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Madurai division (Q6728834): no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)
Item not needed Aswn (talk) 18:35, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
- It's an instance of subdivision of India (Q24943410); Madurai (Q228405) doesn't mention that. They could be merged, or linked with coextensive with (P3403). Peter James (talk) 20:52, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
Not done [1] seems to suggest that Madurai is split between four taluks, two in one revenue division (this one) and two in another (which lacks an item at the moment. Mahir256 (talk) 23:28, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
Sotonera dam (Q62102058): dam in Spain: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)
Merged with Q23991424 --FAR (talk) 08:25, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Done Redirect created by User:Kostas20142, you can do it yourself next time. --DeltaBot (talk) 18:00, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Q85238098: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)
Not notable self promo spam FitIndia 18:42, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Vjatšeslav (Q31274785): male given name: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)
There exists Q19597898 Estopedist1 (talk) 18:16, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
On hold This item is linked from 2 others. --DeltaBot (talk) 18:20, 20 May 2019 (UTC)- Technically two different names, Q31274785 is a variant for the people who living in Estonia or Finland with the official Latin script, Q19597898 is for citizens of countries with the Cyrillic script as official. I'm not sure there's need on merging even if the names in fact direct equivalents of each other. --Wolverène (talk) 22:07, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
Notified participants of WikiProject Names: Vjatšeslav (Q31274785) should be kept, but it is in poor shape, right? I would appreciate some expert input here. —MisterSynergy (talk) 09:33, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- If Wolverène is right the claim ' the same as Q19597898 should be removed if not both items should be merged. Agree with MisterSynergy we better wait till experts from said countries speak in this discussion. Klaas `Z4␟` V: 09:51, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- I'll try to expain in one more way. Imagine. There's an Estonian called Vjatšeslav (in fact an ethnic Russian/Ukrainian/Belarusian/of Russia's indigenous minor ethnicity... who cares, he's still Estonian by nationality). And there's a Canadian with Russian background called Vyacheslav who successfully gained the Estonian nationality. For the governmental services of Estonia the first one is surely Vjatšeslav, and the second person is still Vyacheslav, his name wasn't changed, they have two different names pronouncing same. Same would be happened in Finland. Ask an Estonian or a Finn. I saw one Estonian user here, I'm a bit embarrassed to ping him as he may not be interested. --Wolverène (talk) 10:56, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- the items must not be merged : it is the practice of the Names project to create an item for each different written form of a name. Wolverène is right... it was created for Q47500796, who is Estonian, and whose name (in Estonian) is written Vjatšeslav, not Viacheslav or Вячеслав, even if at the time of his birth, Estonia was part of USSR...
- AND it is also the practice of the Names project to link similar names through said to be the same as (P460), to be able to find similar names with different scriptings, and other forms of the same name, and to prevent merging by people who do not know how the project works.
- @Harmonia Amanda: please correct me if I said something wrong about the project way :)
- and Thanks to Jon_Harald_Søby who quietly completed the item as I was answering here :) --Hsarrazin (talk) 13:04, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Yes thanks Hsarrazin, you've presented it in a good way I think. I was writing a reply here after completing the item, but got distracted and forgot to save. The rule is basically one spelling = one item. So the spelling with the Cyrillic letters must have a different item than the many variant spellings with Latin letters. They are all connected (in theory at least) with said to be the same as (P460) for the different spelling variants. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 13:52, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- I'll try to expain in one more way. Imagine. There's an Estonian called Vjatšeslav (in fact an ethnic Russian/Ukrainian/Belarusian/of Russia's indigenous minor ethnicity... who cares, he's still Estonian by nationality). And there's a Canadian with Russian background called Vyacheslav who successfully gained the Estonian nationality. For the governmental services of Estonia the first one is surely Vjatšeslav, and the second person is still Vyacheslav, his name wasn't changed, they have two different names pronouncing same. Same would be happened in Finland. Ask an Estonian or a Finn. I saw one Estonian user here, I'm a bit embarrassed to ping him as he may not be interested. --Wolverène (talk) 10:56, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Not done - items should be connected, but there seems to be consensus to retain items for separate spellings. -- Ajraddatz (talk) 20:31, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
maize (Q31797707): species of grass cultivated as a food crop: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)
"Poes d' Trouk" is "Zea mays", than to be linked with Q11575 Lucyin (talk) 21:11, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Lucyin, pls comment the appearance of wa:Dinrêye d' awousse, was it correctly linked with Q11575? is it a synonym of "poes d' Trouk" resp. permanently duplicated page?.. We can't merge Q31797707 into Q11575 as it's obviously impossible to keep two Walloon pages at the same time in one item. --Wolverène (talk) 14:05, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
- "dinrêye d' awousse" means "august cereal", right? then you'd better replace this page to a new item (unless it has some special meaning in the language). Regards, --Wolverène (talk) 14:09, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
- Q31797707 is a duplicate of Q11575; is "Dinrêye d' awousse" the same as cereal grain (Q12117) or something more specific? Also is rust (Q25634296) the same as rust (Q4273292) or only one of the items listed at fr:Rouille (maladie)#Liste des maladies appelées « rouilles » en français? Peter James (talk) 18:16, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
