are afraid of sharing the data as the dataset is sold on a CD and is a major income for the Swedish genealogy society - Salgo60 (talk) 15:31, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support Cwf97 (|talk) 18:49, 3 December 2018 (EST)

    Featured Biographies senator ID[edit]

       Under discussion
    Descriptionidentifier for an American senator in the Featured Biographies database
    RepresentsUnited States Senate Featured Biographies (Q55869099)
    Data typeExternal identifier
    Domainhuman (Q5)
    Allowed valuesString
    Example 1Blanche Bruce (Q881412)Bruce
    Example 2Nancy Landon Kassebaum (Q458281)Kassebaum
    Example 3Uriah Tracy (Q650446)Tracy
    Sourcehttps://www.senate.gov/history/featured_biographies.htm
    External linksUse in sister projects: [de][en][es][fr][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
    Planned useTemplate:Public life links (Q55718146)
    Number of IDs in source138
    Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
    Formatter URLhttps://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/generic/Featured_Bio_$1.htm
    CountryUnited States of America (Q30)
    See alsoUS Congress Bio ID (P1157)

    Motivation[edit]

    This new Wikidata property related to politics (Q22984475) would improve our coverage of the United States Senate (Q66096). Thierry Caro (talk) 16:55, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

    Discussion[edit]

    Thierry Caro Roseohioresident

    Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject United States. Thierry Caro (talk) 16:55, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

    ChristianKl Oravrattas Tagishsimon Jacksonj04 Owenpatel Markcridge Louisecrow Nomen ad hoc Tubezlob Siwhitehouse Mhl20 Alexsdutton Danadl Teester Zache a_ka_es Hasive Nat965 masti Papuass Jklamo Kellyjeanne9 ProtoplasmaKid Jmmuguerza Graemebp Pete Forsyth Waldir


    Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject every politician. Thierry Caro (talk) 13:11, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

    • Symbol support vote.svg Support David (talk) 09:14, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose 138 is too few to justify a property. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:41, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
      • @Pigsonthewing: are there guidelines somewhere on what a reasonable number would be to deserve a property? I had a brief look but couldn't find anything relevant (I don't have a particularly good internet connection atm, though, so could easily be missing something.) It seems like it would be useful to connect these up in some way: would you be recommending described at URL (P973) instead, or is there something else more suitable? --Oravrattas (talk) 19:33, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
        • Nothing written down; but from past precedent the bar seems to be set at a few hundred for external iDs. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:47, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol neutral vote.svg Neutral really low usage possibility, but why not to have it if it is used Masti (talk) 13:21, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support In the absence of a minimum requirement for number of IDs in the source, this seems useful to me. --Oravrattas (talk) 11:40, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

    Boobpedia article[edit]

       Under discussion
    Descriptionarticle name on Boobpedia
    Data typeExternal identifier
    Domainpornographic actor (Q488111)
    Allowed values[\w-'().áéíóöúüćŞ]+
    Example 1Mia Khalifa (Q18735049) → Mia_Khalifa
    Example 2Alexandra Quinn (Q537422) → Alexandra_Quinn
    Example 3Jenna Brooks (Q15920991) → Jenna_Brooks
    Example 4Lulu Devine (Q11838202) → Lulu_Devine
    Example 5Claudia Ferrari (Q528277) → Claudia_Ferrari
    Sourcehttp://www.boobpedia.com/
    External linksUse in sister projects: [de][en][es][fr][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
    Number of IDs in source33000±4000
    Formatter URLhttp://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/$1
    See alsoAdult Film Database actor ID (P3351), IAFD female performer ID (P3869), IAFD male performer ID (P4505), Pornhub ID (P5246), YouPorn ID (P5267), RedTube ID (P5540)

    Motivation[edit]

    This new Wikidata property related to erotica or pornography (Q53671196) would enhance our coverage of pornographic actor (Q488111). Boobpedia (Q25457707) contains 33000±4000 articles about women with a lot of information. Robin van der Vliet (talk) (contribs) 22:50, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

    Discussion[edit]

    • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Thierry Caro (talk) 14:51, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
    • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment: I'm one of the administrators at Boobpedia, and would like to note that the site is a wiki of largely user-generated content. Because of that, I don't know that it's suitable for its own property (but then I also question whether Quora topic ID (P3417) and Wikia wiki ID (P4073) are appropriate). The Honorable (talk) 18:01, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support PMG (talk) 12:54, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Unreliable source IMHO. --Gerwoman (talk) 16:05, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support Cwf97 (talk) 22:56, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support Marberal (talk) 12:01, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
    • GA candidate.svg Weak support Nepalicoi (talk) 13:07, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support Daft fiction (talk) 10:48, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
    • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment I was just wondering if 944 edits in WD are enough to support the creation of a property. And 1,595 edits? --Gerwoman (talk) 19:04, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support --Deansfa (talk) 02:16, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

    TrENSmissions person ID[edit]

    Descriptionidentifier for a person on 'TrENSmissions'
    RepresentsTrENSmissions (Q59573811)
    Data typeExternal identifier
    Domainhuman (Q5)
    Example 1Francis Wolff (Q693819)francis-wolff
    Example 2Marc Crépon (Q3287914)marc-crepon
    Example 3Valérie Donzelli (Q130092)valerie-donzelli
    Sourcehttp://trensmissions.org/personnes/
    Formatter URLhttp://trensmissions.org/personne/$1

    VIGNERON
    Mathieudu68
    Ayack
    Aga
    Ash Crow
    Tubezlob
    PAC2
    Thierry Caro
    Pymouss
    Pintoch
    Alphos
    Nomen ad hoc
    GAllegre
    Jean-Frédéric
    Manu1400
    Thibdx
    Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject France. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 13:00, 27 November 2018 (UTC).

    • Symbol support vote.svg Support David (talk) 07:35, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

    @ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Nomen ad hoc: ✓ Done: TrENSmissions person ID (P6225). − Pintoch (talk) 10:04, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

    L'Encyclopédie philosophique ID[edit]

    Descriptionidentifier on 'L'Encyclopédie philosophique'
    RepresentsL'Encyclopédie philosophique (Q59348193)
    Data typeExternal identifier
    Domainhuman (Q5)
    Example 1Immanuel Kant (Q9312)kant-a
    Example 2Edmund Husserl (Q58586)husserl-a
    Example 3zombie (Q9406)zombie-gp and zombies-a
    Sourcehttps://encyclo-philo.fr/
    Mix'n'match2044
    Number of IDs in source184
    Formatter URLhttps://encyclo-philo.fr/$1

    VIGNERON
    Mathieudu68
    Ayack
    Aga
    Ash Crow
    Tubezlob
    PAC2
    Thierry Caro
    Pymouss
    Pintoch
    Alphos
    Nomen ad hoc
    GAllegre
    Jean-Frédéric
    Manu1400
    Thibdx
    Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject France. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 09:24, 2 December 2018 (UTC).


    Golden herring John Carter -Zest Nomen ad hoc Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Philosophy. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 09:37, 2 December 2018 (UTC).

    Discussion[edit]

    @ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Nomen ad hoc, GAllegre, Gerwoman: ✓ Done: L'Encyclopédie philosophique ID (P6223). − Pintoch (talk) 00:33, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

    ARLLFB ID[edit]

    Descriptionidentifier for a member of the 'Académie royale de langue et de littérature françaises de Belgique' on its website
    RepresentsBelgium Royal Academy of French language and literature (Q2166029)
    Data typeExternal identifier
    Domainhuman (Q5)
    Example 1Maurice Maeterlinck (Q49747)maeterlinck
    Example 2Gérald Antoine (Q3123585)antoine
    Example 3Jean Rousset (Q116306)rousset
    Sourcehttps://www.arllfb.be/composition/
    Mix'n'match1300
    Number of IDs in source200
    Formatter URLhttps://www.arllfb.be/composition/membres/$1.html/

    Nomen ad hoc (talk) 15:17, 3 December 2018 (UTC).

    ARB person ID[edit]

       Done: ARB person ID (P6235) (Talk and documentation)
    Descriptionidentifier for a person (including members) on the website of the 'Académie royale de Belgique'
    RepresentsRoyal Academy of Science, Letters and Fine Arts of Belgium (Q337580)
    Data typeExternal identifier
    Domainhuman (Q5)
    Example 1André Allard (Q55773102)andre-allard
    Example 2Jos Albert (Q16010220)joseph-pierre-dit-jos-albert
    Example 3Guillaume Arendt (Q55911420)iguillaumei-amedee-auguste-arendt
    Sourcehttp://www.academieroyale.be/fr/who-who/
    Formatter URLhttp://www.academieroyale.be/fr/who-who-detail/relations/$1

    Nomen ad hoc (talk) 15:28, 3 December 2018 (UTC).

