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Interlingual links of main page of the wiktionary in Lombard
Why the interlingual links of the main page of Lombard wiktionary do not work? Is there anyone able to solve the problem?--Gat lombart (talk) 15:32, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
- Is it just the main page? Do some other pages like help pages work? --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 10:32, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Lydia Pintscher (WMDE): Non-mainspace pages work, see for example wikt:lmo:Wikizzionari:Portal de la comunità or wikt:lmo:Jut:Guida essenzial. Other mainspace pages on Wiktionaries, however, don’t use Wikidata, they use mw:Extension:Cognate instead. This means that mainspace on Wiktionaries is not among the namespaces where sitelinks are expected (so that Special:UnconnectedPages isn’t full of mainspace pages, the Add links doesn’t appear there etc.), and unfortunately this also means that the interlanguage links don’t appear even if the page is connected to Wikidata. Could maybe Wikibase be modified so that the interlanguage links appear even on pages in namespaces where they aren’t expected if the page is connected to Wikidata? It’s been connected for a reason, after all. If doing so on all pages has a too large performance impact, at least on main pages, as they’re always expected to have interlanguage links, in whichever namespace they are. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 19:53, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hmmmm. That already does work, however. Look for example at Spanish and French Wiktionary's main page. They both get their main page sitelinks from the Wikidata Item. You can check for example here: https://es.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Wikcionario:Portada&action=info#Page_properties and here: https://fr.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Wiktionnaire:Page_d%E2%80%99accueil&action=info#Page_properties Compare that to https://lmo.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Pagina_principala&action=info#Page_properties. I tried seeing if there is any page overwriting or suppressing the language links for the main page on Lombard Wiktionary locally but I can't find anything because I don't understand enough of the language. Is this maybe something that can help you investigate further? --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 16:23, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Lydia Pintscher (WMDE): Look at the titles—the Spanish and French main pages are in the project namespace, which, as I wrote above, works on Lombard Wiktionary as well. Choosing a few main pages from Q5296#sitelinks-wiktionary that are in the main namespace, Afrikaans, Belarusian, Divehi, Hebrew, Kurdish, Oromo, Albanian and Zulu don’t have Wikidata item ID in page info either. (Some of them do have interlanguage links, but these are thanks to local wikitext interlanguage links, not Wikidata.) —Tacsipacsi (talk) 17:56, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Tacsipacsi Urgh you're right. Sorry I missed that. Alright. Does anything speak against Lombard Wiktionary doing one of the things these other Wiktionaries are doing? As much as I'd like it to be different I don't think we'll be able to spend time on a more complex special-casing for this unfortunately. -- Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 17:06, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
- I am sysop on Lombard wiktionary. If I can help you in something about Lombard language you can ask me--Gat lombart (talk) 21:31, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
- Can't it be helpful reporting a bug to phabricator?--Gat lombart (talk) 21:33, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot for the offer, @Gat lombart :) The ticket at phab:T210784 should be sufficient. Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 09:21, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Can't it be helpful reporting a bug to phabricator?--Gat lombart (talk) 21:33, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Lydia Pintscher (WMDE): I can’t speak on behalf of Lombard Wiktionary, but since many wikis are affected (about two thirds of Wiktionary main pages are in the main namespace if my query
[...document.querySelectorAll('div[data-wb-sitelinks-group="wiktionary"] .wikibase-sitelinkview-page a')].map(a => a.title).filter(t => t.indexOf(':') === -1).length / document.querySelectorAll('div[data-wb-sitelinks-group="wiktionary"] .wikibase-sitelinkview-page a').length
is correct), I think it should be fixed in software instead of working it around on over a hundred wikis. I found phab:T210784, which seems to be the same root cause. (By the way, why are you here, Lydia? Isn’t Second Day of Christmas (Q15113728) a holiday in Berlin as well? Merry Christmas anyway!) —Tacsipacsi (talk) 00:30, 27 December 2021 (UTC)- @Tacsipacsi: Haha yes. But you know how it is with the wikis. They never sleep ;-) Happy New Year!
- As for fixing the underlying issue: Yes I agree this would absolutely be better. I'm just being realistic that this is not something I can currently prioritize very highly. Too many things to do :( It sucks. Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 09:23, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- I am sysop on Lombard wiktionary. If I can help you in something about Lombard language you can ask me--Gat lombart (talk) 21:31, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Tacsipacsi Urgh you're right. Sorry I missed that. Alright. Does anything speak against Lombard Wiktionary doing one of the things these other Wiktionaries are doing? As much as I'd like it to be different I don't think we'll be able to spend time on a more complex special-casing for this unfortunately. -- Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 17:06, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Lydia Pintscher (WMDE): Look at the titles—the Spanish and French main pages are in the project namespace, which, as I wrote above, works on Lombard Wiktionary as well. Choosing a few main pages from Q5296#sitelinks-wiktionary that are in the main namespace, Afrikaans, Belarusian, Divehi, Hebrew, Kurdish, Oromo, Albanian and Zulu don’t have Wikidata item ID in page info either. (Some of them do have interlanguage links, but these are thanks to local wikitext interlanguage links, not Wikidata.) —Tacsipacsi (talk) 17:56, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hmmmm. That already does work, however. Look for example at Spanish and French Wiktionary's main page. They both get their main page sitelinks from the Wikidata Item. You can check for example here: https://es.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Wikcionario:Portada&action=info#Page_properties and here: https://fr.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Wiktionnaire:Page_d%E2%80%99accueil&action=info#Page_properties Compare that to https://lmo.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Pagina_principala&action=info#Page_properties. I tried seeing if there is any page overwriting or suppressing the language links for the main page on Lombard Wiktionary locally but I can't find anything because I don't understand enough of the language. Is this maybe something that can help you investigate further? --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 16:23, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Lydia Pintscher (WMDE): Non-mainspace pages work, see for example wikt:lmo:Wikizzionari:Portal de la comunità or wikt:lmo:Jut:Guida essenzial. Other mainspace pages on Wiktionaries, however, don’t use Wikidata, they use mw:Extension:Cognate instead. This means that mainspace on Wiktionaries is not among the namespaces where sitelinks are expected (so that Special:UnconnectedPages isn’t full of mainspace pages, the Add links doesn’t appear there etc.), and unfortunately this also means that the interlanguage links don’t appear even if the page is connected to Wikidata. Could maybe Wikibase be modified so that the interlanguage links appear even on pages in namespaces where they aren’t expected if the page is connected to Wikidata? It’s been connected for a reason, after all. If doing so on all pages has a too large performance impact, at least on main pages, as they’re always expected to have interlanguage links, in whichever namespace they are. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 19:53, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
Missing language options
Where a language label is required to label a string (such as on 'title' or 'first line'), could you please expand the list of options to accept any valid language code from the IANA subtag registry (browsable via the BCP47 language subtag lookup app)? Many smaller languages are missing from the list of available options when editing Wikidata, ranging from Diuxi-Tilantongo Mixtec to Old French. AndrewNJ (talk) 06:37, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
- Hello @AndrewNJ:, we can add new language codes for monolingual text on request, if you explain the use you would make of it. Please see Help:Monolingual text languages, especially the "Getting a language code added" section. On this Phabricator board, in the "Wikidata (monolingual text)" column, you can see some pending requests. Let us know if you need support. Lea Lacroix (WMDE) (talk) 15:34, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
Does Wikidata test instance work properly?
