Wikidata:Property proposal/National Gallery of Art ID

National Gallery of Art artwork ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work

   Done: National Gallery of Art artwork ID (P4683) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for an artwork or other object on the National Gallery of Art website
Represents	National Gallery of Art (Q214867)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	work of art (Q838948) or any relevant object
Allowed values	\d+
Example	Judith and Holofernes (Q3769182) → 1181 Le Pont Neuf (Q3828409) → 52202
Source	https://www.nga.gov/Collection/collection-search.html
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	Template:Arts links (Q45312151)
Formatter URL	http://www.nga.gov/content/ngaweb/Collection/art-object-page.$1.html
See also	National Gallery of Art artist ID (P2252)

Motivation

I guess this would be useful. Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Collection/National Gallery of Art has many lines. Thierry Caro (talk) 03:38, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

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Thierry Caro Fuzheado

Notified participants of WikiProject United States. Thierry Caro (talk) 03:38, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

•  Support David (talk) 07:22, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
•  Support external identifier (GLAM) John Samuel 09:51, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
•  Question So, are we minting a new property for every single museum with a website and a catalogue now? What are the criteria? (And yes, I know the NGA is not "every single museum", but that's not the point). Jheald (talk) 23:26, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

• As strange as it may seem, we already do cover pretty much every single museum… if one looks at sports halls of fame! There are more than 50 of them listed in Template:Sports halls of fame properties. When it comes to arts, we are conservative for the moment. Thierry Caro (talk) 11:47, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

• I see no problem with giving every museum with a website and a catalogue an identifier. ChristianKl (✉) 19:21, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

• The alternative would be described at URL (P973). I'm not sure which way is easier to maintain. --Marsupium (talk) 11:35, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

• Using described at URL (P973) means that the museum won't be able to use tools like Mix and Match for their data import. ChristianKl (✉) 17:14, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

• I wonder if doing a Mix'n'match import is somehow easier to find ID/URL values for 36 items without P973 (There might be a few left with non-http://www.nga.gov/content/ngaweb/Collection/art-object-page.* values.) than doing it without it; all the more so because matching just by label definitely shouldn't be done nor encouraged, it's rarely unambiguous.

I don't want to oppose this property, but I question if it makes things easier. --Marsupium (talk) 14:43, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

•  Support. YULdigitalpreservation (talk) 18:30, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
• @Thierry Caro, ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Jsamwrites, Jheald: @ChristianKl, Marsupium, YULdigitalpreservation:  Done ArthurPSmith (talk) 21:05, 21 December 2017 (UTC)