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Previous discussion was archived at User talk:TiagoLubiana/Structured Discussions Archive 1 on 2020-06-15.




Translation request[edit]

Hello.

Can you translate and upload en:Science and technology in Azerbaijan, en:Baku State University, en:National Academy of Sciences of Azerbaijan and en:National Library of Azerbaijan in Portuguese Wikipedia?

Yours sincerely, Matricatria (talk) 20:12, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Community Insights Survey[edit]

RMaung (WMF) 16:25, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reminder: Community Insights Survey[edit]

RMaung (WMF) 19:51, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

COVID-19[edit]

I've started Wikidata:WikiProject_COVID-19 based on your message. Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 00:56, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Jodi.a.schneider: Great initiative! I was talking with User:Daniel Mietchen and he suggested that a task force may be better suited, based on his previous experiences. He suggested to maybe create it as a subpart of Wikidata:WikiProject_Medicine . TiagoLubiana (talk) 01:02, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bom dia, obrigado por ter actualizado 2020 COVID-19 pandemic in Portugal (Q86948603), no entanto, apesar das suas fontes serem de uma entidade credível, não estão de acordo com a realidade. Eu vou continuar a actualizar com os dados fornecidos pela Direcção Geral de Saúde. Joao4669 (talk) 13:14, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oi @Joao4669:. Obrigado por comentar. Sim, os dados da WHO são desatualizados, mas alguns items estavam ainda mais desatualizados. Foi uma edição em massa para todos os países. Muito bom que alguém esteja cuidando da página de Portugal. Se quiser contribuir mais para o projeto em geral, também, fica o convite para se juntar ao Wikidata:WikiProject_COVID-19.
Então vou marcar as edições em causa com "deprecated rank". Já agora, o ping a outros utilizadores só funciona se na mesma essa edição for assinada. Joao4669 (talk) 16:42, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Joao4669: Ah, obrigado. Preferia que marcasse as suas como preferred, e não as da OMS como deprecated. Não se dizer se a informação da OMS é "errada". Mas ambos fazem sentido. TiagoLubiana (talk) 17:35, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Joao4669: João, você prefere que eu exclua Portugal das próximas atualizações em massa com os dados da OMS? TiagoLubiana (talk) 03:04, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sim Tiago, de facto prefiro essa opção, na prática os valores são os mesmos mas com datas diferentes e não é possível alterar o rank somente da data. Muito obrigado pela sua disponibilidade. Boas edições, Joao4669 (talk) 06:45, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I removed some of your data points for infected people on the page for the Netherlands. The source you use has data which is one day old. Please see the RIVM sources I used, which are the official counts, but a day earlier. --Egon Willighagen (talk) 14:35, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Egon Willighagen: Awesome that you are watching that page closely. They were the official counts by WHO, but I get that WHO is usually delayed regarding the counts. I believe both sources can coexist. It would be even interesting for later studying the gap between local and global information sources. Maybe marking the RIVM statements as a preferred source would be a good option, so it is clear that it should be the one used by external queries and so. But I mean, you can delete also, your call. TiagoLubiana (talk) 14:59, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Egon Willighagen: Would you prefer that I leave the Netherlands out of my next WHO-based case count batch edits? TiagoLubiana (talk) 03:04, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@TiagoLubiana: Yeah, let's stick to RIVM. I can keep track of that. The gap analysis can be done anyway. PS, if you have ideas for https://egonw.github.io/SARS-CoV-2-Queries/, let me know :) It's work in progress, along with my day job, but getting more populated every day. --Egon Willighagen (talk) 07:06, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Messy edits to Q84081576[edit]

