User talk:Salgo60
Add topicOutdoor gyms, notability?
[edit]Why do you think that e.g. this outdoor gym in Estonia Q112800137 is notable for Wikidata? Estopedist1 (talk) 22:16, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- why not....
- see
- - Salgo60 (talk) 16:31, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
- That is not how it works. If someone asks why something is notable, you should know which of the criteria it meets and explain it. Especially since the item itself does not show notability through the statements and references. Ainali (talk) 14:37, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete it if its a problem ;-) I guess that is the way it works... in an open community - Salgo60 (talk) 14:40, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- It is not a community open for spam. Ainali (talk) 14:54, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- its not rocket science ;-) - Salgo60 (talk) 15:32, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- It is not a community open for spam. Ainali (talk) 14:54, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete it if its a problem ;-) I guess that is the way it works... in an open community - Salgo60 (talk) 14:40, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- That is not how it works. If someone asks why something is notable, you should know which of the criteria it meets and explain it. Especially since the item itself does not show notability through the statements and references. Ainali (talk) 14:37, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
Q132609646 notability?
[edit]Which notability criteria does this meet? Ainali (talk) 14:36, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- See SBL 11205 - Salgo60 (talk) 14:39, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- I note that you avoid answering the question, and also using a link not used on the item itself. Ainali (talk) 14:53, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- Let me know what you dont understand Dictionary of Swedish National Biography (Q379406) are writing articles about family (swedish släkter) that are notable according to them . They have wrong designed those articles as they dont use persistent identifieras for identified persons see longer explanation in Swedish #7 "Riksarkivet SBL: Släktartiklar saknar persistenta identifierare för personerna i biografierna" .... - Salgo60 (talk) 15:36, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- I note that you avoid answering the question, and also using a link not used on the item itself. Ainali (talk) 14:53, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
Duplicated items
[edit]Hi! By duplicating an element you have created several new elements, but you have not corrected the tags. These are the ones in question:
Q122413235 Q123502599 Q123930084 Q111149276
I have just corrected the Hungarian labels, but they are still the same in French, they need to be corrected, but I can't help you with that. Pallor (talk) 23:39, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks - Salgo60 (talk) 03:36, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
"Not found in OSM/Mapillary"
[edit]Hello, I just ran a search for items with not found in (P9660) OpenStreetMap (Q936) but have an OpenStreetMap node ID (P11693) (I've already checked ways / relations) and noticed a few items you've added both to:
As the subject matter is BBQ areas in Sweden (something I have no experience with) I was hoping you could check them.
The link should show all 6 items with both claims (not on OSM, OSM node ID) however there's also an issue with several items having the same Node ID & Mapillary ID:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q130389482
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q130389357
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q130389509
The Mapillary image only shows 1 BBQ area so maybe there's some duplication going on?
https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=404097715697958 Tæppa (talk) 20:03, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks we have been using OSM Notes and got values and not deleted not found in (P9660) - Salgo60 (talk) 20:19, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
Creating and then keeping duplicate detected by same Geni ID 2025-03-08
[edit]- https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q106239274&diff=prev&oldid=1605504620
- https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q133189273&diff=prev&oldid=2321672684
Herzogen (talk) 15:39, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
Creating and then keeping duplicate detected by same Geni ID 2024-12-27
[edit]- https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q131544195&diff=prev&oldid=2290755671
- https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q131572416&diff=prev&oldid=2291734283
Herzogen (talk) 15:44, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
Adding same Geni ID to second item and then adding another to that 2025-03-05
[edit]- https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q133055001&diff=prev&oldid=2320540165 - from spouse for spouse
- https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q133055001&diff=prev&oldid=2320540287 - human itself
Herzogen (talk) 10:28, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
Hi, I reverted your latest edits to Q131318799 as not constructive. You added a badge that is not in line with badges at the connected site and you added unknown costs for a trail, while costs do not seem relevant for trails. Please refrain from such edits. Lymantria (talk) 12:36, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, also please stop the edit war there. Regardless of what your opinion of wikivoyage is, the link is valid. BRP ever 12:44, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Lymantria Cost is what we tax payer pay
- the unknow is a place holder some extra costs I heard of this week that I need to find a source for...
- we have quality problem with en.wikivoyage its some kind of Dunning–Kruger effect (Q639444) we see people with limited or no competence about the trail overestimate their abilities....
- had a long discussion today with a writer of a swedish book on the subject "Vandra i Stockholms skärgård" en."Hikes in the Stockholm Archipelago book"
- I told her about the odd understanding of the difficulties we see on en.wikivoyage were people explain how to travel with ferries, rent a boat or rent a car...
- She told me that her husband is driving one of the boats (Arholma ferry stop (Q133885585) <-> Simpnäs ferry stop (Q133885677)) and he has problem understand the timetable
- I told her about the odd understanding of the difficulties we see on en.wikivoyage were people explain how to travel with ferries, rent a boat or rent a car...
- My feeling is that as long as no one is fact checking what is written over at en.wikivoyage you will have no one understanding the quality problems...
- had a long discussion today with a writer of a swedish book on the subject "Vandra i Stockholms skärgård" en."Hikes in the Stockholm Archipelago book"
- test with chatGPT to explain the problems understanding Stockholm Archipelago ferries
- Advice: focus on getting someone to fact check what is written wikivoyage its just stupid to say that this article is not problematic (Q20748094)
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- OT: The dialogue I have with the author of the book in Swedish on youtube and GITHUB issue #86 it feels we have the same understanding of the challenges and problems...
