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Creative work[edit]

See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Infoboxes/works
Software products and brands, see: Wikidata:WikiProject Infoboxes/terms
Books, see: Wikidata:WikiProject Books

symbolizes[edit]

   Under discussion
Description symbolism of an artistic element
Represents symbol (Q80071)
Data type Item
Domain work of art (Q838948)
Example
Motivation

To be used primarily as a qualifier on depicts (P180) for the symbolic meaning of a particular depicted element. Pharos (talk) 20:48, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Discussion
  • Pictogram voting question.svg Question Is the symbolism of a given item objective or subjective? i.e. does everyone agree that e.g. fire striker (Q1409712) symbolises Order of the Golden Fleece (Q465774) in Armor of Emperor Ferdinand I (Q28790437) or is it (sometimes) a matter of debate? If it is subjective or not universally agreed we need some qualifier to note who states X symbolises Y. Thryduulf (talk) 22:19, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
    • If we have a reliable source that says "X symbolizes Y", we should simply source the statement. - PKM (talk) 01:23, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support I'd like to be able to use this property. - PKM (talk) 01:23, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
  1. What if we just use depicts (P180) as qualifier in depicts (P180)? Items should indicate if it is abstract or physical.
  2. "depicts" levels can be very deep in heraldry (4 levels and more) BA candidate.svg Weak oppose: separate items would resolve all problems d1g (talk) 22:09, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Seems to be useful. Danrok (talk) 16:59, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
  • @D1gggg: can you elaborate on your solution with separate items? It's not clear to me what you have in mind. − Pintoch (talk) 10:59, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Study for[edit]

   Not done
Data type Item
Domain work (Q386724)
Allowed values work (Q386724)
Example Supper at Emmaus (Q29211543) - study for - Disciples at Emmaus (Q29211544)
Planned use potentially Commons:Template:Study for
Motivation

Quite a few items are about artworks that are sketches or studies for another one.

Alternative solutions:

User:Zolo
Jane023 (talk) 08:50, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
User:Vincent Steenberg
User:Kippelboy
User:Shonagon
Marsupium (talk) 13:46, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
GautierPoupeau (talk) 16:55, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
Multichill (talk) 19:13, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
Susannaanas (talk) 11:32, 12 August 2014 (UTC) I want to synchronize the handling of maps with this initiative
Mushroom (talk) 00:10, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
Jheald (talk) 17:09, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Spinster (talk) 15:16, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
PKM (talk) 21:16, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 17:12, 7 January 2015‎ (UTC)
Sic19 (talk) 21:12, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
Wittylama (talk) 13:13, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Armineaghayan (talk) 08:40, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
Hannolans (talk) 18:36, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
User:Martingggg
Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Visual arts --Zolo (talk) 12:12, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Discussion
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support So for one way we can use based on (P144), but we have nothing the other way around probably because we're afraid of the 1:n problem (a lot of works are based on just one work). This seems to be an excellent solution to limit the scope, but still able to make the link. Multichill (talk) 13:48, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Jane023 (talk) 18:19, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Support as very useful. - PKM (talk) 18:33, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Great! Symbol neutral vote.svg Neutral --Marsupium (talk) 20:03, 9 April 2017 (UTC), 12:20, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Seems useful! – Susanna Ånäs (Susannaanas) (talk) 06:10, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Hi folks, we should study this a bit more (pun not intended) and not be hasty about it.
    • CCO pp22 "Relationship Type and Reciprocity" says "CCO recommends that relationships between entities be reciprocal" and then gives a great table
    • CONA In Depth pp46 explains the various associative relations
    • CONA Editorial Guidelines is most detailed and gives 23 symmetric relations and 19 inverse (reciprocal) relation pairs (some curious ones are cartoon, pastiche, counterproof).

I think we should decide an approach and then model it comprehensively. We should copy the CONA relations to a new page "Visual arts/Relations", and argue/decide and document the representation for each of those relations.

Now my personal opinion: we shouldn't add 23+19+19=61 props for these relations (some of these exist, eg "different from"). I think we should group them into semantically coherent groups (eg "predecessor-successor", but I'm not claiming this is a good name for it) and use one relation per group, qualifying with an item to elaborate the detail. I think the qualifier should be on the relation, not on "instance of", i.e. something like this. The benefit is that we can extend the CONA nomenclature of relations as needed, eg see the last bullet (which is not in CONA):

  • Supper at Emmaus - successor - Disciples at Emmaus / role Study
  • Disciples at Emmaus - predecessor - Supper at Emmaus / role Study
  • Rodin's Gates of Hell in Paris - same genesis (same production) - Rodin's Gates of Hell in Zurich / role Cast
  • Cup - same context (used together) - saucer / role Conjuncted with
  • Roman marble statue - predecessor - Greek bronze original / role Copy
  • Greek bronze original - successor - Roman marble statue / role Copy
  • Andy Warhol's Colored Mona Lisa - predecessor - Leonardo's Mona Lisa / role Parody (I think it's this piece)

Hmmm, those roles don't sound entirely good when made symmetric... What do you think, maybe we should use the original detailed relation names --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 13:42, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

