Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Oversight/Rschen7754

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

Closed and reported at meta:Steward requests/Permissions On hold -- Bene* talk 09:05, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Approved I hereby confirm community approval of this request. Awaiting steward closure. Vogone talk 03:46, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Flagged by Teles. Congrats! Vogone talk 04:25, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Rschen7754[edit]

Vote
RfP scheduled to end at 7 May 2013 02:53 (UTC)

Quite a few editors have expressed a desire for a local oversight team over the last few days, and I am willing to volunteer to be one of our first oversighters. I have over 11,000 edits on Wikidata and have been an admin here since January 2. I have also been an admin on the English Wikipedia since December 2005, and an admin on the English Wikivoyage since January of this year. I have OTRS access to the queues info-en(f), permissions, photosubmissions, and sister projects. I do not hold any roles requiring identification at this time, but I am identified to the Foundation.

As far as relevant experience, I have made several suppression requests on the English Wikipedia (including some fairly complex requests), and a few on other wikis, and feel that I have a good grasp of what should and should not be oversighted, and what should be discussed among the other oversighters. So far, the vast majority of suppressions on this wiki have been fairly innocuous, but I am prepared to deal with more complex and malicious cases as our wiki grows. I am available on IRC for much of the day, and respond to email quickly; I also live on the West Coast and am active late at night when many other admins/stewards are unavailable. I take privacy very seriously and am aware of the on-wiki and real life consequences that can occur when suppressed information is leaked. As others have said, the main prerequisite for being an oversighter is the trust of the community; I believe that oversighters should remain accountable to the community, while maintaining the necessary privacy and integrity necessary for oversighting to serve its purposes, rather than resulting in the Streisand effect. --Rschen7754 02:53, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to take this time to personally thank everyone who supported me, and I would like to thank all of the other candidates as well. It is clear that while this nomination is going to pass, the others will not at this time, so I will not be granted the oversight flag until we have another candidate who receives the appropriate level of support from the community. I still believe that we could use local oversighters at this time, but as a large portion of the community apparently disagrees, I suppose that we will have to wait until we "really" need them. But meanwhile there's plenty of other things for me to do, on Wikidata and on other Wikimedia sites, so I won't be going anywhere. --Rschen7754 03:05, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
We are going to keep this request open for some time, but, indeed, I hope that eventually at least one more oversighter request will be successful so that you could be granted the flag together.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:53, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Votes[edit]

  1.  Strong support He is very well-tempered and has much experience in the relevant fields.--Jasper Deng (talk) 03:33, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  2.  Support I'm sure that Rschen will perform the duties of an oversighter accurately. — ΛΧΣ21 03:46, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  3.  Support I've worked with Rschen7754 on English Wikipedia for almost the entire time he's been an admin there. I trust his judgment, and in fact, I often solicit his advice as a fellow admin there whenever I'm unsure what the best course of action is. I know he has been interacting with the oversighters a lot on enwp (no doubt due in part to his position on the OTRS team) so I think he has the experience needed to responsibly use the flag himself. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 03:53, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  4.  Support Sven Manguard Wha? 03:55, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  5.  Support I trust Rschen7754's judgement. Legoktm (talk) 03:59, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  6.  Support -- Cheers, Riley 04:05, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  7.  Neutral The stats provided by MF-W in this discussion do not indicate a need for local oversighters for now, in my opinion. Anyway, it is the community's decision and the candidate is well-qualified, so I'm not going to oppose here. Regards, Vogone talk 05:41, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  8.  Support Ajraddatz (Talk) 11:59, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  9.  Support ·Add§hore· Talk To Me! 12:49, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  10.  Support One of the strongest candidates in the pool so far --Guerillero | Talk 14:50, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  11.  Support --Stryn (talk) 15:53, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  12.  Support --DangSunM (talk) 16:46, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  13.  Support --Alan Lorenzo (talk) 13:26, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  14.  Support -- Wagino 20100516 (talk) 13:50, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  15.  Support No doubts here, an amazing candidate across multiple wikis. Vacation9 16:12, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  16.  Support IW 17:17, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  17.  Support Javad|Talk (4 Ordibehesht 1392) 19:37, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  18.  Support no words. Great candidate. John F. Lewis (talk) 20:49, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  19.  Support Courcelles (talk) 20:53, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  20.  Support --Iste (D) 20:58, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  21.  Support sats (talk) 09:52, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  22.  Support Rzuwig► 18:32, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  23.  Support Techman224Talk 23:34, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  24.  Support --Daniel749 talk (RTF) 15:42, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  25.  Support LlamaAl (talk) 01:33, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  26.  Support--Ymblanter (talk) 07:15, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  27.  Support. Érico Wouters msg 21:31, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  28.  Support. Ralgis (talk) 01:50, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  29.  Support Andreasm háblame / just talk to me 02:15, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  30.  Support -- Great contributor to this wiki. Will use these privileges well. TCN7JM 02:51, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  31.  Support --Steinsplitter (talk) 15:12, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  32.  Support -- Byrial (talk) 19:26, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  33.  Support – I can trust Rschen7754.--Bill william compton (talk) 12:19, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  34.  Support StevenJ81 (talk) 04:14, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  35.  Support Jafeluv (talk) 12:03, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  36.  Support --Wiki13 talk 17:07, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  37.  Support as a pile-on. AutomaticStrikeout 20:34, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments[edit]