Hi, since days I fail to edit items on Wikidata test instance. It may be due to my own inability, however, I would just like to be sure, that it's not a general problem. I already asked in project chat but got no answer. I was asked to bring up the question here. see: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat -> permission to wikidata test instance? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/Orcbot#Orcbot
This is my config file:
{ "instance": "https://test.wikidata.org", "credentials": { "https://test.wikidata.org": { "username": "bot@bot", "password": ".." } } }
this is the statement to edit the test instance using wikibase-cli:
wb create-entity item.json
this is the beginning of the error message:
{ permissiondenied: permissiondenied: You do not have the permissions needed to carry out this action. at requestError (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/wikibase-cli/node_modules/wikibase-edit/lib/request/parse_response_body.js:18:15) at module.exports (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/wikibase-cli/node_modules/wikibase-edit/lib/request/parse_response_body.js:11:33) at process._tickCallback (internal/process/next_tick.js:68:7) url: https://test.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbeditentity&format=json response status: 200 }
Thank you very much in advance! --Eva (talk) 13:09, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
- Test Wikidata is supposed to work in general, and testwikidata:Special:RecentChanges also shows some edits by others. I’m not sure why you would get a permissiondenied error; can you paste your
item.json
and more of the error message somewhere (e.g. https://paste.toolforge.org/)? Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE) (talk) 15:19, 19 January 2022 (UTC)- Hey @Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE): here you can find the complete error message: https://paste.toolforge.org/view/0d87d3e6
- This is the item.json: https://paste.toolforge.org/view/751ac45a
- Thank you! Eva (talk) 10:20, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- @EvaSeidlmayer Are you maybe using a bot password that doesn’t include the “Create, edit, and move pages” grant? Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE) (talk) 11:04, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Actually, this was the reason! So easy! Thank you!!! Eva (talk) 13:41, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Great! :) Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE) (talk) 17:33, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Actually, this was the reason! So easy! Thank you!!! Eva (talk) 13:41, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- @EvaSeidlmayer Are you maybe using a bot password that doesn’t include the “Create, edit, and move pages” grant? Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE) (talk) 11:04, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
I think that this discussion is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, don't hesitate to replace this template with your comment. Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE) (talk) 17:33, 20 January 2022 (UTC) |
1,500 character limit on strings
Hi - I have been adding various properties to all Public General Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom (Q105774620), Act of the Scottish Parliament (Q18009506) and so on, and I have run into the 1,500 character limit on strings when adding the official name (P1448) (or "long title") to a few Acts, because they're extremely long. These are (largest to smallest):
Policing and Crime Act 2017 (Q24083501) - 2,818 characters |
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An Act to make provision for collaboration between the emergency services; to make provision about the handling of police complaints and other matters relating to police conduct and to make further provision about the Independent Police Complaints Commission; to make provision for super-complaints about policing; to make provision for the investigation of concerns about policing raised by whistle-blowers; to make provision about police discipline; to make provision about police inspection; to make provision about the powers of police civilian staff and police volunteers; to remove the powers of the police to appoint traffic wardens; to enable provision to be made to alter police ranks; to make provision about the Police Federation; to make provision in connection with the replacement of the Association of Chief Police Officers with the National Police Chiefs' Council; to make provision about the system for bail after arrest but before charge; to make provision about the retention of biometric material; to make provision to enable greater use of modern technology at police stations; to make other amendments to the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984; to amend the powers of the police under the Mental Health Act 1983; to extend the powers of the police in relation to maritime enforcement; to make provision for cross-border enforcement; to make provision about the powers of the police to require removal of disguises; to make provision about deputy police and crime commissioners and the Deputy Mayor for Policing and Crime; to make provision to enable changes to the names of police areas; to make provision about the regulation of firearms and pyrotechnic articles; to make provision about the licensing of alcohol; to make provision about the implementation and enforcement of financial sanctions; to amend the Police Act 1996 to make further provision about police collaboration; to make provision about the powers of the National Crime Agency; to make provision for requiring arrested persons to provide details of nationality; to make provision for requiring defendants in criminal proceedings to provide details of nationality and other information; to make provision about the seizure etc of invalid travel documents; to make provision for pardons for convictions etc for certain abolished offences; to make provision to protect the anonymity of victims of forced marriage; to increase the maximum sentences of imprisonment for certain offences of putting people in fear of violence etc; to make provision to combat the sexual exploitation of children and to protect children and vulnerable adults from harm; to make provision about coroners' duties in respect of deaths in state detention; to make provision about the powers of litter authorities in Scotland; and for connected purposes. |
Local Government and Housing Act 1989 (Q100160703) - 2,512 characters |
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An Act to make provision with respect to the members, officers and other staff and the procedure of local authorities; to amend Part III of the Local Government Act 1974 and Part II of the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1975 and to provide for a national code of local government conduct; to make further provision about the finances and expenditure of local authorities (including provision with respect to housing subsidies) and about companies in which local authorities have interests; to make provision for and in connection with renewal areas, grants towards the cost of improvement and repair of housing accommodation and the carrying out of works of maintenance, repair and improvement; to amend the Housing Act 1985 and Part III of the Local Government Finance Act 1982; to make amendments of and consequential upon Parts I, II and IV of the Housing Act 1988; to amend the Local Government Finance Act 1988 and the Abolition of Domestic Rates Etc. (Scotland) Act 1987 and certain enactments relating, as respects Scotland, to rating and valuation, and to provide for the making of grants; to make provision with respect to the imposition of charges by local authorities; to make further provision about certain existing grants and about financial assistance to and planning by local authorities in respect of emergencies; to amend sections 102 and 211 of the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973; to amend the Local Land Charges Act 1975; to enable local authorities in Wales to be known solely by Welsh language names; to provide for the transfer of new town housing stock; to amend certain of the provisions of the Housing (Scotland) Act 1987 relating to a secure tenant's right to purchase his house; to amend section 47 of the Race Relations Act 1976; to confer certain powers on the Housing Corporation, Housing for Wales and Scottish Homes; to make provision about security of tenure for certain tenants under long tenancies; to provide for the making of grants and giving of guarantees in respect of certain activities carried on in relation to the construction industry; to provide for the repeal of certain enactments relating to improvement notices, town development and education support grants; to make, as respects Scotland, further provision in relation to the phasing of progression to registered rent for houses let by housing associations or Scottish Homes and in relation to the circumstances in which rent increases under assured tenancies may be secured; and for connected purposes. |