@Vladimir Alexiev: Interesting resourcse, but if we try to solve the whole issue, I feel like will end up in one of those endless and sometimes ultimately fruitless discussions. Still, a few thoughts:
About symmetric properties
  • We should probably avoid that 1 property in 1 way correspond to two properties in the other way. Like use "map of" and "study for" in one direction. And use "based on" as a symmetric for both.
  • I am not convinced we really need to have the create all symmetric properties. I think we need "study for", but not sure for its symmetric "study is". More generally the properties that tend to be N:1 seem more usable than 1:N (at least it makes items easier to read).
Subproperties vs qualfiers:
  • Using subproperties documented with subproperty of (P1647) is less annoying to type, and also more human-readable than more general "predecessor" / "successor" + qualifiers~. I don't think we should shy away from creating new properties when needed. Actually there are not so many of what CC0 calls "works that are related as steps in the creation proces". And all those in CCO are also in the CONA.
Label Symmetric Property Symmetric property CONA CCO Note
preparatory for based on - - Y Y based on (P144) has a wide scope, not sure it includes this "based on"
study for study is Y Y
prototype for prototype is Y Y
cartoon for cartoon is Y
model for model is Y Y
plan for plan is Y Y
original print counterproof from Y Y
printing plate for printed from plate Y Y
negative for printed from negative Y
I would be fine with creatign a property for each --Zolo (talk) 12:01, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

@Zolo: "avoid that 1 property in 1 way correspond to two properties in the other way": please elaborate, I don't understand. "no symmetric": ok, agreed, but can you always tell 1:N or N:1? "create CCO props but not CONA props": not sure this is the good decision, but ok we can start with this. "based on": yes, that is a bad name in CONA. --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 14:47, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

@Vladimir Alexiev:
"avoid that 1 property in 1 way correspond to two properties in the other way" I mean if we want a symmetric property to "study for", it should be "study in". It should not be, say, a property that is symmetric to both "study for" and "prototype for". It imply that we should rescope based on (P144).
"no symmetric": we can't always tell 1:N or N:1, that why I wrote "tend". Generally speaking, the preparatory works are the N and the final work the 1. Said differently, I think we need properties linking from a preparatory work to its final work, but not so much the symmetric linking from the final work to the preparatory work.
"create CCO props but not CONA props": I don't think I suggested that. That said, I feel we can safely create properties supported by both systems.--Zolo (talk) 15:33, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
@Zolo: Sorry, that's how I interpreted the limited table above. CONA has plenty more --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 05:29, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
@Vladimir Alexiev: CONA has many more "associative relatonships", but I think the table shows all those linking a preparatory work to a finished work. --Zolo (talk) 15:13, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
  • This property currently lacks a description. ChristianKl (talk) 12:59, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
  • What prior art exists for this relationship? Are there existing ontologies that model it out there? ChristianKl (talk) 13:02, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
@ChristianKl: The prior art is CONA and CCO, see links above --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 05:29, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose - the property does not have any description currently. The other properties mentioned should have their own proposal. − Pintoch (talk) 16:31, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Marking as  Not done as this proposal looks abandoned. Please create one proposal for each property mentioned if you want to go forward with the more elaborate schema, or reopen this proposal if you think one property is enough. In the latter case, please provide a description in English at least. − Pintoch (talk) 15:53, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Last update[edit]

   Under discussion
Description aliases: modified, updated, revised
Data type Point in time
Allowed values time
Example Brugada Syndrome (Q28071746) -> November 17, 2016 (see website)
Source dct:modified
Planned use Adding date for latest revision to dynamically changing publications
Motivation

We need a property for the last date when a work was revised. Sometimes referred to as "last update" or "time of last revision", or "last touched date". #WikiCite2017 Sj (talk) 11:39, 25 May 2017 (UTC)


Discussion
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. We searched together, and I'm very surprised there's no such prop yet! eqivalentProperty: dct:modified --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 12:05, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Is there prior art for how this relationship is called in other ontologies? ChristianKl (talk) 12:43, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
  • There is a related rfc that might be relevant in this context --Andrawaag (talk) 12:51, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
    Which one? Sj (talk)
  • I think we should be wary of making such a claim, when the subject might well have been modified between our last edit and the point in time when the data is accessed. Perhaps "date of last version consulted"? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:19, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
    • On reflection, this can be done with significant event (P793) -> "modified", qualified with point in time (P585). Hence Object. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:23, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
      • See the example site for context. This isn't about citing a wiki page (which always shows the most recent revision) and recording the date consulted. This is about citing a timestamped revision, for a document that has a publication date along with a number of major updates, and recording the update-date. Various works, rather than having a version number or distinct ID for major changes, keep the same ID but add "updated <date>" in or close to the title. So there could be distinct cites for "Brugada Syndrome (Q28071746), updated June 10, 2013" and for "Brugada Syndrome (Q28071746) updated November 17, 2016" Sj (talk) 15:18, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 18:28, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
  • @Sj, Vladimir Alexiev: Can you explain why you prefer the conceptualization of "last update" over "time of last revision" and "last touched date"? ChristianKl (talk) 13:17, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
@ChristianKl: are you asking how to call it? All of "modified, updated, revised, last update, last updated on" are appropriate. "time of last revision" is a bit wordy and "last touched date" is a bit informal (though the unix command is touch) --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 13:11, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
@Vladimir Alexiev: Part of what the property proposal discussion should be about is to find the best name among those that are appropriate. Do you have some arguments why the current one is ideal or why another might be better? ChristianKl (talk) 13:31, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Either latest update or latest revision would also be fine. Sj (talk) 22:35, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

BMI work ID[edit]

