Wikidata:Property proposal/Bursa Malaysia stock code

Bursa Malaysia stock code

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

   Done: Bursa Malaysia stock code (P7288) (Talk and documentation)

Description	stock code on Bursa Malaysia
Data type	External identifier
Domain	company (Q783794)
Allowed values	\d+
Example 1	Media Prima (Q6805531) → 4502
Example 2	Telekom Malaysia (Q1640639) → 4863
Example 3	Tenaga Nasional (Q1584297) → 5347
Example 4	RHB Bank (Q4207443) → 1066
Source	http://www.bursamalaysia.com/
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/list-of-companies/plc-profile.html?stock_code=$1

Motivation

This property will help in linking a company to its stock report. — Jeluang Terluang (talk) 10:08, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Discussion

•  Support David (talk) 06:57, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
•  Comment How is this different from using ticker symbol (P249) with qualifier stock exchange (P414) Bursa Malaysia (Q43335)? Mahir256 (talk) 22:33, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
•  Oppose per Mahir256. --Ysangkok (talk) 22:25, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
•  Oppose per Mahir256 --DannyS712 (talk) 00:42, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
•  Support Some differences are: (1) we could provide a formatter URL with a direct link to the info provided by the actual exchange it is listed on, and that this wouldn't be hidden in the references; (2) we could set up a mix'n'match set that directly sets the values in wikidata; (3) we could more easily set up property constraints that relate to the country it is listed in; (4) we could set up third-party formatter URLs for other webpages that also have info on the companies listed on a particular stock exchange. I realise this is not how we have done previous ticker symbols, so it may be better discussed in a RFC, but in my opinion, our properties for businesses are underdeveloped, so I support these IDs. --99of9 (talk) 01:43, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

  @99of9: I understand your point, but think that an RfC would probably be better. Since even New York Stock Exchange (Q13677) doesn't have a property for itself (stock code on the New York Stock Exchange) there doesn't seem to be precedent for this. --DannyS712 (talk) 02:26, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

•  Support The property provides a link to the stock exchange that trades a stock of the company. That's useful information for people who are interested in the company. Traditionally, I think we didn't make decisions like this by having an RfC beforehand. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 10:27, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
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  Notified participants of WikiProject Companies to get interested people a opportunity to comment. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 10:31, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
•  Support per 99of9 --MB-one (talk) 13:13, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
•  Support I think this is ok - they don't use a "symbol" they use an integer number, and presumably (unlike say the NYSE) those numbers would not be re-used over time, so it's a real identifier rather than just a traditional ticker symbol. ArthurPSmith (talk) 14:24, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
•  Comment Note that, in a case of creation, there may be 200+ possible new properties. I will ping Wikidata:Project chat as well.Jklamo (talk) 15:06, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
•  Support Reasonable. But preferably usage as qualifier of stock exchange (P414), not as a standalone property. --Jklamo (talk) 15:11, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
•  Support The features described by @99of9: are useful and not all of them can be implemented with a generic property. On the other hand, consider that there are sites that resolve ticker+exchange in combination (e.g google finance).
  • the argument "symbol vs integer" is not relevant. Some companies sell their seat on an exchange (together with the ticker) or sometimes it can be obtained in an acquisition, that is the nature of things. It just means tickers should be qualified with start/ end. --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 07:42, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
•  Question before creating hundreds of these, could we see how it would work for e.g. Q156578 with multiple shares/listings? --- Jura 08:59, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
  • as a qualifier of each stock exchange (P414) value.--Jklamo (talk) 13:57, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
    • How would one make the link between the different types of shares? Why include the stock exchange property? --- Jura 18:44, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

@ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, ChristianKl, Jklamo, ArthurPSmith, Vladimir Alexiev, DannyS712: @MB-one, Jeluang Terluang, 99of9, Mahir256, Ysangkok, Jura1:  Done: Bursa Malaysia stock code (P7288). − Pintoch (talk) 18:40, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

• I listed this for deletion until we finished the discussion. --- Jura 18:44, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
  • @Jura1, Pintoch: looks like this discussing is finished so it's unclear what Jura1's expectations are. Jura1, please explain what your expectations are. Multichill (talk) 21:01, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
    • @Multichill: See the question about Q156578 above. As we will end up with 200 similar properties, I think it's worth looking at. --- Jura 21:05, 11 September 2019 (UTC)