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:Well, we do have {{P|112}} which is for example used in {{Q|52}}. Regards, [[User:Vogone|<span style="color:#0E0;font-weight:bold;">Vogone</span>]]&nbsp;<small><small>[[User talk:Vogone|<span style="color:#1E90FF">'''talk'''</span>]]</small></small> 14:17, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
:Well, we do have {{P|112}} which is for example used in {{Q|52}}. Regards, [[User:Vogone|<span style="color:#0E0;font-weight:bold;">Vogone</span>]]&nbsp;<small><small>[[User talk:Vogone|<span style="color:#1E90FF">'''talk'''</span>]]</small></small> 14:17, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
:{{ec}} This is true. {{P|112}} would probably be applicable&mdash;I see that it's used on {{Q|52}} for Jimbo and Larry, for instance. But, unless there's been a consensus I'm not aware of, the jury is still out on whether it's acceptable to create items for every possible property value. Otherwise we'd have to have items on every person alive, thanks to the parent/child/sibling properties.''' —&nbsp;[[User:PinkAmpersand|<u><font color="000">PinkAmpers</font></u>]]'''[[User talk:PinkAmpersand|'''<u><font color="FF1493">&#38;</font></u>'''<font color="000"><sup>(<u>''Je vous invite à me parler''</u>)</sup></font>]] 14:22, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
:{{ec}} This is true. {{P|112}} would probably be applicable&mdash;I see that it's used on {{Q|52}} for Jimbo and Larry, for instance. But, unless there's been a consensus I'm not aware of, the jury is still out on whether it's acceptable to create items for every possible property value. Otherwise we'd have to have items on every person alive, thanks to the parent/child/sibling properties.''' —&nbsp;[[User:PinkAmpersand|<u><font color="000">PinkAmpers</font></u>]]'''[[User talk:PinkAmpersand|'''<u><font color="FF1493">&#38;</font></u>'''<font color="000"><sup>(<u>''Je vous invite à me parler''</u>)</sup></font>]] 14:22, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

A historical comment on Beta- / Nukawiki: '''Nukawiki was the most anarchist wiki ever.''' Every contributor was administrator and bureaucrat to be able to see and translate all parts of MediaWiki. As far as I can remember from my early time there no abuse / trolling was experienced there. People where atracted / invited via irc chat. See [https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Log&offset=&limit=500&type=rights&user=%D7%9C%D7%A2%D7%A8%D7%99+%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%94%D7%90%D7%A8%D7%98&page= all new users receiving bureaucrat rights] and an earlier [https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=rights&user=Gangleri&page=&year=&month=-1 log]. [[User:לערי ריינהארט|לערי ריינהארט]] ([[User talk:לערי ריינהארט|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 15:09, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

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לערי ריינהארט

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Hi! The transcription of « לערי ריינהארט » is « lɛʁi ʁɑjnhɑʁt ». I started at WMF projects as user "gangleri" as admin and / or bureaucrat at some minority languages community as eo:, yi:, mi: but also at ro:. I am still an admin and bureaucrat at test.Wikipedia. Together with Niklas Laxström I starting building the "Betawiki" community (now https://translatewiki.net/) and worked on BiDirectional testing for MediaZilla. About two years ago I started working on AC (authority control issues) and "VIAF_inter_project_linking".
I would like to be able to guide language communities as eo:, yi: etc. --לערי ריינהארט (talk) 20:00, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Votes

