Property talk:P577

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publication date
date or point in time when a work was first published or released
Descriptiondate of publication of the creative work (book, film, and so on)
Representsdate of publication (Q1361758)
Data typePoint in time
Domain
According to this template: work (Q386724)
According to statements in the property:
work (Q386724), theory (Q17737), rule (Q1151067), group of works (Q17489659) and version, edition, or translation (Q3331189)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
ExampleThe Gold Rush (Q214723)
The standardisation of mineral group hierarchies: application to recent nomenclature proposals (Q19983493)
Polonaise-Fantaisie (Q3132823)
Robot and gadget jobsDeltaBot does the following jobs:
Tracking: sameno label (Q32100797)
Tracking: differencesno label (Q32100793)
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P577 (Q20990012)
Tracking: local yes, WD nono label (Q32070756)
See alsodate of first performance (P1191)
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  • Items with no other statements
  • Items with novalue claims
  • Items with unknown value claims
  • Usage history
  • Future dates
  • Dates in Gregorian calendar before 1582
  • Dates before year 1 (Help:Dates#Years BC)
  • Database reports/Constraint violations/P577
  • Proposal discussionProperty proposal/Archive/8#P577
    Current uses23,692,033
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    Type “work (Q386724), theory (Q17737), rule (Q1151067), group of works (Q17489659), version, edition, or translation (Q3331189): element must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “work (Q386724), theory (Q17737), rule (Q1151067), group of works (Q17489659), version, edition, or translation (Q3331189)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)
    Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P577#Type Q386724, Q17737, Q1151067, Q17489659, Q3331189, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
    Qualifiers “place of publication (P291), platform (P400), distribution (P437), sourcing circumstances (P1480), refine date (P4241), criterion used (P1013), title (P1476), language of work or name (P407), start time (P580), end time (P582), of (P642), online service (P2361), earliest date (P1319), latest date (P1326), exception to constraint (P2303): this property should be used only with the listed qualifiers. (Help)
    Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P577#Allowed qualifiers, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
    Conflicts with “instance of (P31): filmography (Q1371849), Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410), Wikimedia category (Q4167836), Wikimedia project page (Q14204246), Wikimedia template (Q11266439), fictional universe (Q559618): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
    Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P577#Conflicts with P31, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
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    Sheet music[edit]

    I think this property should be used also for a date of publication of sheet music. --Pabouk (talk) 19:43, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

    I just proposed a more general property, applicable for more types of work than just books: Wikidata:Property_proposal/Creative_work#completed. But sheet music might considered as a book, I don't know. Anyway, my proposal would help for paintings/sculptures/etc. Nicolas1981 (talk) 09:16, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

    Software[edit]

    Can this be used for the (first?) release date of software? --Nemo 07:24, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

    As "software" is "subclass of" creative work, I would say so :) --Bthfan (talk) 13:04, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
    @Nemo bis, Bthfan: Please join the discussion about the use of P577 on software here --★ → Airon 90 10:36, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

    film release date[edit]

    Is there a possibility to add another release date for a film (example: first release on free tv; first release in another country, etc. -- 217.224.217.120 17:42, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

    Have a look at Lucy (Q15624215). --- Jura 18:13, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

    Multiple Publication Dates (sub-works, volumes, etc)[edit]

    What should one do when there are multiple publication dates for a work which represents multiple volumes or sub-sections? As concrete examples, consider the serialization of Great Expectations (Q219552) (from enwiki: "Serialized 1860-1; book form 1861", which I think would be represented as two Statements in wikidata, one for the complete book and the other for the serialization over a time period), or the ongoing pulication of The Art of Computer Programming (Q82438) (perhaps each volume should be a distinct Item?), or Kunstformen der Natur (Q1423459) (from enwiki: "Originally published in sets of ten between 1899 and 1904 and collectively in two volumes in 1904").

