User talk:Lymantria

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Best regards! Wiki13 talk 16:38, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Redirects[edit]

Hi. Could you explain me what is the sense to hold redirect pages on Wikidata after merging. I can't understand mechanism. Nothing links here and these pages are orphan. For example: one user will have a fantasy and will create 500 pages for one subject on different wiki. Another one will merge these pages. In this way we have 500 redirect pages wich are useless. For what? After deleting these pages can be useful for more sensible subjects in my opinion.
On polish translation of help page is after merging withdrawn item can be delete, send request with description merched with item.... I guess that it's mistake? Tommy Jantarek (talk) 06:09, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

External sources may link to the item that has become a redirect, so we cannot be sure that these are indeed "orphan". Deleted items will never be reused. See also Help:Redirects. Lymantria (talk) 08:55, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Why the page has been deleted?[edit]

It is a notable entity why this page has been deleted?  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mustips (talk • contribs).

It was not notable, because of lack of independent serious sources stating its notability. See Wikidata:Notability: "It refers to an instance of a clearly identifiable conceptual or material entity. The entity must be notable, in the sense that it can be described using serious and publicly available references". Lymantria (talk) 16:35, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Making wikidata items for commons categories[edit]

Hi@Lymantria: I see you are making wikidata items for commons categories. This is not helpful. When I write an article for "Cyathostemon", I expect to find the "Category:Cyathostemon" linked to the wikidata item "Cyathestemon" and not to a very different wikidata item. (When the ccommons category("Category:Cyathostemon") is linked to "Cyathostemon" a reader of the wikipedia article can find all the associated images, when they click on commons at the LHS) It would be helpful if you did not continue to do this. (I know the practice is widespread, but it is NOT helpful.) Regards, MargaretRDonald (talk) 19:31, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi @MargaretRDonald:, Please stop doing your changes. Commons categories are categories and they can be added to category items without the lack of helpfulness you are describing. See for instance w:Cremastocheilini, it:Cremastocheilini, nl:Cremastocheilini and no:Cremastocheilini. All have a commonslink at the LHS, while the commons category is linked to the category item by the use of category's main topic (P301) at Cremastocheilini (Q1252945), just as it should be in the ideal world. Your repairing is at best Wikipedia:If it ain't broke, don't fix it (Q11298231). Lymantria (talk) 05:29, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi @Lymantria: What you have pointed me to, is precisely what I would like. On the other hand Cyathostemon (Q17047770) and Category:Cyathostemon (Q18282608) where the commons category is attached to Category:Cyathostemon (Q18282608) is really not helpful but is apparently the result of a decision taken. See the discussion at User talk:Mike Peel# Making wikidata items for commons categories. So clearly I have to learn to live with this nuisance. MargaretRDonald (talk) 04:01, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
I don't see why it is not helpful, but indeed we'll have to deal with the decision taken. Lymantria (talk) 05:24, 8 July 2020 (UTC)