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This page uses the Structured Discussions extension of MediaWiki (SD, formerly known as “Flow”). I think that we really need something like this instead of the classical discussion approach, but I am also aware of the fact that not everything works smoothly yet in SD.

If you struggle to use this discussion page perfectly, do not worry and just leave a messy or broken comment for me. You do not need to figure out how to write a perfectly formatted comment with lots of trial-and-error edits. I am hopefully going to figure out what is on, otherwise I am going to ask you. Thanks!

Btw. SD comments do not need to be signed, since the software manages all contributions and puts user names and timestamps above them. Experienced users might also like the wikitext mode of SD, to be actived in the lower right corner of the input field.

Previous discussion was archived at User talk:MisterSynergy/Archive 1 on 2015-11-09.

31.200.13.53 (talkcontribs)

Hello.

Can you merge the Wikidata page "Azerbaijani nationality law" (Q4832428) with the Wikidata page "Azerbaijani nationality law" (Q108649697)?

User:Scorpio835 (User talk:Scorpio835) has delibaretly removed all the wikilinks of the topic "Azerbaijani nationality law" (Q4832428), and which was overlooked and not restored, until I discovered this user's vandalism.

Yours sincerely, 31.200.13.53 19:03, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

someone else did this already

31.200.13.53 (talkcontribs)

Can you warn this user as an administrator not to do this again? --31.200.13.53 06:34, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

I don't think this is necessary

31.200.13.53 (talkcontribs)
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Zblace (talkcontribs)

Hi! Could you please undelete Q111802559 - I have data to fill in for it as well as media on Commons to link to it. Thank you!

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)
Reply to "please undelete Q111802559"

The deletion of the "genetically modified little mermaid"

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SauvonsLaPlanete (talkcontribs)

Hello, and thanks for your great contributions.

You deleted the following page:

Could you please tell me more about what was the issue please ? I read the policy but I could not deduce what was the exact problem.

Thank you in advance

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

The item needs to comply with the notability policy that is linked in the deletion reason.

Since you show interest in this item, I have restored it already. You can now add identifiers/references etc., in order to make it notable.

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Titanboo (talkcontribs)

Hello, I saw you deleted one of my empty item, and thank you for that. Can I also request to delete another one? Thank you in advance.

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Sure, which one?

Titanboo (talkcontribs)
MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

This is also gone.

Titanboo (talkcontribs)

Thanks a lot!

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Manchmal möcht ich den Hut drauf hauen

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Wurgl (talkcontribs)

In de:Benutzer:APPER/VIAF#VIAF_kann_ergänzt_werden gibt es so eine Liste von Kraut- und Rüben-VIAFs, also solche wo mehrere Personen vermischt sind. per Bot guck ich, ob die im REMARK-Feld bei deWp eingetragene VIAF auch in Wikidata als missbilligt eingetragen ist "keine VIAF in Wikidata" und ob noch andere Identifikatoren bei Wikidata als missbilligt eingetragen sind "kein missbilligter Rang in Wikidata" und auch ob sich Identifikatoren unterscheiden. Disen Abgleich mach ist seit Ende Februar.

Und eben seit Februar guck ich jeden Tag ein paar durch und trage unpassende Identifikatoren entsprechend als missbilligt ein. Im Sommer bin ich dann hoffentlich durch.

Und da fallen mir immer wieder irgendwelche Batch-Dinger auf:

  • Q1608574: Silewe wirft im Juni die NUKAT raus. Im Dezember kommt einer und trägt das wieder ein. Weil ist ja in der VIAF.
  • Q87057273: Silewe wirft im Oktober die NUKAT raus, im Dezember … siehe zeile oben.
  • Q1442679: nochmals sowas …

Das nervt einfach.

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Deshalb wirft man sowas auch am besten nicht raus, sondern zeichnet es mit dem missbilligten Rang aus.

