Property talk:P1038

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relative
family member (qualify with "type of kinship", P1039; for direct family member please use specific property)
Representskinship (Q171318)
Data typeItem
Domainhuman (Q5), character that may be fictional (Q21070598), fictional character (Q95074), deity (Q178885), fictional human (Q15632617), video game character (Q1569167), animated character (Q15711870), film character (Q15773347) and family (Q8436)
ExampleMoulay Ali Cherif (Q3050987)Al Hassan Addakhil (Q4703997)
Napoleon (Q517)Camillo Borghese, 6th Prince of Sulmona (Q205779)
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Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P1038 (Q23909074)
See alsofather (P22), mother (P25), child (P40), sibling (P3373), stepparent (P3448)
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  • Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1038
  • Database reports/Constraint violations/P1038
  • Proposal discussionProposal discussion
    Current uses13,749
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    Value type “human (Q5), character that may be fictional (Q21070598), fictional character (Q95074), deity (Q178885), video game character (Q1569167): This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value human (Q5), character that may be fictional (Q21070598), fictional character (Q95074), deity (Q178885), video game character (Q1569167) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)
    Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1038#Value type Q5, Q21070598, Q95074, Q178885, Q1569167, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
    Item “sex or gender (P21): Items with this property should also have “sex or gender (P21)”. (Help)
    Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1038#Item P21, search, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
    Mandatory qualifier “type of kinship (P1039): this property should be used with the listed qualifier. (Help)
    Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1038#mandatory qualifier, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
    Qualifiers “type of kinship (P1039), sourcing circumstances (P1480), start time (P580), end time (P582), statement supported by (P3680): this property should be used only with the listed qualifiers. (Help)
    Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1038#Allowed qualifiers, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
    Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
    Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1038#scope, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
    Pictogram voting comment.svg Items with relative (P1038) and a more specific property which both link to the same person
    If the relative (P1038) statement describes the same information as another statement which uses a more specific property, the relative (P1038) statement should be removed (Help)
    Violations query: select ?item where { ?item wdt:P1038 ?relative filter exists { values ?prop { wdt:P22 wdt:P25 wdt:P40 wdt:P43 wdt:P44 wdt:P3373 } ?item ?prop ?relative } }
    List of this constraint violations: [[Wikidata:Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1038#Items with relative (P1038) and a more specific property which both link to the same person|Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1038#Items with relative (P1038) and a more specific property which both link to the same person]]
    Pictogram voting comment.svg Use more specific properties
    Use father (P22), mother (P25), spouse (P26), child (P40), etc. instead of relative (P1038) with type of kinship (P1039) (Help)
    Violations query: SELECT ?item # ?itemLabel ?property ?propertyLabel ?value ?valueLabel WHERE { { SELECT DISTINCT ?item ?property ?value { ?item wdt:P1038 [] . VALUES ?value { wd:Q7565 wd:Q7560 wd:Q7569 wd:Q177232 wd:Q308194 wd:Q1196129 wd:Q212878 wd:Q188830 wd:Q19822352 wd:Q1282201 wd:Q15384699 wd:Q223973 wd:Q41795928 wd:Q41795941 wd:Q31184 wd:Q10861465 wd:Q595094 } . ?item p:P1038/pq:P1039 ?value . BIND( wd:P1038 AS ?property ) . } LIMIT 1000 } . SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "en" } . }
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1038#Use more specific properties
    Pictogram voting comment.svg grandfather very old
    grandfather at 120 years old (Help)
    Violations query: SELECT ?item ?value ?bornItem ?bornValue ?diff { ?item p:P1038 ?statement. ?statement ps:P1038 ?value. ?statement pq:P1039 wd:Q9238344. ?item wdt:P569 ?bornItem. ?value wdt:P569 ?bornValue. BIND( (?bornItem - ?bornValue)/365 AS ?diff ). FILTER (?diff > 120) } ORDER BY DESC(?diff)
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1038#grandfather very old

    Proposal for simplification: consistency, gender-neutrality and age-neutrality[edit]

    Moved discussion to more appropriate location.

    libellé en français[edit]

    @Pyb: vient de me dire que la propriété a été renommé de « parenté » en « parentèle ». Je pense que c'est moins approprié pour plusieurs raisons. D'abord, parce que parentèle signifie « Ensemble des personnes qui ont un lien de parenté entre elles. » (cf. le Wiktionnaire), or la propriété n'a pas vocation à avoir l'ensemble de ces personnes mais seulements celles pour lesquelles il n'existe pas de propriété spécifique. Ensuite, parce que, toujours d'après le Wiktionnaire, ce terme est vieilli. @Zolo: qui a fait la modif. -Ash Crow (talk) 17:46, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

    Le mot juste serait sans doute "parent" mais il y a un risque évident de confusion avec père/mère. "Apparenté à" parait également recevable mais trop ambigu. "Parenté" désigne normalement non pas un individu, mais la relation entre deux individus. Il conviendrait beaucoup plus à type of kinship (P1039), dont il est d'ailleurs un alias, qu'à relative (P1038), de même que "kinship" est un alias de P1039 et pas de P1038. "Parentèle" n'est pas top, mais c'est encore ce que je vois de moins mauvais. --Zolo (talk) 09:38, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

    Symmetric ?[edit]

    Not sure if this needs to be symmetric, e.g. it might be worth indicating that QE2 is a relative, but I don't think the item for QE2 needs to list all of them. Thus I disabled the constraint.
    --- Jura 13:36, 30 April 2017 (UTC)