User talk:Billinghurst

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UN Doc[edit]

Hi, I was wondering if this is appropriate for WikiSource. Thanks MechQuester (talk) 15:43, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

@MechQuester: s:Wikisource:What Wikisource includes ... it is freely licensed and peer-reviewed so would fit. You can upload from toollabs:url2commons though please use c:Template:Book rather than information template.  — billinghurst sDrewth 00:49, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. MechQuester (talk) 04:22, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Item to be delete[edit]

In RFD there are one or more item proposed for the deletion created by you. If you do not agree you can participate in the debate --ValterVB (talk) 23:08, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Category:Cantharidus and Category:Micrelenchus[edit]

You have moved en:Category:Cantharidusi from Q16795885 to Q14977825 but Q14977825 is "Category:Micrelenchus". It was an error or Micrelenchus and Cantharidusi are the same thing? --ValterVB (talk) 18:15, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

@ValterVB: I was aligning the enWP category and the Commons category, the Commons looks to be aligned somewhat with names and they belong under one name or the other. No expert knowledge.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:49, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Merge items[edit]

Hi Billinghurst!. Items Category:Capitals (Q5743744) and Category:National capitals (Q7214555) need to be merged. They are the same items about capitals category. I am facing some conflicts while merging. Need your help! --Aswn (talk) 20:21, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

@Aswn:, not done. They are separate categories on pages and different items. Thus cannot be merged. MechQuester (talk) 21:44, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

@Aswn: Agree with MechQuester. If you look at the Commons Cat you will see that it could be considered the parent to "National capitals".  — billinghurst sDrewth 22:11, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

family name[edit]

Hello! You are creating many family names, which is great, but can you add native label (P1705) systematically? Even with a "mul" value as language. It would be so much easier to complete them afterwards. Thank you very much! --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 13:38, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

@Harmonia Amanda: Not sure that it is great <grumble mumble> there has to be better way <fiddly faffing around!!>. Can't I just run a tool through to populate them at a point of time? It is fiddly enough adding what I have been adding.  — billinghurst sDrewth 13:45, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
Well it's the system chosen by the project years ago: a string, an item. So we can differentiate between similar names, names in different writing systems, etc. I don't care if you run another tool right after creating the items instead of directly creating them cleanly, that's your choice, but it should be done hours after at most, and not days. Thank you --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 13:53, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
These are Wikisource-centric entries, and we are a looooooong way off using this data (mind you we are 2400 entries closer). @Multichill: Might you be able to design a pywikibot job to do this task? I can set up Wikisource-bot to push the addition task at the end of a session of creations. Otherwise I will look at the existing tools to see which will be able to best do that even more drudge work.  — billinghurst sDrewth 14:03, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
@Harmonia Amanda: The monotonous and repetitive task of pasting the name entered, and then to replicate it into a specific "native label" with mul seems pretty pointless, and maybe I don't sufficiently understand the point and use of the label itself. I would have thought that the native label would be taken as replicating the descriptor if left empty, or where left empty that we would have a bot going through and doing that stuff, not utilising people time. My purpose for entering family names is to give my langauge Wikisource the ability to run queries and write reports utilising the given/family names, and the more that I have to replicate data added is time not spent populating missing (useful?) data.  — billinghurst sDrewth 04:12, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
@billinghurst: well, P1705 is the important statement. We can add labels based on this one, and we do. But we can't do the reverse, because we don't know when we have a label if it's the original name or a transliteration of the original name: Yamamoto (Q231555) isn't Yamamoto (Q24090378) isn't Yamamoto (Q26229828) isn't Yamamoto (Q26000288). I never asked that you do it manually! You can use CSV2QS (which would mean duplicating a column in a .csv, not exactly time consuming) then QuickStatements. I seriously hope you are not creating family names manually but using QuickStatements or another script right now (in which case, doing it properly isn't difficult). --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 10:55, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I am doing manually, as I am populating surnames for authors (and creating where needed), and that is the only way to do it as one has to search for the names existence. If the top label is least important then we need a means to start with a native label and populate the other way, especially as this is the only ready means to find items.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:07, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
Meaning that it would be great when creating an item to be able to coincidentally set the label field AND the native label with the creation process, not sequential actions.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:12, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
Ok, no, don't do it manually. Either you can start a .csv, adding lines to it as you discover missing names and then create it as a batch when you have enough; or you can go to the French IRC chan (#wikidata-fr on Freenode) to use User:DæghrefnBot script. It's not surprising you are weary of creating missing names if you do it by hand! You should maybe talk to @Hsarrazin:, she did similar work to yours for the French Wikisource. --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 06:59, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
Please tell me you at least activated the gadget labelLister in your preferences and added Auto descriptions in your common.js. Because if not, I can't even understand how tiring it must be. We have tools to help us, absolutely no need to do work that can be automatized. --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 07:50, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
I can confirm that the use of User:DæghrefnBot script through the #wikidata-fr is very quick, efficient, and all you have to do afterwards is go to the item and add the native label (P1705), which is the only way, for users of other writings to distinguish between transcriptions and languages... :)
the "Konstantin" case would be its name on the Name project ;D Hsarrazin (talk) 16:11, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

contributed to published work (P3919)[edit]

Thanks for getting this property created. It was on my mental list of things to do. Charles Matthews (talk) 08:43, 10 May 2017 (UTC)