Wikidata:Property proposal/Chronicling America newspaper ID
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Chronicling America newspaper ID
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control
| Data type | External identifier |
|---|---|
| Domain | newspaper (Q11032) |
| Allowed values | sn[1-9]\d{7} |
| Example | |
| External links | Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt]. |
| Planned use | Add in values by hand until bot can be created to crawl through the LOC database |
| Formatter URL | https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/$1/ |
| Robot and gadget jobs | Bot should match and migrate data from LOC database |
Motivation
Newspapers are hard to disambiguate. We have OCLC numbers but the LOC uses a special page for newspapers using an identifier that is different from LCCN. RAN (talk) 15:56, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
Discussion
Comment Are these not Library of Congress authority ID (P244) or Library of Congress Control Number (LCCN) (bibliographic) (P1144)? (the site is not responding, so I cannot check.) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:41, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- I tried every variation of putting them in as "sn95071254" and "sn 95071254" and "sn_95071254" and they do not work. It seems that it is similar to LCCN but is not. The newspapers mentioned do not have an entry in LCCN or VIAF. It appears to be a new code just for newspapers. --RAN (talk) 03:44, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
- This documentation does indeed call them LCCns. They also seem to be used on https://www.loc.gov/newspapers/ . See [1] for example. Though when I try to put the two IDs from the proposal into the loc.gov url, it gives a 404 error. --Kam Solusar (talk) 16:52, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- In that case,
Support. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:48, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- In that case,
- It is a Library of Congress Control Number, but one used exclusively for newspapers and it is not in the Library of Congress Control Number database we use for people and places and organizations. The url needs to be formatted differently. It is an amazing resource with the inception and demise dates and name changes of newspapers. Sadly like most LOC databases, it is down way too many times. About 1 in 10 times I go to the LCCN database it is down. All the more reason to migrate the data here. --RAN (talk) 18:24, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- This documentation does indeed call them LCCns. They also seem to be used on https://www.loc.gov/newspapers/ . See [1] for example. Though when I try to put the two IDs from the proposal into the loc.gov url, it gives a 404 error. --Kam Solusar (talk) 16:52, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- I tried every variation of putting them in as "sn95071254" and "sn 95071254" and "sn_95071254" and they do not work. It seems that it is similar to LCCN but is not. The newspapers mentioned do not have an entry in LCCN or VIAF. It appears to be a new code just for newspapers. --RAN (talk) 03:44, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support David (talk) 15:02, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing, Kam Solusar, Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ), ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2: 
Done: Chronicling America newspaper ID (P4898). − Pintoch (talk) 16:19, 1 March 2018 (UTC)