Hi, I noticed you made some messy edits to this Qid. Could you clean it up so that every value has only 1 point in time and add refine date and the timezone for the source you are using (WHO)? See here for an example of how I would prefer it to look for each value: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q86458103#P1603 Thanks in advance!--So9q (talk) 09:00, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@So9q: Thank you for your comment and for watching closely the Sweden page. I added the edits automatically using the WHO reports. If a value is repeated, the report for that day repeats the number. It is automatic, and I cannot change that. It is accurate, though. Well, if you want, I can just stop updating the Sweden page according to WHO numbers, no problems. And about the formatting, there is still no standard formatting for reporting outbreak case number. Your input would be super welcome in Wikidata:WikiProject_COVID-19, especially in the Wikidata:WikiProject_COVID-19/Data_models/Outbreaks section! Thanks! TiagoLubiana (talk) 14:01, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the invitation, could you please clean it up? It is unfortunate that quickstatements do make it possible to create a new value-statement and defaults to adding to an existing. Please check the result of your edits and ensure they are correct. Improving this flaw in quickstaments should IMO be prioritized. Can you please file a bug report?--So9q (talk) 15:16, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@So9q: I beg your pardon, but it is not a mess, it is a valid representation of data from a reliable source. The results are correct, even though it might look weird. Please state clearly why it is a problem, and where is the official standard that should be followed. Prove it is a "mess" and sure, I will correct it. But please, refrain from using such an aggressive vocabulary, this is a collaborative environment. Thanks. TiagoLubiana (talk) 15:24, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry that it came across that way. I still think this is a mess because you mix references and dates and that makes it hard e.g. via queries to assert what date what source reported something. E.g. maybe someone would like to calculate how long time WHO lacks behind. For that we need more precision than your approach enables. I would prefer to have multiple e.g. 3 death values if the date or time differs between the sources. That way we make clear who said what when. You did not answer my question about filing a bug, should I take that as a no?--So9q (talk) 19:08, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@So9q: Uuh, I get now what you mean. It was not a quickstatements bug, it was just how I was using (so my fault). Do you think that adding the qualifier to the reference (and not the statemente) would make it better? I don't think we currently can add a reference to a qualifier.Thanks for the comments TiagoLubiana (talk) 20:05, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@So9q: By strict standards, point in time (P585) Shouldn't even be used in that situation, as it is to be used for "Anything that was confined to a specific time, but not a range of time" (Property_talk:P585). So, for multiple values in official reports, how can I solve that? TiagoLubiana (talk) 15:29, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree. The sources I have used all have point in time statements WHO inclusive (00:00 cet )--So9q (talk) 19:08, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@So9q: That is a nice suggestion, thanks. I agree, WHO has a point in time info, and that can be added. It has not been added by default in items such as COVID-19 pandemic in the United States (Q83873577) before. I will make sure I add it to my next edits. If possible, can you raise this kind of concern on the Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_COVID-19 so other people can also improve their editing? Thanks TiagoLubiana (talk) 19:12, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Done :)--So9q (talk) 20:36, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We sent you an e-mail[edit]

Hello TiagoLubiana,

Really sorry for the inconvenience. This is a gentle note to request that you check your email. We sent you a message titled "The Community Insights survey is coming!". If you have questions, email surveys@wikimedia.org.

You can see my explanation here.

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:46, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This makes me chuckle -- was it an email just notifying you there would be a future email? Sj (talk) 17:21, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Help expanding articles on knowledge abstractions[edit]

A few core WP articles on topics related to wikidata could use attention -- like knowledge graph. I'd appreciate your thoughts / references, including in langs other than English (there are few translations!).

Warmly, Sj (talk) 17:21, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Nice, I will translate that one to Portuguese and take a look at similar ones. TiagoLubiana (talk) 15:14, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

derived from organism type[edit]

We had a longer discussion at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Natural_science#derived_from_organism_type . You mentioned that it's important to have clarity about cell line being derived once. A way to create that clarity would be with a description. Are you up to writing one? Then we could set the property to ready. ChristianKl❫ 11:59, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Destructive edit[edit]

Hi. I'd like to remind you that your bot keeps doing destructive edits on the COVID-19 pandemic in Indonesia's wikidata page which affects its wikipedia's article. Please do something to fix this because we can't keep reverting it. Thanks. HiChrisBoyleHere (talk) 02:57, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hello, @HiChrisBoyleHere:. No problems, I'll remove Indonesia from the automatic updates, thanks for letting me know. I imagine you keep it with only one result so you can pull with a Lua template. I'd like to point out to this bot discussion and ask you to note there your issue. Can you point to me which user/users are responsible for maintaining the Indonesia item so I can list them on the CovidDatahubBot? TiagoLubiana (talk) 13:04, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Your bot makes also destructive edits on the on the COVID-19 pandemic in Luxembourg's wikidata page (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q87250860). Please remove Luxembourg from automatic updates. I'm updating the wikidata page of Luxembourg. thanks --Sultan Edijingo (talk) 19:58, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

CovidDatahubBot request[edit]

Hi. I am manually updating COVID-19 pandemic in Colombia (Q87483673). Please do not edit it with User:CovidDatahubBot. Thanks! --Julián L. Páez (talk) 05:19, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Some suggestions for the COVID-19 bot[edit]

I've noticed that your bot is making updates on COVID-19 pandemic items (I myself am monitoring COVID-19 pandemic in Singapore (Q83873387)), but only on the total number of cases and deaths. Does the dataset you're pulling the info from also contain the number of recoveries and hospitalizations? Would be handy to automatically fill those out too.

Also another suggestion: can your bot maybe set the latest statement for each of those statistics as the highest priority (with the older statements as normal)? I don't know if other people manually updating the pandemic items do this (other contributors are free to chime in), but I've stuck to a convention of setting the latest stats statements as "preferred", so that other apps that pull info from WD (e.g. Entity Explosion) could show just those latest stats rather than a barrage of numbers.

