Property talk:P800

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notable work
notable scientific, artistic or literary work, or other work of significance among subject's works
Representswork (Q386724), magnum opus (Q491014)
Data typeItem
Template parameteren:Template:Infobox writer, parameter notableworks
DomainPerson (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
ExampleWilliam Shakespeare (Q692)Hamlet (Q41567)
J. K. Rowling (Q34660)Harry Potter (Q8337)
Leonardo da Vinci (Q762)Mona Lisa (Q12418)
Tracking: sameno label (Q42533298)
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P800 (Q20990057)
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Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses27,143
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[create] Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here
Value type “work (Q386724), rule (Q1151067), concept (Q151885), academic discipline (Q11862829), principle (Q211364): This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value work (Q386724), rule (Q1151067), concept (Q151885), academic discipline (Q11862829), principle (Q211364) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P800#Value type Q386724, Q1151067, Q151885, Q11862829, Q211364, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
None of novel (Q8261): value must not be any of the specified items. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P800#none of, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
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This property is being used by:

Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)


Definition[edit]

Are author (P50) <-> work (P800) inverse properties? In other words: Should all works of an author that have a WD item are added or only the major works? Please leave comments here. --Kolja21 (talk) 01:27, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Moved to: Wikidata:Project chat/Archive/2014/02 --Kolja21 (talk) 18:00, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
Imho notable work (P800) should only be used for the (main) books of an author and not (single) editions or articles. --Kolja21 (talk) 03:19, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
I agree. Major works only. Two or three per person unless they are pretty extraordinary. Filceolaire (talk) 15:07, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
Imho this property can also be used for translators. Any experience with that or objections? --Kolja21 (talk) 19:55, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
"unless they are pretty extraordinary." Yes, this means that significant artists may have more masterpieces than two three. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 06:26, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

relevant art works in museums[edit]

Can't we use this property also for museums. IMHO this is better than to create another property. Query doesn't help here, as it gives back to many artworks. With view to the museum there are less artworks relevant. I really think about e.g. The Night Watch (Q219831) in Rijksmuseum (Q190804)--Oursana (talk) 11:45, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Symbol support vote.svg Support I think it would be a good idea to extend it to museums. I note that Hirschsprung Collection (Q2982867) maintains their list of 20 œuvre notable [1]. It would be of interest to list these under Hirschsprung Collection (Q2982867). I do not see any problems using notable work (P800) for that. Is there? Alternatively one could construct a separate item called "20 main works in Hirschsprung Collection (Q2982867) and then use has part (P527)Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 13:12, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
I'm also OK with that though such things are at risk to become Wikipedia:No original research (Q4656524). That's also why I wouldn't prefer the solution with extra items (and I wouldn't know how to link those extra items to the museum). --Marsupium (talk) 21:39, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
I'm not against this proposal. Wikipedia articles also contain a selection of notable painting, see for example en:Rijksmuseum#Gallery, so having a similar system here makes sense. I am against an explosion of items linked this way and against people edit warring over what item should(n't) be on the museum item. We could set a (arbitrary) hard limit to prevent the long lists, say 10, and assume good faith for the second part. Coming to think of it, the Wikipedia gallery good be generated based on this. Maybe not on the English version, but other language version (ca:Rijksmuseum?) could use a curated gallery. Multichill (talk) 21:57, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
Will we do so?--Oursana (talk) 21:55, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

as a qualifier for time of earliest written record (P1249)[edit]

Can I use notable work (P800) as a qualifier for time of earliest written record (P1249)? See for instance Manichaeism (Q131165). — nojhan () 20:01, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Seems reasonable to me. Runner1928 (talk) 20:04, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
Property_talk:P1249 recommends stated in (P248)
--- Jura 11:07, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
I'm not sure it's the right thing to use. For instance, Manichaeism (Q131165) has its time of earliest written record (P1249) in 242, because Shabuhragan (Q900603) has been written at this date. I know that because it's stated in (P248) Special:BookSources/3883090433. But in itself, the date is NOT stated in (P248) Shabuhragan (Q900603). However, I find rather straigtforward that Shabuhragan (Q900603) is an notable work (P800) of Manichaeism (Q131165) illustrating its time of earliest written record (P1249). Or maybe there is/should be a "earliest written record" property that does not take a date as parameter? — nojhan () 16:38, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

architectural firm[edit]

Can this property be used for notable works from architectural firm Q4387609? Breg --Pmt (talk) 13:08, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Use this property for architects and work they have done?[edit]

I would suggest that this property is used also for buildings an architect has been part of creating - Salgo60 (talk) 07:00, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Discoveries[edit]

Should this property be used for discoveries? Say, Kapteyn b (Q17128167) for Guillem Anglada-Escudé (Q26699548) or Americas (Q828) for Christopher Columbus (Q7322) --eugrus (talk) 19:42, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

I suggest discoverer or inventor (P61) see Q217369#P61 - Salgo60 (talk) 20:30, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
I mean the property to set on the discoverer's entity linking to his discovery, not the other way around. --eugrus (talk) 14:54, 13 March 2018 (UTC)