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08:47, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

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P31 and P279[edit]

Hello, about this edit: there is difference between instance of (P31) and subclass of (P279). Please see Help:Basic membership properties. — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 22:19, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

@Ivan A. Krestinin: - Can you clarify? Just because there are "two" of something doesn't make it a subclass of something else. It's possible to have a series of items be no more than multiple instances of something and for it not to be significant enough to warrant a new class of satellite. All the Venera items need work, and not all should be new subclasses of spacecraft. -- Fuzheado (talk) 00:56, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

senior editor (Q26206833)[edit]

This occupation has little value since it doesn't link out to anything that explains what makes it so different from the occupation of editor. People should definitely not be given any occupation that doesn't have at least one Wikipedia article somewhere explaining what it is. In such cases, assign the occupations most closely resembling the job, and consider using "field of work" to express the field or "position held" to reflect seniority, as in "Editor-in-chief" of a magazine. The goal is to keep the occupation hierarchy as flat as possible for both query purposes and to maximize usability with external databases. Narrowing the occupation degrades "findability". Jane023 (talk) 08:24, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

@Jane023: - I agree with you in general on this. But there is a conundrum that this is a very common title in news production and journalism, which represents a higher status, almost like a "distinguished professor" or "chair professor" is in academia or a "senior advisor" in the political ranks. Neither of those do well in Wikidata either, as they are enhancements on the professor and advisor titles, and may not merit a standalone article. There is a big difference between editor and senior editor in journalism, so I'm a bit torn on this. Are there other areas where we can learn from regarding this kind of arrangement? -- Fuzheado (talk) 14:09, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
I get that, but maybe it would help to look at the ecclesiastical lists? Someone has cleaned a lot of those up. "Archbishop" is not an profession but you get there by becoming a theologian. Theoretically you become a senior editor when you change jobs or get a promotion so this would be "position held", which is not to be confused with the profession of journalism. Jane023 (talk) 14:13, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Returning Japanese[edit]

I am adding some missing IMDB links and ran into Returning Japanese, part 1 (Q32826346) and Returning Japanese, part 2 (Q32826348). According to IMDB it's one extra long episode. Maybe better to merge these two? Multichill (talk) 10:02, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Looks like the ordering and dates you used are not the same as IMDB. This query gives an overview of the episodes:
SELECT ?item ?itemLabel ?date ?previous ?previousLabel ?next ?nextLabel ?imdb WHERE {
  ?item wdt:P179 wd:Q1135966 .
  MINUS { ?item wdt:P31 wd:Q3464665 } .
  OPTIONAL { ?item wdt:P1191 ?date } .
  OPTIONAL { ?item wdt:P155 ?previous } .
  OPTIONAL { ?item wdt:P156 ?next } .
  OPTIONAL { ?item wdt:P345 ?imdb } .
    SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "en". }
} ORDER BY ?date LIMIT 1000
Try it!
Look for example at the start of season three. Where did you get the data from?
If the ordering is not the same as IMDB, my bot won't be able to add the missing IMDB links. Multichill (talk) 10:14, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Structured Commons focus group update, December 11, 2017[edit]

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gun edits[edit]

Hi, I notice you've made a number of edits to handgun models that make them subclasses of weapon (Q728) not instances of . I think they are models and should use instance of (P31). Pauljmackay (talk) 10:42, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

@Pauljmackay: - Hi, thanks for the note. Initially I thought so too. But the Wikidata custom is that "models" of a weapon should be subclasses, and only specific firearms (John F. Kennedy assassination rifle (Q2012291)) should be instances. The same goes for cars, planes, telecopes, cell phone models, etc. Part of the cognitive leap is that what we would call a "class" in the firearms world (or other domains) is not what we would call a "class" in Wikidata parlance. -- Fuzheado (talk) 11:05, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
That's really interesting and not something I've read before. Do you have any links/references to where that is documented in more detail? This page doesnt seem to cover the classification of products/models. Pauljmackay (talk) 11:19, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
Yes, here's the extended discussion on Project Chat back in May [1], when I held the position you have above about guns (see the discussion further down after spacecraft). I've come to the side of calling them subclasses rather than instances. I agree, however, that the current page on Basic Membership Properties needs work, as it doesn't address the phenomenon of product lines and models. Let me know what you think. -- Fuzheado (talk) 22:17, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
@Fuzheado: do you happen to know of any other discussions on Project Chat that cover this from different perspectives? The link to the chat about spacecraft and guns is useful but more examples would be great. I might post a new chat thread to try to clarify this. Pauljmackay (talk) 09:47, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Structured Commons - Design feedback request: Multilingual Captions[edit]

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Pinging you (and others) since you've done a lot of MnM matching on the AAT thesaurus, as to whether or not you think it would be useful to be able to record the "broader" field in thesauruses like this, allowing one to reference the thesaurus structure in WDQS queries. Property proposal at Wikidata:Property_proposal/broader_concept. Jheald (talk) 19:03, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

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First structured licensing conversation on Commons[edit]


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Multilingual captions testing is available[edit]


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Structured Data on Commons IRC Office Hour, Tuesday 26 June[edit]


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What properties does Commons need?[edit]


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Structured Data feedback - Depicts statements draft requirements[edit]


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Structured Data feedback - structured licensing and copyright[edit]

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Please, be more careful with merging. (-)-nicotine (Q28086552) and nicotine (Q12144) are about different concepts. Regards, Wostr (talk) 20:43, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

New discussion on Commons talk:Structured data[edit]

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