--Btcprox (talk) 05:32, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Btcprox: Thank you for the message! The dataset unfortunately does not include recoveries and hospitalizations. The second suggestion is really good. I want to do that, eventually, but I am letting the bot get "noticed" by the community before moving forward to tweaking ranks. Whenever we reach a point that the bot is not competing with human editors, then sure, it would be great! If you want the bot to stop updating Singapore, just let me know. If you want to share your thoughts at the bot discussion page, you are very welcome. TiagoLubiana (talk) 16:33, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • (By the way, I have great memories of Singapore, specially the kites at the marina and the Jurong Bird Park. Beautiful country.) TiagoLubiana (talk) 16:33, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

CovidDatahubBot[edit]

Hi!
Your bot edits element COVID-19 pandemic in Poland (Q87250695). Could it change last information about "number of deaths" and "number of cases" to preferred too, because Polish Wikinews uses this element? Kulawik.pl (talk) 14:05, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hello, @Kulawik.pl:, good to know that polish Wikinews uses that! I am working on the ranks, thank you for the message! Best, TiagoLubiana (talk) 12:26, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

CovidDatahubBot vaccinations[edit]

Is it possible to have the bot track COVID-19 vaccinations now that number of vaccinations (P9107) exists? Examples of its usage are on its property page. AntisocialRyan (talk) 17:15, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • : @AntisocialRyan: That would be great, Ryan. The source we are using currently misses that information. If you (or someoneelse) can find a reliable source for vaccination counts, just post it on the bot discussion page and I'll add it gladly. Best, TiagoLubiana (talk) 12:46, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

CovidDatahubBot suddenly stopped updating[edit]

Hey there, seems like your bot has stopped updating the COVID-19 stats, according to Special:Contributions/CovidDatahubBot. Something weird going on? --Btcprox (talk) 09:31, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Call for participation in the interview study with Wikidata editors[edit]

Dear TiagoLubiana,

I hope you are doing good,

I am Kholoud, a researcher at King’s College London, and I work on a project as part of my PhD research that develops a personalized recommendation system to suggest Wikidata items for the editors based on their interests and preferences. I am collaborating on this project with Elena Simperl and Miaojing Shi.

I would love to talk with you to know about your current ways to choose the items you work on in Wikidata and understand the factors that might influence such a decision. Your cooperation will give us valuable insights into building a recommender system that can help improve your editing experience.

Participation is completely voluntary. You have the option to withdraw at any time. Your data will be processed under the terms of UK data protection law (including the UK General Data Protection Regulation (UK GDPR) and the Data Protection Act 2018). The information and data that you provide will remain confidential; it will only be stored on the password-protected computer of the researchers. We will use the results anonymized to provide insights into the practices of the editors in item selection processes for editing and publish the results of the study to a research venue. If you decide to take part, we will ask you to sign a consent form, and you will be given a copy of this consent form to keep.

If you’re interested in participating and have 15-20 minutes to chat (I promise to keep the time!), please either contact me at kholoudsaa@gmail.com or use this form https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdmmFHaiB20nK14wrQJgfrA18PtmdagyeRib3xGtvzkdn3Lgw/viewform?usp=sf_link with your choice of the times that work for you.

I’ll follow up with you to figure out what method is the best way for us to connect.

Please contact me using the email mentioned above if you have any questions or require more information about this project.

Thank you for considering taking part in this research.

Regards

Kholoud

Automated updates[edit]

Hi. Will it still be possible to use Wikidata for several pages related to COVID-19, such as this template and related Wikipedia articles? I am aware that this bot updates some relevant Wikidata pages, but it does so more than one day after new figures are released. However, using the bot is now more preferable because it reduces the need for editors to open a lot of sources several times every day. Also, it has already become more challenging to edit the template because less editors are willing to spend time to edit it. LSGH (talk) 14:00, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • @LSGH: Hi, LSGH, the bot is delayed, true. I plan on keep it running for the foreseeable future, but I'm mega overloaded and will be not able to extend any further. In any case, the code for the bot is all at https://github.com/lubianat/covidbot and I'd gladly pass the bot account on if you know anyone willing to manage it better. TiagoLubiana (talk) 21:21, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sadly, I do not know anyone who could do that. I do not want to spend too much time updating the template. Will it be okay if I edit some of those Wikidata pages manually? I am looking at either India or Indonesia as an example. LSGH (talk) 04:16, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@LSGH: Sure, no problems. If you want the bot to stop editing some country too just let me know. TiagoLubiana (talk) 11:28, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I do not know yet which countries I will be updating manually, but the number should not be too large. I hope that more Wikidata fetch codes can be used so that editors can have more time to do other things. LSGH (talk) 12:53, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Can I tell you through email which countries I wish to update manually? LSGH (talk) 09:39, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@LSGH: Sure, but if you can tell it on wiki (here or on the bot page) it would be better. TiagoLubiana (talk) 13:20, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Rank updates on COVID-19 stats for Poland[edit]