    @ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Nomen ad hoc, Cwf97: ✓ Done: ARB person ID (P6235). − Pintoch (talk) 06:56, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

    Biographie nationale de Belgique ID[edit]

    Descriptionidentifier for a person on the Biographie nationale de Belgique
    RepresentsBiographie Nationale de Belgique (Q2728291)
    Data typeExternal identifier
    Domainhuman (Q5)
    Example 1Guillaume Arendt (Q55911420)guillaume-arendt
    Example 2Jacques Bonfrère (Q15486917)jacques-bonfrere
    Example 3Armand Abel (Q1708455)armand-abel
    Sourcehttp://www.academieroyale.be/fr/la-biographie-nationale-personnalites/
    Formatter URLhttp://www.academieroyale.be/fr/la-biographie-nationale-personnalites-detail/personnalites/$1/Vrai/

    Nomen ad hoc (talk) 17:52, 3 December 2018 (UTC).

    Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment : It seems to be the same data as for "ARB person ID", see http://www.academieroyale.be/fr/la-biographie-nationale-personnalites-detail/personnalites/guillaume-arendt/Vrai/ and http://www.academieroyale.be/fr/who-who-detail/relations/iguillaumei-amedee-auguste-arendt/eru [Talk] [french wiki] 18:16, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

    @ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Nomen ad hoc, GAllegre, Gerwoman: ✓ Done: Biographie nationale de Belgique ID (P6234). − Pintoch (talk) 06:56, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

    Danske Taler speaker ID[edit]

    DescriptionIdentifier for speaker on the Danske Taler website
    RepresentsDanske Taler (Q59392080)
    Data typeExternal identifier
    Domainhuman (Q5)
    Allowed values[a-z]+(-[a-z]+)+
    Example 1Simon Emil Ammitzbøll (Q952472)ammitzboell-simon-emil
    Example 2Ida Auken (Q441594)auken-ida
    Example 3Nikolaj Frederik Severin Grundtvig (Q331893)grundtvig-nicolai-frederik-severin
    Sourcehttps://dansketaler.dk/
    External linksUse in sister projects: [de][en][es][fr][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
    Number of IDs in sourcehundreds(?)
    Formatter URLhttps://dansketaler.dk/taler/$1

    Begrundelse[edit]

    Danske Taler is an online resource at https://dansketaler.dk/ collecting and displaying Danish speeches. It is non-commercial and unpaywalled. Board members of the organization behind the site include a parlamentarian and notable Danish academics. Apparently the site has been associated with a research project [1]. In December 2018, it became more widely known as it received funds directly via the National Danish Budget [2]. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 19:50, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

    Discussion[edit]

    @ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Nomen ad hoc, Fnielsen: ✓ Done: Danske Taler speaker ID (P6232). − Pintoch (talk) 06:55, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

    BDEL ID[edit]

       Done: BDEL ID (P6231) (Talk and documentation)
    Descriptionidentifier for a person on the 'Base de données des élites suisses'
    Data typeExternal identifier
    Domainhuman (Q5)
    Example 1Fabio Abate (Q118347)54885
    Example 2Caspar Baader (Q116419)55004
    Example 3Claude Calame (Q2977128)79289
    Sourcehttps://www2.unil.ch/elitessuisses/index.php?page=indexPersonnes
    Mix'n'match2052
    Formatter URLhttps://www2.unil.ch/elitessuisses/index.php?page=detailPerso&idIdentite=$1

    Nomen ad hoc (talk) 12:59, 4 December 2018 (UTC).