  1.  Oppose, been here under month and some canvassing. Otherwise not problems. I just can't support you yet, because you're still so new on Wikidata. --Stryn (talk) 20:18, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    I am not an native English speaker. For other non English speakers some links: canvassing (Q1033959) and http://www.thefreedictionary.com/canvassing לערי ריינהארט (talk) 00:00, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't understand. Asking people to support you on your RFA is not acceptable, and turns this into a popularity contest. --Rschen7754 00:12, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    To be honest, he didn't ask Niklas to vote for anything. But I agree that advertising RFPs to uninvolved users on other projects is rather unacceptable. Regards, Vogone talk 00:15, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    True, it is implied though. --Rschen7754 00:16, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  2.  Oppose canvassing is not appropriate. --Rschen7754 20:25, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  3.  Oppose I can look past the fact the user is new with out any doubt. The fact Stryn pointed out canvassing to me is a concern. With this, what the user said in their nomination shows they have no need for administrator tools to be honest. Due to this, I took a quick look over the user and still saw no need for administrator tools. Wikidata has low administrator standards, so low that users who don't even need the tools sometimes pass, which is evident from the fact we only started inactivity desysop two/three months ago and so far have lost around 5-10 sysops from it. So that is my basis for opposing. A candidate who does not need the tools, should not expect to pass nor should expect support. John F. Lewis (talk) 20:26, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  4.  Oppose (edit conflict) per the canvassing, lack of RFD work, and lack of tenure. --Jakob (Scream about the things I've broken) 20:27, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  5.  Oppose Canvassing and doesn't seem to need the tools. Ajraddatz (Talk) 21:03, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  6.  Oppose I have to oppose per the above. You do not need adminship to nurture a community. --Jasper Deng (talk) 21:36, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  7.  Oppose per above --DangSunM (talk) 21:37, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  •  Question Do you understand the notability policy? In the message to Nikerabbit pointed out by Stryn, you linked to this item that you created on him. While Niklas is a nice guy, I don't believe there's an article on him on any edition of Wikipedia, nor were there any incoming links. — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 12:10, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • A good point!
      • Please notive Aviv Geffen (Q733103) and the relatives there; you may see some generations.
      • I went to school where Herta Müller (Q38049) worked as a teacher in Romania. Some years ago I added wherever available the names of the translator from more then a dozen languages to her books at LibraryThing:Herta Müller including AC records (VIAF identifiers and WKP links) for the translators whereever possible. Are these people "notable"?
      • I remember the time where tha Wikipedia articles from an earyl Mediawiki developer Erik Möller (Q577729) was deleted from de.Wikipedis because of some reasons not to be discussed here.
    • Many years ago Niklas and I started to work toghether benefiting from each others skills. Today some persons may not understand what is notable on Niklas work. It depends on what they know about it. Regards לערי ריינהארט (talk) 12:39, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
        • I don't disagree with you that Niklas's work is notable. We have an item on translatewiki.net, for instance. It's just that he doesn't meet our notability policy. If you have a problem with this, you can try to change how we define notability, but it's inappropriate to create pages contrary to policy.

          I'm afraid I don't really understand the rest of your reply. I'm not sure what these other people have to do with my question. (Erik Möller has an item because 12 Wikipedia editions have articles on him, for instance.) Are you having trouble expressing yourself in English? If so, feel free to reply in German; I have some German neighbors who I'm sure I can get to translate for me. (Yiddish works too. It'll give me an incentive to call my grandmother.) — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 13:07, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Do we have some property to show a creator of the website? If yes, then we could use translatewiki.net (Q9376349) → created by: Niklas Laxström. --Stryn (talk) 13:59, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, we do have founded by (P112) which is for example used in Wikipedia (Q52). Regards, Vogone talk 14:17, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) This is true. founded by (P112) would probably be applicable—I see that it's used on Wikipedia (Q52) for Jimbo and Larry, for instance. But, unless there's been a consensus I'm not aware of, the jury is still out on whether it's acceptable to create items for every possible property value. Otherwise we'd have to have items on every person alive, thanks to the parent/child/sibling properties. — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 14:22, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A historical comment on Beta- / Nukawiki: Nukawiki was the most anarchist wiki ever. Every contributor was administrator and bureaucrat to be able to see and translate all parts of MediaWiki. As far as I can remember from my early time there no abuse / trolling was experienced there. People where atracted / invited via irc chat. See all new users receiving bureaucrat rights and an earlier log. לערי ריינהארט (talk) 15:09, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]