Kolja21 (talkcontribs)

So ein missbilligter Rang stört leider einen echten Schnelleditierer nicht, sonst hätte es diesen Edit nicht gegeben. (Auch Ausrufezeichen, Blitze und andere Warnhinweise werden ignoriert. Einige User auf WD schauen sich weder an, was sie importieren, noch wie das Ergebnis aussieht.) Besonders problematischer ist, dass offenbar massenweise Einträge ohne Beschreibung erstellt werden, die sich auf mehrere Personen beziehen, siehe Talk:Q98931427.

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Naja, wenn die NUKAT-Aussage mit missbillligtem Rang im Objekt verblieben wäre, dann wäre der Identifikator nicht erneut mit normalem Rang hinzugefügt worden.

Kolja21 (talkcontribs)

Wäre schön. Ich hatte aber auch schon Fälle, in denen eine ID doppelt eingetragen war: Ein Mal mit missbillligtem und ein Mal mit normalem Rang.

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Das dürfte wirklich selten sein.

Kolja21 (talkcontribs)

PS: Das Einzige, was in den von Wurgl erwähnten Fällen hilft, ist, für den Namensvetter einen getrennten Eintrag zu erstellen und die beiden Items mit "verschieden von" zu markieren. Das rafft VIAF, und das "verschieden von" schützt vor dem wilden Rumgemerge, eine weitere Dauerbaustelle in Wikidata.

Wurgl (talkcontribs)

Ich mach so Wikidata-Einträge wo ich kaum Information hab, nicht gerne. Gerade eben: Q1731441 … die LCCN. Das einzige was ich da eintragen kann ist Geburtsjahr. Okay, Professor war er und einen Doktor-Titel hatte er. Mir ist das zu wenig für einen Eintrag.

Wurgl (talkcontribs)

Guck mal auf die Geschichte von Q1301992. Silewe markiert die VIAF als vermischt und weil es lustig ist (anderen Grund sehe ich nicht), wird dann eine falsche PLWABN hinzugefügt. Wenn der Artikel wenigstens auch in der plWP zu finden wäre, so kann die Quelle/der Grund für dieses Hinzufügen ja nur die VIAF sein und die war da eindeutig als Vermischung markiert.

Kolja21 (talkcontribs)

Das ist der Edit eines Problem-Users. Er legt auch Objekte ohne Beschreibung an, die sich auf mehrere Personen beziehen. Alle Ansprachen waren bislang erfolglos, siehe User talk:Matlin. Dem Fall müsste sich ein polnischsprachiger Admin annehmen.

Kolja21 (talkcontribs)

PS: Sehe gerade, dass der User seit vorgestern gesperrt ist.

Wurgl (talkcontribs)

Dann hab ich ja zurecht genörgelt ;^)

Matlin (talkcontribs)

Nein, das ist nicht ein Gesprächsproblem. Ich kann sowohl Deutsch, als auch Englisch sprechen. Guck Mal auf meine Seite. Xdddd

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Lmichan (talkcontribs)

Hello, we would like to know the reason for the deletion of this record https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q111445837 called FireDB so as not to repeat the error, we are editing biological databases in the project https://www.wikidata .org/wiki/Wikidata:Bioscience_Databases

Our source is https://www.oxfordjournals.org/nar/database/summary/986

Can you help us please?


@Delia Gonzale Marin @MinRo60

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Hey Lmichan, the item was created by User:Delia Gonzale Marin on April 1st, including some basic statements. However, on April 6th they have removed almost all information from the item again, leaving it is a state that does not make it compliant with the notability policy of this project (see Wikidata:Notability).

If you have plans to use (and improve) the item, I would simply undelete it.

187.187.225.209 (talkcontribs)

Yes please, we will review and complete it, thank you!