    @ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Nomen ad hoc, GAllegre, Gerwoman: ✓ Done: BDEL ID (P6231). − Pintoch (talk) 06:54, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

    Beachsoccer.ru person ID[edit]

       Under discussion
    Descriptionidentifier for a person at the St. Petersburg Beach Soccer Federation site
    Representsno label (Q59584789)
    Data typeExternal identifier
    Domainhuman (Q5)
    Example 1Artur Paporotnyi (Q4344717)341
    Example 2Q211044093439
    Example 3André Álvaro do Nascimento (Q8199175)2073
    Sourcehttp://www.beachsoccer.ru/players/
    External linksUse in sister projects: [de][en][es][fr][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
    Planned usefor usage in stated in (P248) and for Template:Authority control (Q3907614)
    Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
    Formatter URLhttp://www.beachsoccer.ru/players/player$1/
    Robot and gadget jobsMaybe check captures in Internet Archive for just in case?

    Motivation[edit]

    Valuable statistical data, some information about sport titles in beach soccer (Q210778). Сидик из ПТУ (talk) 15:40, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

    • Symbol support vote.svg Support David (talk) 08:28, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

    BSRussia player ID[edit]

       Under discussion
    Descriptionidentifier for a person at the Beach Soccer Russia site
    Representsno label (Q59585298)
    Data typeExternal identifier
    Domainhuman (Q5)
    Example 1Artur Paporotnyi (Q4344717)120
    Example 2Q21104409123
    Example 3André Álvaro do Nascimento (Q8199175)687
    Sourcehttp://bsrussia.com/profiles/persons
    External linksUse in sister projects: [de][en][es][fr][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
    Planned usefor usage in stated in (P248) and for Template:Authority control (Q3907614)
    Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
    Formatter URLhttp://bsrussia.com/profiles/persons/$1
    Robot and gadget jobsMaybe check captures in Internet Archive for just in case?

    Motivation[edit]

    Valuable statistical data, some information about sport titles in beach soccer (Q210778). Сидик из ПТУ (talk) 15:51, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

    • Symbol support vote.svg Support David (talk) 08:28, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

    SinemaTürk person ID[edit]

       Under discussion
    DescriptionID on the SinemaTürk (Q6576873) database for the artists
    Data typeExternal identifier
    Template parameterid in tr:Şablon:SinemaTürk'te kişi
    Domainhuman (Q5)
    Allowed values> 1000
    Example 1Zuhal Olcay (Q228567)2475
    Example 2Zeki Müren (Q187272)2454
    Example 3Türkan Şoray (Q447589)2336
    Example 4Christina Aguilera (Q41594)15000
    Sourcehttp://www.sinematurk.com
    External linksUse in sister projects: [de][en][es][fr][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
    Number of IDs in sourcecurrently ~250000
    Formatter URLhttp://www.sinematurk.com/kisi/$1

    Motivation[edit]

    The database covers lots of Turkish movies and the people involved in them. The SinemaTürk person ID of ~1000 items can be automatically extracted from the Template:SinemaTürk person (Q25852830) on Turkish Wikipedia. Meisam (talk) 16:36, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

    Discussion[edit]

    • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 22:05, 9 December 2018 (UTC).
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support. -- Hakan·IST 05:41, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support David (talk) 08:30, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

    Name[edit]

    exonym[edit]

       Under discussion
    Descriptionname given to an entity in a language that is not the official language of the place or country of this entity (useful if the entity changed its name at some point and using the label could cause an anachronism)
    Representsexonym (Q81639)
    Data typemonolingual text or lexeme-invalid datatype (not in Module:i18n/datatype)
    Domainplaces, organizations
    Example 1Examples can be found for example here : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_renaming#Exonyms_and_endonyms
    Example 2MISSING
    Example 3MISSING
    Planned useavoid anachronism in infoboxes, per community demands
    See alsoofficial name (P1448) View with SQID

    Motivation[edit]

    As stated in the description, some entity change their names. We handle this with official name (P1448) View with SQID in the native language of the entity, but we don’t have an equivalent for names in different countries. author  TomT0m / talk page 14:40, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

    see also
    a discussion in Project chat Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2018/11#Questions_about_names_:_«_unofficial_»_names_given_by_foreigners_and_the_future_of_names_in_the_lexeme_era ( pinging participants @Jmabel, AnonMoos: ) author  TomT0m / talk page 09:15, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

    Discussion[edit]

    • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Would you consider having this as a Lexeme-valued property, rather than monolingual text? ArthurPSmith (talk) 21:21, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
    • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment I agree it should be lexeme related property. KaMan (talk) 05:11, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
    • Answer @KaMan, ArthurPSmith: Actually I would have sweared I had putted « monolingual text or lexeme » as datatype in the proposal but it seems I did not /o\ Done now