   Done. BMI Work ID (P4860) (Talk and documentation)
Description Registration of a song at BMI
Represents Broadcast Music (Q891885)
Data type External identifier
Domain song (Q7366)
Allowed values \d+
Example
Planned use reference to ISWC code and the artists of a song
Formatter URL http://repertoire.bmi.com/DetailView.aspx?detail=titleid&keyid=$1&ShowNbr=0&ShowSeqNbr=0&blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True
See also ISWC (P1827)
Motivation

In the United States BMI, ASCAP and SESAC are responsible for the management of music rights. BMI handles the rights of 12 million musical works created and owned by more than 750,000 songwriters, composers and music publishers. The BMI work number gives access of a song to the songwriter, composer and label as well as all performers of a song. Besides that it gives access to the ISWC number of the song as well as the IPI numbers of the artists. --Hannolans (talk) 15:18, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

EDIT: the deeplink doesn't seem to work, only after accepting the disclaimer conditions and do a search. Also, the disclaimer say it isn't allowed to link. If we can;t deeplink technically or legal wise, the proposal is to have the BMI number without a link for the moment. Using the BMI number without a link is less useful, but it might be available in the future somehow somewhere and it can be helpful as at the moment this database is a trusted source to verify ISWC and author information. --Hannolans (talk) 12:00, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

It looks like the above links only works when you first accept the disclaimer on this page: http://repertoire.bmi.com/Disclaimer.aspx?blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=False&blnAltTitles=False Is there a way to circumvent this or otherwise, how do we deal with this limited access sites? --Hannolans (talk) 18:37, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

  • That disclaimer says "You may not copy, distribute, download, publish, modify, reformat, reconfigure, extract, scrape, link, incorporate into other software, databases or online material, or otherwise appropriate the database or any part thereof, without the express written permission of BMI." maybe it's worth contacting them about this before creating a property? ChristianKl (talk) 13:19, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
    • What is the Wikimedia policy towards linking? In the Netherlands it is allowed to create deeplinks to content. If Wikimedia doesn't allow deeplinking and BMI is not in favor, would it make sense to have this id nonetheless as a property but without a link? Or is it useless without a link? --Hannolans (talk) 11:00, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
    • Such a term is unenforceable in UK law, and surely in US law? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:04, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:04, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Just found out that the concurrent organisation in the US, ASCAP, do make share links available to individual works they have: see for example Dancing Queen (version of Laakso, not the Abba version) I will do a proposal for that one as well --Hannolans (talk) 12:09, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support, any respectable jurisdiction treats their terms of service as unenforceable − Pintoch (talk) 13:17, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Given that the formatter URL does not work reliably I propose to just create this property without it. − Pintoch (talk) 16:00, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

@Pintoch, ChristianKl, Pigsonthewing, Hannolans: ✓ Done: BMI Work ID (P4860). − Pintoch (talk) 10:40, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

publication status[edit]

   Under discussion
Description To indicate whether a work has been published, has not yet been published, or was cancelled.
Represents Release status of a creative work, such as a novel, movie, or video game.
Data type Item
Domain A creative work, such as a novel, movie, or video game.
Allowed values released, in development, cancelled
Example Fortress (Q153070) → "cancelled", Dungeon Lords: The Orb and the Oracle (Q5315132) → "cancelled", Elveon (Q5368016) → "in development" or "unreleased", Famicom Jump II: Saikyō no Shichinin (Q4893630) → "released"
See also publication date (P577)
Wikidata:Property_proposal/Estado_actual
Motivation

I am updating several lists with information about video games. These lists are sorted chronologically, and being able to discern between released, not yet released (or "To Be Announced"), and cancelled items is important. SharkD  Talk  03:23, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

Alternately, the property could be named "development status", with values of "in development", "released" and "cancelled". SharkD  Talk  03:29, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment it would be best to have an "item" datatype for this instead of string, either pointing to existing items (for example abandoned (Q30108381) perhaps?) or creating new ones with your labels. Also you should provide one or two concrete examples in the template to show how you plan to do this (specific existing wikidata items for which this property would apply). ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:04, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
  • I made the changes you asked for. I think "stalled" might be better than "abandoned", though both will be hard to source. SharkD  Talk  15:56, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
  • similar to Wikidata:Property_proposal/Estado_actual? --Hannolans (talk) 20:05, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment it could make things easier. Currently this is sometimes handled with instance of (P31) (for things that are cancelled or projects). publication date (P577) for these would be "no value". I'm not convinced of the usefulness of this property for works that were actually published.
    --- Jura 10:19, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose. Use significant event (P793) for events like beginning of development, cancellation, etc. --Yair rand (talk) 21:44, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Per Yair rand ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 18:51, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment For things like research articles, a "publication status" property could be useful to indicate when a publication has been corrected or retracted. Note sure whether significant event (P793) would cover that. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 00:51, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
    • Significant event can be used with point in time to specify the date. The proposal as it's done above suggests no timing information and I think that would be hugely problematic given that "publication status = in development" wouldn't contain any information about when the thing was in development and whether it is at the time the reader opens the item. ChristianKl❫ 17:14, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
    • @Daniel Mietchen: Given that you add the most items about scientific papers, you are probably a good person to ask: What kind of structure does this data have in the databases from which you import? ChristianKl❫ 18:18, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

presented in[edit]

   Under discussion
Description event at which a talk, paper or poster was presented
Data type Item
Domain lecture (Q603773), scientific article (Q13442814)
Allowed values subclasses of event (Q1656682)
Example Tim Berners-Lee: The year open data went worldwide (Q22946133)TED2010 (Q22980648)
Motivation

