Property talk:P112

From Wikidata
Jump to navigation Jump to search

Documentation

founded by
founder or co-founder of this organization, religion or place
DescriptionFounder or co-founder of organization or place
Representsorganizational founder (Q26950764)
Data typeItem
Template parameter
  • No corresponding parameter in Infobox organisation or Infobox country.
  • The parameter "Founder(s)" is used in Infobox company and Infobox settlement, and in several less usual infoboxes.
  • Also used in several articles on enwp with the wiki code
    | class="infobox"... | align="right" | '''Founder''' | ...| .
Domain
According to this template: Organization, place
According to statements in the property:
organization (Q43229), fictional organization (Q14623646), geographical object (Q618123), architectural structure (Q811979), recurring event (Q15275719), community (Q177634), serial (Q2217301), project (Q170584), award (Q618779), branch of pseudoscience (Q60031086), business (Q4830453), ideology (Q7257), convention (Q625994) and record label (Q18127)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed valuesPerson (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
ExampleApple (Q312)Steve Jobs (Q19837), Steve Wozniak (Q483382) and Ronald Wayne (Q332591)
Tracking: sameno label (Q27673383)
Tracking: differencesno label (Q55283222)
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P112 (Q22158807)
Tracking: local yes, WD noCategory:Founder not in Wikidata, but available on Wikipedia (Q22158804)
Lists
Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses32,065
Search for values
[create] Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here
Item “instance of (P31): Items with this property should also have “instance of (P31)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P112#Item P31, search, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
Contemporaries:
if [item A] has this property (P112) linked to [item B],
then [item A] and [item B] have to coincide or coexist at some point of history.
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P112#Contemporary, SPARQL
This property is being used by:

Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Also co-founder[edit]

I've added "or co-founder," if this is problematic, please remove. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:31, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Someone who founded a place -- i.e. a state or city -- should be applicable, too. Yet we term them "geographical features" and not "organizations." So I've tweaked the description a little. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:00, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Human instead of person[edit]

The constraints must be updated, person (Q215627) states it is not to be used for instance of (P31). Ahoerstemeier (talk) 15:56, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

so you reject using of this property for fictitious organisations? --Infovarius (talk) 14:50, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

constraint report relating to Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410)[edit]

If instance of (P31) is a Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410) the presence of founded by (P112) is prohibited.

see: Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410) with founder (P112) gangLeri לערי ריינהארט (talk) 10:50, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Organisations, Countries[edit]

Looking at the constraint violations for this property, I'm seeing lots of instances where a country or organisation is listed as the founder, e.g.

Do we want to change the constraints of this property or create a new one to handle these values? Thryduulf (talk: local | en.wp | en.wikt) 10:53, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I'd say any agent (Q24229398) should be allowed. -- JakobVoss (talk) 09:07, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
I agree that the allowed values should be expanded to more than just persons. Any agent seems a sensible suggestion as this would be a catch-all for the entities that are often founders. If that is not agreeable, then perhaps a founding member property is necessary.Sic19 (talk) 17:31, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Multiple foundations[edit]

What do you do with organisations that have been re-founded? e.g. w:Magdalene College, Cambridge

--Deryck Chan (talk) 14:52, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Slight label change to encourage correct use of this property[edit]

I have changed the label (again) from 'founder' to 'founded by', in order to avoid confusion and improve human-readability and correct use. I've seen too many wrong applications of this property where a human (Q5) is said to be founded by (P112) an organization. Spinster 💬 11:09, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Founder of an ideology[edit]

I've added ideology (Q7257) as a class that could be founded by someone. This includes religions as a subclass of that, but also things like political ideologies.--Pharos (talk) 17:23, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

value type constraint[edit]

Organization can be founded by another organization, also company (subsidiary) can be founded by company , not only limited to government and human. Matthew hk (talk) 21:23, 24 December 2018 (UTC)