Wikidata:Property proposal/abstract available at
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abstract available at[edit]
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work
Not done
Description | URL where an abstract of the full work is available |
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Represents | abstract (Q333291) |
Data type | URL |
Domain | works |
Allowed values | valid URLs |
Example | Arizonacritus talayesvai, nouveau genre et nouvelle espèce des Etats-Unis d'Amérique et du Mexique (Coleoptera, Histeridae) (Q47451110) → http://www.refdoc.fr/Detailnotice?idarticle=55144325 |
See also | full work available at URL (P953) |
Motivation
Needed for WikiCite, especially when full works are not (freely) available online - I was surprised to find we don't already have this. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:42, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Discussion
- Support David (talk) 15:30, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment why not use described at URL (P973)? ArthurPSmith (talk) 20:10, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
- Insufficiently precise - that might also be used for a review, or a refutation. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:27, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
- Support Uomovariabile (talk to me) 08:18, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose described at URL (P973) seems appropriate − Pintoch (talk) 00:56, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
- Please see my comment, above, explaining why it is not. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:20, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
- Changing to oppose so that we have more time to discuss. Why not use a qualifier on described at URL (P973) to indicate which information is available at the URL? That would be more generic. − Pintoch (talk) 13:48, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- Such as? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:53, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- Changing to oppose so that we have more time to discuss. Why not use a qualifier on described at URL (P973) to indicate which information is available at the URL? That would be more generic. − Pintoch (talk) 13:48, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- Please see my comment, above, explaining why it is not. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:20, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
Something like this:
described at URL |
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add value |
− Pintoch (talk) 10:49, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Pintoch: Looks like shoehorsing to me. It’s not a description of the abstract that is available at the url, it’s the integral abstract of the article ??? author TomT0m / talk page 13:18, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
- @TomT0m: Then with full work available at URL (P953) instead of described at URL (P973)? − Pintoch (talk) 13:30, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
- I don’t really like the idea that we get a « part » qualifier on a property supposed to get the full version as a subject … utterly confusing. ⟨ subject ⟩ has part(s) of the class (P2670) ⟨ abstract ⟩would maybe work, but I’d prefer a dedicated property. author TomT0m / talk page 13:36, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
full work available at URL (P953) ⟨ the url ⟩
- I don’t really like the idea that we get a « part » qualifier on a property supposed to get the full version as a subject … utterly confusing.
- @TomT0m: Then with full work available at URL (P953) instead of described at URL (P973)? − Pintoch (talk) 13:30, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
- Support useful. author TomT0m / talk page 13:36, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
- Comment I was thinking more along the lines of
- An abstract is almost by definition a "description" of the associated paper, so described at url seems near-perfect here to me. ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:55, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
- That would work for me. What do others think? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:31, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
- Ah yeah, I never think about object has role (P3831). Yes I think that would work very well. − Pintoch (talk) 07:43, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
- It's probably less intuitive for a manual entry but it can work.--Uomovariabile (talk to me) 09:30, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
- Ah yeah, I never think about object has role (P3831). Yes I think that would work very well. − Pintoch (talk) 07:43, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
- That would work for me. What do others think? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:31, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
- Closing this as Not done then. − Pintoch (talk) 17:19, 23 April 2018 (UTC)