Wikidata:Property proposal/mathematical concept definition

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mathematical concept definition[edit]

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

   Not done
Descriptiondefinition of a mathematical concept in natural language
Data typeMultilingual text (not available yet)
Domaininstance or subclass of mathematical concept (Q24034552)
Exampleabsolute value (Q120812) → "unsigned" portion of a number
absolute value (Q120812) → distance of a number from zero

Motivation

It's the same of "mathematical concept defining formula" but expressed in natural language instead of mathematical expression.

It differs from the item description because the latter should be a short sentence used only to identify the item. Another difference is that a mathematical concept can have multiple definitions.

It should contain as few symbols as possible to be comprehensible by everyone. Malore (talk) 18:27, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Discussion

Opensofias
Tobias1984
Micru
Arthur Rubin
Cuvwb
TomT0m
Tylas
Physikerwelt
Lymantria
Bigbossfarin
Infovarius
Helder
PhilMINT
Malore
Nomen ad hoc
Lore.mazza51
Pictogram voting comment.svg Notified participants of WikiProject Mathematics

Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Sorry, but for me is exactly the same as the description. The Wikipedia article fills the function of disambiguate the possible interpretations or definitions of a formula. The item exists to show the metadata about the formula, not its interpretation, if someone is curious about the possible meanings of it, they should go to the Wikipedia article. Good contributions, Ederporto (talk) 23:48, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Also, this is so subjective. The quantity of symbols does not ensures the unserstanding, the choice of words is more dangerous than the use of symbols. Ederporto (talk) 23:53, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose this is what the description field is for. Also multilingual text (data type) does not exist. ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:35, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

@ArthurPSmith: They have differentt goals. The goal of the description field is to distinguish the item from similar ones, while the goal of this property is to give all the definitions of the concept. It is the same of "mathematical concept defining formula" (the other property I proposed) but in natural language instead of symbols. --Malore (talk) 21:41, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Wikidata is designed to store structured information, definitions of concepts in natural language are not structured. Descriptions can be used for that. − Pintoch (talk) 13:52, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

@Pintoch: I agree with you that Wikidata should store structured content, and maybe this property is not appropriate, but I think it would serve a different function than descriptions. In my opinion, descriptions (like aliases) are for identify items, not for define them, because otherwise they would need to be sourced.--Malore (talk) 02:19, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose -- JakobVoss (talk) 06:13, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

 Not done --Micru (talk) 16:56, 17 July 2018 (UTC)