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- en.wikivoyage is not a big deal its just sad that the quality is more confusing than helping the reader... and that we dont fact check what is written...
- Salgo60 (talk) 14:05, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- A badge is to resemble the situation at the site to which is pointed. So in this case it would mean that the article at enwikivoyage is marked problematic at enwikivoyage. Which is not the case. You may have problems with the quality at enwikivoyage, but that is not something to deal with here at wikidata. --Lymantria (talk) 16:28, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- ok logic... but disappointing in this case... would have been nice to have Rank - Salgo60 (talk) 16:32, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- A badge is to resemble the situation at the site to which is pointed. So in this case it would mean that the article at enwikivoyage is marked problematic at enwikivoyage. Which is not the case. You may have problems with the quality at enwikivoyage, but that is not something to deal with here at wikidata. --Lymantria (talk) 16:28, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
Hello. About the icon for mines: it is worth choosing something appropriate (for example, 
industry). But not a volcano. Leon II (talk) 10:02, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Leon II no problem if you find something better... there is a small set of icons so I try to get
- that all objects of the same kind looks alike
- that the color and icon is unique
- that the symbol make some meaning
- I feel this can also be used on Wikipedia not just Wikicommons see static try on Stockholm Archipelago Trail - Wikipedia en:Wikipedia] Salgo60 (talk) 10:19, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- The “industry” icon is more appropriate (at least, a mine is an industrial facility). I recommend dark gray as the color. Leon II (talk) 10:32, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- just change Salgo60 (talk) 10:36, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Done) Leon II (talk) 15:50, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- just change Salgo60 (talk) 10:36, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- The “industry” icon is more appropriate (at least, a mine is an industrial facility). I recommend dark gray as the color. Leon II (talk) 10:32, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
Roslagsleden
[edit]Hey! Thanks a bunch for adding the different sections for Roslagsleden! This does have an effect on Wikivoyage articles that use geolines (https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Roslagsleden). If all sections are added correctly, the geoline can be changed into Template:Mapshapes so it renders properly again. I also noticed that two sections do still show up, so they probably don't have the correct wikidata ids added on OSM (Roslagsbro - Bagghus/Gåsvik and Wira Bruk - Penningby). Bluecoordinationfine (talk) 23:19, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
Member of - series ordinal
[edit]Hi! In Johan Adam Tingstadius (Q2073153) I don't understand the use of series ordinal (P1545) as qualifier of member of (P463) ... should it maybe be substituted by membership number (P11327)? Thanks in advance, --Epìdosis 12:44, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- I have done a lot of edits please explain more - Salgo60 (talk) 15:20, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- Looks like you speak about Kungliga Vitterhetsakademien they track the number
- see Tingstadius, Johan Adam | Kungl. Vitterhetsakademien
- "Hedersledamot - Invald 1805-05-21 (nr 27)" Salgo60 (talk) 15:24, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
Angående din tillbakarullning på OpenStreetMap relation ID (P402)
[edit]Alltså denna redigering: Special:Diff/2428950502: Om man tar en av egenskapsexemplen, exempelvis Berlin, kommer man till https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/62422#map=11/52.5072/13.4248 där det i faktarutan står angivet Förbindelse: Berlin (62422) Version #343. Var ser du att dom använder relation på OSM eller menar du på att dom är inkonsekventa? Sabelöga (talk) 05:35, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- Sabelöga bättre diskutera detta på diskussionssidan av P402
- läser du längre ned på sidan du refererar står det "del av Reöationer"
- jag skickar in en fråga till OSM forum vad dom tycker känns som dom inte är konsekventa....
- rent generellt tycker jag det är ett otyg att ändra namn på Wikidata egenskaper det skapar osäkerhet om det är nya egenskaper med ny innebörd eller gamla med nya namn.... eftersom man använder "labeln" när man skriver SPARQL frågor så blir det enormt jobbigt att namnet inte fungerar... och man skall leta reda på P<numret> eller nya översättningen
- - 07:59, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- Sabelöga Första feedbacken hos OSM är att någon har översatt det "...helt på eget bevåg, med svag motivering?"
- tror vi skall ligga lågt till OSM har ett koncensus
- - Salgo60 (talk) 09:37, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- Hm, verkar som att någon översatt det konstigt på translatewiki.net (kanske jag). Nåväl hursomhelst åtgärdat på wiki. Rättat till relation alltså. Sabelöga (talk) 10:14, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- Sabelöga Nu syns ändringen till Relation udda sätt att fixa fel i OSM ;-)
- Det kan ju vara Wiki användaren Jopparn som gjorde [Osm:Browse.relation.title html/sv: Difference between revisions - translatewiki.net översättningen 2013] så vissa saker fångas inte fast det känns som alla borde reagera ;-) Salgo60 (talk) 08:34, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
- Sabelöga Första feedbacken hos OSM är att någon har översatt det "...helt på eget bevåg, med svag motivering?"
Tömming
[edit]Hej, jag är inte säkert varför du tömde objektet Q136772687. I fall du vill radera det så borde du begära dess radering. Tack! Samoasambia ✎ 14:09, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
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