Wikidata:Property proposal/Burial date

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date of burial or cremation

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Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Person

Descriptiondate on which this person was buried or cremated
Representsburial (Q331055)
Data typePoint in time
Domainperson
ExampleBartholomeus Dolendo (Q4865218) -> 1626-05-27 : I let a precision: month to the death date, and was searching for the burial date property (that we know in https://rkd.nl/en/explore/artists/23546)
Planned useto specify a date that is not a death date (in case, for example, of not knowing the exact death date)
Robot and gadget jobsno
See alsostart time (P580), place of burial (P119)
Motivation

Hello,

In some cases, we don't know the exact death date, but we do know the burial date. I think that if we want to be accurate, we should specify it.

To my mind, there are two options:

Thank you, Daehan (talk) 14:05, 27 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion
I still would prefer a separate property because it is easier to access it from Lua than dealing with qualifiers. But I would prefer Yair rand solution to Jura's because I do not have to know where someone is buried to save the date of burial. For example this gives me date of burial but not a place and I can not add a reference to individual qualifiers. Now I am worried that there might be more creative solutions to save Burial date and we different people will do it differently. --Jarekt (talk) 20:17, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes! I was about to write this before I've read it! --Marsupium (talk) 16:36, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You can still save it with place of burial ("unknown"), but it's likely that your value isn't referenced as good as it should.
--- Jura 12:42, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
place of burial ("unknown") is strange for the case where I just do not know it. Also place and date of burial should not be in the same statement so we can add separate references. Sources often state date of burial instead of date of death, but use place of death instead of place of burial, for example this reference. --Jarekt (talk) 13:40, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Thierry Caro: The name that came out of the discussion was "date of burial or cremation" and not "burial date". Unfortunately, the software copies the page name and not the label name into the field. ChristianKl () 09:39, 1 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@ChristianKl: thanks do we have a model how to use it?
Today I use the following properties as qualifiers see example 6181340#P119
- Salgo60 (talk) 15:55, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Salgo60: We don't have a model that goes beyond the provided example. If you want to propose a model feel free to do that on the talk page of the property. You can also write property usage instructions. If someone disagrees with your proposal, they will say so. ChristianKl () 15:59, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]