    (also Ash Crow
    Dereckson
    Harmonia Amanda
    Hsarrazin
    Jura
    Чаховіч Уладзіслаў
    Sascha
    Joxemai
    Place Clichy
    Branthecan
    Azertus
    ToJack
    Jon Harald Søby
    PKM
    Pmt
    Sight Contamination
    MaksOttoVonStirlitz
    BeatrixBelibaste
    ajayi adeniyi
    Moebeus
    Dcflyer
    Looniverse
    Aya Reyad
    Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Names author  TomT0m / talk page 09:07, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

    • Symbol support vote.svg Support OK, support as lexeme-valued property. Even though there are a lot of examples on the link you give, it would be nice to see some examples laid out explicitly the way you would like them done (also maybe one or two not in English). ArthurPSmith (talk) 15:12, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
    • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment name (P2561) could generally be used. It avoids debating if the name is an exonym or not. --- Jura 12:50, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
      @Jura1: I’m unconfortable with this solution in this case, there is at least a need to discriminate between several kind of names and the generic property is not enough. A solution to define an exonym could anyway to create a mandatory qualifier « name given by », after all it’s a ternary relationship as an exonym is associated to an entity that gives the name, always. But it could also fit on the lexeme if we use the lexeme datatype which is the consensus at this point - another difference with this property. author  TomT0m / talk page 12:59, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
      What about name (P2561) with qualifier issued by (P2378)? --Pasleim (talk) 18:02, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

    Profession[edit]

    Other[edit]

    billed from[edit]

       Under discussion
    DescriptionClaimed (stage), not real residence (for real use P551)
    Representsprofessional wrestler (Q13474373), martial artist (Q11124885), actor (Q33999) etc
    Data typeItem
    Template parameteren:Template:Infobox professional wrestler: billed; it:Template:Infobox wrestler: Luogo residenza dichiarata; ru:Template:Рестлер: Объявляемое место проживания
    Domainhuman (Q5)
    Allowed valuessame as in residence (P551)
    Example 1Hulk Hogan (Q44176)Hollywood (Q34006), Venice (Q773853), Washington, D.C. (Q61)
    Example 2The Undertaker (Q44304)Death Valley (Q118388)
    Example 3Dwayne Johnson (Q10738)Miami (Q8652)
    Number of IDs in source4200
    Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
    See alsoresidence (P551)

    Motivation

    In wrestling and some other stage competitions, participants often use not only fictitious names, but also fictitious height, weight and place of residence. Using existing properties is incorrect, as they may differ significantly. evs 💬 23:03, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

    Discussion

    • Symbol support vote.svg Support --Haseo596 (talk) 03:31, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support Where a fighter is billed from may be different than their city of birth, hometown, or city of residence. For example in his most recent UFC fight, American born fighter Brock Lesnar (Q220556) was billed from Canada. William Graham (talk) 18:43, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose see discussion on Wikidata:Property proposal/Billed height. ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:58, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
      • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment @ArthurPSmith: I think that "billed from" is distinguishable from "billed height" and "billed weight" when used in the context of a real fighter in a competitive fight sport. And furthermore it is distinguishable from "residence" (or "hometown") in that same context. William Graham (talk) 19:45, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
    • BA candidate.svg Weak oppose Nepalicoi (talk) 13:09, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support Cwf97 (talk) 17:06, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose. Add the data to the item for the character, not the performer. --Yair rand (talk) 17:36, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose, as with the other two properties. Jc86035 (talk) 11:28, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

    scholarship by (per Google Translate)[edit]

       Under discussion
    DescriptionEntity that granted a study / research grant to a person (per Google Translate)
    Data typeString
    Domainpersonas
    ExampleJosé Ortega y Gasset (Q153020) ->
    Sourcees:Categoría:Pensionados de la JAE

    Motivation[edit]

    The granting of a scholarship to a person by an entity / official body

    Mi motivación es poder crear una base de datos con todos los pensionado de JAE (junta de ampliacion de estudios) deberia de poder marcar fecha de inicio/fin de la beca y centro/organismo/entidad/fundación que la concede y lugar en el que se cursa.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Quimper200 (talk • contribs) at 10:27, 22 November 2017‎ (UTC).