Environmental Protection Act 1990 (Q5381151) - 2,429 characters |
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An Act to make provision for the improved control of pollution arising from certain industrial and other processes; to re-enact the provisions of the Control of Pollution Act 1974 relating to waste on land with modifications as respects the functions of the regulatory and other authorities concerned in the collection and disposal of waste and to make further provision in relation to such waste; to restate the law defining statutory nuisances and improve the summary procedures for dealing with them, to provide for the termination of the existing controls over offensive trades or businesses and to provide for the extension of the Clean Air Acts to prescribed gases; to amend the law relating to litter and make further provision imposing or conferring powers to impose duties to keep public places clear of litter and clean; to make provision conferring powers in relation to trolleys abandoned on land in the open air; to amend the Radioactive Substances Act 1960; to make provision for the control of genetically modified organisms; to make provision for the abolition of the Nature Conservancy Council and for the creation of councils to replace it and discharge the functions of that Council and, as respects Wales, of the Countryside Commission; to make further provision for the control of the importation, exportation, use, supply or storage of prescribed substances and articles and the importation or exportation of prescribed descriptions of waste; to confer powers to obtain information about potentially hazardous substances; to amend the law relating to the control of hazardous substances on, over or under land; to amend section 107(6) of the Water Act 1989 and sections 31(7)(a), 31A(2)(c)(i) and 32(7)(a) of the Control of Pollution Act 1974; to amend the provisions of the Food and Environment Protection Act 1985 as regards the dumping of waste at sea; to make further provision as respects the prevention of oil pollution from ships; to make provision for and in connection with the identification and control of dogs; to confer powers to control the burning of crop residues; to make provision in relation to financial or other assistance for purposes connected with the environment; to make provision as respects superannuation of employees of the Groundwork Foundation and for remunerating the chairman of the Inland Waterways Amenity Advisory Council; and for purposes connected with those purposes. |
Criminal Justice Act 1988 (Q5185560) - 2,327 characters |
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An Act to make fresh provision for extradition; to amend the rules of evidence in criminal proceedings; to provide for the reference by the Attorney General of certain questions relating to sentencing to the Court of Appeal; to amend the law with regard to the jurisdiction and powers of criminal courts, the collection, enforcement and remission of fines imposed by coroners, juries, supervision orders, the detention of children and young persons, probation and the probation service, criminal appeals, anonymity in cases of rape and similar cases, orders under sections 4 and 11 of the Contempt of Court Act 1981 relating to trials on indictment, orders restricting the access of the public to the whole or any part of a trial on indictment or to any proceedings ancillary to such a trial and orders restricting the publication of any report of the whole or any part of a trial on indictment or any such ancillary proceedings, the alteration of names of petty sessions areas, officers of inner London magistrates' courts and the costs and expenses of prosecution witnesses and certain other persons; to make fresh provision for the payment of compensation by the Criminal Injuries Compensation Board; to make provision for the payment of compensation for a miscarriage of justice which has resulted in a wrongful conviction; to create an offence of torture and an offence of having an article with a blade or point in a public place; to create further offences relating to weapons; to create a summary offence of possession of an indecent photograph of a child; to amend the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 in relation to searches, computer data about fingerprints and bail for persons in customs detention; to make provision in relation to the taking of body samples by the police in Northern Ireland; to amend the Bail Act 1976; to give a justice of the peace power to authorise entry and search of premises for offensive weapons; to provide for the enforcement of the Video Recordings Act 1984 by officers of a weights and measures authority and in Northern Ireland by officers of the Department of Economic Development; to extend to the purchase of easements and other rights over land the power to purchase land conferred on the Secretary of State by section 36 of the Prison Act 1952; and for connected purposes. |
Local Government etc. (Scotland) Act 1994 (Q3258386) - 2,291 characters |
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An Act to make provision with respect to local government and the functions of local authorities; to make amendments in relation to local government finance, local authority accounts and the records of local authorities; to establish a Strathclyde Passenger Transport Authority for the purposes of the Transport Act 1968; to provide for the establishment of new water and sewerage authorities; to provide for the establishment of a council to represent the interests of customers and potential customers of those new authorities; to provide for the vesting in those new authorities of the property, rights and liabilities of the Central Scotland Water Development Board and of such property, rights and liabilities of regional and islands councils as those councils have as water authorities, as providers of sewerage and in relation to dealing with the contents of sewers; to provide for the dissolution of that Board; to cancel certain obligations to contribute towards expenses which have been incurred by local authorities in making provision for sewerage or disposal of sewage in rural localities; to create an office of Principal Reporter and transfer to him the functions of reporters to children's hearings; to establish a body to facilitate the performance by the Principal Reporter of his functions; to amend the Social Work (Scotland) Act 1968 in relation to children's hearings; to amend the procedure for making byelaws under section 121 of the Civic Government (Scotland) Act 1982; to transfer to local authorities responsibility for fixing and reviewing polling districts and polling places in Parliamentary elections; to amend section 21 of the Self-Governing Schools etc. (Scotland) Act 1989; to amend the law relating to roads and the placing of traffic signs on roads; to make amendments in relation to valuation and rating; to abolish the Scottish Valuation Advisory Council; to empower the Strathclyde Passenger Transport Authority to guarantee certain obligations; to empower local authorities to make grants to ethnic minorities; to confer on local authorities the function of promoting economic development; to provide for the establishment of area tourist boards; to make amendments in relation to lieutenancies; all as respects Scotland; and for connected purposes. |
Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1982 (Q65069414) - 2,176 characters |
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An Act to make amendments for England and Wales of provisions of that part of the law relating to local authorities or highways which is commonly amended by local Acts; to make provision for the control of sex establishments; to make further provision for the control of refreshment premises and for consultation between local authorities in England and Wales and fire authorities with regard to fire precautions for buildings and caravan sites; to repeal the Theatrical Employers Registration Acts 1925 and 1928; to make further provision as to the enforcement of section 8 of the Public Utilities Street Works Act 1950 and sections 171 and 174 of the Highways Act 1980; to make provision in connection with the computerisation of local land charges registers; to make further provision in connection with the acquisition of land and rights over land by boards constituted in pursuance of section 1 of the Town and Country Planning Act 1971 or reconstituted in pursuance of Schedule 17 to the Local Government Act 1972; to exclude from the definition of "construction or maintenance work" in section 20 of the Local Government, Planning and Land Act 1980 work undertaken by local authorities and development bodies pursuant to certain agreements with the Manpower Services Commission which specify the work to be undertaken and under which the Commission agrees to pay the whole or part of the cost of the work so specified; to define "year" for the purposes of Part III of the said Act of 1980; to amend section 140 of the Local Government Act 1972 and to provide for the insurance by local authorities of persons voluntarily assisting probation committees; to make provision for controlling nuisance and disturbance on educational premises; to amend section 137 of the Local Government Act 1972; to make further provision as to arrangements made by local authorities under the Employment and Training Act 1973; to extend the duration of certain powers to assist industry or employment conferred by local Acts; to make corrections and minor improvements in certain enactments relating to the local administration of health and planning functions; and for connected purposes. |
Criminal Procedure (Amendment) (Scotland) Act 2004 (Q100249582) - 2,172 characters |
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An Act of the Scottish Parliament to make provision, in connection with proceedings in the High Court of Justiciary, for the holding of preliminary hearings prior to the trial diet; to make new provision as to the continuation of the trial diet in proceedings in the High Court; to amend the time limit for commencement of the trial in proceedings in the High Court; in connection with solemn criminal proceedings generally, to amend the consequences of failure to comply with time limits, to make further provision as to citation of the accused, witnesses and jurors, to require any solicitor engaged by the accused to notify the court and the prosecutor of his engagement, withdrawal and dismissal, to make new provision as to the procedure where the trial diet does not proceed, to enable the trial to be conducted in the absence of the accused in certain circumstances, to provide for the apprehension, detention and release on bail of obstructive witnesses, to enable notices and other documents to be served on the accused through his solicitor, to restate with modifications certain provisions in relation to the raising of preliminary pleas and issues and to make new provision as to the adjournment and alteration of diets; to enable persons to be released on bail subject to a requirement that their compliance with conditions of bail restricting their movements be remotely monitored; to make provision entitling the prosecutor to be heard on certain applications relating to bail; to make further provision as to the matters to be dealt with by the sheriff court at a first diet in solemn proceedings; to make new provision as to the procedure to be followed by the court in sentencing offenders who have pled guilty; to increase from three to five years the maximum extended sentence that may be imposed by a sheriff on persons convicted on indictment of certain violent and sexual offences; to make new provision as to the citation of witnesses for precognition by the prosecutor; to clarify when criminal proceedings are finally determined for the purposes of section 10 of the Protection of Children (Scotland) Act 2003 (asp 5); and for connected purposes. |
Smoking, Health and Social Care (Scotland) Act 2005 (Q7546023) - 2,092 characters |
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An Act of the Scottish Parliament to prohibit smoking in certain wholly or substantially enclosed places; to enable the Scottish Ministers by order to vary the minimum age limit of those to whom tobacco may be sold; to make provision in relation to general dental services, general ophthalmic services, personal dental services, pharmaceutical care services and detection of vision problems in children; to make provision in relation to disqualification by the NHS Tribunal; to enable the Scottish Ministers to establish a scheme for the making of payments to certain persons infected with hepatitis C as a result of NHS treatment and to certain persons infected with the virus by transmission of it from a person infected with it as a result of such treatment; to amend the Regulation of Care (Scotland) Act 2001 as respects what constitutes an independent health care service, the implementation of certain decisions by the Scottish Commission for the Regulation of Care or the Scottish Social Services Council, the provision of information to the Council and the minimum frequency of inspection of care services by the Commission; to make provision providing further time for applications to be made for registration of child care agencies and housing support services under the Regulation of Care (Scotland) Act 2001 and provide authorisation for the payment of certain grants to such services while not registered under that Act; to amend the Adults with Incapacity (Scotland) Act 2000 as respects authorisation of medical treatment; to amend the Public Health (Scotland) Act 1897 to introduce a right of appeal in certain cases under that Act; to enable the Scottish Ministers to form, participate in and provide assistance to companies for the purpose of providing facilities or services for persons exercising functions under the National Health Service (Scotland) Act 1978 or of making money available to the health service in Scotland; to amend the rules as to membership of and other matters relating to the Scottish Hospital Endowments Research Trust; and for connected purposes. |
Criminal Justice (Scotland) Act 2003 (Q100249679) - 2,085 characters |
