Wikidata:Property proposal/ordered by

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ordered by[edit]

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   Under discussion
Descriptionan act ordered by the subject, e.g. a military act
Representshuman (Q5)
Data typeItem
Domainhuman (Q5)
Allowed valuesany instance of (P31)human (Q5)
Example 1cause of death:American airstrike + ordered by -> Donald Trump, see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q892014
Example 2MISSING
Example 3MISSING
See alsocommissioned by (P88) but that only fits for objects like paintings or buildings according to the description

Motivation[edit]

Model military (and other) acts better by declaring who ordered them in the chain of command. --So9q (talk) 19:53, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support --Tinker Bell 19:20, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Would this be a qualifier, a main-value property, or both? Is the value intended to be the immediate source or the ultimate source of the order? How should this work when the order itself has an item? --Yair rand (talk) 04:28, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Good question! I only need it as a qualifier. Ultimate source. Quite often the military is wary of telling who ordered what and mostly it is the supreme general or in this case president that is mentioned. Maybe we could have "executed by" when it becomes known who pressed the button to fire the ordonance that eventually resulted in the kill? All the middle officers passing down the order are not relevant IMO. Middle officers can become relevant if they refuse the order e.g. but we should have another property for that "order refused by" perhaps.--So9q (talk) 09:23, 13 January 2020 (UTC)