Currently, we don't seem to have a clear property to specify the conference in which a lectures got held or a paper got presented. ChristianKl (talk) 22:44, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

Mattsenate (talk) 13:11, 8 August 2014 (UTC) KHammerstein (WMF) (talk) 13:15, 8 August 2014 (UTC) Mitar (talk) 13:17, 8 August 2014 (UTC) Mvolz (talk) 18:07, 8 August 2014 (UTC) Daniel Mietchen (talk) 18:09, 8 August 2014 (UTC) Merrilee (talk) 13:37, 9 August 2014 (UTC) Pharos (talk) 14:09, 9 August 2014 (UTC) DarTar (talk) 15:46, 9 August 2014 (UTC) HLHJ (talk) 09:11, 11 August 2014 (UTC) Lawsonstu (talk) 15:15, 11 August 2014 (UTC) Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:02, 11 August 2014 (UTC) Micru (talk) 20:11, 12 August 2014 (UTC) JakobVoss (talk) 12:23, 20 August 2014 (UTC) Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 02:06, 23 August 2014 (UTC) Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 09:24, 25 August 2014 (UTC) Abecker (talk) 23:35, 5 September 2014 (UTC) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:21, 24 October 2014 (UTC) Mike Linksvayer (talk) 23:26, 18 October 2014 (UTC) Kopiersperre (talk) 20:33, 20 October 2014 (UTC) Jonathan Dugan (talk) 21:03, 20 October 2014 (UTC) Hfordsa (talk) 19:26, 5 November 2014 (UTC) Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 15:09, 23 January 2015 (UTC) Runner1928 (talk) 03:25, 6 May 2015 (UTC) Pete F (talk) econterms (talk) 13:51, 19 August 2015 (UTC) Sj (talk) author  TomT0m / talk page guillom (talk) 21:57, 4 January 2016 (UTC) ·addshore· talk to me! 17:43, 18 January 2016 (UTC) Bodhisattwa (talk) 16:08, 29 January 2016 (UTC) Ainali (talk) 16:51, 29 January 2016 (UTC) LeadSongDog (talk) 21:42, 23 March 2016 (UTC) RobLa-WMF (talk) 01:24, 25 March 2016 (UTC) BrillLyle (talk) 04:27, 30 March 2016 (UTC) Kosboot (talk) 20:45, 30 March 2016 (UTC) Sydney Poore/FloNight♥♥♥♥ 15:10, 14 April 2016 (UTC) Peaceray (talk) 18:40, 28 April 2016 (UTC) PKM (talk) 16:29, 1 May 2016 (UTC) Aubrey (talk) 12:42, 25 August 2016 (UTC) Chiara (talk) 12:47, 25 August 2016 (UTC) Marchitelli (talk) 19:02, 1 September 2016 (UTC) YULdigitalpreservation (talk) 17:44, 9 December 2016 (UTC) Satdeep Gill (talk) 14:59, 2 February 2017 (UTC) Pintoch (talk) 09:44, 28 February 2017 (UTC) Raymond Ellis (talk) 16:06, 1 April 2017 (UTC) Crazy1880 (talk) 18:21, 16 June 2017 (UTC) T Arrow (talk) 07:55, 22 June 2017 (UTC) GerardM (talk) 08:25, 30 July 2017 (UTC) With a particular interest of opening up sources about Botany and opening up any freely licensed publications. Clifford Anderson (talk) 18:26, 11 August 2017 (UTC) Jsamwrites (talk) 07:52, 27 August 2017 (UTC) Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk) 09:52, 19 September 2017 (UTC) Capankajsmilyo (talk) 18:32, 19 September 2017 (UTC) Hsarrazin (talk) 20:41, 15 October 2017 (UTC) Mlemusrojas (talk) 10:15, 6 December 2017 (UTC) Samat (talk) Ivanhercaz Plume pen w.png (Talk) 20:27, 25 December 2017 (UTC) Simon Cobb (User:Sic19 - talk page) 21:20, 21 January 2018 (UTC) Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Source MetaData

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Sounds reasonable. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 05:53, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Could replace part of (P361) on TED talks. @Pigsonthewing, Jane023: Mahir256 (talk) 06:06, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose (see comments below) I guess this is the "book or paper promotion" version of contains (P4330). It could indeed be used in regard to certain TED talks, though it could not replace part of (P361) on the talk itselt. It could be used to refer to the talk, as in Foldscope: origami-based paper microscope (Q21090616) -> presented in -> Manu Prakash: A 50-cent microscope that folds like origami (Q22938728). Jane023 (talk) 08:37, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Please add at least another example (not related to TED) and allowed values (event?). Is there a possible super-property? Having an event presented at another event seems rather different from presenting a paper or poster at an event. -- JakobVoss (talk) 14:30, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment The proposal is probably better than the current sample. Sometimes people just present a summary of some paper. However, the above sample links the actual recording to the event. Can you add something else?
    --- Jura 19:29, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
@ChristianKl, Jsamwrites, PKM, Fuzheado: @ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, NMaia, Doc James, Jane023, Mahir256: this proposal clearly has strong support but it is not yet ready due to inadequate example and confusion about the domain and target value (see above comments). Two or three different concrete examples here would be very useful, can some of you please help to clarify this proposal so it can move forward? ArthurPSmith (talk) 16:20, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
I added an example. Again from TED, but it is an initiative presented in a TED talk, not a TED talk presented in a TED event (that would be an incorrect use of this property, in my opinion). Jane023 (talk) 14:21, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
@Jane023: A) Don't delete the existing example. B) The example you added isn't within the domain. ChristianKl () 23:41, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
OK thanks for the clarification. I withdraw my support, since I don't believe we need a an event to be "presented at" an event, though it may be "part of" an event. Jane023 (talk) 09:29, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Stardate[edit]