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An Act of the Scottish Parliament to make provision in relation to criminal justice, criminal procedure and evidence in criminal proceedings; to make provision as to the arrest, sentencing, custody and release of offenders and the obtaining of reports in relation to offenders; to make provision for the provision of assistance by local authorities to persons who are arrested and are in police custody or who are subject to a deferred sentence and for the making of grants to local authorities exercising jointly certain functions in relation to offenders and other persons; to make provision for the protection of the public at large from persons with a propensity to commit certain offences and for the establishment of the Risk Management Authority; to make provision for the granting of certain rights to the victims of crime; to make provision as to the jurisdiction of courts and the designation of certain courts as drugs courts; to make provision in relation to the physical punishment of children; to create offences in connection with traffic in prostitution or for purposes connected with pornography; to make provision as to the criminal law as it relates to bribery and the acceptance of bribes; to make provision in relation to criminal legal assistance; to require the aggravation of an offence by religious prejudice to be taken into account in sentencing; to make provision as respects police ranks and the powers and duties of certain civilians employed by police authorities; to make provision for the disqualification of convicted persons from jury service in both criminal and civil proceedings and for the separation of juries after retiral; to make provision for the use of live television links between prisons and courts; to make provision in relation to warrants to search; to amend Part V of the Police Act 1997 in its application to Scotland; to make provision in relation to the prohibition of certain matters in respect of cases referred to the Principal Reporter; to amend the law relating to penalties for wildlife offences; and for connected purposes. |
Law Reform (Miscellaneous Provisions) (Scotland) Act 1980 (Q100165074) - 2,062 characters |
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An Act to make new provision for Scotland as respects the law relating to the qualification of jurors; to amend the law relating to jury service in Scotland; to make further provision for Scotland in respect of prior rights in the estates of deceased persons; to dispense with caution as regards certain executors-dative; to provide a procedure whereby an heir of provision may establish entitlement to act as trustee; to amend provisions of the Judicial Factors Act 1849 and the Trusts (Scotland) Act 1961 relating to the actings of judicial factors; to remove an obligation to preserve inventories of the estates of deceased persons in Scotland; to make further provision in respect of performance of the duties of sheriff principal; to amend the law relating to the jurisdiction and powers of the sheriff court; to empower Senators of the College of Justice to act as arbiters and oversmen in commercial disputes; to make further provision in respect of awards of compensation by the Lands Tribunal for Scotland; to remove the right of a vexatious litigant to appeal against a Lord Ordinary's refusal to allow the institution of legal proceedings; to amend the law relating to the jurisdiction of the Court of Session in actions for reduction; to amend the provisions of the Licensing (Scotland) Act 1976 relating to liability for offences committed by clubs; to amend provisions of the Marriage (Scotland) Act 1977 relating to the validity of marriages; to amend the provisions of the Prescription and Limitation(Scotland) Act 1973 relating to limitation of actions; to amend the law relating to the constitution and powers of the Scottish Solicitors' Discipline Tribunal; to make further provision as regards Scottish solicitors' clients' accounts; to enable amendments to be made to provisions of the Legal Aid (Scotland) Act 1967 relating to contributions from assisted persons; to make minor amendments to the Betting, Gaming and Lotteries Act 1963, the Lotteries and Amusements Act 1976 and the Licensing (Scotland) Act 1976; and for connected purposes. |
Public Services Reform (Scotland) Act 2010 (Q17984826) - 1,843 characters |
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An Act of the Scottish Parliament to make provision for the purpose of simplifying public bodies, including the transfer and delegation of certain functions, the dissolution of certain bodies and provision in relation to the regulation of officers of court; to enable provision to be made for the purpose of improving the exercise of public functions and for removing and reducing burdens resulting from legislation; to make provision for the publication of information on expenditure and certain other matters by certain public bodies; to establish Creative Scotland with functions in relation to the arts and culture and industries and other activity the focus of which is the application of creative skills; to establish Social Care and Social Work Improvement Scotland with scrutiny functions in relation to care services and social work services; to establish Healthcare Improvement Scotland with scrutiny and other functions in relation to services provided under the National Health Service and independent health care services; to amend the Mental Health (Care and Treatment) (Scotland) Act 2003 to make provision in relation to the Mental Welfare Commission for Scotland; to make provision about the exercise of scrutiny functions by certain bodies, including provision in respect of the involvement of users of scrutinised services, co-operation and joint inspections; to amend Part 2 of the Public Finance and Accountability (Scotland) Act 2000 in relation to audit authorities and audit reports and examinations under that Part; to amend the Scottish Public Services Ombudsman Act 2002 to make provision in relation to complaints handling procedures of listed authorities; to amend the Charities and Trustee Investment (Scotland) Act 2005 in relation to the regulation of charities and charity trustees; and for connected purposes. |
Criminal Justice Act 1993 (Q5185561) - 1,720 characters |
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An Act to make provision about the jurisdiction of courts in England and Wales in relation to certain offences of dishonesty and blackmail; to amend the law about drug trafficking offences and to implement provisions of the Community Council Directive No. 91/308/EEC; to amend Part VI of the Criminal Justice Act 1988; to make provision with respect to the financing of terrorism, the proceeds of terrorist-related activities and the investigation of terrorist activities; to amend Part I of the Criminal Justice Act 1991; to implement provisions of the Community Council Directive No. 89/592/EEC and to amend and restate the law about insider dealing in securities; to provide for certain offences created by the Banking Coordination (Second Council Directive) Regulations 1992 to be punishable in the same way as offences under sections 39, 40 and 41 of the Banking Act 1987 and to enable regulations implementing Article 15 of the Community Council Directive No. 89/646/EEC and Articles 3, 6 and 7 of the Community Council Directive No. 92/30/EEC to create offences punishable in that way; to make provision with respect to the penalty for causing death by dangerous driving or causing death by careless driving while under the influence of drink or drugs; to make it an offence to assist in or induce certain conduct which for the purposes of, or in connection with, the provisions of Community law is unlawful in another member State; to provide for the introduction of safeguards in connection with the return of persons under backing of warrants arrangements; to amend the Criminal Procedure (Scotland) Act 1975 and Part I of the Prisoners and Criminal Proceedings (Scotland) Act 1993; and for connected purposes. |
Leasehold Reform, Housing and Urban Development Act 1993 (Q100160455) - 1,708 characters |
