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Question about https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q128184611 and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q115124357

Hi Oravrattas,

I hope this talk finds you well. I have a question about https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q128184611 and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q115124357 and it seems to me that you are the original author of both data.

Currently, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q115124357 (Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Tech and the Digital Economy) is replaced by https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q128184611 (Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for AI and Digital Government). But I think it's not true based on the reference of wikipedia and the information from gov.uk.

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Tech and the Digital Economy should be replaced by Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Future Digital Economy and Online Safety, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_Under-Secretary_of_State_for_the_Future_Digital_Economy_and_Online_Safety and https://www.gov.uk/government/ministers/parliamentary-under-secretary-of-state-for-the-future-digital-economy-and-online-safety. And Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for AI and Digital Government should be a different one.

I'm not familiar with both wikidata and also the UK government, so I'm not sure if my understanding is correct and can make the data correct. So I start the conversation. Chhsiao90 (talk) 13:27, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Changing P31

It not a good idea to change instance of (P31) from Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410) to some other type of P31. Like in [1]. When the ip later changed the site linke for enwp Pi bot created a new object Reykjavik Constituency (Q114362305) with P31 Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410). The problem predates wikidata since the object was created based on site links in wikipedia. I will move the dewp to the new object. Do you have any tools to clean up the descriptions? Maundwiki (talk) 14:11, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Specical elections and which 'applies to jurisdiction'

Hello, thanks for all the work you're doing in wikidata.

I had a quick question on how you're setting up election data and the specificity of the 'applies to jurisdiction' used. I'm stumbling onto this from 2024 Wisconsin's 8th congressional district special election (Q126203586) which was a special election on the same day as the november 2024 general elections to fill a vacancy for nov/dec until the new congress was seated in January. In that item, the 'applies to jurisdiction actually could apply to the Wisconsin's 8th congressional district (Q8027096), and not just the entire state, but if the convention is that congressional elections should apply to the entire state and not specific elections, so be it. (It may be that's how it works out, on wikipedia the nov 2024 special election has its own page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Wisconsin%27s_8th_congressional_district_special_election but the general election for the 8th CD is part of page of all wisconsin congressional elections that day - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections_in_Wisconsin )

(Maybe?) ideally the 8 elections on the statewide page would have been 8 different entities in wikidata, but maybe the wikipedia-page -> new wikidata item flow makes that hard.

Thanks! Erik s paulson (talk) 23:04, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

@Erik s paulson: my rule of thumb is that applies to jurisdiction (P1001) for an election should be the same as the applies to jurisdiction (P1001) of the body to which the candidates are seeking office. All sorts of queries get much harder if that's not true. I usually tie it to the specific constituency/electoral district with a electoral district (P768) qualifier on office contested (P541) (e.g. 1901 Flinders state by-election (Q23022029)). I don't have particularly strong opinions on whether this is the right model, but keeping things as consistent as possible is hugely important to me, as this is data that should be queried many orders of magnitude more times than it is written.

And, yes, ideally each election would have a distinct Wikidata item. I often need to untangle messes caused by the Wikipedia pages in different languages each referring to a slightly different set of elections that happened at the same time (English, French, and Spanish Wikipedias each have slightly different conventions on how to handle simultaneous presidential and legislative elections, for example.) The most practical rule of thumb for now is that an election item should only have a single office contested (P541), but we're still quite a ways away from that, never mind my ideal where it would only have a single office contested (P541)/electoral district (P768) pair, and could then have good data on every candidate (P726) with votes received (P1111) plus totals for the full swathe of eligible voters (P1867), ballots cast (P1868), total valid votes (P1697), number of abstentions (P5043), number of spoilt votes (P5044), number of blank votes (P5045), etc --Oravrattas (talk) 02:17, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Swiss national council, "29 November 2023, terminate mandates of outgoing members"

Hi,

Please be aware that when you added "29 November 2023" as "terminate mandates of outgoing members", the date was wrong, it should have been 03/12/2023 per parliamentary website. I don't know where you got that date, did you make it up?

See this example diff / parl.ch but there is more than a dozen of it.

Could you revert back or correct your mistake?

Thanks, Omnilaika02 (talk) 21:04, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Oravrattas, any update ? Omnilaika02 (talk) 06:22, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Oravrattas, how do you plan to correct your mistake ? Omnilaika02 (talk) 09:32, 20 July 2025 (UTC)

Wikimedia Hackathon Northwestern Europe 2026

Hello! I noticed you're a bot operator, so I thought you might be interested in a hackathon we're organizing: the Wikimedia Hackathon Northwestern Europe 2026, on 13–14 March in Arnhem, Netherlands.

It's a two-day, technically oriented hackathon bringing together Wikimedians from the region. Whether you want to work on bot frameworks, tools, or other technical projects, this could be a great opportunity to collaborate with fellow developers. Registration closes mid-January or when full. Let me know if there are any questions. Hope to see you there! Daanvr (talk) 08:54, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

Sas Zoltán (Q111841107)

Thank you, Tony, for having rectified my premature burial of him. How did you recognise this mistake from Tallinn? Vlk (talk) 12:47, 4 February 2026 (UTC)