Help talk:Statements

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Unclear meaning[edit]

Hello, what does the sentence Bear with us as we roll out iteratively in the end of the second paragraph exactly mean? Thanks and regards, --Michawiki (talk) 18:45, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

It's an expression that basically means, "please be patient with us as while we release each part of Wikidata". I'll clarify it on the page. The Anonymouse (talk | contribs) 18:55, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
Hello Anonymouse. Thank you for your prompt reply. The small word as is still a little bit unclear but I think it means "while" or "when" here. --Michawiki (talk) 19:10, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
Yes, "while" is more clear. Sorry about that. :) The Anonymouse (talk | contribs) 19:13, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. You needn't apologize. It was you who helped me! --Michawiki (talk) 19:17, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
You're welcome. Thanks for letting us know. The Anonymouse (talk | contribs) 19:21, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Updates and translations[edit]

Hi guys,

Im up to translate this page into German. However I found this page is partly outdated, partly still a draft paper. I´ve taken over some updated parts from the glossary, but at the bottom there are some more sections for terms allready mentioned above. So it would be nice to bring this page in proper shape and to keep it up to date before translation. I also ask kindly to refrain from breaking up entire paragraphs into many translation sections, for example by separating the headers. The translator needs to some extend the context to do his work properly. So please keep the size of each translation section to one paragraph and its header and keep numbered sections together. It would also be nice to merge the sections on top and the draft parts and then remove the draft. This will make translation easier. Thanks--Giftzwerg 88 (talk) 10:16, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Links[edit]

  1. In the Glossary section, there is a link to [[#Entity|entity]] but there is no definition of entity on the page. What to do? --Michgrig (talk) 22:28, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
  2. In the same section, there is a link to #Inclusion but there is no such section. There is another section, "Inclusion criteria". Was the link supposed to go there? --Michgrig (talk) 22:42, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Property data types?[edit]

This page lists six data types for property values, but "integer" is not among them. Is this list up-to-date? Klortho (talk) 06:48, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't know why I thought "integer" was an already-implemented datatype. Nevertheless, I'd still like to know if this list is up-to-date, and/or where one might find the definitive list. If anyone knows, thanks! Klortho (talk) 07:21, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Special:ListDatatypes. Numbers datatype is soon to come as it is currently under test.  — Felix Reimann (talk) 07:58, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Updates as part of documentation overhaul[edit]

Hi all,

I recently made substantial edits to Help:Statements as part of a larger sitewide documentation overhaul (more info on this here).

To compare my edits with the previous version please see the diffs here

I am still working on it, but thus far major changes include the following:

  • provided more introductory content on what statements do/are for
  • removed all references to 'claims' (and changed them to 'statements'). I think this is a lot less confusing for the average user
  • provided many more examples
  • got rid of "glossary" section and integrated the content from that section into general principles
  • changed language so there is less focus on just Wikipedia/more inclusion of all of Wikimedia sites
  • removed references to future/anticipated processes or features (e.g. multilingual texts)
  • moved around content in an attempt to redesign page so it more closely matches the format of other Help pages
  • added content on custom values/no values/unknown values, added more info on qualifiers and sources
  • updated info on datatypes
  • removed older screenshot - I have yet to replace it though

Please let me know if you have any concerns about these changes or suggestions on further improving the documentation. Here are issues I would also like specific feedback on, as well as questions I have generally about how thing work:

  • is this page too long? Should it be split up into other pages (for example, a new Help:Values or Help:Properties page) Maybe all sources info could just stay on the Help:Sources page?
  • are there too many/too few screenshots? What should be in there?
  • should there be more info on adding/creating properties - for instance, how to actually engage with the property proposal process? Maybe this could be a separate page that also covers task forces?
  • should there be more info on using data types - i.e. how do I add a geographical coordinate as a value? (I could not figure this out myself...). What about information on which properties go with what data types - for example, is it possible to assume that Wikidata:List_of_properties/all#Media is a comprehensive list of all media properties that accept Commons file data types?
  • is there a good example of a "consensus" qualifier I can include on this page? What purpose does a consensus qualifier serve if there is a preferred rank on a statement?
  • is there any update on where things stand for using bots to check or update missing bi-directional links?
  • should "multilingual texts" be included? perhaps in a "guidelines in English" section?

Thanks. -Thepwnco (talk) 22:55, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Policy on subclasses[edit]

Is there a policy or guideline on what to do with statements that are subclasses or superclasses of each other? For example, given items 'foo', 'bar', and 'Baz bar' and statements (foo, instance of, Baz bar) and (Baz bar, instance of, bar), is the statement (foo, instance of, bar) encouraged, discouraged, or optional? — GPHemsley (talk) 20:22, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

statement suggester / dropdown menu when adding a statement[edit]

When adding a new statement to an item, a dropdown menu appears with a list of suggested properties/statements. Is there some sort of order to this list? Is it the most used properties? Is it the properties Wikidata has predetermined that it specifically wants me to fill out? Thank --Jackson665 (talk) 08:18, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Need link and some help at Guidelines for external relationships[edit]

see Help:Statements/Guidelines for external relationships (and add link to "see also" at Help:Statements)