   Withdrawn
Description Stardate
Represents Stardate (Q1262613)
Data type Quantity
Domain TV Episodes, Films, Books, Comics, Video Games set in Star Trek multiverse (Q18043309)
Allowed values positive float *
Allowed units no units.
Example
Homestead (Q5890492)
narrative location (P840)Delta Quadrant (Q42650623)
point in time (P585) → 2378-04-05
Stardate → 54868.6
Tuvok (Q9108122)
date of birth (P569) → 2264
Stardate → 38774
Cloak (Q5134744)
narrative location (P840)Star Trek multiverse (Q18043309)
point in time (P585)unknown
Stardate → 5462.1
Source Article on Stardate in Memory Alpha
Planned use Add Stardates to every episode

* note that i did not use the Help:Data_type#time because there is no underlying or consistently used calendar for stardates

Motivation

The number can be used to indicate the relative narrative time in which a story happens. For instance the novel Cloak (Q5134744) (5462.1) happens roughly between The Empath (Q3487409) (5121.5) and For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky (Q3488452) (5476.3). The production/release order of Star Trek: The Original Series (Q1077)-Episodes does not reflect the narrative order. Stardate might be a better indicator in some cases.--Shisma (talk)

Discussion
  • My first instinct is against creating a Star Treck specific property. My second is to ask whether there's a way to generalize it. Are there other time systems taht work similarly and could be also covered by this way? ChristianKl (talk) 17:37, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
    • I had the same thought. but I discovered Pokédex number (P1112) which is also very specific. --Shisma (talk) 18:19, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
      • I created a property deletion request for Pokédex number (P1112). ChristianKl (talk) 19:38, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
      • There is just no relation with a Pokedex number. I think it makes sense to use a quantity property for Stardate as Wikidata time properties can't hold this calendar.
        --- Jura 19:51, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment how about changing this to "date in fictional calendar" and using the unit to indicate the fictional time unit? − Pintoch (talk) 14:56, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment I agree with Pintoch this should be more generic, "date in fictional calendar" sounds good although would Quantity datatype work for other examples of that? ArthurPSmith (talk) 15:35, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment I'd like a more generic approach too. How about using something generic like Time Index in the same way as this Proposal:
Homestead (Q5890492)
narrative location (P840)Delta Quadrant (Q42650623)
point in time (P585) → 2378-04-05
Time index → 54868.6 [Stardate units]
Tuvok (Q9108122)
date of birth (P569) → 2264
Time index → 38774 [Stardate units]
Cloak (Q5134744)
narrative location (P840)Star Trek multiverse (Q18043309)
point in time (P585)unknown
Time index → 5462.1 [Stardate units]

--Shisma (talk) 19:48, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

time index[edit]

   Under discussion
Description Indicate when something happens releative to its beginning
Data type Quantity
Domain Music Recordings, Films, Narratives
Allowed units Minute, Hour, Day, Week, Year… Stardate Units
Example
See also duration (P2047)

Motivation

I wanted to find a more generic modifier for Wikidata:Property_proposal/Creative_work#Stardate. That one might be useful for other things too Shisma (talk) 19:41, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Discussion

Symbol support vote.svg Support this looks like a good generalization of Wikidata:Property proposal/Stardate, useful in many other contexts. But now I wonder, are we sure we don't have this already? It looks so fundamental! − Pintoch (talk) 11:00, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support we have a lot of specific properties like this (like race time (P2781), and duration (P2047) is pretty general) but I don't think there's anything that quite matches the meaning of this among existing properties. I lowercased the name; I think this name is ok, but would "elapsed time" be a suitable alias? ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:34, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment I added one example from the withdrawn Stardate proposal --Shisma (talk) 19:24, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

I support the start of adding songs to which album they are part of, instead of jsut "part of". J 1982 (talk) 18:51, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

end time of first publication[edit]

   Under discussion
Description end time of the first publication of the series of a work, e.g. TV series, comics series; first publication date of last episode/chapter of a work
Data type Point in time
Template parameter "last_aired" in en:Template:Infobox television, "last" in en:Template:Infobox animanga/Print / en:Template:Infobox animanga/Video / en:Template:Infobox animanga/Audio
Domain instances of serial (Q15709880)
Allowed values not before value in item's publication date (P577)
Example Minami-ke (Q35191609) → 30 Dec 2007
Planned use instances of manga and anime (Q10901350) series
See also publication date (P577); This property is subproperty of (P1647) of end time (P582)
Motivation

Many manga and anime series items use end time (P582) to actually refer to publication date (P577) of the item's last chapter (Q43180447)/last episode (Q43178228), but end time (P582) is ambiguous, so I've converted those claims to publication date (P577) with applies to part (P518):last chapter (Q43180447)/last episode (Q43178228) as qualifier (see Minami-ke (Q35191609) for example).

I later found that the claim may be regarded as the end time of the first publication, as we may thought of the item as if it take a long time to finish the first publication (of the whole item), so the claim can also be end time (P582) with a qualifier of (P642):date of publication (Q1361758) (also see Minami-ke (Q35191609) for example).

