User talk:Bob08

Revi

Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Bob08/Archive 1 on 2020-09-03.

This edit is a clear transgression against WP policy regarding WP:Neutral and WP:Verifiability. Per RS the Regency is the modern Algerian state, a milsestone of the national developpement of Algeria and the very beginning of the Algerian modern identity shared by both Turks and locals.

Your political bias has no room here.

Algeria and regency of Algeria are two different Widata elements. Once again, Algeria does not exist before 1962. Please report this to anyone you want.

Планета Земля меньше Мира, потому что уже сейчас есть религия на МКС, которая Землёй не является. Просьба правильно называть элементы "<...> on the Earth". Traduction en ligne: la planète Terre est plus petite que le Monde, car il existe déjà une religion sur l'ISS qui n'est pas la Terre. Veuillez nommer correctement les éléments "<...> on the Earth".

Bonjour @Bob08, un petit rappel sur le style des descriptions adopté par la communauté de Wikidata: courtes et concises, neutres et sans point final. Merci.

Bonjour @Madamebiblio.

Je ne peux qu'être d'accord. Sur quels éléments ai-je mis des descriptions longues, non neutres et avec un point final ?

Merci .

Voici: Q13175669, Q757986, Q112876241, Q473889, Q600836, Q228368 et Q14204246.

OK, vu. Je regrette de ne pas avoir corrigé les soucis de description de certains éléments, mais il faut voir que j'ai surtout ôté des capitales aux libellés, comme cela est recommandé. Autant dire que j'ai modifié la forme, et non le fond. Il me semble que sans aller au bout, mes modifications vont dans le bon sens.

Wow, looks like we are both fixing the typo errors. Do you find them by using: Wikidata:Database reports/items with P569 greater than P570

Hi. Yes, I am using this report. I am going to fix other errors, so you can go on with P569 greater than P570.

Karel Sicha (Q95151151) and Josef Gerschon (Q61912800) and Václav Mach (Q95138276) need your attention, they are more complex conflation errors.

Hi @Bob08

I trust all is going smoothly on your end. As you may have noticed, I reverted your recent edits regarding citizenship. The context is specific to that period, and we do consider the nation, since 'Algérie Française' is not a political entity. We have already had this debate years ago. In this context, Algeria is mentioned as a nation. Each context is unique and has nothing to do with anachronism.

Regards

Puisque vous ne voulez pas parler français...

The Algerian has appeared in 1962. There is no specific context. Please be honnest.

Regards.

I used English as the language of communication here to ensure better traceability of the discussion, since I was uncertain about your proficiency in French. As previously mentioned, we can discuss nationality and the concept of French Algeria on a case-by-case basis. Algeria became independent in 1962, not "Appeared." If you are not well-versed in certain historical concepts, please refrain from asserting them falsely.

+ it has nothing to do with nationality. I would appreciate if you could provide an explanation regarding the nationality of those individuals. They were Muslim French citizens from Algeria, who were never fully regarded as French in terms of their identity, and held a unique status. I am open to engaging in a comprehensive debate on a case-by-case basis.

I do not say these people have the French citizenship. I affirm that the Algerian citizenship does not exist before 1962. This has nothing to do with the fact they are muslims from Algeria, and there is nothing unique.

To avoid edit wars, let's have a proper discussion here. Regards.

The notion of passports is not a strong argument, as passports are a relatively recent concept that did not exist centuries ago. We have numerous cases, such as Theophilus Presbyter, whose country of citizenship is listed as Germany, which is not accurate in reality.

Indeed, as mentioned in p27, it is stated clearly that 'the object is a country that recognizes the subject as its citizen,' while these particular cases were not recognized as French citizens.

I saw you reverted something, but there was no explanation. Looking at the diffs, I can't figure out what happened. What gives? :) --~~~~

The family name and the disambiguation were erroneously merged. Sorry for the absence of explanation.

That distinction seems arbitrary. What other meaning is there to Pušić than a surname? Any disambiguation list including topics named Pušić is in effect a list of people with the same name. --~~~~

I see now that the effect of these changes is that [[en:Pušić]] is disconnected from [[de:Pušić]], but that doesn't make functional sense. Can you fix that, please?

Please see Q27924673.

I don't know what that means or how it makes any difference here. Can you fix the functional problem?

en:Pušić is a disambiguation page

de:Pušić is a surname page.

Have you read them actually? The German one says ''Pušić ... ist der Familienname folgender Personen". It's also a surname list. This distinction is apparently artificial. Can you fix it?

Les libellés peuvent être utilisés comme titre d'une Infobox pour des articles correspondants dans les différents Wikipedia et doivent être en majuscules. C'est la description qui prend une minuscule en début.

C'est faux. Voir Help:Label/fr.

Règles

Les règles typographiques des libellés se résument en trois points :

1. le même libellé peut être utilisé pour plusieurs éléments, c'est la description de l'élément qui lève l’ambiguïté ;
2. le libellé débute par une minuscule, excepté s'il s'agit d'un nom propre ;
3. le libellé doit correspondre au nom le plus courant. Faites attention aux traductions linguistiques et aux pages spéciales de Wikipédia (espaces de noms) ;
4. l'orthographe du libellé doit correspondre à celui qui se trouve dans des références.

Ceci rend le libellé inutilisable dans une Infobox.

Je ne comprends pas.

Pour un titre d'infobox Wikipédia, la capitale est appliquée à la première lettre, même si c'est une minuscule dans Wikipédia.

D'où vous tenez cela?

Il suffit de regarder.

Pour exemple : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porte_dor%C3%A9e_(J%C3%A9rusalem). Le libellé Wikidata débute par un lettre de bas de casse et est repris avec une capitale dans l'infobox Monument.

Pout l'infobox Cyclone, de toute façon, je vois que le modèle va chercher le nom de la page Wikipédia (PAGENAME), et non le libellé Wikidata (Lfr). Il n'y d'ailleurs pas non plus d'utilité à préciser l'année du cyclone dans le titre de l'infobox (l'information figure déjà dans le titre de la page et dans les informations de l'infobox : apparition et dissipation).

OK mais c'est illogique.

Hello! Quand un roman a plusieurs auteurs renseignés, il semble que tes modifs fassent le tour des possibilités sans se mettre d'accord :) ou

Peut être lister les 3 auteurs dans la desc?

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This photo you added at https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q26763822&diff=prev&oldid=1886554007 is of her daughter Mary as clearly indicated in the file name. This isn't the first time you've misidentified a photo - please be more careful before you tag a photo as of somebody on Wikidata.