Property talk:P157
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person or organization who killed the subject
Description | person who killed subject | ||||||||||||
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Represents | murderer (Q931260), executioner (Q207651) | ||||||||||||
Data type | Item | ||||||||||||
Domain | According to this template:
person (Q215627), organism (Q7239)
According to statements in the property:
When possible, data should only be stored as statementshuman (Q5), fictional character (Q95074), character that may or may not be fictional (Q21070598) or individual animal (Q26401003) | ||||||||||||
Allowed values | people (and maybe, in exceptional cases, entities, but probably not) (note: this should be moved to the property statements) | ||||||||||||
Example | Holofernes (Q625748) → Judith (Q3187975) Archduke Franz Ferdinand (Q43063) → Gavrilo Princip (Q80492) Medusa (Q160730) → Perseus (Q130832) John F. Kennedy (Q9696) → Lee Harvey Oswald (Q48745) | ||||||||||||
Tracking: usage | Category:Pages using Wikidata property P157 (Q26250065) | ||||||||||||
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Living people protection class | property likely to be challenged (Q44597997) | ||||||||||||
Proposal discussion | Proposal discussion | ||||||||||||
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List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P157#Value type Q5, Q95074, Q43229, Q14514600, Q4271324, Q44554, Q13430821, Q24334685, Q21070568, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P157#Type Q5, Q95074, Q21070598, Q26401003, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P157#Item P20, search, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P157#Item P570, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P157#Item P1196
if [item A] has this property (killed by (P157)) linked to [item B],
then [item A] and [item B] have to coincide or coexist at some point of history. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P157#Contemporary, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P157#citation needed
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P157#Entity types
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P157#Scope, SPARQL
This property is being used by:
Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.) |
if [item A] has this property (P157) linked to [item B],
then [item A] and [item B] have to coincide or coexist at some point of history.
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P157#Contemporary, SPARQL
name and alias
[edit]I think "killed by" is all that is needed. Assassination only applies to prominent victims such as presidents and heads of state, and killed by covers that anyhow. Danrok (talk) 02:57, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
- That's why the aliases aren't listed as the label. But we need them there for the convenience of people typing into the claim box, especially since this property had like 5 different suggested names at WD:PP. — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 18:46, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Why not suicide?
[edit]I see that people are thinking murder, assassination... but this can work equally well for suicides, can it not, simply by entering the name of the subject for this property? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 02:06, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
- I suppose it could work but I'm not a big fan of that idea. Murder and suicide are very distinct things. If people write a query to know the list of people killed by Marilyn Monroe, we should return an empty list. Worse yet, if someone hopes to get the list of victims in the Columbine massacre through the query "people killed by Q2268542", all they're going to get is "Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold". I think that's a pretty bad outcome. Pichpich (talk) 03:44, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
- Since Marilyn Monroe killed herself, I don't see why it should return an empty list. But I've stated my argument and won't belabour it. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 03:50, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
- I don't know what you mean by the words "murder" and "suicide" that make them very distinct things in your mind, but the label of this property is "killed by", and the very definition of suicide is a person intentionally killing themselves. In other words, "A killed by A" means "A commited suicide". Therefore, we shouldn't return an empty list for the list of people killed by Marilyn Monroe, and I don't see by what reasoning "people killed by Q2268542" would return only "Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold"; it should return their victims as well as themselves. Silver hr (talk) 01:42, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
Use manner of death (P1196) to capture information about suicide. The 'killed by' claim can then trivially be inferred; there's no need to add that kind of redundant information. Emw (talk) 18:46, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
Inverse property and qualifiers for this?
[edit]I am trying to use this property and I notice you can link a victim to his/her murderer, but you can't link back - we need the inverse property, which I will propose. Also, I think we need some qualifiers for the property (by gunshot, by strangulation, etc) Jane023 (talk) 08:22, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Inventors killed by their own invention
[edit]SELECT ?inventor ?inventorLabel ?gadet ?gadgetLabel
WHERE {
?inventor wdt:P157 ?gadget .
?gadet wdt:P61 ?inventor .
SERVICE wikibase:label {
bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "en" .
?inventor rdfs:label ?inventorLabel .
?gadget rdfs:label ?gadgetLabel .
}
}
--Tobias1984 (talk) 13:19, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
Extend this property to organizations
[edit]Plenty of times a person is killed by an organization in which there is no identifiable person. Examples include:
- Nikolay Abelman (Q1761095) killed by Black Hundreds (Q940855)
- Osama bin Laden (Q1317) killed by United States Naval Special Warfare Development Group (Q963354) and so on.
I think we should include organization (Q43229) en their subclasses as valid values for this property.--Zeroth (talk) 01:55, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- Tom Fox (Q1658809) killed by Swords of Righteousness Brigade (Q2925327)--MHM55 (talk) 09:52, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- Strong +1. Another good example: Category:People executed by the Kingdom of England by burning (Q13282183). ElanHR (talk) 08:27, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
- Done. here.--Zeroth (talk) 21:17, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
Death penalty
[edit]James Corbitt Q1613613 was hanged by Albert Pierrepoint (Q945914) – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bahnmoeller (talk • contribs) at 22:45, 4 August 2019 (UTC).
Include <type of crash> to manner of death--accident?
[edit]Is it not possible to add the type of accidents, e.g., car crash, airplane crash to this killed by (P157), see Zheng Zhenduo (Q6124178)? Thank you. ShiehJ (talk) 15:12, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- shouldn't that use cause of death (P509)? BrokenSegue (talk) 01:19, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
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