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An Act to confer rights to collective enfranchisement and lease renewal on tenants of flats; to make further provision with respect to enfranchisement by tenants of houses; to make provision for auditing the management, by landlords or other persons, of residential property and for the approval of codes of practice relating thereto; to amend Parts III and IV of the Landlord and Tenant Act 1987; to confer jurisdiction on leasehold valuation tribunals as respects Crown land; to make provision for rendering void agreements preventing the occupation of leasehold property by persons with mental disorders; to amend Parts II, IV and V of the Housing Act 1985, Schedule 2 to the Housing Associations Act 1985, Parts I and III and sections 248 and 299 of the Housing (Scotland) Act 1987, Part III of the Housing Act 1988, and Part VI of the Local Government and Housing Act 1989; to make provision with respect to certain disposals requiring consent under Part II of the Housing Act 1985, including provision for the payment of a levy; to alter the basis of certain contributions by the Secretary of State under section 569 of that Act; to establish and confer functions on a body to replace the English Industrial Estates Corporation and to be known as the Urban Regeneration Agency; to provide for the designation of certain urban and other areas and to make provision as to the effect of such designation; to amend section 23 of the Land Compensation Act 1961, section 98 of the Local Government, Planning and Land Act 1980 and section 27 of the Housing and Planning Act 1986; to make further provision with respect to urban development corporations and urban development areas; and for connected purposes. |
Church of England (Miscellaneous Provisions) Measure 1992 (Q110254649) - 1,669 characters |
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A Measure passed by the General Synod of the Church of England to amend the law relating to sequestration; to make further provision with respect to the appointment of new patrons; to make further provision with respect to the conduct of funeral services and rights of burial; to enable parochial church councils to hold advowsons; to amend the law relating to the resignation of incumbents; to amend the law relating to the tenure of office of diocesan chancellors and registrars; to clarify the law relating to archdeacons' visitations; to clarify the law relating to the appointment of rural deans; to amend the law relating to the appointment of canons in cathedral churches; to amend section 27 of the Cemeteries Clauses Act 1847, section 11 of the Benefices Act 1898, sections 13, 16 and 17 of the New Parishes Measure 1943, section 5 of and the First Schedule to the Church Commissioners Measure 1947, sections 4 and 5 of the Diocesan Stipends Funds Measure 1953, section 12 of the Cathedrals Measure 1963, sections 55 and 56 of the Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction Measure 1963, section 1 of the Benefices Measure 1972, sections 3, 4 and 5 of the Cathedrals Measure 1976, sections 20, 23, 24 and 38 of the Endowments and Glebe Measure 1976, the Parochial Registers and Records Measure 1978, section 2 of the Dioceses Measure 1978, sections 29, 54 and 68 of and Schedules 4, 6 and 7 to the Pastoral Measure 1983, section 9 of and Schedule 2 to the Patronage (Benefices) Measure 1986 and section 5 of the Church of England (Ecumenical Relations) Measure 1988; to repeal certain enactments which are no longer of practical utility; and for purposes connected therewith. |
Agriculture (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1972 (Q100160702) - 1,625 characters |
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An Act to make new provision for the prevention of diseases suffered or disseminated by animals and to amend the diseases of Animals Act 1950; to amend the law relating to slaughterhouses, to the slaughter of animals in Scotland and to the improvement of live stock; to amend Part II of the Agriculture Act 1967; to make new provision in relation to the Agricultural Marketing Fund and the Agricultural Marketing (Scotland) Fund; to increase the amount which may be advanced under section 2 of the Agriculture Mortgage Corporation Act 1956; to increase the penalties under the Agriculture (Poisonous Substances) Act 1952 and the Agriculture (Safety, Health and Welfare Provisions) Act 1956; to make new provision with respect to arbitrations under the Agricultural Holdings Act 1948; to amend the Cereals Marketing Act 1965; to amend the Corn Returns Act 1882 and the Corn Sales Act 1921; to make new provision for obtaining agricultural statistics; to make further provision as to the use of poison against grey squirrels or coypus; to clarify the Plant Health Act 1967 as respects the recovery of expenses incurred by an authority exercising default powers under orders made by virtue of that Act; to abolish agricultural executive committees and certain other committees having functions in relation to agriculture or apiculture; to confer powers on the Secretary of State in relation to certain parks and other land in Scotland; to repeal paragraph (f) of Case 14 in Schedule 3 to the Rent Act 1968 and paragraph (f) of Case 15 in Schedule 3 to the Rent (Scotland) Act 1971; and for purposes connected with those matters. |
Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2016 (Q28970284) - 1,606 characters |
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An Act of the Scottish Parliament to make provision for a land rights and responsibilities statement; to establish the Scottish Land Commission, provide for its functions and the functions of the Land Commissioners and the Tenant Farming Commissioner; to make provision about access to, and provision of, information about owners and controllers of land; to make provision about engaging communities in decisions relating to land; to enable certain persons to buy land to further sustainable development; to make provision for non-domestic rates to be levied on shootings and deer forests; to make provision about the change of use of common good land; to make provision about the management of deer on land; to make provision about access rights to land; to amend the law on agricultural holdings to provide for new forms of agricultural tenancy, to remove the requirement to register before tenants of certain holdings can exercise a right to buy, to provide a new power of sale where a landlord is in breach of certain obligations, to provide about rent reviews, to expand the list of the persons to whom holdings can be assigned or bequeathed and to whom holdings can be transferred on intestacy and to make provision about landlords' objections to such successor tenants, to provide for certain holdings to be relinquished where landlords agree or assigned to persons new to or progressing in farming, to provide for a 3 year amnesty period in relation to certain improvements carried out by tenants, and to provide for notice of certain improvements proposed by landlords; and for connected purposes. |
Is it possible to get the limit raised for this property? I anticipate that this may also happen for a few Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom (Q4677783), Act of Senedd Cymru (Q4676706) and Act of the Northern Ireland Assembly (Q100271152) etc. Theknightwho (talk) 22:02, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- Treaties, also: notorious for ridiculously wordy titles. But yes, I've had to truncate a few Acts. (And, different subject, truncate labels for e.g. Statutory Instruments, some of which (roadworks, mainly) don't fit. --Tagishsimon (talk) 11:30, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- Tagishsimon - if you're curious, I've fudged it by splitting up the titles into parts, and then used the qualifier nature of statement (P5102) with the new item "value split up, due to exceeding the 1,500 character limit on strings (Q110418529)", followed by series ordinal (P1545). Obviously not ideal, but it's a way to at least get the relevant info onto the items for now, pending a better solution. Theknightwho (talk) 02:15, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Theknightwho We have raised the limit in the past based on user requests. But,
- is increasing the limit the right solution to this problem?