It will be better to have a single dedicated property to replace the above two alternatives of equivalent property-qualifier pairs.

This issue is also discussed in this RFC.

--Ans (talk) 06:57, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

Please have one Property proposal template for each property you propose and don't mix two properties into one. Or whatever else is meant by the proposed name. ChristianKl () 00:43, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

They are just aliases of the same property --Ans (talk) 18:32, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

@Ans: Thee proposal is unclear to me (but I am not fimiliar with manga). Do you still want this property? If so, please gather more support. Otherwise, you can use |status=withdrawn in the proposal template. − Pintoch (talk) 15:33, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

dramatised by[edit]

   Under discussion
Description dramatizer of an audio production
Data type Item
Template parameter |BEA= (Bearbeitung) in de:Vorlage:Infobox Hörspiel
Domain human (Q5)
Example De geweren van vrouw Carrar (Q2396000), Dutch radio play based on Señora Carrar's Rifles by Bertolt Brecht. Dramatised by Jef Last (Q2490381)
Source HörDat (Q1644241), ARD-Hörspieldatenbank
Planned use de:Portal:Hörfunk/Wikidata lists/Hörspiele
See also screenwriter (P58) for films
Motivation

Needed for audio productions like audio drama (Q2635894). --Kolja21 (talk) 15:53, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Discussion
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose. Use screenwriter (P58), suitably relabelled. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:28, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support I think it's legitimate to have a distinct property for this. Is "dramatizer" a word that could be used as the label? ArthurPSmith (talk) 15:58, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
    • In German the profession is called "Bearbeiter" (like editor). The original works are not only novels but also for example theater plays that are already dramatized. --Kolja21 (talk) 14:25, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
  • I would like a description that goes into more detail about what it means to be a dramatizer. ChristianKl () 00:12, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
  • @Kolja21: do you still want to create this property? If so, can you answer ChristianKl's comment above? If not, please use |status=withdrawnPintoch (talk) 11:13, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
I can explain it in German. @ChristianKl: Bei vielen Hörspielen wird auf eine literarische Vorlage (z.B. ein Roman) zurückgegriffen. Als Autor wird in diesem Fall der Verfasser der Vorlage angegeben, während der Verfasser des Hörspiels als "Bearbeiter" vermerkt ist. Würde man den Bearbeiter mit einem Drehbuchautor gleichsetzen, müssten wir Hörspielautoren doppelt eintragen: Als "Autor" + "Drehbuchautor". Damit wäre sowohl das Importieren von Daten - no label (Q26810976), HörDat (Q1644241) -, wie auch die Darstellung in der Infobox Hörspiel problematisch. In der Vorlage wird daher bewusst zwischen den Parametern AUT und BEA unterschieden. --Kolja21 (talk) 14:30, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
I didn't ask for an explanation but for a description. What you wrote isn't a description that works for the property in German. "Bearbeiter eines Hörspiels" isn't a detailed description. We generally don't don't describe property by providing examples either. ChristianKl❫ 12:21, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

audience share rating[edit]

   Under discussion
Description number of viewers or rating of a television or broadcasting program; web traffic on websites
Represents audience measurement (Q847520)
Data type Quantity
Template parameter "Viewers" in en:Template:Episode list/sublist
Domain instances of broadcasting program (Q11578774), periodical literature (Q1002697), website (Q35127)
Allowed units percentage, (million) viewers
Example One Piece episode 1 (Q43371394) → 12.4
Planned use instances of One Piece episode (Q43265747)
Motivation

To import each episode data from w:List of One Piece episodes (season 1) --Ans (talk) 04:38, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Discussion
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Hmm, this seems useful generally for broadcast media, I would have thought we already had a property for this but I can't find one. ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:23, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
    • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Somehow I was convinced of that too, but apparently we don't.
      --- Jura 11:56, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Better to call this something like "audience", then it will suit for radio shows, concerts, etc. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:31, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support David (talk) 08:28, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment readership (P4295) already exists as its own stand-alone property. Thierry Caro (talk) 10:07, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
Currently, the name mixes three different names. If we want to create a property, we have to decide on one name and preferably with reasons why it's preferable to the others.ChristianKl () 12:15, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
Newspaper and magazine readership should now be excluded, as readership (P4295) already exists.
I now think "household rating" is preferred, as it cover both television and radio program. However, it not cover website. "viewers" may cover both website and television, but not cover radio.
I'm not sure "audience" will cover website or not.
However, I don't see much need to be used for neither radio nor website, so we may not try to cover all of them now. If we later found them all are needed, can we expand the scope to cover all of them later?
I prefer "household rating" to cover only tv/radio, rather than "viewers" for tv/website, since tv and radio are more closely ralated in many aspect than tv and website.
Or can we instead expand the scope of existing readership (P4295) to also cover tv and radio?
--Ans (talk) 18:40, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Current suggestion for a label is "household rating". I can't find that on w:Audience measurement. Any ref for this term?
    --- Jura 18:58, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
    • Maybe for a more generic name, "viewer share" would be preferable. Should this only be in percentages?
      --- Jura 18:52, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
      • Should be "viewer rating" so it can be any units, not only percentage, but better be "audience rating" to also include radios. But "audience rating" may be confusing with content rating system (Q5165090), so use "audience share rating" to solve those issues. Summary: I propose "audience share rating". --Ans (talk) 12:14, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
        • I don't quite get why we'd include "rating" in the label? Isn't it about share or size?
          --- Jura 19:39, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Percentages/shares alone are not all that useful, if we don't include information about what exactly was measured. Measurements and their meaning can vary quite a bit by country and time period. And the general structure of the television market also varies by country. Shares/percentages can refer only to the first broadcast, include parallel broadcasts on SD and HD channels, include digital recordings (viewed on the same day, live + 3 days, live + 7 days), include streams, etc.. And we also need information about the source of the measured share/number of viewers (Nielsen ratings (Q1618101), Broadcasters' Audience Research Board (Q4972121), GfK SE (Q701088), etc.). --Kam Solusar (talk) 16:13, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

abstract available at[edit]