    I think there are many cases of multiple publication where there can be multiple entries with qualification (eg, by "place of publication", or by edition), but sometimes that doesn't make sense. Perhaps the right thing to do is just take the first or last ("complete") date, but this is not complete. One option might be "start time" and "end time" qualifiers? Blnewbold (talk) 22:58, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

    a lot of books (in 2 or more volumes) have been published through a period of time, like "1866-1868"... currently, I add both, and qualify one with start time (Q24575110) and the other with end time (Q24575125). Not sure it's the best way... any thoughts @Billinghurst, VIGNERON: ? --Hsarrazin (talk) 10:28, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
    I would start with a comment about whether we are talking about an version, edition, or translation (Q3331189) that is published over a span of time, or we are talking about a "work" that as a conceptual idea is published as of a date. Personally I feel that you would maybe need an instance of "serialised edition" (we may need to create the item) where I would then have specific and multiple publication dates, but that is my uneducated, unfinessed approach. If a work is volumes as in 63 vol. of biographies, I could see it argued that as each volume could have a separate (later) publication date, that the "parent work" could have a start and end date.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:09, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
    I've used start time (P580) and end time (P582), e.g. for the version, edition, or translation (Q3331189) Dizionario mitologico, 1755-1758 Italian edition (Q54087754) as documented at Help:Dates#Qualifiers. I've added them to the allowed qualifiers constraint (Q21510851) now. --Marsupium (talk) 11:29, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

    Add qualifiers "beginning" and "end"[edit]

    Hi, I think we need to add qualifiers to this property: to specify, in case of a revue or journal, the beginning and the end of the publication. Regards, Yann (talk) 14:44, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

    I think we have inception (P571)/start time (P580) and dissolved, abolished or demolished (P576)/end time (P582) instead. Paucabot (talk) 10:00, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
    Moreover, sometimes I need such qualifiers for inception (P571), because creation can be some long process. --Infovarius (talk) 17:58, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
    I've added the qualifiers start time (P580) and end time (P582) to the allowed qualifiers constraint (Q21510851) now as they are needed for multi-volumed works (and editions), cf. the section #Multiple Publication Dates (sub-works, volumes, etc) above. An example is Dizionario mitologico, 1755-1758 Italian edition (Q54087754). --Marsupium (talk) 11:31, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

    English description: Release date vs. publication date[edit]

    @Sheldon.andre: I am going to revert the change from publication date to release date, since "release date" does not fit with current usage of the property in the context of scholarly publications, nor with the descriptions in other languages. I like the idea of calling this "release date", though, so I'm hereby inviting further opinions. Mattsenate (talk) 13:11, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
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    Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 02:06, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
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    Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:21, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
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    author  TomT0m / talk page
    guillom (talk) 21:57, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
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    Bodhisattwa (talk) 16:08, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
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    Shani Evenstein (talk) 21:29, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
    Skim (talk) 07:17, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
    Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Source MetaData --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 10:55, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

    Thanks. sheldon_andre (talk) 13:50, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

    added qualifier[edit]

    I have added sourcing circumstances (P1480) as an acceptable qualifier as there are works where there is no exact date of publication on the work, though its date is surmised through history and provenance.  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:06, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

    thanks billinghurst, sourcing circumstances (P1480) should be an acceptable qualifier on all date type properties, since for old dates, it is never possible to get a certain date... :) --Hsarrazin (talk) 10:23, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

    subproperty of begin date ?[edit]

    Seems incorrect. U’ll remove. Please cry if that breaks something such that we can find a solution. author  TomT0m / talk page 15:11, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

    "Published in" as a qualifier[edit]

    I added "published in" (P1433) as an property to the "allowed qualifiers constraint" (Q21510851) of "publication date" (P577), and it was reverted by Succu. I think that "published in" (P577) is a useful qualifier, just like "place of publication" (P291), which has been an allowed qualifier already. Succu, could you please explain your reverting? Thank you.--Neo-Jay (talk) 07:08, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

    @Succu: I think that I understand why you reverted my edit. "Publication date" (P577) is the time when a work was first published or released. We do not need to differentiate a work's different first publication dates when it was "published in" (P1433) different larger works such as newspapers, books, or journals. Now I agree with you that P1433 should not be added as an allowed qualifier. Thank you. --Neo-Jay (talk) 07:31, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

    Add version type (P548) to the allowed qualifiers[edit]

    It would allow to indicate the first beta release and the first stable release--Malore (talk) 22:17, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

    Add stated as (P1932) to the allowed constraints[edit]

    Dates of publication may be expressed in Roman numerals or other systems, so stated as (P1932) should be added to the allowed constraints. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:37, 19 July 2018 (UTC)