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Questions from Sven Manguard for all candidates

1. Do you have OTRS access? If so, for how long and what queues?

A. I have had it since October 2012, and have the queues listed above.

2. What advanced permissions (admin, 'crat, CU, OS, or any group such as ArbCom that would grant you CU or OS) do you have on this and all other Wikimedia projects? For how long have you had these rights?

A. In addition to what is listed above, I have adminships on Outreach (January 2013), Test (January 2013), and Test2 (February or March 2013). However, I did not feel them significant enough to mention above with the others (adminship is given ad hoc by the bureaucrats on all 3). --Rschen7754 03:11, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Questions from Rschen7754 for all candidates

3. Oversighters from a few of the larger WMF projects have faced an increased risk of harassment on and off wiki, and increased pressure to disclose more information regarding a suppressed edit, i.e. who suppressed it, what the logged reason was, etc. Is this a possibility that you have considered? In the second scenario, what would your response be?

A. If I'm asking everyone else this question, I figure that I should answer it myself. The first possibility is something that I have thought about carefully, and I am willing to accept the risk. As far as the second, I do not think it wise to reveal who suppressed the edit for the above reason; also, any requests to reveal why an edit was suppressed should be treated with care, as sometimes revealing the reason defeats the purpose of suppression. --Rschen7754 08:22, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Questions from Byrial for all candidates

4. Wikidata is multilingual. Which languages may be used in requests to you for oversighting? Which additional languages would you be able to oversight? What will you do if you receive a request for oversighting a text which is in a language you don't understand?

A. English is my native language. I can understand Spanish (more than I can write in it), though it has been a while and some of the vocabulary I have to look up. However, inevitably there will be oversight requests that come in that are in languages that I cannot understand. If possible, I would consult other local oversighters first, or stewards if none are available, since they can see all oversighted information on all WMF sites anyway. Failing that, Google Translate may be of use as well; I know that some languages are not implemented effectively there, but it can't hurt. Inevitably not every language will be covered by this strategy, with 286 language Wikipedias; hopefully this does not happen that often, but we may have to ask the requester for more clarification, or contact other users for further assistance (using something like "What does the phrase _ mean" and redacting the person's name). --Rschen7754 19:23, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Questions from John F. Lewis for all candidates

5. When is it appropriate to hide a username from the public using hideuser? Why?

A: The policy allows it when there are abusive names. This is not something mildly inappropriate such as usernames representing genitals, but something blatantly attacking other users or other people, for example. In my opinion, the bar for a hideuser is a little bit lower than for other OS actions, because there is no other way to hide an account name completely with just the administrator tools. I've requested a hideuser once on enwiki where it was a sockpuppet of a long-term abuser that had begun to harass another editor, and it was granted.

6. When is it appropriate to delete log entries (deletelogentry)? Why?

A: Whenever there is material in the log entry that falls under the oversight policy, and where revdel would not be sufficient. At this time we do not have either a right to vanish policy or a stringent child protection policy, so those special cases are not applicable here.

7. When is it appropriate to hide abuse filter entires (abusefilter-hide-log)? Why?

A: Whenever there is material in the abuse filter entry that falls under the oversight policy, and where revdel would not be sufficient.
Following additional testing, there is no revdel for abuse filter entries, so as I said in question 5, the bar would be a bit lower here as well, because there would be no other way to remove such entries from public view. --Rschen7754 03:00, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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