- what should we increase it to?
- To accommodate the acts you listed for example, we’d need about 3000 characters - that’s already double what the current limit is. One of the advantages of keeping the limit low is so we do not start having copyrighted texts in certain properties like poems. Are there other solutions to consider that do not involved increasing the limit, like splitting up the titles into parts as you already did? -Mohammed Sadat (WMDE) (talk) 09:28, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, and thanks for the response! In this case, would it please be possible for you to raise the limit to 3,000 characters? There are three reasons for this:
- From a practical perspective, these are the full titles, and technically have precedence over anything else. There is no way to abbreviate them that would be accurate, and they serve an important purpose in being able to interpret the legislation.
- While it is possible to split them (as I have), this makes querying them considerably trickier. My intention is to re-code the Lua module I created on the English Wikipedia that is powering the lists of UK legislation (such as this one), which do include the long title. It would be quite a bit of extra work to have to rely on querying for qualifiers etc., for what is only a tiny proportion of the total number.
- There should be no issues with copyright, as these are all covered by the UK government's Open Government Licence (Q17016921). Anything prior to 1972 is public domain, as Crown Copyright in this case is 50 years.
- As far as I can tell, Act titles have been trending towards getting longer in recent years, so I don't anticipate anything even longer cropping up while I work backwards, as I have now uploaded all Acts dating back to 1960.
- Theknightwho (talk) 09:50, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Mohammed Sadat (WMDE) - it’s just occurred to me that maybe we could implement an abuse filter that triggers if a string above a certain length is added? Alternatively, maybe there could be a form of manual approval required if someone makes edits above that length? In both cases, that could ensure that only a small number of items end up with very long strings, and only when it’s an inherent part of the item’s metadata (e.g. the title), and therefore not at risk of violating copyright by being gratuitous. Theknightwho (talk) 01:30, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, and thanks for the response! In this case, would it please be possible for you to raise the limit to 3,000 characters? There are three reasons for this:
- @Theknightwho We have raised the limit in the past based on user requests. But,
- Tagishsimon - if you're curious, I've fudged it by splitting up the titles into parts, and then used the qualifier nature of statement (P5102) with the new item "value split up, due to exceeding the 1,500 character limit on strings (Q110418529)", followed by series ordinal (P1545). Obviously not ideal, but it's a way to at least get the relevant info onto the items for now, pending a better solution. Theknightwho (talk) 02:15, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
Wrong link in Balinese version
I want ask about wrong link when click Main Page or Kaca utama in Balinese version, What should I do to fix this??
Chinamoonroll (talk) 08:48, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
- You should change MediaWiki:Mainpage/ban. 217.117.125.83 14:50, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for information, that must "Wikidata:Kaca Utama", but i don't have permission to edit on Wikidata or Translatewiki. Chinamoonroll (talk) 01:24, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
SVG export from WDQS don't work
Dear editors, please, help. I have a SPARQL query - colored graph of astronauts and space ships. I want to download an SVG image of the graph (in order to upload to Wikimedia Commons), but the button "SVG" don't work. Could you help me? --Andrew Krizhanovsky (talk) 16:10, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- @AKA MBG: Unfortunately the SVG export only works for a subset of result views (mainly the chart-based ones, I believe), and the graph view is not one of them. --Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE) (talk) 10:50, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
Mistake Q30527586
i do not know english. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q30527586 This page is redundant. The link to this page should be moved: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q568375 See my remarks on the talk page: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Talk:Q30527586 ילד מסכן וחכם (talk) 10:15, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- @ילד מסכן וחכם:
Done See Help:Merge for future cases of redundant items. --Epìdosis 12:12, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
"Edit" option issue.
I hope this is the correct place to address this issue.
When I look at a wikidata item page, all the properties are listed. With a grey background we first have the property name, and to the right of it with a white background the property value. Behind the value the "edit" option is shown.