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)
189.161.224.63 (talkcontribs)

I am Lmichan using cellphone

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Bitte um Zusammenlegen von zwei Datenobjekten

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Gymnicus (talkcontribs)

Die beiden Datenobjekte Phornetia Browne (Q19662016) und Phoenetia Browne (Q97750859) sollten zusammen gelegt werden. Auch wenn die englischen Labels der beiden Datenobjekte unterschiedlich sind, so handelt es sich dennoch um die gleiche Person. Im Datenobjekt Phornetia Browne (Q19662016) kommt der (wahrscheinlich) falsche Name daher, dass in der englischsprachigen Wikipedia am 20 März 2015 unter den Namen „Phornetia Browne“ angelegt wurde. Am 27. Mai 2018‎ erfolgte dann die Verschiebung des englischsprachigen Artikels auf den (wahrscheinlich" korrekten Namen „Phoenetia Browne“. Im Wikidata-Objekt wurde diese Umbenennung nicht berücksichtig und deswegen kam es dazu, dass beim Import ihres Sonnerdonna-Eintrages am 28. Juli 2020‎ mit Phoenetia Browne (Q97750859) ein neues Datenobjekt erstellt wurde. Das es sich bei „Phoenetia Browne“ um den verwendeten Namen handelt, kann man auch auf der Internetseite ihres aktuellen Arbeitgebers SC Sand sehen (siehe hier). Ich würde mich freuen, wenn die beiden Datenobjekte zusammen gelegt werden. Im voraus schon ein Dankeschön.

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Vandalismus rückgängig machen

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Summary by Gymnicus

vandalism has been reversed by MisterSynergy

Gymnicus (talkcontribs)
MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

erl

Gymnicus (talkcontribs)

Dankeschön

Wwrick10 (talkcontribs)

My deletion requests have been not answered and deleted.

How to proceed in that case?

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)
Wwrick10 (talkcontribs)

I did. They have never responded. Furthermore, they have deleted the requests.

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Hroptatyr (talkcontribs)

Are you (or your bot) erroneously deleting pages claiming they are empty?


In particular 12 of my pages got deleted with the claim they are empty while in fact they contained 3 statements each, including a label, a description and an instance-of.

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Hey Hroptatyr, I usually delete items with the reason "empty item" if they do not have any claims and sitelinks—even if there are labels and/or descriptions in the item. This is pretty usual, others do this similarly.

However, I can't find items created by you which I deleted that actually have any claims (no instance-of either). Did you perhaps forget to add those claims?

I would of course undelete items, but please provide a list of Q-IDs here. You can then add claims and references to them.

Hroptatyr (talkcontribs)

Hey thanks for the reply. I'm currently going through the pages meta dumps to see what has happened. I noticed in particular because Q111799715 (San Salvador Day) was still open in a browser tab, and I wanted to incorporate some of the research (mostly grabbed from es-wiki) into en-wiki, only to find that the page went missing.


I do have a list but I can't possibly populate the items with all information right away, plus I want to see what I can reconstruct from the meta dumps.


Is there a time limit by which an undeletion becomes impossible, i.e. is it a matter of urgency to undelete them now?

Hroptatyr (talkcontribs)

Hi again, I found proof in the wikidata incremental dumps that I did indeed create all items with more than just a label. I'm still trying to see if somebody reverted claims so that the pages appeared empty to you, and hence you deleted them.


Out of interest, if you undelete the pages will the history be restored as well?

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)
  • There are no formal constraints when and how an undeletion process can happen. You have all the time you need, but I would be willing to undelete quickly. I just need to know which items we talk about :-)
  • There is some risk that someone else deletes these items again if they continue to not meet the notability requirements at WD:N. However, the deletion/undeletion history will be visible to other admins and we will also add backlinks to this topic in order to help others find this conversation.
  • Special:DeletedContributions/Hroptatyr (admin access only) and may be helpful to find deleted items.
  • When I undelete, I undelete the entire revision history so you should be able to see everything that was there when I deleted the item, including edits by others.
Hroptatyr (talkcontribs)

Oh ok. I see. I'm wondering if the of (P642) deprecation has kicked in. Out of habit I instantiated them with P642, and meant to clarify later. Didn't get around to it.


Anyway, I'm talking about these:

Q111662035 Q111670624 Q111679753 Q111679978

Q111680197 Q111711757 Q111712010 Q111712059

Q111726774 Q111734681 Q111750057 Q111750482

Q111772429 Q111781307 Q111792287 Q111792669

Q111799715

and by the end of the week, I will surely have constructed the statements. They're all public holidays featured on xx-wiki (en-wiki mostly).

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)
Hroptatyr (talkcontribs)

Thank you so much.

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