Wikidata talk:WikiProject Taxonomy/Archive/2015/05

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taxon name (P225) as label

According to this document by International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature, only the 26 letters of the Latin alphabet are used for taxon name, so I can add taxon name (P225) as label for every item that have instance of (P31) = taxon (Q16521) and that have only one taxon name (P225). I can add it for all the language that don't have label. Do you think is correct? --ValterVB (talk) 21:11, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

ValterVB, do you remember this thread? --Succu (talk) 21:37, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Ops, I forgot it :) So we haven't a clear consensus about this. --ValterVB (talk) 21:47, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

I would like the option of having a fall-back to Latin to be explored a bit further. Can we think of a way to implement this such that it would be useful more generally (e.g. for songs, ships etc., as discussed in the other thread)? --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 03:10, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

A new bot request: ‎Adding missing labels for all biological species, genus, families, etc. --Succu (talk) 08:04, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

FYI

A new development. - Brya (talk) 18:31, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Element of national fauna / flora

Hi,
as far as I can see there are two properties on geographical distribution of a taxon - the one is endemic to (P183) and the other is taxon range map image (P181) (both are not taxanomic properties but handled here). This leads to - for example - the use of "endemic in = Europa, Asia" for Eurasian species like in Red squirrel (Q4388). I would propose to add an additional property for elements of national fauna / flora so that with this property it would be possible to arrange national faunas / floras as a query for the future on diffenerent taxon level. This may lead to long lists of countries for cosmopolitan species and very short lists for endemic species but at the end it could be possible to extract list für "Mammals of China", "Herpetofauna of Madagaskar", "Birds of Gambia". What do you think on this (maybe it's long discussed)? -- Achim Raschka (talk) 14:00, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

I suppose this is inevitable. I am less than enthousiastic as this may indeed lead to long lists, and make items heavy to load. But it is in line with the purposes of Wikidata. - Brya (talk) 06:08, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Endemic in Eurasia makes no sense to me. Maybe we should stretch endemic to (P183) to a more general attribution like „distributed in“. Not sure. --Succu (talk) 22:46, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes, it appeared superfluous to me to point out the obvious, but "endemic to" refers to a limited area. The biggest area acceptable would be Madagascar, and that only because Madagascar is so far away that it seems smaller. - Brya (talk) 11:35, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

I agree on these points - endemic should be on country level at maximum or left out. This was the reason why I used Red squirrel (Q4388) as an example (was not me to insert endemic in Asia and Europe. But the reason behind is the point that there is no chance to add distribution topics to the species by now. So is there any objection to request for the properties "element of national fauna" for animal species and "element of national flora" for plant species on national level? -- Achim Raschka (talk) 06:21, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

I would say one property would be enough, something like "this taxon occurs in country"? - Brya (talk) 10:36, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi Achim, for terrestrial beings we could adopt World Geographical Scheme for Recording Plant Distributions (Q8035770). Looking around I found www.marineregions.org. Do you know this website? Maybe it offers some help for marine taxa? --Succu (talk) 21:04, 24 May 2015 (UTC)