I work with an increased fontsize of 125% (using CTRL-+) on my screen. Most properties have a value in text format. The increased fomtsize causes some values to be wrapped over 2 or more lines. This os not a problem. However for the image property (P18) there is a problem. An image cannot be wrapped so as a result the "edit" option is moved outside the screenview. The "edit" option getting moved outside the screenview wouldn't be a problem either if a horizontal scrollbar would appear. But the scrollbar doesn't appear and therefore it It seems as if the "edit" option doesn't exist for the image property. This I consider to be a bug, not the most problematic one, but it is a problem imo. If I increase the fontsize even more (in my case to 150%) the "edit" option reappears in the top left corner of the image. When I increase even more (175%) part of the image is moved out of the screenview as well. Only at that time the horizontal scrollbar appears. However I can scroll only far enough to the right to make the full image visible but not even further to the right to see the "edit" option as well. Two additonal increases (250&), when the full image ends up outside the screenview, the "edit" option reappears again. However it's shown in front of the property name (not value). Of course, not likely someone will increase the fontsize to 250%, but I'm probably not the only one with an increase of 125%. At such an increase the "edit" option should either be visible (e.g. below the image) or it should be possible to make it visable using the horizontal scrollbar. --Sb008 (talk) 13:06, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Hello @Sb008! Thanks for reporting this issue and describing it in detail. We’re aware of the wrapping problems in the UI. Unfortunately this issue with the edit button moving out of the screen view cannot be tackled in isolation but should be fixed as part of the ongoing design and component development we’re doing this year. -Mohammed Sadat (WMDE) (talk) 10:03, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
Lost in Translation
As an native German-speaker with moderate English-skills, I frequently fumble over translation problems, where a word in one language has two in the other. This becomes apparent, if you check the English topping lift (Q607634) finding its equivalent in the German "Toppnant", but also in the German "Dirk" (Q11694269). The reason is, that German differentiates between the main-sail boom and the spinnakerboom. Besides my limited English-skills, I'm no IT-crack either, so I don't know if there is a potential fix for this type of problem. However, it would be a significant improvement over the current situation for Interwiki-links. The problem is not limited to German-English translations. If you need more examples, I'd be willing to assist in the search. Yotwen (talk) 06:24, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- Hi @Yotwen. This sounds to me like an editorial issue. Please discuss it with the community on the Project chat. -Mohammed Sadat (WMDE) (talk) 10:02, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
Reasonator
Reasonator somewhy doesn’t show anything except of header for some time (I don’t remember exactly, weeks or months.). FireFox 93.0 EME-free x64, Windows 10 2004 x64 217.117.125.83 17:39, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
- See the above discussion about functionality for non-ES6 browsers. A fix is on the way. -Mohammed Sadat (WMDE) (talk) 09:47, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Mohammed Sadat (WMDE): Are you sure that it’s about my problem? My browser is new and I can edit items but I have problem with the button too. 217.117.125.83 10:50, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- I’m sure it’s not about your problem. For me (Firefox 91.4.1esr and 96.0b10 on Debian 10), https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q42 loads, but quite slowly (over half a minute until actual data appears). Is this particular URL broken for you? If yes, you might want to look at your browser extensions. Ad blockers and security extensions (like NoScript or security software’s extensions) often can cause issues, but you should check other extensions as well. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 22:37, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Tacsipacsi: I have been waiting for 6 mins but nothing have loaded. I have only one content‐blocking extension (adblocker) and it’s disabled for the site. 217.117.125.83 16:30, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- And other, non-content-blocking extensions? They’re less likely but not impossible to cause issues. You may also look at your browser console. By the way, the latest stable version of Firefox is 95.0.2 (at least in the normal, not EME-free version), aren’t you able to update? —Tacsipacsi (talk) 11:42, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- FoxyTab
- No PDF Download
- Tab reloader
- Zoom scheduler
- and search engines
- Console says only
Uncaught ReferenceError: wd_auto_desc_wd is not defined
. - I believe that my FireFox version is still new. 217.117.125.83 17:13, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- @217.117.125.83 Are you still experiencing this issue? If so then I'm afraid you will have to file a report with the developer as Reasonator is a community developed tooI. -Mohammed Sadat (WMDE) (talk) 11:49, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, I am. @Magnus Manske 217.117.125.83 17:08, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- And other, non-content-blocking extensions? They’re less likely but not impossible to cause issues. You may also look at your browser console. By the way, the latest stable version of Firefox is 95.0.2 (at least in the normal, not EME-free version), aren’t you able to update? —Tacsipacsi (talk) 11:42, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Tacsipacsi: I have been waiting for 6 mins but nothing have loaded. I have only one content‐blocking extension (adblocker) and it’s disabled for the site. 217.117.125.83 16:30, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- I’m sure it’s not about your problem. For me (Firefox 91.4.1esr and 96.0b10 on Debian 10), https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q42 loads, but quite slowly (over half a minute until actual data appears). Is this particular URL broken for you? If yes, you might want to look at your browser extensions. Ad blockers and security extensions (like NoScript or security software’s extensions) often can cause issues, but you should check other extensions as well. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 22:37, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Mohammed Sadat (WMDE): Are you sure that it’s about my problem? My browser is new and I can edit items but I have problem with the button too. 217.117.125.83 10:50, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
Can you solve the translation problem and the update problem?
I know that Wikidata has a disadvantage of having translation problems and slow updates, so I don't have enough time to solve them.
However, I think we need to go through the steps that require development.
I think development should continue.
Can Wikidata handle all of this? Takuyakoz (talk) 11:13, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
- Hello @Takuyakoz ! Please clarify what translation and update problems you mean. -Mohammed Sadat (WMDE) (talk) 12:07, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
Statements without properties ??
I was exploring the sparql endpoint searching for values with upper and lower bound not centered around the origin and found something weird.
- https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q87096170#Q87096170$D7B46333-6E18-48D2-98E4-6034E7E745FE these values appear without statements on this item ?
I followed the link availables on this query : https://query.wikidata.org/#describe%20wdv%3A80dd3a11db184aa7ae34c3025adfa89d author TomT0m / talk page 19:18, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- @TomT0m: That’s an unfortunate interplay of T285694 and MediaWiki talk:Common.css#Styling Deprecated/Preferred Ranks, see T285694#7662954. Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE) (talk) 10:58, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
could we properly alphabetize WP links?
The languages in the WP links are consistently out of order, in that most 3-letter language codes will come before a 2-letter code. I'm constantly forgetting that and sometimes conclude that the article doesn't exist in the WP I'm looking for. (E.g. if I scroll down so that the link I'm looking for is off the top of the page, but I can still see the link should be alphabetized before it.) Can this be fixed?
It's not 100%, but happens most of the time. E.g.
- ang > an; ban, bat > ba; csb > cs; fiu > fi; frr > fr; gan > ga; hif > hi; jam > ja; kab > ka; koi > ko; ksh > ks; lbe > lb; lij > li; mni > mn; mrj > mr; myv > my; nds_nl > nds; pap > pa; rue > ru; sah > sa; scn, sco > sc; war > wa; zh_... > zh; but ar > ary, arz; hy > hyw; and ne > new.
From the exceptions, it looks like correct alphabetization only occurs when the 3rd letter is {w x y z}. Kwamikagami (talk) 06:12, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Kwamikagami: I think if you disable the “Site ID to interwiki” gadget, the order will make more sense. On Wikimedia main page (Q5296), I see: amiwiki, amwiki, angwiki, anwiki, arcwiki, arwiki… mlwiki, mniwiki, mnwiki, mnwwiki, mrjwiki, mrwiki… it is alphabetical, at least until the gadget changes the displayed text without adjusting the order. Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE) (talk) 12:19, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Ah, that makes sense. Thank you. Kwamikagami (talk) 12:42, 31 January 2022 (UTC)