- On hold, I believe you, but both items have an article on the wawiki, so it should be fixed there. Once that's done, one can be made a redirect, removed from its item and the items can be merged. No need to delete anything, so we don't actually need to action this. - сyсn - (talk • contribs • logs) 14:22, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Not done - I've added another link from wawikt to the item nominated for deletion. If these pages are merged on wawiki then we can merge the items, but until then I don't see value to retain this request for another indeterminate number of months. -- Ajraddatz (talk) 20:34, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Quadient (Q70117211): provider of digital communications, shipping and mail solutions: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)
Is this entity notable? EugeneZelenko (talk) 19:57, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
- On hold This item is linked from 1 other. --DeltaBot (talk) 20:00, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
- Yes. Yes it is. Alexis Jazz please ping me if you reply 21:26, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
- Anyone other than the creator of the item have an opinion? Quakewoody (talk) 21:39, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Quakewoody: We could ask the French? w:fr:Neopost is theirs. @47dp, Eneljay, Alexfouch:? Btw, this is the reason Eugene is doing this. Well that, and probably this. - Alexis Jazz please ping me if you reply 21:44, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
- Anyone other than the creator of the item have an opinion? Quakewoody (talk) 21:39, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
- Is it a new entity or just a new name? Peter James (talk) 11:42, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Peter James: New name, new logo, new website, merge, change in organization. ("notamment en passant d'une structure de holding à une organisation intégrée et plus ciblée", Google translate: "moving from a holding structure to an integrated and more focused organization") "Quadient combines the capabilities of three Neopost sister companies, GMC Software, Human Inference and Satori Software into one technology portfolio of solutions designed to improve customer experience across print, digital and social channels." Alexis Jazz please ping me if you reply 15:58, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
Could you kindly provide some reliable reference URL's for statements, in order to make us free at all from any doubts about notability? --Wolverène (talk) 05:56, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Wolverène: w:fr:Neopost isn't enough? Eugene doesn't do any research. Never. He's not interested. He calls the notability of anything into question. He only started this deletion request to bring Commons drama over here. - Alexis Jazz please ping me if you reply 18:47, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
- Alexis Jazz: You're just causing more drama with your controversial comments. These sources state that "Neopost" changed its name to "Quadient". w:fr:Neopost says the same, but it hasn't been renamed, which I assume is because the company name change is in progress or is not official yet. If I am right, only one item should exist, merging Quadient (Q70117211) with Neopost (Q1977631). But if you say they're different entities, I would like you to demonstrate it. Esteban16 (talk) 22:45, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Esteban16: Do I understand correctly you want to delete it and then undelete it once the name change is official? Or if you are just asking for the difference (besides the obvious): Quadient includes d:Q20878537. (and some other stuff that doesn't have a Wikidata item) Neopost does not. - Alexis Jazz please ping me if you reply 22:53, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- Alexis Jazz: I want you to clarify whether they're different entities or not. You said above that it was a "new name, new logo, new website, merge, change in organization", and I didn't get that at all. If they're different, it is okay, but if they're the same, then merging should be done. Esteban16 (talk) 23:00, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- As they're different, can this be closed and kept? Alexis Jazz please ping me if you reply 12:00, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
- Alexis Jazz: I want you to clarify whether they're different entities or not. You said above that it was a "new name, new logo, new website, merge, change in organization", and I didn't get that at all. If they're different, it is okay, but if they're the same, then merging should be done. Esteban16 (talk) 23:00, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Esteban16: Do I understand correctly you want to delete it and then undelete it once the name change is official? Or if you are just asking for the difference (besides the obvious): Quadient includes d:Q20878537. (and some other stuff that doesn't have a Wikidata item) Neopost does not. - Alexis Jazz please ping me if you reply 22:53, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- Alexis Jazz: You're just causing more drama with your controversial comments. These sources state that "Neopost" changed its name to "Quadient". w:fr:Neopost says the same, but it hasn't been renamed, which I assume is because the company name change is in progress or is not official yet. If I am right, only one item should exist, merging Quadient (Q70117211) with Neopost (Q1977631). But if you say they're different entities, I would like you to demonstrate it. Esteban16 (talk) 22:45, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- merge Quadient (Q70117211) with Neopost (Q1977631). Quadient is not a new entity, it's a rebranding of Neopost (Q1977631). I can not find any source that Neopost has merged with another company. The mentioned GMC Software AG (Q20878537) was aquired by Neopost back in 2012. --Pasleim (talk) 18:53, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Not done - if nothing else, the two pages fit criterion #3 of WD:N. The former name is certainly a confirmable entity, and the second fills a structural need as the successor brand. Discussion over the course of months has failed to arrive at consensus for a specific course of action. -- Ajraddatz (talk) 20:38, 23 February 2020 (UTC)