Wikidata:Property proposal/development of anatomical structure
development of anatomical structure[edit]
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Natural science
| Description | biological development of this anatomical structure |
|---|---|
| Represents | anatomical structure development (Q14860201) |
| Data type | Item |
| Domain | instance of anatomical structure (Q4936952) |
| Allowed values | subclass of anatomical structure development (Q14860201) |
| Example | |
| Source | inverse relation of Gene Ontology (Q135085) and Relations Ontology (Q28729320) property "results_in_development_of" |
Motivation
Now there are a lot of items about anatomical structure development (Q14860201) imported from Gene Ontology (Q135085), but the tree of anatomical structure development (Q14860201) and that of anatomical structure (Q4936952) are not linked at all. As far as I know, no other ontology defines this relation, but the relations are almost self-evident and useful. The relation of this property is similar to history of topic (P2184). --Okkn (talk) 03:41, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
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Discussion
I suggest to flip the property around and generalize it to keep consistency with the existing GO relation: "results_in_development_of". Example "parahippocampal gyrus development" -> results_in_development_of -> parahippocampal gyrus (link, see the Neighborhood tab).
Notes about results_in_development_of: https://github.com/geneontology/annotation_extensions/blob/master/doc/results_in_development_of.md
This also exists in the Relations Ontology (Q28729320): http://www.ontobee.org/ontology/RO?iri=http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/RO_0002296
Gstupp (talk) 06:21, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
- @Gstupp: Thank you for informing me about the related property. I was overlooked this property because I was only saw GO terms on Ontobee.
- However, the relation of "results_in_development_of" is the inverse of my proposed property, and we can use facet of (P1269) or anatomical location (P927) to describe what "results_in_development_of" can link (cf. inverse relation of history of topic (P2184) is facet of (P1269)). I understand it is important to keep consistency with the existing GO relation, but I think that the inverse relation of "results_in_development_of" is the very thing we need to keep our data model consistent in Wikidata. --Okkn (talk) 11:16, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
- generally agree w/ Okkn comment--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:21, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
- I still think this should be generalized from exclusively dealing with anatomical structures. What about child development (Q407784) -> child (Q7569) ? Also, I'm not sure how "history of topic" relates to this, and I don't think "facet of" has a substantially similar meaning. Gstupp (talk) 20:09, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
- I don't mind generalizing the domain of this property, but simply "development" is such general wording that it could cause some troubles, so I initially restricted to "anatomical structure". Although I don't know why child development (Q407784) is instance of specialty (Q1047113), 【child (Q7569) → child development (Q407784)】 seems OK to me.
- Both "history of topic" and "development of anatomical structure" are properties linking main topic (country or anatomical structure) to subtopic (history or development of them). Of course "facet of" doesn't have exactly the same meaning as "results_in_development_of", but I just want to say that we have already had ways to link parahippocampal gyrus development (Q22298483) → parahippocampal gyrus (Q1545429), by using facet of (P1269) and/or anatomical location (P927). I think what seems to be lacking in Wikidata is the property linking parahippocampal gyrus (Q1545429) → parahippocampal gyrus development (Q22298483).
- However, I will also support introducing "results_in_development_of" and other GO properties into Wikidata. --Okkn (talk) 05:26, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
Support David (talk) 11:22, 25 January 2018 (UTC)- Support--Geoide (talk) 13:31, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
- Question: What is the need for creating the apparent inverse of an existing property? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:51, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
- That is because we have already had ways to link what "results_in_development_of" can link by using general properties anatomical location (P927) and/or facet of (P1269). And unlike Gene Ontology, we have both "biological process" and "anatomical structure" concepts internally, so we don't have to see the relationship from the point of view of "biological process", i.e. we can create a property whose subject is not "biological process" but "anatomical structure". I think the inverse property is natural and useful realation in Wikidata. --Okkn (talk) 05:26, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
@Ozzie10aaaa, Okkn, ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Geoide, Pigsonthewing, Gstupp: 
Done: development of anatomical structure (P4843). − Pintoch (talk) 13:26, 15 February 2018 (UTC)