   Under discussion
Description URL where an abstract of the full work is available
Represents abstract (Q333291)
Data type URL
Domain works
Allowed values valid URLs
Example Arizonacritus talayesvai, nouveau genre et nouvelle espèce des Etats-Unis d'Amérique et du Mexique (Coleoptera, Histeridae) (Q47451110)http://www.refdoc.fr/Detailnotice?idarticle=55144325
See also full work available at (P953)

Motivation

Needed for WikiCite, especially when full works are not (freely) available online - I was surprised to find we don't already have this. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:42, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Discussion

Something like this:

described at URL
Normal rank http://www.refdoc.fr/Detailnotice?idarticle=55144325 Arbcom ru editing.svg edit
applies to part abstract
▼ 0 reference
+ add reference
+ add value

Pintoch (talk) 10:49, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

The Big Cartoon DataBase ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description ID of a film in Big Cartoon DataBase (Q1208798)
Represents Big Cartoon DataBase (Q1208798)
Data type External identifier
Domain film
Allowed values number
Example The Legend of the Titanic (Q7746835)140816
Source Template:Bcdb title (Q7169254)
Formatter URL https://www.bcdb.com/bcdb/cartoon.cgi?film=$1
Robot and gadget jobs Import from Wikipedia

Motivation

(Add your motivation for this property here.) GZWDer (talk) 14:36, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Discussion

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support David (talk) 16:20, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Catalogue list page[edit]

   Under discussion
Description Catalogue list page
Data type String
Domain catalogues
Allowed values works
Example J.-B. de la Faille: L'Œuvre de Vincent van Gogh, catalogue raisonné (Q17280421) → Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Catalog/L'Œuvre de Vincent van Gogh, catalogue raisonné
Planned use maintenance, documentation
See also has list (P2354)

Motivation

Many artworks are associated with a catalogue number in a catalogue (see catalog (P972). This allows to create an Listeria-maintained page with a list of the works in the catalogue, which is useful for both maintenance and information. But these pages are somewhat hard to find for the uninitiated. This property would make that easier. It would also make it easy to find catalogues that have not their own list page. User:Zolo
Jane023 (talk) 08:50, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
User:Vincent Steenberg
User:Kippelboy
User:Shonagon
Marsupium (talk) 13:46, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
GautierPoupeau (talk) 16:55, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
Multichill (talk) 19:13, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
Susannaanas (talk) 11:32, 12 August 2014 (UTC) I want to synchronize the handling of maps with this initiative
Mushroom (talk) 00:10, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
Jheald (talk) 17:09, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Spinster (talk) 15:16, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
PKM (talk) 21:16, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 17:12, 7 January 2015‎ (UTC)
Sic19 (talk) 21:12, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
Wittylama (talk) 13:13, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Armineaghayan (talk) 08:40, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
Hannolans (talk) 18:36, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
User:Martingggg
Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Visual arts

Note: I can't ~think of a good, simple, unambiguous name for the property.--Zolo (talk) 13:02, 4 February 2018 (UTC)


Discussion

Interesting! I suppose I never thought of formalizing this structure but it would be handy. The focus list is more of an alternate for cases where there is no catalog but an indication of "item in a focus list by a WikiProject". This property can be seen as a reverse of that; the list is inferred from the items including a P972, and presumbly people on such an item may wish to see the list. Unitl now we were only thinking in terms of "I have a list and want to flesh out the items in the list", not "I have a bunch of queryable items and maybe someone has built a list for that already so I don't have to". Jane023 (talk) 16:21, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
On second thought it would be nice to have just a random "local list for this item" that can be used more than once. So paintings per painter vs drawings per painter, or catalogued items per catalog, or paintings per museum and so on. I just created this for example: Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Collection/National Gallery of Ireland. Jane023 (talk) 14:34, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
Ooh yes I like that very much! This would work for catalogs as well of course. Jane023 (talk) 17:25, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
Using the same property for catalogue -> list of works in the catalogue and museum -> list of works in the museum seems to make sense but using has list (P2354) is not really accurate semantically. The example provided for this property is President of France -> list of French Presidents. The relation is not the same. It would have to be National Gallery -> list of National Galleries. That may sound like nitpicking, but I am unconfortable with that.
As far as I understand, focus list does something quite different. It is more analogous to has part (P527) than to this proposal. --Zolo (talk) 17:37, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
There was some discussion about this on the property talk page. The sample in the proposal was larger and should still be valid.
--- Jura 17:53, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
I don't think we are mixing anything. If I look at the current Wikidata list for Caspar David Friedrich here List of works by Caspar David Friedrich (Q3044675), it looks like the SoaP page is more complete than most wikis though the German one is best. This gives people yet another reason to check Wikidata in case they see something useful for their local wiki. Jane023 (talk) 18:48, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Personally, I make a difference between "maintenance reports" and "reference lists":
    1. The first include listings of items lacking this or that property or have this or that issue (similar to constraint reports). These would generally have __NOINDEX__
    2. the second are lists that could also be at Wikipedia (and eventually should ;) ). Ideally these would be complete, but depending on the topic, this isn't necessarily true. They generally cover a specific topic (other than an identifier).
      --- Jura 11:52, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Atarimania identifier[edit]

