Property talk:P734

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family name
surname or last name of a person
DescriptionThe surname, family name, or the last name of a person. This only applies to persons who have a last name. This provides a machine readable version of the label for person items. See also: given name (P735).
Representsfamily name (Q101352)
Data typeItem
Domainhuman (Q5), fictional character (Q95074), family (Q8436), sibling group (Q16979650) and character that may be fictional (Q21070598)
ExampleJack Bauer (Q24)Bauer (Q1965022)
Kim Ji-yeon (Q485431)Kim (Q13083721)
Kim Bauer (Q1049347)Bauer (Q1965022)
Sourceen:Template:Chinese name (note: this information should be moved to a property statement; use property source website for the property (P1896))
Tracking: sameno label (Q42533380)
Tracking: usageCategory:Wikipedia:P734 used (Q29459691)
See alsogiven name (P735), second family name in Spanish name (P1950), family (P53), patronym or matronym for this person (P5056)
Lists
Proposal discussionProperty proposal/Archive/11#P734
Current uses926,671
[create] Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here
Conflicts with “given name version for other gender (P1560): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P734#Conflicts with P1560, hourly updated report, SPARQL
Conflicts with “instance of (P31): family name (Q101352), male given name (Q12308941), female given name (Q11879590), unisex given name (Q3409032), given name (Q202444): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P734#Conflicts with P31, hourly updated report, SPARQL
Conflicts with “instance of (P31): Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P734#Conflicts with P31, hourly updated report, SPARQL
Type “human (Q5), fictional character (Q95074), family (Q8436), sibling group (Q16979650), character that may be fictional (Q21070598): element must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “human (Q5), fictional character (Q95074), family (Q8436), sibling group (Q16979650), character that may be fictional (Q21070598)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P734#Type Q5, Q95074, Q8436, Q16979650, Q21070598, SPARQL
Value type “family name (Q101352): This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value family name (Q101352) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Known exceptions: anonymous (Q4233718)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P734#Value type Q101352, SPARQL
Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P734#scope
Property “native label (P1705)” declared by target items of “family name (P734): If [item A] has this property with value [item B], [item B] is required to have property “native label (P1705)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P734#Target required claim P1705, SPARQL, SPARQL (by value)
Conflicts with “family name identical to this given name (P1533): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P734#Conflicts with P1533, hourly updated report, SPARQL
Property “writing system (P282)” declared by target items of “family name (P734): If [item A] has this property with value [item B], [item B] is required to have property “writing system (P282)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P734#Target required claim P282, SPARQL, SPARQL (by value)

Include Icelandic "last" name?[edit]

How should we link items for Icelandic son/dóttir from items for people? The easiest solution might be to use this.
--- Jura 17:43, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

@Jura1: We have patronym or matronym for this name (P2976). --Yair rand (talk) 19:56, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
@Jura1: Actually, it appears that I was mistaken. P2976 is for linking from given names, to equivalents. We don't appear to have such a property for linking from humans, so I've started a proposal at Wikidata:Property proposal/Patronym or matronym. --Yair rand (talk) 23:30, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

group of humans (Q16334295) to be used in violation 'type' to exclude[edit]

It would seem that Q16334295 should be added as an acceptable value to check for violations. At the moment, things utilising this item appear as a violation of this property.  — billinghurst sDrewth 08:52, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Meant to involve fictional people?[edit]

I am seeing conflicting statements. The descriptive data indicates that this is for a person, though the constraints indicate that fictional people are allowed. Which is it? Seems weird that we would assign a family name to a fictional creation.  — billinghurst sDrewth 05:23, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Patronym proposal[edit]

There is an ongoing property proposal to create a new property to represent patronyms or matronyms, for "last names" that are formed from a parent's given name and passed on for one generation only. Deryck Chan (talk) 14:26, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

Inflected family names[edit]

How should we deal with inflected family names? For example, should Maria Sharapova (Q11666) get Sharapov (Q4520420) because (I presume), it's the feminine form of the base name? Bovlb (talk) 23:49, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

I'm struggling with the same issue for Bronisława Dłuska (Q8861061), and whether Dłuski (Q44296062) is appropriate even though it should be declined with -a. To my mind, there's two ways of dealing with it:
  • Create a new page for the inflected feminine form and mark it as an instance of the inflected masculine form;
  • Create new pages for a "root" form and the inflected feminine form, and mark both the feminine and the masculine forms as instances of the root form. Sasuke Sarutobi (talk) 13:08, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
Or treat them as the same family name with aliases or female form of label (P2521). See also given name version for other gender (P1560). Bovlb (talk) 18:31, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Removed "value requires statement" constraint[edit]

I've removed property constraint (P2302): value requires statement constraint (Q21510864) for "instance of", as it was causing error messages when INSEE municipality code (P374) is listed on Wikidata items for people (e.g. Bronisława Dłuska (Q8861061)) (essentially, it was telling editors to list a statement as an instance of itself). I guess the requirement was there for items relating to the family names themselves? Sasuke Sarutobi (talk) 13:15, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

  • It probably works better with Q47030363 (or a new family name item) as value, instead of Q44296062 (a disambiguation item).
    --- Jura 13:49, 15 July 2018 (UTC)