    Google translation: "My motivation is to create a database with all pensioners of JAE (board of extension of studies) should be able to mark start / end date of the grant and center / body / entity / foundation that grants it and placein which it is studied.". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:52, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

    Discussion[edit]

    • @Quimper200: you have not included your proposal in its parent category, which is why a large red text ("You have not transcluded your proposal on Wikidata:Property proposal/Person yet. Please do it.") appears at the top. This is necessary so that people can discover your proposal and comment on it. − Pintoch (talk) 16:05, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Appears to duplicate sponsor (P859). (Otherwise, the datatype should be "Item"). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:54, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support as "received grant or scholarship from". @Pigsonthewing: The proposal is more specific and more commonly used than sponsor (P859). sponsor (P859) should be restricted to stuff like construction projects, community programs, or services in exchange for advertising. Mr. Guye (talk) 18:45, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
      @Mr. Guye: Any reason you think « sponsor » should be restricted to those cases ? author  TomT0m / talk page 10:16, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
      @TomT0m: Because those are things that are actually referred to as being "sponsored" by entities. — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  16:14, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
      @Mr. Guye: Ok, I get it. Maybe there should be both subproperties of « financed by » to emphasise the common trait between the philanthropic or commercial money donation. Although you did not comment on my question below, this probably should be a qualifier on the formation or the grant itself, it’s better (if it’s unknown, we can use
      < person > scholarship search unknown value Help
      financed by search < JAE >
      author  TomT0m / talk page 17:29, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
      @TomT0m: I like the idea of introducing a new property called "financed by". That's exactly what we need. — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  18:01, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support Cwf97 (talk) 19:14, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
    Pictogram voting question.svg Question Should not this be a qualifier of the scholarship or study item ? author  TomT0m / talk page 10:16, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
    @TomT0m: I'm not necessarily opposed to allowing it as a qualifier.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  17:55, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
    @Mr. Guye: I think it should always be used as a qualifier and never as a main statement property, as the grant is always given to achieve something, and that the main thing is that something. If we don’t know exactly which project or study or degree is financed, we use unknown value Help. It’s then easier to build your list, the query will be something like ?person ?prop [qv:financed by <Qorganisation>] if it’s always used as a qualifier. Otherwise if it’s sometime a qualifier and sometime a main statement, it’s something more complicated like {?person ?prop [qv:financed by <Qorganisation>] } union { ?person wdq:financed by <Qorganisation> } . (the same in an infobox, different ways to say the same thing leads to more complicated lua code if you want to do this.) author  TomT0m / talk page 18:12, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

    catchphrase[edit]

       Ready Create
    Descriptioncommonly used phrase by which someone or something may be recognized
    Representscatchphrase (Q2708515)
    Data typeMonolingual text
    Example 1Steve Urkel (Q2777701) → "Did I do that?"
    Example 2Homer Simpson (Q7810) → "D'oh"
    Example 3Emeril Lagasse (Q339838) → "Bam!"
    Example 4Donald Trump (Q22686) → "You're fired!"
    Example 5Deadpool (Q1631090) → "Maximum effort!"

    Motivation[edit]

    I am somewhat surprised to find that this is not something we can already add to items for individuals and characters. The closest I could find is "motto", but that is not the same concept. Catchphrases are distinctive in that they are generally associated closely with a single person (real or fictional), and they are something that is usually repeated often, not just a famous phrase used once. Some people are so inextricably linked to their catchphrases that it is one of the most important pieces of data about them—I think that is the case for the examples above. This property could be applied to many types of people, such as fictional characters, television personalities, sports broadcasters, etc. You can often find these covered in news media, so it's not merely subjective (examples: [3][4]). Wikipedia has a list article for catchphrases, too. Dominic (talk) 19:35, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

    Discussion[edit]

    • Symbol support vote.svg Support, should be link to a language. — eru [Talk] [french wiki] 20:10, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support David (talk) 07:22, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
    • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment I modified the datatype to "monolingual string" as this is clearly a piece of text in a language, not a language-independent string. ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:11, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support Cwf97 (|talk) 15:45, 3 December 2018 (EST)
    • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:28, 5 December 2018 (UTC)