Wikidata talk:Main Page/Archive/2013/04

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Millions

Hey guys. Once we hit Q10000000, anyone else feel like we should go to once every 2,000,000 instead? The item-based updates are back to taking up the bulk of WD:NEWS. — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 22:51, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

 Support Sure, they do get rather samey after a while. I'd be in favour of increasing the gap even further. Delsion23 (talk) 22:57, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
Even though Pink was Q4259259-ing on project chat, I think it's a good idea. Even once every 2,500,000 would be good. FrigidNinja 21:28, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
2.5 million seems about right for now. If item creation ever slows down dramatically, might be worth considering this again, though. Courcelles (talk) 01:24, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
There is now The eleventh-millionth plus one item. Should we reverse it? --Stryn (talk) 15:30, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
I'm not sure. It's actually an interesting case, so part of me thinks we should keep it up as a little window into the tech side of things. — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 06:53, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Can I add/edit wikidata links without JavaScript?

I'm sorry for this technical question, but I can not modify Wikidata links in my browser (Opera 9.27; yes, it is out-of-date, and my PC with 256 MB RAM is out-of-date too). Perhaps the source of this problem is JavaScript incompatibility (Wikidata editing pages contain pseudo-links 'edit' and 'add' to be processed by JS; however, I see no effect when clicking on them; it works neither with JS enabled nor with JS disabled). Is it possible to switch Wikidata to simplified mode with minimal technical requirements? Now the only way for me to connect articles in different languages is adding old-school interwiki links into articles for each language. P.Y.Python (talk) 01:14, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

You can't add/edit Wikidata links without JavaScript, but you can edit labels, descriptions and aliases without JavaScript on Special:SetLabel, Special:SetDescription and Special:SetAliases.--Snaevar (talk) 11:29, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Many thanks for your answer, but can it be useful if I want to interconnect a Ukrainian article with the similar English one, or to correct a wrong Ukrainian-English link? That's the only thing that I usually require. Is it possible to do it by adding labels or aliases only (if I know wikidata ID referring to the English page)? P.Y.Python (talk) 00:34, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
I don't think so. You may have to report them to WD:Interwiki conflicts, and ask for someone with JavaScript to do it for you. Delsion23 (talk) 10:30, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Bots forcing Wikidata

What is this? Now the bots that previously update iws are changing iws to Wikidata links? What happened to the idea that every wiki could - if needed - override Wikidata? Is it now so that all iws are converted by bots to Wikidata? You know that bots can do a lot of damage in a very short time if they are doing something they were not supposed to do. So if this complete conversion of iws to Wikidata was not planned, why is it executed now? And if it was planned, why did you not say it straight out?--Nedergard (talk) 17:02, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

What are you talking about? --FischX (talk) 21:48, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata was announced last year and has been advertised on the village pump of every Wikipedia language edition. It is possible for any Wikipedia editor to override Wikidata by using this magic word. Overall, the movement of links from the Wikipedias to Wikidata is a good thing for the Wikimedia project as it centralises all the links rather than have them hosted on each language edition individually. Delsion23 (talk) 10:23, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Protecting

I disagree with all those mass-protections of "vulnerable" pages; on many projects, the MPs are still unprotected and so it's proven to work well. IMHO full protection shouldn't be used in such cases (unless the page is vandalized); maybe semi-protection would be enough. --Ricordisamoa 05:35, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

We just got hit with some template vandalism where templates that were transcluded on the Main Page were vandalized, resulting in the Main Page being vandalized. Since we're now in the top 10 for largest WMF wikis, I think this is necessary. --Rschen7754 05:37, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
Main page is currently semi-protected, with all of the templates full protected. This might be lowered at a future date, however right now the protection is justified. Sven Manguard Wha? 05:38, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
It's actually fullprotected now. --Rschen7754 05:42, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
Just did a bit of research... going off the Meta info pages since vvv's tool is down, the only Wikipedia with more than 50 admins where the page is unprotected is the Russian Wikipedia. And there they have pending changes on the Main Page. We have roughly 60 admins right now... --Rschen7754 05:54, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Et le français, c'est par où ?

Bonjour, j'ai demandé Wikidata en français, pourquoi rien n'est en français ??? Qu'est-ce que c'est que ce charabia ? 109.21.177.42 00:21, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Si vous creez un compte, vous pouvez changer la langue vers le français. Sinon, vous pouvez ajouter ?uselang=fr sur tous les URLs, mais c'est difficile - donc, vous devriez bien de creer une compte utilasateur.--Jasper Deng (talk) 00:33, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
C'est bien ce que j'avais fait ! Sur Wikidata:Main_Page?uselang=fr, tout est en anglais, et sur Wikidata_talk:Main_Page?uselang=fr, itou ! (et apparemment on ne peut même pas ajouter le paramètre ?uselang=fr aux liens internes, comme vous pouvez le constatez ils deviennent rouges et ne marchent plus) 109.21.177.42 12:05, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Désolé. La page d'accueil en français est Wikidata:Community portal/fr. Ces seraient automatiquements faits si vous creez une compte.--Jasper Deng (talk) 15:03, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Eh bien, on n'y arrive pas facilement, à cette page Wikidata:Community portal/fr ! Quand on clique sur le lien Wikidata en français, on arrive sur Wikidata:Main_Page?uselang=fr, où tout est en anglais. Ensuite, cette pression continuelle pour nous pousser à nous créer des comptes est insupportable. Non, je n'ai pas de compte Face-de-Singe, ni de compte Gazou-Gazou, et non je n'ai pas l'intention non plus de me créer un compte Wikidata ! Par contre, je suis quand même bien content que (en tous cas jusqu'à maintenant) on ne soit, malgré la pression continuelle exercée, pas obligé de se créer ce fameux compte. Et bien content également de trouver de sympathiques contributeurs comme vous pour répondre à mes interrogations. Je vous en remercie :-) et merci aussi pour le lien Wikidata:Community portal/fr :-) 109.21.177.42 15:27, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
En fait, c'est ça : si je clique sur « Wikidata est disponible en français. » ou si je passe par le sélecteur de langue, j'obtiens la même page, où tout est en anglais, donc. Mais si je clique sur le choix de langues en-dessous de « Welcome to Wikidata », j'arrive sur la page d'accueil en français, Wikidata:Accueil_principal. Si c'était possible, il faudrait que les deux premières manières de faire basculent également sur la page Wikidata:Accueil_principal... Merci encore ! 109.21.177.42 11:23, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Incorrect spelling of numbers for the April 27th & April 15th entries

The word twelveth is an archaic form of twelfth. The phrase eleventh-millionth plus one should be phrased as eleven-millionth-plus one. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.8.34.50 (talk • contribs) at 04:23, 30 April 2013 (UTC).