Description identifier in the Atarimania database of Atari videogames
Data type External identifier
Domain video game (Q7889)
Allowed values [1-9]\d*
Example
External links Use in sister projects: [de][en][es][fr][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned use Template:Atarimania (Q25913730)
Formatter URL http://www.atarimania.com/detail_soft.php?VERSION_ID=$1
Robot and gadget jobs Mix’n’match catalogue

Motivation

Database of 25,000 videogames published on Atari 2600 (Q206261), Atari 5200 (Q743222), Atari Jaguar (Q650601), Atari 8-bit family (Q249075) and Atari ST (Q627302). 410 transclusions of Template:Atarimania (Q25913730) on it, few dozens on en/fr. Will make a mix’n’match catalogue for it. Jean-Fred (talk) 19:27, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Discussion

@YULdigitalpreservation, Jean-Frédéric, Manu1400, ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2: ✓ Done: Atarimania identifier (P4859). − Pintoch (talk) 10:36, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

AtariAge identifier[edit]

Description identifier in the AtariAge database of Atari videogames
Data type External identifier
Domain video game (Q7889)
Allowed values [1-9]\d*
Example
External links Use in sister projects: [de][en][es][fr][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned use Template:AtariAge (Q25737121)
Formatter URL https://atariage.com/software_page.php?SoftwareLabelID=$1
Robot and gadget jobs Mix’n’match catalogue

Motivation


Database of 1373 videogames published on Atari 2600 (Q206261), Atari 5200 (Q743222), Atari 7800 (Q753600), Atari Jaguar (Q650601), Atari Lynx (Q753657). 20 transclusions of Template:AtariAge (Q25737121) on es, few dozens links on en/fr. Will make a mix’n’match catalogue for it. Jean-Fred (talk) 19:46, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Discussion

@ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, YULdigitalpreservation, Jean-Frédéric: ✓ Done: AtariAge identifier (P4857). − Pintoch (talk) 10:33, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Atari Legend identifier[edit]

Description identifier in the Atari Legend database of Atari videogames
Data type External identifier
Domain video game (Q7889)
Allowed values [1-9]\d*
Example
External links Use in sister projects: [de][en][es][fr][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Formatter URL http://www.atarilegend.com/games/games_detail.php?game_id=$1
Robot and gadget jobs Mix’n’match catalogue

Motivation

Database of 5136 videogames published on Atari ST (Q627302). Few dozens links across en/fr/sv. Cross-linked from Lemon Amiga. Will make a mix’n’match catalogue for it. Jean-Fred (talk) 20:07, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Discussion

@ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Jean-Frédéric, YULdigitalpreservation: ✓ Done: Atari Legend identifier (P4858). − Pintoch (talk) 10:34, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

ACE work ID[edit]

   Under discussion
Description Registration of a song at ASCAP
Represents American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (Q373087)
Data type External identifier
Domain song (Q7366)
Allowed values \d+
Example
Planned use reference to ISWC code and the artists of a song
Formatter URL https://www.ascap.com/repertory#ace/search/workID/$1
See also BMI Work ID (P4860)
Motivation

In the United States BMI, ASCAP and SESAC are responsible for the management of music rights. ASCAP handles the rights of 625,000 songwriters, composers, and music publishers, with over 10,000,000 registered works. The ACE work number gives access of a song to the songwriter, composer and label as well as all performers of a song. Besides that it gives access to the ISWC number of the song as well as the IPI numbers of the artists. --Hannolans (talk) 17:21, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support David (talk) 14:32, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Now that we have BMI Work ID this makes every bit of sense, they go hand in hand imo. Moebeus (talk) 19:02, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

PROPERTY NAME IN English[edit]

   Under discussion
Description id of an exhibition in the Brooklyn Museum's "opencollection" subwebsite
Data type External identifier
Domain exhibitions
Allowed values d+
Example Converging Cultures: Art & Identity in Spanish America (Q49758044) -> 1048

Motivation

Same as Brooklyn Museum artwork ID (P4740) but for exhibitions. More convenient than using full URLs. User:Zolo
Jane023 (talk) 08:50, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
User:Vincent Steenberg
User:Kippelboy
User:Shonagon
Marsupium (talk) 13:46, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
GautierPoupeau (talk) 16:55, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
Multichill (talk) 19:13, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
Susannaanas (talk) 11:32, 12 August 2014 (UTC) I want to synchronize the handling of maps with this initiative
Mushroom (talk) 00:10, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
Jheald (talk) 17:09, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Spinster (talk) 15:16, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
PKM (talk) 21:16, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 17:12, 7 January 2015‎ (UTC)
Sic19 (talk) 21:12, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
Wittylama (talk) 13:13, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Armineaghayan (talk) 08:40, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
Hannolans (talk) 18:36, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
User:Martingggg
Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Visual arts. Data about the items shown at the exhibition can probably be bot-extracted to Wikidata. Zolo (talk) 08:35, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Discussion