Property talk:P1449

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nickname
informal name (for a pseudonym use P742)
DescriptionThe entity's most common nickname.
Representsnickname (Q49614)
Data typeMonolingual text
Template parameteren:template:Infobox football club nickname
Domainorganization (eg. football clubs) and persons (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Allowed valuesany text (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Example
According to statements in the property:
California (Q99)The Golden State
Shaquille O'Neal (Q169452)Shaq
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
SourceExternal reference, Wikipedia list article (note: this information should be moved to a property statement; use property source website for the property (P1896))
Tracking: sameno label (Q42533440)
Tracking: differencesno label (Q55283122)
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P1449 (Q20990033)
Tracking: local yes, WD nono label (Q55283123)
See alsoshort name (P1813), pseudonym (P742), named as (P1810)
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Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses10,649
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Only organization?[edit]

Only limited to organizations? Why? Michiel1972 (talk) 13:06, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

I have the same question - I want to use this as a qualifier for people with membership in the club "Bentvueghels", e.g. Kristiaan Reuder (Q18814454) Jane023 (talk) 12:35, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
As the property has a statement instance of (P31) Wikidata property for items about people (Q18608871) I assume it can be used for people as well. -- Bene* talk 12:46, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! Jane023 (talk) 13:01, 19 April 2015 (UTC
If you look above you can see the example used when the property was proposed is a person. However it used for a nickname for this individual, not for generic nicknames for all members of an organisation ("Gooners" for supporters of Arsenal football club). Are you trying to say that Kristiaan Reuder was known as 'Leander' to the other members of Bentvueghels? If so then there are better properties than nickname. I suggest you use pseudonym (P742). You should add a reference as well giving the source of your information. Filceolaire (talk) 06:43, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Actually, the nickname, once given was used also by others, not just members of the club. For some, their original names have been sadly forgotten. I guess it is a bit like nuns when they take on a new name when they put on a habit. A pseudonym in my mind is a name someone takes on when they are hiding something, not a name they are proud of. The example was only added after my query in the project chat. Jane023 (talk) 16:34, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi Jane023 and Filceolaire, how far did you get adding the names and which datamodel did you use? I was planning on getting started with this as well, but I would like to know what properties are preferred. Should we use Geri Halliwell (Q19845) as the example states? Or, should we use nickname (P1449) and add the Bentvlueghels nickname, but if we do that, how do we model the connection to the Bentvlueghels? Would love to hear what you think! SIryn (talk) 09:23, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
It's been awhile, but I just add the nickname as a qualifier for member of (P463). The membership is also used for other collectives, like guilds, but then I don't use a qualifier. Theoretically I suppose there are bentvueghel members with unknown nicknames, but generally the existance of a nickname causes art historians to assume bentvueghel membership, since there is no one publication (that I know of) that documents membership over the course of 150+ years. Jane023 (talk) 12:30, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks! Did you finish adding or can I still help out there? SIryn (talk) 10:42, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Internet nicknames[edit]

Is it the right property for Internet nicknames? If so, the mandatory "language" qualifier doesn't always make sense for this one. --eugrus (talk) 15:28, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Limitations of text field[edit]

The current property as a text field is more appropriate to a Q279239 than to a nickname that is the short form of a given name, like Bob (Q18105736) for Robert (Q4927937). Perhaps we should consider a new property, or another way of dealing with this?--Pharos (talk) 15:55, 23 September 2018 (UTC)