Wikidata:WikiProject University degrees/Discussions

From Wikidata
Jump to navigation Jump to search

Home

  

Items & Properties

  

Reports

  

Queries

  

Discussions

  

This is a place for discussing things that we have to solve! Please use headings to divide up topics!

New properties[edit]

  • Don't we need a property "awards degree" for an institution of higher learning?
  • Can/should we enter in qualifiers for the connection between university and study program (e.g. intended duration of the program)?
  • Should we have a property to define "former names" of an institution (with qualifier property of from/until)?
    • Did anyone find a property for this? I can't image that there is none but we can't find any appropriate one. Should we suggest a new property for this? --ydkn (talk) 13:32, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is there any property we could use to add the class of the degree as a statement e.g. A3, A5 or any other idea how to encode this?
  • How do you go ahead and model if a University goes under one name but has multiple Locations, who is conferring the degree and how are the locations managed, is each university its own entity or is it part of one greater university / organisation ? --Instrument group
    • Do you have an example of this? Without more context I would suggest that the university is conferring the degree and the locations could be the different institutions? --ydkn (talk) 13:36, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • State universities, for example in Costa Rica, have many different locations. Only some degrees are granted at particular locations. A university could have only master's degrees awarded at location A and bachelor and master's degrees at location B. But that is a good point that perhaps only the "mother institution" is the one that is awarding the degrees. --WiseWoman (talk) 23:14, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Dealing with all the current entities[edit]

Oxford wants to be special[edit]

  • There are two "Master of Arts" degrees given in Wikidata. The one Master of Arts (Q2091008) refers to a Master's degree in the fields of humanities and social sciences and the other Master of Arts (Q3297864) refers to an academic degree granted by the Universities of Oxford, Cambridge and Dublin. When clicking on the links of the second Master's degree the user can see some historic names (such as Lewis Carroll and Charles Darwin) that received these degrees. Maybe these are historical degrees. I suggest that it might be good to change the name of the second Master of Arts with a more historical reference. --Schoko und Lisa (talk) 16:07, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Empty academic degrees?[edit]

Sorry, you need to look at all of the entered languages, the first one is in Catalan: "màster en Administració Pública i Direcció d'Empreses" I just added the English translation and *poof*, it is not longer empty :) --WiseWoman (talk) 21:17, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please be careful when creating new items for degree subjects[edit]

Hi!

This project is exciting! However, please be careful when creating new items, especially for degree subjects:

I assume you have tried to reconcile topics against the "academic discipline" type or something like this, and created new items for all values which did not have a match. But the issue is that basically anything can be an academic topic, so many relevant items are not marked as instance of (P31)academic discipline (Q11862829), therefore they do not show up in the reconciliation results. I would recommend reconciling without any type constraint.

In general, if you are new to Wikidata and its tools, I would recommend not mass-creating any new items first.

Cheers, − Pintoch (talk) 14:38, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

PS: I think this page should be a talk page (it should be at Wikidata talk:WikiProject University degrees) − Pintoch (talk) 14:38, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Pintoch, thanks for the input! Yes, this should probably be a real discussion page, it kind of grew during the heat of the project work. We discovered a lot of work that is necessary to continue this project. I teach the course in semantic modelling in the summer only, so this will be dormant over the winter. I hope to get an new, enthusiastic group of students for the summer term 2019 and we can clean up and continue this project. Any contributions by others are quite welcome! --WiseWoman (talk) 23:18, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Modelling honours degrees[edit]

Double Degree[edit]

There is an item for double degree double degree (Q716855), and the AnonymousAmbiguousAlligators made an academic degree out of it. This can be modelled by: 

educated at (P69) -> Some_institution
           academic degree (P512) -> Bachelor of Science (Q787674)
           academic degree (P512) -> double degree (Q716855)  
           academic major (P812) -> computer science (Q21198)
           academic major (P812) -> theology (Q34178)

I would also think that 

           academic degree (P512) -> honours degree (Q10862985)

would fit in here as well.

This degree Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery (Q13948235) is modeled with two hasPart, that are also degrees.

Double Major[edit]

We the AnonymousAmbiguousAlligators currently proposing a new property "double major".

You all are welcome to discuss with us the necessity of this property and support if you like so hopefully we soon also can model a lot of double major study programs correctly in the Wikidata.

Double Major Proposal

Kind regards

AnonymousAmbiguousAlligators (talk) 19:16, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Joint Degree[edit]

And then there is a degree awarded by more than one university. The group working with Finland found one degree program that has 3 universities defined for the first year of the Master and 5 for the second year. No idea how we go about modelling this! At some point you just have to give up. --WiseWoman (talk) 19:59, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cambridge colleges in 'educated at' statements[edit]

When listing a person's undergraduate degree from Cambridge, sometimes we're listing them as educated at (P69) the university (examples), and sometimes at their college (examples). Would it be reasonable to use location (P276) to indicate the college (example)? I know that's not the original intention of that property, but I can't think of a better one. T.Shafee(evo&evo) (talk) 11:52, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also asked at Property_talk:P69. T.Shafee(evo&evo) (talk) 03:50, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Retrieved from "https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:WikiProject_University_degrees/Discussions&oldid=1320657659"