Hello! Expanding on #CovidDatahubBot, could you please include a condition into your scripts to prevent setting the rank to normal whenever there is no new update, either on the number of cases (P1603) or the number of deaths (P1120)? For instance, see Special:Diff/1490242242. Since no update followed this edit, the P1120 statement was left with no value set as preferred, hence code such as {{#statements:P1120|from=Q87250695}} is now returning multiple values instead of a single one. Kind regards, Peter Bowman (talk) 10:45, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Peter Bowman: Nice catch and sorry for the bug! I've added a ticket on github (https://github.com/lubianat/covidbot/issues/1) and will patch it ASAP TiagoLubiana (talk) 22:31, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Concurso "Latinoamérica en Wikidata"[edit]

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Queríamos agradecerte por participar del concurso "Latinoamérica en Wikidata". Entre todos los aportes mejoraron más de 28 mil ítems en Wikidata sobre Latinoamérica.
Por otro lado, queríamos extenderte la invitación a participar de la WikidataCon que se llevará adelante los días 29, 30 y 31 de octubre. Para inscribirte puedes hacerlo en este link.
Saludos,
Constanza Verón (WMAR) (talk) 15:00, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Easheta Shah (Q108555485)[edit]

Hi, could you please add more details to Easheta Shah (Q108555485)? In its current state I see no purpose of this item. -- H005 (talk) 08:18, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Call for participation in a task-based online experiment[edit]

Dear Tiago Lubiana,

I hope you are doing good,

I am Kholoud, a researcher at King's College London, and I work on a project as part of my PhD research, in which I have developed a personalised recommender system that suggests Wikidata items for the editors based on their past edits. I am collaborating on this project with Elena Simperl and Miaojing Shi.

I am inviting you to a task-based study that will ask you to provide your judgments about the relevance of the items suggested by our system based on your previous edits. Participation is completely voluntary, and your cooperation will enable us to evaluate the accuracy of the recommender system in suggesting relevant items to you. We will analyse the results anonymised, and they will be published to a research venue.

The study will start in late January 2022 or early February 2022, and it should take no more than 30 minutes.

If you agree to participate in this study, please either contact me at kholoud.alghamdi@kcl.ac.uk or use this form https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSees9WzFXR0Vl3mHLkZCaByeFHRrBy51kBca53euq9nt3XWog/viewform?usp=sf_link I will contact you with the link to start the study.

For more information about the study, please read this post: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Kholoudsaa In case you have further questions or require more information, don't hesitate to contact me through my mentioned email.

Thank you for considering taking part in this research.

Regards

Kholoudsaa (talk) 19:03, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Metasubclass[edit]

To elaborate the cancellation message, take the example of chemical elements.

C14 is an isotope of Carbon. As a C14 atom is a C atom we have
⟨ C14 ⟩ subclass of (P279) View with SQID ⟨ C ⟩
.
Carbon is an instance of chemical element, C14 is an instance of isotope.
Because this scheme is true for any isotope is a subclass of a chemical element, we have
⟨ isotope ⟩ meta-subclass of search ⟨ chemical element ⟩
.
Now if « meta subclass of » was a subproperty of « subclass of » this would mean that we can replace in all cases « metasubclass of » by « subclass of » and the claim remain true.
We have « 
⟨ C14 ⟩ instance of (P31) View with SQID ⟨ isotope ⟩
. So if we replace metasubclass by subclass in
⟨ isotope ⟩ metasubclass of (P2445) View with SQID ⟨ element ⟩
we would get
⟨ isotope ⟩ subclass of (P279) View with SQID ⟨ element ⟩
. But, because an instance of a subclass is an instance of the superclass … we would have
⟨ C14 ⟩ instance of (P31) View with SQID ⟨ element ⟩
… but C14 is an isotope an not an element. author  TomT0m / talk page 19:17, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hungary[edit]

Hi, COVID-19 pandemic in Hungary (Q87119811) was manually edited in the past, but is no longer. It would be possible to set automatic updates using your bot? The country is already listed here. Thanks! --Jklamo (talk) 07:32, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Jklamo: Sure! I'll add this to the dev workflow. TiagoLubiana (talk) 10:14, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Mestre-sala[edit]

TiagoLubiana não sabia disso, eu imaginava que fosse igual ao carnaval, mais já até fiz modificação, colocando Grand Master of Ceremonies of France (Q822484) pra se poder qualificar a isso. sobre standard-bearer (Q2486919), ainda estudarei modificações, a fim de separar-lós. Boeco msg 22:42, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]