Property talk:P2043

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length
measured dimension of an object
Representslength (Q36253)
Data typeQuantity
Template parameter"length" in w:en:template:infobox lake
DomainAny object with spatial extent (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Allowed valuesAll positive one-dimensional values with a length unit (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Allowed unitsInstances of: unit of length
zeptometer (Q3270676), attometer (Q6003257), femtometer (Q208788), picometer (Q192274), nanometer (Q178674), micrometer (Q175821), millimeter (Q174789), centimeter (Q174728), decimeter (Q200323), meter (Q11573), kilometer (Q828224), foot (Q3710), inch (Q218593), mile (Q253276), yard (Q482798), nautical mile (Q93318), decameter (Q848856), thou (Q1165799), light-year (Q531), astronomical unit (Q1811) and parsec (Q12129)
ExampleTrans-Siberian railway (Q58767) → 9,289 kilometer
Tracking: sameno label (Q32085220)
Tracking: differencesno label (Q55283009)
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P2043 (Q20989811)
Tracking: local yes, WD noCategory:Length not in Wikidata, but available on Wikipedia (Q21037900)
See alsowidth (P2049), height (P2048), area (P2046), volume as quantity (P2234), perimeter (P2547), event distance (P3157), thickness (P2610), duration (P2047), diameter (P2386), vertical depth (P4511)
Lists
Proposal discussionProperty proposal/Archive/36#P2043
Current uses140,627
[create] Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here
Units: “zeptometer (Q3270676), attometer (Q6003257), femtometer (Q208788), picometer (Q192274), nanometer (Q178674), micrometer (Q175821), millimeter (Q174789), centimeter (Q174728), decimeter (Q200323), meter (Q11573), kilometer (Q828224), foot (Q3710), inch (Q218593), mile (Q253276), yard (Q482798), nautical mile (Q93318), decameter (Q848856), thou (Q1165799), light-year (Q531), astronomical unit (Q1811), parsec (Q12129): value unit must be one of listed. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2043#Units, SPARQL (new)
Conflicts with “instance of (P31): Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410), human (Q5): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2043#Conflicts with P31, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
Range from “0” to “+∞”: values should be in the range from “0” to “+∞”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2043#Range, SPARQL (new)
This property is being used by:

Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Constraints[edit]

Discussion[edit]

What about using as distance between points?[edit]

Avatar6 (talk) 07:58, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

@Avatar6: Good question, see for instance its usage on marathon (Q40244). 42.195 km is not the dimension of the object “marathon”. It is the distance between the start and finish line of a marathon. And while the English alias “distance” might perhaps allow such a statement, this is not the case for the German aliases which only cover physical dimensions of an object. What to do? —MisterSynergy (talk) 08:04, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
Indeed, I can see a case for splitting length and distance. We have many specialised properties, e.g. distance from Earth (P2583), located on linear feature (P795), vehicle range (P2073), angular distance (P2212), apoapsis (P2243), wheelbase (P3039), clearance (P2793), stroke (P2557), takeoff roll (P2430) for distance or length, but only the one generic. The English description, "measured dimension of an object" also strongly implies it should not be used for distance. Thryduulf (talk) 00:36, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
The distinction between dimension and distance was even made during P2043’s proposal, but somehow it got lost. Shall I just go to property proposal to ask for a distance property? —MisterSynergy (talk) 05:29, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
Go for it. Thryduulf (talk) 12:30, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
Wikidata:Property proposal/distanceMisterSynergy (talk) 17:34, 9 August 2016 (UTC)