Wikidata:Property proposal/Panoptikum podcast episode ID
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Panoptikum podcast episode ID
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control
Description | identifier of a podcast episode in the Panoptikum database |
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Represents | Panoptikum.social (Q64729537) |
Data type | External identifier |
Domain | podcast episode (Q61855877) |
Allowed values | [1-9]\d* |
Example 1 | From Tree to Shining Tree (Q65109665) → 20539 |
Example 2 | 803: Nudge, Nudge, Nobel (Q42585896) → 1369657 |
Example 3 | Radiolab - G: The Miseducation of Larry P (Q70747178) → 4446556 |
Source | https://panoptikum.io/episodes/ |
External links | Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt]. |
Formatter URL | https://panoptikum.io/episodes/$1 |
See also | Panoptikum podcast ID (P4818) |
Motivation
[edit]Panoptikum.social (Q64729537) is an open database of 50K+ podcast (Q24634210), and their podcast episode (Q61855877). Jean-Fred (talk) 12:13, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
Notified participants of WikiProject Podcasts
Discussion
[edit]- Support as proposer. Jean-Fred (talk) 12:13, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
- Comment Why not using full work available at URL (P953) instead? Nomen ad hoc (talk) 17:50, 3 November 2019 (UTC).
- Support David (talk) 14:33, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose - don't see a reason not to just use full work available at URL (P953). If there is a reason, please ping me and I'll reconsider. --DannyS712 (talk) 07:38, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
- Comment @DannyS712: Thanks for raising this (and apologies for the delay). That’s a fair question, and to be honest I’m not too sure how to best phrase my answer ; as in, we could also sort-of just use either described at URL (P973) or full work available at URL (P953) in place of many external-IDs.
In this particular case, my use-case would be to use this external-DB as todo list to create all episodes of a given podcast (99% Invisible (Q16001236) is high on my list :) and having an external ID would make it somewhat easier, to more easily use mix’n’match and ensure we have full-coverage (all such Panoptikum entries have a matched item) *and* non-duplicates (all podcast episodes of the show have a Panoptokum ID, without constraints violations). It is of course possible to do that without a dedicated ID, but the workflow would be a bit less smooth.
In general the podcast ecosystem is missing 'authoritative' identifiers − because they do not belong to one platform (although iTunes has been the de-facto reference for a while). The RSS feed URL should be it ; but feeds get moved from one hosting to another, have several alternative URLs… And episodes are worst: the 'authoritative' source should be the RSS feed contents (which contain all episodes of the show) ; however it is common that feeds are cut (only the last X episodes − for example, this feed is missing the first 5 episodes, while Panoptikum has them recorded ; this only has the last 10 episodes). That is why I think having IDs to clearly identify episodes, with the relevant constraints, would make sense.
Let me know if that sounds reasonable, and if not I’m always happy to change my mind :) Jean-Fred (talk) 19:12, 4 December 2019 (UTC)- Sure, then Support --DannyS712 (talk) 06:39, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Comment @DannyS712: Thanks for raising this (and apologies for the delay). That’s a fair question, and to be honest I’m not too sure how to best phrase my answer ; as in, we could also sort-of just use either described at URL (P973) or full work available at URL (P953) in place of many external-IDs.
- Support It's better as an external ID, because the external site has associated an ID with this work. --99of9 (talk) 23:23, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
@ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Nomen ad hoc, DannyS712, 99of9, Jean-Frédéric: Done: Panoptikum podcast episode ID (P7849). − Pintoch (talk) 11:48, 15 January 2020 (UTC)