Wikidata talk:Main Page/Archive/2013/02

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Balancing

The page was starting to look rather imbalanced toward the right side (strange, since Wikimedia projects are normally more partial to the left ). And since the Jan. 13 and Jan. 30 entries in WD:News both cover two events, I figured we could sacrifice the Jan. 4 entry. If anyone feels very strongly about this, they should feel free to revert me, but we're already talking about minimizing the number of "milestone" entries, so I didn't think it would be all too controversial. — PinkAmpers&^{(Je vous invite à me parler)} 07:30, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

We could also get rid of the "list of mayors" news. Then we could expand the "Contribute" and "Use Wikidata on your wiki" sections. Sound too radical? πr² (t • c) 17:44, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Balance That makes sense to me, especially since the news section is more-or-less trivial, but contributing and re-using the data are pivotal. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:49, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

I'd say that we should either expand the left-side stuff or remove the "list of mayors" entry, but not both... but don't care particularly either way; the more important thing is that the "Use Wikidata on your wiki" section is far too jargon-y, and could definitely use some TLC. Also, I'm going to add a link to the glossary in "Contribute". (Oh, btw, sorry to see the article on you got deleted from frwiki, Justin.) — PinkAmpers&^{(Je vous invite à me parler)} 14:16, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

The item-number milestones are not really important news. Besides, they're only interesting if you use base 10 (decimal). :P But, more seriously, something needs to be done. The news and up-do-date sections are too much longer than the left side. (Oh, btw, what article on frwiki ?) πr² (t • c) 02:54, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Trivia It's true that 3.5 million, 4 million, etc. are increasingly trivial. What's important is that a critical mass is being reached and between actual human users and (semi)-automated edits, this is becoming a useful database. And for what it's worth, he means w:fr:Justin Knapp. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:46, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

@PiRSquared It occurs to me that as phase II gets more and more intricate, we could wind up at a point where we had featured items, which could actually solve layout problems (we'd move "Use Wikidata" on your wiki to the right column or the bottom). @Justin Haha yeah. Stumbled on that going through the frwiki deletion logs :( Well, at least you can use Wikidata to track what 'pedias you're on now. (Oh, and I agree with your point re the significance of arbitrary numbers.) — PinkAmpers&^{(Je vous invite à me parler)} 20:33, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Our other "Main Page"

I think it's good to somehow incorporate Q5296 into the page. I'm a strong proponent of finding convenient ways to demonstrate uses of Wikidata to newcomers (e.g. linking to the items on "free content", "knowledge base", "Hungarian Wikipedia", etc., instead of linking to Wikipedia articles), and since Q5296 is one of the only items that we have links to all 285 'pedias for, it's pretty much an exemplary case. And, of course, it has a nice recursive feel - Hey, this is the main page of a knowledge base... Wanna see how the knowledge base works? Well look at how it lists the main pages of all these other projects. Here's my first go at referencing it... thoughts? Bold edits to the main page are fun for all, so anyone should feel free to revert me, or to move the link somewhere else, without discussion. — PinkAmpers&^{(Je vous invite à me parler)} 14:24, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

To be honest I think this recursive thing is bad. When people have a hard time understanding something then being clever like this makes it even harder for them. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 15:11, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

I agree. --Yair rand (talk) 02:38, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Poking about this again. Any better examples? This really is confusing for people. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 10:04, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

If y'all really think it's too confusing, then remove the link, I guess. That said, it got enough traffic that we had to semi it, so clearly people are at least clicking on it. (Incidentally, I've added a link to the mainspace sandbox to try to reduce the frequency of test edits to higher-profile pages.) — PinkAmpers&^{(Je vous invite à me parler)} 10:31, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Catalan language

I was in a random page, in Enter description / More languages / Select language and I did not find Catalan, my language, in the European languages section. It is a bit frustrating, that this new wiki does not take Catalan account. It should be included immediately, like all the other languages in wikipedia. Thank you. --Catalaalatac (talk) 13:02, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Try this: [1] or other way, on top panel, before your user name is language selector, there is "català". --Stryn (talk) 13:29, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

I can change my language to "català" listed under Europe. If this is a bug you should report it at WD:Contact the development team. --Sk!d (talk) 13:31, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

With this magic on your userpage you suddenly see Catalan everywhere ;-). Please expand the babel template with any other language skills you have to see them. Multichill (talk) 17:49, 26 February 2013 (UTC)